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    Yup. As someone earlier in this thread pointed out, it appears that Ritchey parts will be road and 'cross, Syncros for off road.
    So much for a 29" Z-Max...

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    Just want to point out that gary Fisher is not a bike builder so not sure what he would do if he didnt "sell out"
    I dont see what is the problem here TR brought some handbuilt bikes to the hand built show and if enough people want to buy them he will do a production run somewhere where the labor is cheap enough so that 99% of the people on this site wont complain about how much they cost.
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    My desire for one of these has not abated.

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    Hmm... A P-29er with Plexus style seatstays? Now that would be rad!
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    I need a P-29er to go with my P-21. Haven't jumped on the 29 wagon yet, but can't wait until the P-29er is available whether it is Tig'd or Filet Brazed.
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    any word when the P-29 will be available?

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    I just spun over to the Ritchey site to see if they had any more information on their 29" er frame or tires. Nothing. While this bike made it's debut at the February 2011 NAHBS show in Austin and reappeared at the Sea Otter in April 2011 how hard is it to update your website? Lame. Even their news and blog posts are moths out of date. Doubly lame. Granted, I still hold out for a 29" version of the Z -Max Classic in a 2.35 but at the same token I'm not going to hold my breath.

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    All I can say is wow. I have always been a Ritchey fan and the new Red/White/Blue 29ers look incredible to say the least.

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    I don't think this is made in Ritchey factory. They may use a frame builder. Did it say TW or China?

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    At that price point it's probably done off shore. I think TR did do the show bikes, however.

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    Any news on the availability date?

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    I was told end of November for us in the uk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheng Lee View Post
    I don't think this is made in Ritchey factory. They may use a frame builder. Did it say TW or China?
    The production frames are made in Taiwan. The frames that we've had at NAHBS and Sea Otter were handmade by Tom Ritchey.

    They're scheduled to be available in November. Preorder if you're interested as our initial supply is limited.

    Our website is now updated with the P-29er as well.
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    Woohoo! Finally, a Ritchey 29'er!! I'm still not a huge fan of the bent downtubes but I understand why they do it. It's just not my favorite part of the design. However.... they are sweet. Hopefully, he'll steer clear of sliders at some point and come up with something else for chain tension for us singlespeeders out in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Speed View Post
    Woohoo! Finally, a Ritchey 29'er!! I'm still not a huge fan of the bent downtubes but I understand why they do it. It's just not my favorite part of the design. However.... they are sweet. Hopefully, he'll steer clear of sliders at some point and come up with something else for chain tension for us singlespeeders out in the world.
    Come on...pics or it did not happen.

    edit---thougth you meant you got one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post
    The production frames are made in Taiwan. The frames that we've had at NAHBS and Sea Otter were handmade by Tom Ritchey.

    They're scheduled to be available in November. Preorder if you're interested as our initial supply is limited.

    Our website is now updated with the P-29er as well.

    Apologize I must be blind, where on the website are the frames?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega1848 View Post
    Apologize I must be blind, where on the website are the frames?
    The exact page he linked to... those are the frames, they just have parts on them for the photos

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    He he, well kind of. If I use his link, the website automatically detects that I am from outside of the US and is not displaying the „frames“ section, only if I choose US manually it does the trick...
    Now I can see them, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega1848 View Post
    He he, well kind of. If I use his link, the website automatically detects that I am from outside of the US and is not displaying the „frames“ section, only if I choose US manually it does the trick...
    Now I can see them, thanks!
    Ah, I see. Sorry for assuming

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Speed View Post
    Woohoo! Finally, a Ritchey 29'er!! I'm still not a huge fan of the bent downtubes but I understand why they do it. It's just not my favorite part of the design. However.... they are sweet. Hopefully, he'll steer clear of sliders at some point and come up with something else for chain tension for us singlespeeders out in the world.
    Check out the way Yeti do it on there current DJ and Bigtop...Can't believe it isn't on every bike. Out of control good!

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    ritchey-dave, are you guys still expecting P-29 and Swiss Cross frames to start shipping this month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by edgerat View Post
    ritchey-dave, are you guys still expecting P-29 and Swiss Cross frames to start shipping this month?
    There was a small delay. They'll be here mid December. It'll be worth the wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post
    There was a small delay. They'll be here mid December. It'll be worth the wait.
    do you know if the frame will be available w different paint schemes/colors in the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machianera View Post
    do you know if the frame will be available w different paint schemes/colors in the future?
    Yes, we'll be trying out some different looks in the future, however there's nothing for sure yet.
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    Any word when the frames will arrive from Asia?

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    Unfortunately there was some delays with the P-29er and they won't be here for another month.
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    What's the best way to order one of these? Any authorized dealer that sells "Ritchey" stuff? Honestly, I have a feeling they would look at me funny if I asked them about it.

    And, it's been a month! Are they available?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanus View Post
    What's the best way to order one of these? Any authorized dealer that sells "Ritchey" stuff? Honestly, I have a feeling they would look at me funny if I asked them about it.

    And, it's been a month! Are they available?!
    You can find a dealer near you at : Ritchey Logic

    Also you can order one through Excel Sports. They don't have it on their website yet but they will and I'm sure you could preorder it as well.

    We're still waiting for them to arrive, they should be here very soon, hold tight. It'll be worth it.
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    Ritchey_Dave,

    Are there any details avaialable that aren't shown on the Ritchey Logic site, that might help someone decide whether or not to jump-in with a pre-order?

    How about critical geometry details like standover height and effective top-tube length, for instance?

    How about cable routing / cable stop details? (I personally have no interest in a single-speed setup, but the the idea of using the sliding dropout to facilitate a Rohloff drivetrain is intriguing. The cable routing may preclude that, however.)

    How about details and prices for the necessary drop-in headsets. Nothing shows up on the site.

    Finally, is the following quote correct? If so, how do we find out more?

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    My understanding is that Tom is considering doing a limited number of brazed frames for the general market.
    Very similar to the late 80's early 90's when you could order a TR brazed one for an upcharge.
    Thanks for any info!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamkeith View Post
    Ritchey_Dave,

    Are there any details avaialable that aren't shown on the Ritchey Logic site, that might help someone decide whether or not to jump-in with a pre-order?

    How about critical geometry details like standover height and effective top-tube length, for instance?

    How about cable routing / cable stop details? (I personally have no interest in a single-speed setup, but the the idea of using the sliding dropout to facilitate a Rohloff drivetrain is intriguing. The cable routing may preclude that, however.)

    How about details and prices for the necessary drop-in headsets. Nothing shows up on the site.

    Finally, is the following quote correct? If so, how do we find out more?



    Thanks for any info!

    How about critical geometry details like standover height and effective top-tube length, for instance?

    Standover height is not listed as this varies as a measure of fit based on what parts are used to build up the frame. Effective top-tube is listed under the frame geometry, click on the "tech" tab on the top right of the P-29er page. Other elements of fit can be determined from that chart.


    How about cable routing / cable stop details? (I personally have no interest in a single-speed setup, but the the idea of using the sliding dropout to facilitate a Rohloff drivetrain is intriguing. The cable routing may preclude that, however.)

    The cable routing is setup to accommodate standard geared configurations or single speed. We haven't had a chance to played around with a Rohloff drivetrain on a P-29er, I'd check with them on how to incorporate their drivetrain into a standard cable routing setup with sliding dropouts. There's nothing really quirky about our setup so they should have a good understanding of it.


    How about details and prices for the necessary drop-in headsets. Nothing shows up on the site.

    The frames use 1 1/8", 41.8 bearings.
    The Ritchey WCS Logic Zero headsets ($59.95) will work with the P-29er.


    Finally, is the following quote correct? If so, how do we find out more?

    It's being discussed but there are no solidified plans at the moment. More information will be posted on the Ritchey website as things become more concrete.
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    A review of the new Ritchey P29er frame. Thoughts on the Ritchey P-29er by Anton Bosman of Summit Cycles, South Africa

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    Ritchey P29er Review 2012
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    Quote Originally Posted by speek View Post
    A review of the new Ritchey P29er frame. Thoughts on the Ritchey P-29er by Anton Bosman of Summit Cycles, South Africa

    Copy and paste bellow quote into YouTube search:

    I'm unable to post the direct link as this is my 1st post here PS: To be able to post links or images your post count must be 10 or greater. Currently I have 0 posts.
    Thanks for that!

    Ritchey P29er Review 2012.mov - YouTube

    Great review. First shipment of these babies arrive in our warehouse 2/15 and are already sold out! Make sure you get dibs on one at a store near you.
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    I read an european review about 3 months ago... too long to translate, but they made those points:

    - Large frame, has reach and stack similar to 17.5 inches "modern" hardtails
    - Very comfortable and natural
    - Not a fast bike
    - Little heavy
    - Very good traction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machianera View Post
    I read an european review about 3 months ago... too long to translate, but they made those points:

    - Large frame, has reach and stack similar to 17.5 inches "modern" hardtails
    - Very comfortable and natural
    - Not a fast bike
    - Little heavy
    - Very good traction
    Funny... as an expat living in Europe I find that the majority of local 29'er reviews say "not a fast bike" until they start doing 'real world' riding. Then, it seems things get really fast.

    If only it had an EBB or swingers. :-(

    In any case, I'm really looking forward to seeing one and maybe swinging a leg over one. Spoke to a guy the other night who has an old P21. Jealous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1 Speed View Post
    Funny... as an expat living in Europe I find that the majority of local 29'er reviews say "not a fast bike" until they start doing 'real world' riding. Then, it seems things get really fast.

    If only it had an EBB or swingers. :-(

    In any case, I'm really looking forward to seeing one and maybe swinging a leg over one. Spoke to a guy the other night who has an old P21. Jealous!
    The review is comparing the bike to other 29ers out there, exp carbon fiber frames. It said "not as fast as a lightweight 29er". It can go fast. Just not a racing bike.

    Do not compare the p-29 to older p series. The p-21 was created as a racing bike and possibly one of the fastest/lighter frame when it was conceived.
    The p-29 seems to be the idea of the marketing department. I would expect a good, possibly great bike. But no glory.

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    The bike in question here is mine, speek is my regular riding buddy, he has ordered a frame as well as the guy who filmed and edited the clip.
    It was a pleasure to be able to put this together for such an awesome bike from such a great company.

    It would be great to know what the rest of the guys at Ritchey think of it.

    Posted elsewhere but just for pleasure again :-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by 20niner View Post
    The bike in question here is mine, speek is my regular riding buddy, he has ordered a frame as well as the guy who filmed and edited the clip.
    It was a pleasure to be able to put this together for such an awesome bike from such a great company.

    It would be great to know what the rest of the guys at Ritchey think of it.

    Posted elsewhere but just for pleasure again :-)
    We loved the review and were blown away by the quality of filming and depth of knowledge of the reviewer. Truly a complement to see that the passion we put into our products can be translated to the end user.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post
    We loved the review and were blown away by the quality of filming and depth of knowledge of the reviewer. Truly a complement to see that the passion we put into our products can be translated to the end user.
    Many thanks Dave, glad you enjoyed it

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    very good

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20niner View Post
    The bike in question here is mine, speek is my regular riding buddy, he has ordered a frame as well as the guy who filmed and edited the clip.
    It was a pleasure to be able to put this together for such an awesome bike from such a great company.
    As soon as my P-29er land on local soil I promise to ride more often I'll even consider riding with a Handlebar Mustache every time I ride it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machianera View Post
    The review is comparing the bike to other 29ers out there, exp carbon fiber frames. It said "not as fast as a lightweight 29er". It can go fast. Just not a racing bike.

    Do not compare the p-29 to older p series. The p-21 was created as a racing bike and possibly one of the fastest/lighter frame when it was conceived.
    The p-29 seems to be the idea of the marketing department. I would expect a good, possibly great bike. But no glory.
    Here's a pic of one of our sponsored riders, Kurt Wolfgang, on his way to placing 1st in the Cat 1s this weekend at the CCCX XC Race in Monterey California aboard one of our new P-29ers.



    I think he'd beg to differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 20niner View Post
    The bike in question here is mine, speek is my regular riding buddy, he has ordered a frame as well as the guy who filmed and edited the clip.
    It was a pleasure to be able to put this together for such an awesome bike from such a great company.

    It would be great to know what the rest of the guys at Ritchey think of it.

    Posted elsewhere but just for pleasure again :-)
    Wow, that looks marvelous!
    Get off the couch and ride!

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    Hi,
    any feedback on the reliability of the sliders? Any comments about them?
    Sorry to ask, I do not have in depth experiences with sliders, but I stumbled across several posts about various slider drop outs and it seems there are big differences.
    Some people complain about loosing themselves from time to time, and I was wondering if the system used by Ritchey is a „well known“ and established one...
    Thanks a lot in advance for feedback, and please no offense!

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    I talked to Mark Norstad of Paragon Machine Works a while ago and Mark said the majority of the issues found in slider drops is due to poor quality control from Chinese and Taiwanese knockoffs. The tolerances are sloppy and the nut and bolt assemblies are sub par. I suppose that's one more incentive to buy an American made frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacemonkey View Post
    I talked to Mark Norstad of Paragon Machine Works a while ago and Mark said the majority of the issues found in slider drops is due to poor quality control from Chinese and Taiwanese knockoffs. The tolerances are sloppy and the nut and bolt assemblies are sub par. I suppose that's one more incentive to buy an American made frame.
    No problem with the Ritchey,
    The Tange dropouts are top quality and with over 2000 km's on the bike, I have not had a moments trouble to date.
    The quality is top shelf.


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    Another one:
    Anyone know how Ritchey has measured the 70 degree head tube angle?
    Which fork length was been used?
    I assume 100mm, but compressed with sag (around??? 20mm?) or not?

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    Sweet looking drops

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega1848 View Post
    Another one:
    Anyone know how Ritchey has measured the 70 degree head tube angle?
    Which fork length was been used?
    I assume 100mm, but compressed with sag (around??? 20mm?) or not?
    The 70 degrees refers to the the angle of the headtube in relation to the floor with a 100mm travel fork installed. No sag or compression taken into consideration.
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    Just got my 19" frame yesterday. Welds look smooth and even. Sliding drops look good too. Now all I need is a red reba...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FerrouSS View Post
    Just got my 19" frame yesterday. Welds look smooth and even. Sliding drops look good too. Now all I need is a red reba...
    Nice! Make sure you let MTBR know what you think.
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    Ritchey Dave,

    I live in Arizona, my friend and I pre-ordered P-29er's in November, any idea when we can expect those to arrive?

    This will be my fourth Ritchey, and my first 29er, so I am really looking forward to it's arrival. Currently still "rockin" my late 90's Plexus, which is a great bike, but she's ready to retire from my every day bike. A group of guy's I recently started with were amused when I first showed up on it, now they are pretty amazed at how well my "old road bike" performs

    Any info would be great !

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad jack View Post
    Ritchey Dave,

    I live in Arizona, my friend and I pre-ordered P-29er's in November, any idea when we can expect those to arrive?

    This will be my fourth Ritchey, and my first 29er, so I am really looking forward to it's arrival. Currently still "rockin" my late 90's Plexus, which is a great bike, but she's ready to retire from my every day bike. A group of guy's I recently started with were amused when I first showed up on it, now they are pretty amazed at how well my "old road bike" performs

    Any info would be great !
    Those older Ritchey frames can definitely hang with best of them today. The Plexus is one of my favorite Ritchey frames ever.

    Where did you preorder your P-29er from?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post

    Where did you preorder your P-29er from?
    Sultana Cycles in Cottinwood Az. Shop was told 21" for my buddy is avaliable, but my 19" is not

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    We had a real short shipment of the 19s unfortunately. They have one on order for you, but it'll be on our next shipment which should be arriving any minute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post
    We had a real short shipment of the 19s unfortunately. They have one on order for you, but it'll be on our next shipment which should be arriving any minute.
    YES

    I appreciate you looking into this for me, and looking forward to it's arrival

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    No problem, new bike anticipation can be painful. Rest assured it's almost over, and it'll be worth the wait.
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    The "Eagle has landed"

    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post
    No problem, new bike anticipation can be painful. Rest assured it's almost over, and it'll be worth the wait.
    Frame arrived this afternoon,I haven't seen it yet,but I wanted to thank you for your time, and customer service on this matter. I appreciate all that you and any others have done to make it happen.

    Due to a recent work obligation, I won't be able to complete my build for 5-6 weeks, but when do, I will be sure to post info on the build, and ride. Can't wait, and again, thanks!

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    Just got done with my build and absolutely love the bike. I have already posted this bike with multiple pictures in the 29er forums and the SS forum...however, seems appropriate to post it here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by redvtwin2 View Post
    Just got done with my build and absolutely love the bike. I have already posted this bike with multiple pictures in the 29er forums and the SS forum...however, seems appropriate to post it here:
    Sweet! The pic didn't come through though.
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    here is my little one

    best of the best, thank you Mr. Ritchey
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    Does anyone know the specs on the bottom bracket shell? Is it english threaded? 68mm?

    I have a NOS Logic compact crankset and NOS Ritchey Ti 120mm bottom bracket in my parts bin. It would be cool to go a little retro in my build if I can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanus View Post
    Does anyone know the specs on the bottom bracket shell? Is it english threaded? 68mm?

    I have a NOS Logic compact crankset and NOS Ritchey Ti 120mm bottom bracket in my parts bin. It would be cool to go a little retro in my build if I can.
    Correct. It's english and 68 mm.

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    still waiting for red V5 pedals, silver instead if white cables, titanium retro style stem, Ritchey saddle.
    Custom stem will be painted red to match the frame and the fork will be painted white (top) and blue (bottom) according to the Ritchey P-series racers from the nineties.

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    Hey guys this is my first post I just recently joined the forum. I am looking to build my first 29er and really excited about the ritchey. For those of you who have built your bike I am hoping you can help. I am 5ft 10 with a 30 inch inseam should I buy the the large or medium frame.

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    Medium

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    I would recommend medium one, I am 6 ft with 32 inseam and ride large one.

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    Thanks for the insight I am located in Ohio and having a hard time finding one in stock called a couple lbs and they are checking into ordering one if not I reached a place down in Texas that would be able to hook me up.

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    pull the trigger

    Quote Originally Posted by Red13 View Post
    Thanks for the insight I am located in Ohio and having a hard time finding one in stock called a couple lbs and they are checking into ordering one if not I reached a place down in Texas that would be able to hook me up.
    I just finished my build about a week ago, and I'm loving it! Like you, this is my 1st 29er, and I am very impressed with the Ritchey frame, and the bigger wheels! This is my 4th Ritchey, but I would say my best ever!

    Mine is a large, and complete build, without pedals was 22.5lbs. I would send pictures
    if I could figure out how. Any ways, great bike, and I believe I know where to get a med
    in Arizona. Good luck.

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    Nice bad jack need to see some eye candy! Talked to a dealer in western P.A. and he is going to be able order me one. It probably will not be here to July but that gives me time to think about and purchase some of the components. Did you go geared or SS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red13 View Post
    Nice bad jack need to see some eye candy! Talked to a dealer in western P.A. and he is going to be able order me one. It probably will not be here to July but that gives me time to think about and purchase some of the components. Did you go geared or SS?
    2x10 sram. First time on 2x10,was somewhat concerned about the low gearing for climbing, but works great. First ride did 5000' of climbing, had pleanty of gearing.

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    36/22 or other combi you are using?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega1848 View Post
    36/22 or other combi you are using?
    39x22. I found that when I was in 1st, 2nd, etc on my 3x9, I am able to do the same on the 2x10. I have to admit though, I do miss the big ring of the 3x9, you don't. seem to be able to get up to speed as quick on 2x10, but have only used for a week, so may have to get better planing ahead? Time will tell, but no regrets. yet......

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    HI Ritchey Dave,
    The Ritchey P29 mentions the steel as "Ritchey Logic II steel"...do you know anything more about this steel and how it compares to Reynolds 853?

    Thanks for your insight!

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    Any plans for a P29 with standard, fixed dropouts?
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    Lovely, I would like to get one of these for bikepacking and long xc rides. Guess I will have to spraypaint it flat black for my trans-Asia trip or risk having stones tossed at me.

    more stones than usual, I mean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by red bank rider View Post
    HI Ritchey Dave,
    The Ritchey P29 mentions the steel as "Ritchey Logic II steel"...do you know anything more about this steel and how it compares to Reynolds 853?

    Thanks for your insight!
    Reynolds 853 is an air-hardened, triple butted steel alloy with impressive strength properties. It’s a high quality tubeset but unfortunately somewhat limited in diameters, wall thicknesses and butting profiles, which in some applications and frame sizes, can limit a framebuilder’s design options when seeking to optimize stiffness and weight.

    For the P-29 and SwissCross, we considered several standard tubing suppliers like Reynolds but instead chose to develop our own heat-treated, seamless triple-butted steel alloy to the precise wall thicknesses, tubing diameters and butting profiles, specifically designed for TIG welding. Tom Ritchey has a long history of tubing development and he found this was the best way to achieve the ride quality, weight, durability and price he intended for these frames.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kosmo View Post
    Any plans for a P29 with standard, fixed dropouts?
    We've talked about it but have been generally pretty happy with the current configuration and it's versatility. It's a subject of ongoing debate and we might come around with something as our success in frames grows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritchey_dave View Post
    We've talked about it but have been generally pretty happy with the current configuration and it's versatility. It's a subject of ongoing debate and we might come around with something as our success in frames grows.
    Make one with fixed dropouts and a 44mm headtube, and I'd be all over that mess.

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    Finally Complete

    Thanks Tom, it was worth the wait for this frame

    And thanks for the advice and communication Ritchey Dave.

    Looking forward to a long relationship with this one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Learner View Post
    Thanks Tom, it was worth the wait for this frame

    And thanks for the advice and communication Ritchey Dave.

    Looking forward to a long relationship with this one!

    Wow, that is such a sweet SS ride. I might have to build one up.

    BTW, is your front tire mounted backwards?
    Enjoy the ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Learner View Post
    Thanks Tom, it was worth the wait for this frame

    And thanks for the advice and communication Ritchey Dave.

    Looking forward to a long relationship with this one!
    Love those blinglespeeds!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RCMTB View Post
    BTW, is your front tire mounted backwards?
    You made me to go check, the tread certainly makes you think so but no I did install it correctly (surprisingly in my sleep deprived state!!).

    If it was on backwards I was going to reverse the tyres on my other bikes as the traction was superb!

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    wowwww

    Just love that frame so bad!!!

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    How stiff is the P-29 during peddaling? And has anyone ridden one on step technical descents? Some say it's a "racey" layout but the 70 degree HA seems like it might do well on rocky steeps? Anyone have any experience riding it on those types of trails? I'm in So Cal and we have a lot of those. Thanks.

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    I've got several hundred miles on my P-29er so far in the Rocky Mountains. It's been a fantastic bike. Laterally stiff, but still pretty comfy. I wouldn't exactly say that this bike is made for steep and tech descents, but it's damn capable for the xc bike that it is. That said, I just raced the B68 in Breckenridge this past weekend on the Ritchey. Despite my slow climbing and mid pack finish, I did not once get passed on a descent. In fact, that's about the only place I did any passing I played around with cockpit setup quite a bit to get this bike to my liking. Once I got 'er dialed in, the thing rocks! I'd feel comfortable taking it down anything we've got in our area, and there's plenty of steep and tech gnarly around these parts.
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    Hi Ritchey Dave - I have a quick question,

    Have just seen some pics of the new P-275 (bikerumor website... prototype?) and it looks truly fantastic! I want to eventually pull the trigger on a P-29 but the thing that immediately struck me about the P-275 is the curve added to the seatstays - It looks beautiful, seems like it could add a little compliance, simplify the frame and reduce weight a bit. All good points for those of us who want a sweet steel hardtail and don't plan to ever go SS. The article suggested this was done based on the majority of P-29 buyers using gears but I've seen your comment above from earlier this year suggesting that Ritchey may not go that direction.

    Any movement from that position? Would absolutely love to see that design worked into the P-29 & that would definitely seal the deal for me.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck D View Post
    Hi Ritchey Dave - I have a quick question,

    Have just seen some pics of the new P-275 (bikerumor website... prototype?) and it looks truly fantastic! I want to eventually pull the trigger on a P-29 but the thing that immediately struck me about the P-275 is the curve added to the seatstays - It looks beautiful, seems like it could add a little compliance, simplify the frame and reduce weight a bit. All good points for those of us who want a sweet steel hardtail and don't plan to ever go SS. The article suggested this was done based on the majority of P-29 buyers using gears but I've seen your comment above from earlier this year suggesting that Ritchey may not go that direction.

    Any movement from that position? Would absolutely love to see that design worked into the P-29 & that would definitely seal the deal for me.

    Thanks!
    The article states that the seatstay bend is to clear the brake caliper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slocaus View Post
    The article states that the seatstay bend is to clear the brake caliper.
    Either way, it's an elegant solution.

    Good to see Ritchey making a few stunning MTB frames! Keep 'em coming!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuck D View Post
    Hi Ritchey Dave - I have a quick question,

    Have just seen some pics of the new P-275 (bikerumor website... prototype?) and it looks truly fantastic! I want to eventually pull the trigger on a P-29 but the thing that immediately struck me about the P-275 is the curve added to the seatstays - It looks beautiful, seems like it could add a little compliance, simplify the frame and reduce weight a bit. All good points for those of us who want a sweet steel hardtail and don't plan to ever go SS. The article suggested this was done based on the majority of P-29 buyers using gears but I've seen your comment above from earlier this year suggesting that Ritchey may not go that direction.

    Any movement from that position? Would absolutely love to see that design worked into the P-29 & that would definitely seal the deal for me.

    Thanks!
    Great question.

    The P-29er received slider dropouts due to the already-strong popularity of singlespeed 29er’s in the market. However the slider dropouts do bring a weight penalty, and for the 650B we wanted to cut some of that weight since some of our P-29er customers had already voiced a desire to have non-slider drops on that model. It’s tough to make everyone happy and we’re sorry we can’t offer both frames in both options!

    There's no plans to change the P-29er at the moment, but that doesn't mean we never will.
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    Understood, and thanks for the info Dave!

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    Can't wait for the P-275 to arrive in South Africa. That said, I love my P-29er
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    Cyclesport has the p29er on sale for $699!. Wish i had the patience to have waited until now. Otherwise kudos to you buyers. This is a great deal on a great bike

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    AM 29er

    upgrade with 120 mm Manitou Minute fork 50 mm stem... work very well
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    I may have missed this question already but how does one fit the tapered steer forks on this bike now? It is increasingly difficult to find new straight steerer forks
    Why are there so many threads about cheap ass bikes?

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    So, I have a question for the Ritchey Owners and/or Ritchey Dave, what's the bottom bracket height on the p29er and P275 frames? Alas, the geometry chart on the Ritchey website doesn't list one. Kind of curious how these fair in rooty rocky conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojopin View Post
    So, I have a question for the Ritchey Owners and/or Ritchey Dave, what's the bottom bracket height on the p29er and P275 frames? Alas, the geometry chart on the Ritchey website doesn't list one. Kind of curious how these fair in rooty rocky conditions.
    A 19" P-29er, with a 100mm travel fork and 2.1 tires, has a BB height of 320mm. Once we get our P650B unpacked from Interbike I'll let you know what the height is on that.
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