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    New question here. FSA vs Ritchey WCS vs Race Face Next SL (vs Easton) - carbon bars

    Which of these are stronger? Sort of a hard question to answer I would guess without testing each to failure... I guess I should ask, anyone ever fail any one of these? Are these all similar in weight - and I mean actual weight, not vendor claims? Ritchey claims 170g but I saw posts showing they come out closer to 180-185.... The Race Face claimed to be 170g... FSA - couldn't find a weight...

    Specifically, looking at the 660mm wide version of each, in low rise (FSA and Race Face I believe is ~19mm, while the Ritchey is ~15mm rise). Can get the FSA for $92, the Ritchey for $126, and the Race Face for $106...

    Edit: Wildcard could some Eastons MonkeyLite XCs in low rise... $75 from Jenson right now... have never really heard anything bad about them... and they are by far the best priced ones (by virtue of sale on Jenson)

    cheers
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    Bueler?

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    Personally - Easton Monkeylite XC 25.4.

    Out of those choices, RaceFace

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    Eastons are the cheaper out of all... can get them from Jenson right now for $75...

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    You can try Syntace Duraflite. I have one and I feel really good on it

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    they might cost abit more than $75 but..

    we've Syntace Duraflites in 25.4 and 31.8 flavours on our trailbikes, they work superbly + products by Syntace are tested beyond other companies standards

    http://www.syntace.com/index.cfm?pid=4

    also have a Ritchey WCS Carbon 31.8 flat bar on my trainer, i feel alot more tail chatter through the bar - it might be a tad stiffer/stronger (?) but i won't purchase another one, might get another EC90 or try a Mortop Earldom next

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    Easton definetly.

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    German Bike Magazine did a rigorous test in 2008 (see video here)



    These did not break:

    FSA (K-Force Riser)
    Ritchey (WCS Carbon)
    Syntace (Vector 31.8)
    Specialized (S-Works Pro)

    These did break:

    Easton (Monkeylite xc)
    RaceFace (Next Sl Carbon 3/4)
    Syncros (Bulc CF)
    and from Maxm, Progress and Titec

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    Was that not the test where they deliberatly over clamped them or something ?

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    Yes, they conducted it according to some EU testing standard which prescribes that it gets clamped 1.5 times the maximum allowed torque. This should simulate when people do not use a good torque wrench, or for example on a ride tighten it without one at all. Some handlebars could handle this.

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    Schmolke??? Anybody have an opinion/experience?

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    They are superlight and will do the job perfectly. They only do flat bars though.

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    just one note on spending huge sums of $$$$ or €€€€ on a handlebar (Schmolke & Co): after some minor crashes I had to replace the handlebar twice this season. It's probably the most vulnerable component on a bike

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    Hmm, my money still goes with the Easton Monkeylite SL's. I have two of these on my bikes with zero trouble. Look great, just enough flex to dampen the ride, and are uber light.
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    I would have hoped that someone in the WW Forum would step up and proclaim the superiority and absolute necessity of a $400/79g Schmolke flat bar. I guess none so far. As for the OP, I'm on Race Face Next coupled to Thompson stem and I have never had any complaints. I am looking into Ritchey cockpit for my current build. (personal preference) I have always like Ritchey WCS.

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    New question here.

    Quote Originally Posted by quax
    These did not break:

    FSA (K-Force Riser)
    Ritchey (WCS Carbon)
    Syntace (Vector 31.8)
    Specialized (S-Works Pro)

    These did break:

    Easton (Monkeylite xc)
    RaceFace (Next Sl Carbon 3/4)
    Syncros (Bulc CF)
    and from Maxm, Progress and Titec

    Any idea samples from each were tested? And if so, how many samples and how many failed out of that?

    Any details on the failure type ? (ie. deformation? cracks? catastrophic failure (snap)?

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    I've been running some Easton EC70s for 5 years. No problems. They are a little chipped up. A few 12/6 Hours on them. Just did the SM100 on them.

    I justed placed an order for some Easton EC90 for a replacement.

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    My Control Tech carbon 660mm-25.4 clamp-170 grams is holding just fine after some 5 months of agressive xc...but I would swap it for a Easton,no doubt!
    It costed me 55€ @ CRC,Easton's Monkeylite SL was 3x that
    Gajas what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MI_canuck
    Any idea samples from each were tested? And if so, how many samples and how many failed out of that?

    Any details on the failure type ? (ie. deformation? cracks? catastrophic failure (snap)?
    a) n=3 per handlebar
    b) all handlebars were tested for a simulated use of 30.000 km
    Easton: 1 of 3 failed (at 25.000km)
    Syncros: 2 of 3 failed pretty early (at ~ 6000km)
    Maxm, Progress and Titec: 3 of 3 very very early

    c) I don't know anymore


    By the way, just recently the other big German MTB magazine published a test, too. This seemed to look more into individual variables of handlebar quality (maximum load test, excessive load test, endurance limit, bolt overwind test (or however you say this in English) ). The contestants were (n=3 per bar & variable):

    FSA K-Force XC
    Race Face Next 3/4
    Ritchey WCS
    Syntace Vector 31.8
    Truvativ Noir Worldcup

    (see who apparantly didn't want to participate ;-) )

    No handlebar snapped.
    Syntace and Truvative passed with absolute no weakness.
    Raceface showed just minor wear.
    Ritchey and FSA had some minor problem with the clamp at the endurance test.

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    By the way, I ride a Truvative Noir Worldcup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quax
    a) n=3 per handlebar
    b) all handlebars were tested for a simulated use of 30.000 km
    Easton: 1 of 3 failed (at 25.000km)
    Syncros: 2 of 3 failed pretty early (at ~ 6000km)
    Maxm, Progress and Titec: 3 of 3 very very early

    c) I don't know anymore


    By the way, just recently the other big German MTB magazine published a test, too. This seemed to look more into individual variables of handlebar quality (maximum load test, excessive load test, endurance limit, bolt overwind test (or however you say this in English) ). The contestants were (n=3 per bar & variable):

    FSA K-Force XC
    Race Face Next 3/4
    Ritchey WCS
    Syntace Vector 31.8
    Truvativ Noir Worldcup

    (see who apparantly didn't want to participate ;-) )

    No handlebar snapped.
    Syntace and Truvative passed with absolute no weakness.
    Raceface showed just minor wear.
    Ritchey and FSA had some minor problem with the clamp at the endurance test.

    Great! thnx for providing the details!!

    Considering the Easton did much better than the others that failed, and how late in the simulated life cycle, makes me rest easier.

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by quax
    By the way, I ride a Truvative Noir Worldcup.
    I looked at the Noir World Cup (Truvativ) but the max width is 640mm... I want 660 to 685...

    Which ones did you get? Flat? Riser 15mm? Riser 30mm? Have you weighed them?


    thnx

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    If you apply the proper torque the Easton should be really fine.

    I have the flatbar (580mm) which came at exactly the stated weight of 120 g. However, I cut it down to 550 mm.

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    i've been riding a truvativ noir wc for about a year with zero issues.
    my other ride is an ice-cream truck.

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    I've been happy with the Race Face Next 3/4" SL's. I've got the SL's on a hardtail and a 4" FS, and the 685mm Next XC 3/4" on an all mountain bike. So far so good. The clear coat is a bit thick and soft, so it takes an imprint of the stem but doesn't affect the structure.
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