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    Are the eBay Ritchey WCS Carbon Handlebars authentic?

    Has anyone here bought a Ritchey WCS Carbon Handlebar on eBay? The prices (around $85 including shipping) are tempting, but I'm worried about them being fakes or not.

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    I really wouldn't know how to check for authenticity,but I've had mine on my bike around 2,600 miles,and not a single problem. Mine are the 660mm low rizer. Weighs in at 163.2g.
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    Why don't you just shoot an email to Ritchey to see what they say?

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    I've noticed one possible difference.

    Authentic bar:


    eBay bar (seller: bikinggolfer):


    The textured stem clamp area looks different.

    Feedback isn't always a good way to tell if a seller is offering authentic items. For two reasons:
    1. Many buyers aren't aware that they received fakes. Some fakes are really well done. Unless you have an original item to compare it to, it's hard to tell if the seller sent you a fake.
    2. Many buyers leave positive feedback before fully testing the item.

    Even though 90% of the SONY memories sold on eBay are fakes, most of the crooks that sell them have great feedback.

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    i think the difference between those 2 pics is lighting and angle.

    i got mine from an ebay seller, it looks exactly liek the ones on ritcheys web site, the carbon weave looks perfect and everythign about the logo matches ( something most companies switch slightly to that it isnt exactly the same).

    for 85ish dollars im happy.

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    I got my 580mm flat bar for $80 on fleabay, and it came in a long, Ritchey Logic box. At 138g I cannot be happier...
    "The mind will quit....well before the body does"

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    Pretty sure they're quality control rejects.
    I got the low rise for the $85 or so, and the logo is printed a little bit crooked. The bar is legit, as far as I can tell, but yeah, the appearance isn't perfect.
    Your call if you want it that way.

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    I think a lot of this stuff and "Cycle King" stuff are from the factories making the original stuff. Hope had their carbon levers being sold on ebay even before they got hold of them themselves! Also my mates have bought Van Nicholas frames direct from the factory via ebay with a choice of decals (hi-light, Van Nicholas, or Airborne). They saved 500 on the rrp.

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    i have some, really haven't tried them out yet, had them mounted got some brake fluid on the finish underneith one of the levers and some of the outher most protective (glossy)clearcoat came off, but can't see any fibers and dosen't seem to affect the bar
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    I bought a Ritchey WCS Carbon Flat handlebar on eBay a couple of weeks ago and I received it today.

    It's a FAKE!!!

    I have an original Ritchey bar that came with my GT Zaskar Team Carbon bike. I compared it to the bar I received this morning and I noticed the following differences:

    1. In the fake, the clamp area is less textured.

    2. The fake has much thinner walls (< 2 mm vs. 3 mm). This is probably the reason they weigh about the same.

    Here are some pictures that I took:



    Hope this helps people don't get fooled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfer1
    I bought a Ritchey WCS Carbon Flat handlebar on eBay a couple of weeks ago and I received it today.

    It's a FAKE!!!

    I have an original Ritchey bar that came with my GT Zaskar Team Carbon bike. I compared it to the bar I received this morning and I noticed the following differences:

    1. In the fake, the clamp area is less textured.

    2. The fake has much thinner walls (< 2 mm vs. 3 mm). This is probably the reason they weigh about the same.

    Here are some pictures that I took:



    Hope this helps people don't get fooled.
    I dunno whats worse- the fakes...or your photos.

    EDIT: Thanx for fixing the pix!
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    My pics were fine. It's possible the website was down for a few minutes.

    Just in case it happens again:
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    i have been thinking about getting those bars on ebay too. Now you are making me think that everything in life isn't real. I.E., Sports athletes, Ice Cream Cones, my 4th place I got last week.

    I decided to get myself some of this bars.

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    mine came from ebay. been on the bike since christmas. plenty of miles and 3 races. seem to hold up fine considering the vines ive hung them on and saplings that have hit them.

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    Even the real Ritchey WCS carbon bars are still made in Taiwan. The fakes perform just as satisfactorily as the expensive "real" ones IMHO.

    You can pay price A or pay price B...

    I heard even Paris Hilton has a fake Coach handbag...go figure!
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    Another reason to recall:

    INNOVATE OR DIE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    Another reason to recall:

    INNOVATE OR DIE!!!
    Oh....You mean:

    "Imitate or Die!"

    Right?

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    As they say Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, but there's a circle of Dante's Inferno reserved for flatterers.
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    Often, this stuff is their previous modelversion... could be the old spec machines are still running for OEM's or something.... So could be the 2007 WCS bar

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    According to a Ritchey Logic rep, the 3mm OEM bars are thicker, because they support bar ends. As a result- the stem clamp also must be more grippy. In conclusion, the eBay ones you find for sale ARE authentic, pre-2008 Ritchey WCS carbon bars...but sold by Taiwan retailers factory-direct. However, DO NOT use bar ends on these thinner models.
    Last edited by Zachariah; 06-24-2009 at 10:30 AM.
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    I emailed Ritchey about the eBay bar.

    Silvio Ostinelli, warranty manager of Ritchey International Ltd, responded: "This bar looks as if it is a fake WCS Ritchey bar."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zachariah
    According to a Ritchey Logic rep, the 3mm OEM bars are thicker, because they support bar ends. As a result- the stem clamp also must be more grippy. In conclusion, the eBay ones you find for sale ARE authentic, pre-2008 Ritchey WCS carbon bars...but sold by Taiwan retailers factory-direct. However, DO NOT use bar ends on these thinner models.
    BINGO!!!

    Here are mine after cutting. As you can see,the reinforcement metal is at the ends of the bars for use of clamp-ons and bar-ends. Really I could care less real or not they've been great so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sfer1
    I emailed Ritchey about the eBay bar.

    Silvio Ostinelli, warranty manager of Ritchey International Ltd, responded: "This bar looks as if it is a fake WCS Ritchey bar."
    What else would they say?

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    The WCS bar ends that I got were clearly fakes . . . the ebay seller (in China) refunded my money and let me keep the bar ends! They must be pretty cheap to make.

    I won't get hurt from a bar end failure though.

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    How did you recognise the fakeness? And which ebay seller (if I may ask of course)?

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