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    Why is this thread still open? My authentic, 138g "fakes" has served me well for the past 2.5 years. But just in case they do break...I have a brand-new, REAL 121g Bontrager Race XXX Lite backup set.
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    Glad I found this thread, I was about to buy a superlogic seatpost.
    I think I bite the bullet and pay $$$ from ritchey driectly.

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    too risky

    well guys - saving money on suspect handlebars that might fail catastrophically without anyone to sue...

    Well, I call that too risky
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevesbike
    just did a quick look over at ebay - sure are a lot of fake ones still for sale - these look fake based on clamp area:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/09-Ritchey-WCS-C...#ht_2011wt_939
    I bought from this seller this summer Ritchey WCS Marathon '09 saddle and everything was OK, except first time he send me some old Streem model...

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    anyone bought from this seller?

    http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/ws/eBayISAPI....=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    seems like many have bought it so far! Good so far? thinking of getting it. =)

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    $58? I'm 200% sure it's a fake. The authentic bar costs about $135.

    Most people leave positive feedback for these dishonest eBay sellers, because they can't tell they received a fake. They don't have an authentic Ritchey bar to compare it with the fake ones they get from these crooks.

    A few weeks ago, I ordered a Ritchey WCS carbon flat bar from Universal Cycles. It looks exactly like the one that came with my GT Zaskar Team Carbon bicycle. This means Ritchey didn't change anything. The current bars still have the reinforcements for bar ends. Bars without them are fakes.

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    Thanks for the reply!

    I saw the pics of your 3mm thick bars. The ones at my lbs look closer to the ebay ones with regards to the wall thickness. Even the newer superlogic ones there do not have such thick walls.. anyone else can verify this with their lbs?

    Thanks again. =)

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    Be careful ! As I know from our LBS and some forums in Hong Kong. There are HUGH amount of fake Ritchey products (stem,seatpost.handlebar..)are selling in HK, China and Taiwan. Only 50US$ for a SET !!!

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    what about these guys for the bars, looks good and prices are not bad.
    as steve said "As long as the rotor/rivets clears the fork, a miss is as good as a mile"

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    as steve said "As long as the rotor/rivets clears the fork, a miss is as good as a mile"

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    @samcwy: As you can see in history of seller, "187 sold" --- 187, now there may be a reason to not buy one. Yikes! Anyways, that's 187 suckas who are riding with these things, to me that's a flooded fake market, and a fake is an original fake, if you're considering riding carbon bars, pull the trigger =)
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    Why is ritchey the one copied to such an amount? No where near the quantity of other premium carbon bars on eBay, eg Easton?
    My understanding was that some of these bars are made at the same factory as original ritchey products but not sold via official distribution channels, pretty much out the back door. Same practice as happens with other luxury brands manufactured in far east such as handbags and trainers etc.
    Doesn't mean they are lesser quality but are definitely not official either.

    I can't figure out why ritchey don't clamp down on this because if they are being sold and breaking, it's hurting their brand massively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    @samcwy: As you can see in history of seller, "187 sold" --- 187, now there may be a reason to not buy one. Yikes! Anyways, that's 187 suckas who are riding with these things, to me that's a flooded fake market, and a fake is an original fake, if you're considering riding carbon bars, pull the trigger =)


    ^^^^^^ i second that. All i have to add is you get what you pay for and in my opinion i bought the real deal for the max performance one can expect from a carbon bar in terms of strength and weight and of course the bling factor.

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    Well its been another year with my "fake" Ritchey bars and still haven't broken them. I would say that I put another 1,000 miles on them before pulling them off and running them on my commuter.

    I bought another Ritchey WCS bar on Ebay and I bet this sees thousands of miles without issue. BTW 4 years ago I broke an aluminum handlebar at the stem clamp,so if anyone would/should be worried it should be me. I'm not.
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    Well, another buyer of this Ritchey handlebar on ebay, but anyone can confirm this is a fake?

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    My original Ritchey bars are sanded (and smooth) on the inside.

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    vikingboy: those are not back door or fell of the truck, purses and bags you see in the far east. Those are fakes through and through! Just like this WCS carbon ebay bar. It just goes to show that a carbon bar is not hard to copy or produce, silk screening a logo and scuffing up a clamp area is not innovation. And innovation is the only thing that will save Ritchey but how much development is going on with that company? It's been years these fakes have been on the market and the original bar hasn't changed design at all.
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    Fake ?

    Hi,
    I just bought these bars from ebay from an ebay shop called Absolutecycles. They seem a legit shop so I wasn't worried. However my bars came in today and they look a bit like the fake ones in this thread ! There doesn't seem to be any metal reinforcement for bar ends , and the thickness doesn't seem to be even (you can see this in the third pic if you look closely . Also, the bars didn't come in Ritchey packaging.

    This is the link :
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=270586100044

    these are the pics of my bars :







    Any thoughts ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by totemsub
    Hi,
    I just bought these bars from ebay from an ebay shop called Absolutecycles. They seem a legit shop so I wasn't worried. However my bars came in today and they look a bit like the fake ones in this thread ! There doesn't seem to be any metal reinforcement for bar ends , and the thickness doesn't seem to be even (you can see this in the third pic if you look closely . Also, the bars didn't come in Ritchey packaging.

    This is the link :
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=270586100044

    these are the pics of my bars :







    Any thoughts ?
    The authentic Ritchey bars actually have a thick, 3mm composite reinforcement to accommodate bar ends and brake levers. There is no reason why a reseller should keep the original packaging.
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    You think they're unsafe to ride then ? I only weigh 68 kgs so it shouldn't be a problem to try these out right ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by totemsub
    You think they're unsafe to ride then ? I only weigh 68 kgs so it shouldn't be a problem to try these out right ?
    I am 75kg and my fakes has been reliable(no bar ends used) for three straight seasons.
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    All right ! Do you think that lock-on grips would damage them ?

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    i used my ODI lockons on my "fakes" too and no issues. I only just snugged them enough to prevent rotation though and YMMV.

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    Let keep going with this, I recently bought some of these same bars off ebay for $55, from a seller with 0 feedback and only sold 2 other products. Sadly I think I got scammed but I do have a routing number.

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    I know this is an old post, but for reasons mentioned above about fakes and knock offs, I'll pay a little extra and buy from my LBS. As a matter of fact I ordered a WCS Alloy 1-Bolt seatpost, his price was was compatible to any online retailer, which always makes me a return customer. I'll be ordering a new Ritchey bar and stem from him soon. You could save a few bucks on gear, or you could perhaps save your life or serious injury and pay for the reel deal. JMO.

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    It really depends how lucky You are. I have ridden 3 years with my "fake" WCS carbon bar one without issue. Except I crashed one side myself. Repaired and still is good for miles.
    When I wanted to buy FSA K-force carbon seatpost I specially chosed used but mint from big shop not new which could possibly be fake.

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    Seams in the carbon

    Got my WCS Carbon bars from China (eBay) and this is what I got. Any thoughts on if carbon fiber bars are suppose to have these 'seams' in them. they seem to run the length of the bar on the top and bottom, then they 'merge' into this shape where there are seams that run vertically 4"(ish) to the left and right of the center logo.

    These seams are smooth however they look odd. I wish I could post an image but the site won't let me because Im a newbie here....

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    Will I have any reason to think that this is not an original?

    Ritchey WCS Carbon (UD) 1-Bolt Road Bicycle Seatpost Inline 350 x 27.2mm | eBay

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    Original or Fake ?!

    hello guys, did anyone have ever bought Ritchey from this ebay Seller ? chubbypila66
    I just bought one in an Auction today for USD 75.00 and i am afraid that it could be a fake, because analyzing the pictures the carbon texture looks different from the original Ritchey website. I dont know if the photos are low quality or if its a fake handlebar. This seller is Top Rated with 99.99% Positive Feedback. Here is the link to the Handlebar that ive bought. What do you guys think ?
    Link: (please substitute the * for . )

    www*ebay*com/itm/180950027588?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p398 4.m1439.l2649]2011 RITCHEY WCS CARBON RIZE MTB HANDLEBAR 31.8MM X 660MM NEW


    Thank you guys. Bye

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    Now I am worried. I bought a WCS Carbon handlebar from a HK supplier through Aliexpress a few days ago, it was super-cheap. Probably too good to be true.

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    How are they?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jfloren View Post
    Now I am worried. I bought a WCS Carbon handlebar from a HK supplier through Aliexpress a few days ago, it was super-cheap. Probably too good to be true.
    Hey Jflo

    How are those bars from Aliexpress? Do they seem ok? I was eye-ing them myself. I'll send you a PM as well.

    Anyone else pick up 1 of these bars from these Alexpress guys?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by eimart View Post
    hello guys, did anyone have ever bought Ritchey from this ebay Seller ? chubbypila66
    I just bought one in an Auction today for USD 75.00 and i am afraid that it could be a fake, because analyzing the pictures the carbon texture looks different from the original Ritchey website. I dont know if the photos are low quality or if its a fake handlebar. This seller is Top Rated with 99.99% Positive Feedback. Here is the link to the Handlebar that ive bought. What do you guys think ?
    Link: (please substitute the * for . )

    www*ebay*com/itm/180950027588?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p398 4.m1439.l2649]2011 RITCHEY WCS CARBON RIZE MTB HANDLEBAR 31.8MM X 660MM NEW


    Thank you guys. Bye
    It's fake. I bought one from this seller in 2008. However, there are such things as "good fakes." My fake Ritchey was used(XC riding) from 2/2008-11/2010 without a single hitch. Ha, I even sold them for MORE than I paid($75.00USD).
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    Chubbypila66

    I just bought from this guy on eBay. I bought EC90 SL Riser bar. I paid on Wednesday and received Friday (today). I am quite concerned because there is a seam that goes the entire length of the bar. It is smooth, but looks really weird. They also weigh 10 grams more than advertised on 2 different scale.

    Fakes?

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    greenerob,

    I got your message, thanks...

    I did some research and found pics.

    visable difference.


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    Thanks

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    At Ritchey, we would prefer you buy genuine Ritchey products from an authorized dealer, of course. BUT we would rather you buy a competitor’s product rather than counterfeit Ritchey goods of questionable origin found on Ebay or elsewhere.

    We (as well as other manufacturers) have tested counterfeit handlebars and have found them to not pass our internal tests. Handlebar failures can cause a particularly unpleasant crash. We would urge our fellow riders to not take chances in this area…purchase a quality CE tested and approved handlebar from a manufacturer you trust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greenerob View Post
    I just bought from this guy on eBay. I bought EC90 SL Riser bar. I paid on Wednesday and received Friday (today). I am quite concerned because there is a seam that goes the entire length of the bar. It is smooth, but looks really weird. They also weigh 10 grams more than advertised on 2 different scale.


    Fakes?
    Quite possibly. Fakes of Thomson, Ritchey, Easton, 3T, Zipp and Truvativ are all over eBay.....and eBay turns a blind eye to it all!
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    Here it s a fake one. Look at the inner tube thickness .

    I think mine is fake also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    I think mine is fake also.
    Holy wah. I'd say those are most definitely fakes. They aren't even close to uniform in thickness. Where did you get those?

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    Fake one .


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    This eBay seller has about 200 000 feedbacks. Hard to believe that he's selling fake stuffs.

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    Believe it!! I bought fake Airotors from this clown. They arrived the same day as ones that came from an actual store. The difference was clear. No original packaging was just the beginning. This guy has all those feedbacks because 99.9% of people can't tell and by the time they do, they have already left their feedback.

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    Ritchey WCS Carbon Fiber Mountain Bike Riser Bar 31 8mm 126 Grams | eBay
    I got it on eBay , seller is in NY USA . Has 200,000 feedbacks .
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    Quote Originally Posted by g5magic View Post
    This eBay seller has about 200 000 feedbacks. Hard to believe that he's selling fake stuffs.
    Believe it!! I bought fake Airotors from this clown. They arrived the same day as ones that came from an actual store. The difference was clear. No original packaging was just the beginning. This guy has all those feedbacks because 99.9% of people can't tell and by the time they do, they have already left their feedback.

    Also, he is NOT located in New York. Check the interwebs for remarks on his fake products and poor service.

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    I bought some of these fake bars on ebay, but not too concerned as mines were clearly labeled not full carbon. So probably carbon over alum. Then I bought some real full carbon Eastons and the difference was plain as day. So was the weight !!

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    STAY AWAY FROM COUNTERFEIT CARBON BARS! Mine just snapped in half on me last night. Fortunately a tree broke my fall. Banged and bruised. I consider myself blessed and much wiser.

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    I've seen a lot of these fake Ritchey bars on ebay, some even from USA sellers. I think they must be importing them. No retail packaging is a warning sign. Another sign is the rise on the bars. Authentic Ritchey WCS and Superlogic only come in a very low 15mm rise. The ones on ebay that are fake will have much steeper rises. The logos are also usually suspect, as they will be sized incorrectly or mis-aligned.

    Lots of fake carbon stems, too.
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