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    What is the best painkiller?

    Prescription or over-the-counter. For broken bones and general broken body parts?

    What have you tried and what has worked best for you?

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    Why do you ask this question? Have you been injured? If so, and your pain is severe enough to warrant this kind of medication, seek treatment please.

    There's lots of good ones. Obviously prescription is the best.
    Fentanyl, Morphine are very good analgesics but good luck getting it.
    OTC- I would say Tylenol PM because it knocks you out too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tedman
    Why do you ask this question? Have you been injured? If so, and your pain is severe enough to warrant this kind of medication, seek treatment please.

    There's lots of good ones. Obviously prescription is the best.
    Fentanyl, Morphine are very good analgesics but good luck getting it.
    OTC- I would say Tylenol PM because it knocks you out too.
    I'm only asking to listen to people's experiences and stimulate discussion. I think having a painkiller preference or knowledge when talking to the doctor is useful. Otherwise, you have zero control/input on what they give you.

    I used to always have prescription Motrin 800s handy for all my bumps and bruises. But then, I found out those 500 count Motrin 200s at Costco are the same thing. Just take 4!

    I've had Vicodin prescribed to me a couple times but I think it is the devil! I had nightmares, constipation and a massive headache when I went off it after a week.

    And then I had Flexoril given to me for a broken hand and I was basically asleep for two days. Never again!

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    IBU 800's, beer and MJ
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Ridiculous. This is between a patient and a physician, not the internet and an individual.

    However, it will be fun to see this thread develop, then send it out to some forums where physicians and pharmacists collaborate for the lulz.

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    Ice

    Not sure about putting it on broken bones but for aches and pains it can't be beat. It's cheap, won't tear up your stomach, but it will get the inflammation down.

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    They gave me Narco for my broken leg.....did it help......it made me sleepy. So I guess it worked, I felt no pain while I was asleep.
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    800mg Ibuprofens, ice, compression and rest worked wonders on cutting the swelling and pain after each of my 4 knee surgeries.

    I did get a bunch of Tramadols for days when I'm out backpacking and push my messed up knee way the hell too hard. They work and knock the pain down but the side effects ain't fun and i still have most of them.
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    I don't take stuff often but when I had my shoulder surgery it was extremely painful for several weeks afterward so Percocet became my best friend. I did limit my self to one per day in the evening as I did not want to get in over my head using them. That is the strongest pain killer I have ever used. I have a huge bottle of Darvocet that I was given for my shoulder before the surgery but it didn't touch the pain so I never took any.

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    A good girlfriend that can take your mind off the pain and smoking a fatty.

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    nothing beats heroin
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    Quote Originally Posted by ColorVoyeur
    A good girlfriend that can take your mind off the pain and smoking a fatty.
    eww

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    hmm...i have terrific luck with vicodin/vicoprofen, and flexoril. soma is a phenomenal muscle relaxant, but if the flexoril knocks you down, you'd be out for a week on soma. i get zero relief from oxycodone-based painkillers like percocet, et al; they just make me itchy. if you're looking for narcos, maybe try that route?

    beyond ibuprofen, i take a nice, non-narcotic painkiller/extremely mild muscle relaxant called ultram. it's a great in-between. takes more of the edge off than plain old advil/motrin, but isn't a heavy hitter like narcotics. i'm told it can affect people who are sensitive to codeine adversely, however. i'm not (codeine is in one of my migraine meds), so i can't advise here.

    talk to your doc to avoid trouble, be monitored, and avoid drug interactions. and that's today's helpful tip from your friendly, neighborhood armchair physician. (really i have a chronic pain disorder and break myself off on the regular.)

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    I used to pop 800mg motrins until my doc strongly advised against it, saying that it was bad for the kidneys and liver to take that much. 600 mg / dosage was the most he was willing to prescribe me.

    And, of course, whenever you mix alcohol with known liver/kidney toxins like Tylenol and ibuprofen, you are increasing the toxicity of those toxins. So, that’s something to be at least somewhat mindful of.

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    oxycontin and fentanyl work great.. but if you go into a hospital asking for either, theres a pretty good chance you'll get marked as a drug-seeker. extremely dangerous, highly addictive drugs, but they work (maybe too well).

    opiates all work pretty much the same. some are just stronger and harder hitting than others. its not really the thing you have much position to be asking for when you're seriously injured, they're going to give you what they feel is necessary.

    like someone said, the ibuprofen 800's you get from the hospital are identical to the 200's you get at the drug store for cheap. not even worth filling the prescription. its much less toxic than acetaminophen.

    soma works amazing for muscle strain or pulled backs. its safe enough that most doctors will shell you out a bottle of it pretty much on demand. its very mildly addictive, but you'd need to be taking them multiple times a day for months before its a problem (unlike something like oxycontin, you'll have withdrawal symptoms within a week of daily use).

    i think its more a matter of determining how much poison you're really willing to swallow versus what works best. popping an oxy sure works better than a couple motrins, but if you can manage with motrins you're better off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Pivot
    like someone said, the ibuprofen 800's you get from the hospital are identical to the 200's you get at the drug store for cheap. not even worth filling the prescription. its much less toxic than acetaminophen.
    huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    huh?
    ? tylenol is terrible for you. ibuprofen less so.

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    The hysterics in this thread. I will be taking the advice dispensed here, though. Ultram sounds promising, so I will tell my doctor to prescribe it to me as a muscle relaxant.

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    its not a muscle relaxant. its a weird pseudo opiate. http://www.drugs.com/ultram.html

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    That sucks...

    Once in a while, I get a bad shoulder and neck pain, and lots of tightness there. I try to work it out, but it doesn't work. What should I tell my doctor to prescribe for me? Norco? I read about something called Neurontin on the internet, and I think I might tell my physician to prescribe it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Pivot
    ? tylenol is terrible for you. ibuprofen less so.
    and you say that because....?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    That sucks...

    Once in a while, I get a bad shoulder and neck pain, and lots of tightness there. I try to work it out, but it doesn't work. What should I tell my doctor to prescribe for me? Norco? I read about something called Neurontin on the internet, and I think I might tell my physician to prescribe it.
    LOL

    Do what many of my patients do....request 2 weeks off from work, a handicapped parking pass, and 30 tabs of percocet
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    I heard about this drug called cefpodoxtriaxametazalonamine and that if taken in too high quantities, it can be very addictive, but it is supposed to have relaxing and analgesic effects. What does the forum suggest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    I heard about this drug called cefpodoxtriaxametazalonamine and that if taken in too high quantities, it can be very addictive, but it is supposed to have relaxing and analgesic effects. What does the forum suggest?
    Is it safe to take with alcohol?
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    I don't know. I assume in moderation, however I'd like the forum's opinions on this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    I don't know. I assume in moderation, however I'd like the forum's opinions on this stuff.
    Good call. It sounds safer than tylenol
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    tylenol is perfectly safe, 3.9 grams and above, served with an N-AcC chaser to wash it down.

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    Pain Research?

    Going by the responses in this thread, what works for some does not work for others.
    I had a Pharm student training w/me for a long time. He said:
    Asprin is better than the NSAID if your stomach can handle it.
    What is addictive for some is a very unpleasant side effect for others.
    Many very straight people have developed a serious "Jones" pain killer addiction.
    I judge them not. Pain management is serious business. I have had more than most.

    I go to Chiro and Acupuncture weekly, CMT monthly.
    I hang upside down every morning "Inversion" and try to stretch daily.
    I am on my 5th shoulder injury. This from an OTH last Oct. I am getting really tired of therapy and rehab workouts, but what choice do I have! LOL

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    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by francois
    I'm only asking to listen to people's experiences and stimulate discussion. I think having a painkiller preference or knowledge when talking to the doctor is useful. Otherwise, you have zero control/input on what they give you.

    I used to always have prescription Motrin 800s handy for all my bumps and bruises. But then, I found out those 500 count Motrin 200s at Costco are the same thing. Just take 4!

    I've had Vicodin prescribed to me a couple times but I think it is the devil! I had nightmares, constipation and a massive headache when I went off it after a week.

    And then I had Flexoril given to me for a broken hand and I was basically asleep for two days. Never again!

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    just ask your doc for some oxycontins to keep around the house for "pain"

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Squeaky Wheel
    and you say that because....?
    buncha foil hat weirdos told me.

    http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm168830.htm

    .. or a committee appointed to advise on liver damage caused by it.. but potato-patato.

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    For some aches hard to beat the opiates, usually vicodin for my longer term storage from multiple dental issues (usually the acetaminophen rather than ibuprofen marriage from what I get prescribed, tho).

    Silly calling stuff like Motrin anything more than ibuprofen, or any of the other brand names for ibuprofen, acetaminophen or aspiring or common generic branded combinations (always loved the Excedrin--good ol' aspirin, acetaminophen plus caffeine but so mysterious in the commercial campaign).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikinfoolferlife
    (always loved the Excedrin--good ol' aspirin, acetaminophen plus caffeine but so mysterious in the commercial campaign).
    "it get's the head out"? or something like that?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    I recommend Anicin....you need a delorean to go back to the 80's to get it though

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwampDonkeyDisco
    I recommend Anicin....you need a delorean to go back to the 80's to get it though
    Oh yeah, those guys too! Good ol' caffeine combined with your favorite pain killer...but it's still out there, no need for the DeLorean (altho why not use one if you've got one).

    The Excedrin campaign I think was more along the lines of "pain relief-fast" or something and got in trouble for specifying how fast at one point, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    IBU 800's, beer and MJ
    I up you IBU 1600's or Tramatal.
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    I think someone already mentioned this but pain killers work different for different people..

    I found, after several different surgeries that (for me):

    1. Morphine does absolutely nothing for me to control pain. It just makes my blood pressure drop, my heart race, I get cold and clammy, then I puke all over the place. Not fun when you are in intense pain from surgery.
    2. Vicodin does almost nothing for my pain and gives me intense headaches and even worse constipation.
    3. Percocet/Percodin or Darvocet is the only thing I found that works for me for post-op levels of pain and I had no real side-effects. Personally, I had no problems discontinuing use when it was no longer needed; however, I can see how it can easily become addicting for others with the almost euphoric rush that comes with its' use. Just be careful with it and talk to your doc about it.

    4. For everything else (bumps and bruises) good 'ol ibuprofen does the trick. Stick to the instructions as, just like acetaminophen, ibuprofen it is toxic to the liver in large quantities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by One Pivot
    buncha foil hat weirdos told me.

    http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm168830.htm

    .. or a committee appointed to advise on liver damage caused by it.. but potato-patato.
    and ibuprofen, like all nsaids, carries a black box warning for heart attack, stroke, and potentially fatal GI bleeding

    http://blackboxrx.com/app/display.php?id=318

    Tylenol, in the recommended doses of <4g/day, is considered safer than NSAIDs by just about everyone. Even the tin foil hat weirdos agree.
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    Sex! always stops the PAIN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    I heard about this drug called cefpodoxtriaxametazalonamine and that if taken in too high quantities, it can be very addictive, but it is supposed to have relaxing and analgesic effects. What does the forum suggest?
    cefpodoxtriaxametazalonamine?
    This is a joke, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve
    cefpodoxtriaxametazalonamine?
    This is a joke, right?
    I've seen crazier muti-med combos from some of my patients who get their meds OTC south of the border
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    That's no joke, Senor.

    Anyhow, does the forum have anymore medications they can throw out there that might work for me? I was thinking Baclofen or something like Propafenone might be the big ticket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    That's no joke, Senor.

    Anyhow, does the forum have anymore medications they can throw out there that might work for me? I was thinking Baclofen or something like Propafenone might be the big ticket.
    A seconal/zolpidem cocktail always takes the edge off
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    I've had great luck trying that with a K-dur Smoothie. About 50 +Vanilla Ice Cream and some Root Beer. Mmmmmm...

    Also, a good, effective painkiller is to get benzonatate, and cut the perls open and suck the benzonatate juice right out of them. Won't taste great, but that takes care of lots of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    That's no joke, Senor.
    Not one hit on google or bing. Not one.
    If its real, its spelled differently, or is very very very top secret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smilinsteve
    Not one hit on google or bing. Not one.
    If its real, its spelled differently, or is very very very top secret.
    I once saw you boast about doing more drugs than anyone else on this forum... and now a little painkiller thread has you all discombobulated? I'm amused.

    Onto the topic though... yeah it varies a lot from person to person. The one universal truth is that you gotta pay to play. The amount of pain relief is usually proportional to the loss of mental/motor function.

    I do like Aleve for inflammation. Note that it is not an analgesic, only an anti-inflammatory, so your treating the cause not the symptom. You might not even notice you're taking it for a day or two but it's actually helping you heal. The lower doses make it easier on the tummy than ibuprophen.

    I've broken a collar bone, wrist, hand, thumb, and my leg in 4 places which required surgery and a titanium rod and did them all with zero pain meds. Unless you've got cancer or your vertebrae fused together or some long term debilitating injury there's just no excuse for begging your doc for opiates. OH BOOHOO I FELL OFF MY BIKE GIVE ME DRUGS!!! F@cking p@ssies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dogbrain
    I once saw you boast about doing more drugs than anyone else on this forum... and now a little painkiller thread has you all discombobulated? I'm amused.
    Really? I think you have me confused with someone else.


    I do like Aleve for inflammation. Note that it is not an analgesic, only an anti-inflammatory, so your treating the cause not the symptom. You might not even notice you're taking it for a day or two but it's actually helping you heal. The lower doses make it easier on the tummy than ibuprophen.
    I like Aleve as well. I disagree that it is not an analgesic. Analgesic just means painkiller. Its anti-inflammatory properties is one way it achieves it's analgesia.
    To be more technical, inhibition of prostaglandin synthesis reduces inflammation and also has a separate effect on reducing pain directly.

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    I am ridic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glitz
    Ridiculous. This is between a patient and a physician, not the internet and an individual.
    Hardly ridiculous. Makes me actually think I know who you are...someone training to be in the medical establishment.

    An educated consumer is every physician's worst nightmare in the wonderful world of western meds.

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