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    Tree meet face, major facial trauma, time off bike??

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    Dude, I'm glad you're alive - I wish you well, man!

    Btw - which Pisgah trail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by woodchips View Post
    Dude, I'm glad you're alive - I wish you well, man!

    Btw - which Pisgah trail?
    Thanks.

    Embarrassingly enough, Lower Black...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Thanks.

    Embarrassingly enough, Lower Black...
    Well, at least you can say it was Pisgah, and not DuPont...

    *edit - regardless of where you're at, we all know it only takes one small thing to happen to get everything unsettled.

    Lower B is fun and fast, and it's too easy to get caught up in the fun of it all!
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    July 4th: Mistake on Big Rock, DuPont: Hit tree with face & first ER said my injury was above their pay grade-thankfully. Next ER, facial trauma surgeon "I can fix that." Through and through cut on lower lip with 35 stitches inside & outside to close. Kind of shocking to see one's teeth with the mouth closed. No painkiller & antibiotics as prophylaxis-no infection. Back on bike 2 days later in full skittish mode. About 4 months later scar is not too bad, daily lip massage to break up scar tissue. Lip alignment is about as good as I could ask for. Bill from first ER was about $1,000- hope you have good insurance. I don't think I'd ride again without it. I think you took a much harder hit than I did & I am not sure what I am waiting on to get a full face helmet. Best wishes for a full & speedy recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowdownhill View Post
    July 4th: Mistake on Big Rock, DuPont: Hit tree with face & first ER said my injury was above their pay grade-thankfully. Next ER, facial trauma surgeon "I can fix that." Through and through cut on lower lip with 35 stitches inside & outside to close. Kind of shocking to see one's teeth with the mouth closed. No painkiller & antibiotics as prophylaxis-no infection. Back on bike 2 days later in full skittish mode. About 4 months later scar is not too bad, daily lip massage to break up scar tissue. Lip alignment is about as good as I could ask for. Bill from first ER was about $1,000- hope you have good insurance. I don't think I'd ride again without it. I think you took a much harder hit than I did & I am not sure what I am waiting on to get a full face helmet. Best wishes for a full & speedy recovery.
    Ouch. Were you at Transylvania Regional? They more or less did the same thing, booted me to Mission HQ, "mothership" as they called it.

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    I did end up at Mission but not from Transylvania. Violated Carlos' first rule: "Don't do stupid s***." It will get better.

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    A few of us health care professionals wear full face helmets because most self-insured hospitals have very poor maxillofacial coverage in their policies, and the insured gets stuck with the bill. Hope your recovery goes well!
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    Coincidentally, almost this exact injury happened to me on Oct 13th. Snagged my bars on a branch and careened into a tree face first. I was going pretty slowly, less than 8mph according to my Garmin, on an easy trail I've ridden close to 200 times.

    I also avoided a concussion, but received a Le forte III fracture, fractured sinus, and a huge laceration through my eyebrow that perfectly matched the outline of my sunglasses. Also some stupendous black eyes and swelling a few days later. Thankfully no eye injuries or anything really "permanent."

    There was enough displacement that I had maxillofacial surgery a week later. Luckily the surgeon was able to go through my mouth and use the existing lacerations, so I didn't need the "full face" surgery. Went home with some sweet titanium hardware.

    The downside is that I'm now on week 2 of 4 of having my jaw wired shut. Pain has been surprisingly minimal; no painkillers needed since I left the hospital. Swelling and numbness are nearly gone. Other than that (and not biking of course) I'm pretty much back to normal. I should be back on the bike by December. Considering how bad things could have been I consider myself very lucky.

    Anyway, YMMV of course. Good luck with the recovery!
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    Good luck with the neurologist! I also had a very small air pocket and was sent home with antibiotics; so far no issues. To be honest not biking or being able to do much outside has been the worst part for me. The jaw definitely sucked at first but now that I have a few acceptable (blendable) recipes it's not too bad.

    Naturally I've thought a lot about gear after this. In my case I think my accident was so bad due to not riding with a "reserve" (too comfortable with the trail, not paying full attention, etc), and improperly wearing my helmet (it was loose enough that the visor just pushed the whole thing back on my head instead of absorbing any impact).

    I actually own a full face that I use for park riding, but I still can't imagine wearing it regularly for XC rides like I was on in this case. Instead I picked up a Bell Super which seems like a great compromise for the riding I typically do. We'll see how long I put up with the chin bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    Do you plan on going full face after this? I'm thinking about doing it full time for a while.
    Check out the Fox Airframe. Most comfortable full face helmet ever for me. You seriously don't even realize it's a full face and airflow, while obviously not as good as a regular helmet, is excellent. I could easily wear it for every ride if I had to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adodero View Post
    His advice when I got back to riding was to start with Sunday stroll type pace, but also to consider disciplining myself to ride at 60-70% of my capability level on a regular basis.
    Yup, exactly. This basically doesn't happen with me on familiar trails unless I consciously dial it down.

    Happened to me up in Mammoth Lakes, CA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Happened to me up in Mammoth Lakes, CA.
    That's where I broke my femur back in 2009...on a dirt bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k2rider1964 View Post
    That's where I broke my femur back in 2009...on a dirt bike.
    The hospital staff seemed very experienced!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    The hospital staff seemed very experienced!
    Hey Perfectzero I rode Cannell with you a couple years back. Hope you heal up well. Hope we can all ride again some time and get better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by trmn8er View Post
    Hey Perfectzero I rode Cannell with you a couple years back. Hope you heal up well. Hope we can all ride again some time and get better!
    Thanks! So far so good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    The hospital staff seemed very experienced!
    My surgeon, Michael Karch, is/was a US Snowboard Team surgeon and yeah, I'm sure they've seen it all working in Mammoth. They have all the standard injuries from skiers and snowboarders all Winter and then MTB's and dirt bikes all Summer. Those damn trees get in everybody's way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k2rider1964 View Post
    Check out the Fox Airframe. Most comfortable full face helmet ever for me. You seriously don't even realize it's a full face and airflow, while obviously not as good as a regular helmet, is excellent. I could easily wear it for every ride if I had to.

    k2, I looked for the Airframe on Google, but only came up with the Proframe. Is the Airframe an older model?
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    I think a lot for me is that I've been progressing a lot lately and I let myself get a little too far ahead of where I should be.
    I had one of my worst crashes where my confidence and skill level hadn't had time to link up after a progression in my skill. The confidence level overtook my skill level!
    Since then I try to remind myself any time I am progressing or doing new stuff to take it slow and let the new skills sink in.
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    This saga is finally over for me. Quick timeline for future reference:

    13 Oct: initial accident; ct scans, swelling but no concussion, etc.
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    23 Oct: ORIF surgery; acquire titanium hardware, jaw wired shut.

    31 Oct: return to work, taking advantage of convenient halloween costume.

    21 Nov (surgery +4 wks): jaw unwired
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    1 Dec (~surgery +6 wks): cleared to find another tree to bash my face against.

    5 Dec: first post-accident ride!
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    That's a rad image! Good to see you're out there gettin after it already brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatsDirt View Post
    That's a rad image! Good to see you're out there gettin after it already brother!
    Got a 3d printer at work...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PerfectZero View Post
    Got a 3d printer at work...
    There's no question, it must be done.

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    I canít believe somebody wired you shut for 4 weeks! Thatís completely old school, especially for a straightforward fracture pattern. At least you probably lost some weight.

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