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    Aged rider please come in

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    I'm in the middle of 40s and I really like this sport but my knees cannot compromise on it.

    About a month ago I got pain on my knees then I visit a physician. He only gave me a neurothropic pills but the pain is still exist while I'm riding. I haven't consulting about it yet but from some articles that I read on internet it said that this is a symptom of osteophorosis.

    I'm just worrying about it.

    What should I do then? Should I stop this sport and switch to another one or what?
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    I also was having some Knee problems. I have had my right knee reconstructed but not replaced. I found trying a new seat position (height) every so often changes the strain (pain on my knees).

    I don't train any leg activities other than riding and the pain comes and goes.

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    do you still ride? how often you ride on track?

    what do the physician or orthopedist say about it? should we stop or just go on?

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    I’m an overweight person who has gout. Gout has torn my joints up in my knees, ankles and hips. This sport/riding has made them stronger.

    I am thinking, if you are in a comfortable position when you ride? Not balled up and tight sitting? Not bringing your legs too high. Sometimes when I ride, I see people who bring their knees far too high and it looks like into their chest.

    When I ride, I change gears many times. As soon as my legs start to feel fatigued, I change gears, I change gears so much, I may only be in one gear for a few feet and back to another gear.

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    You're not 'aged'.

    Don't give up on this sport yet--it's way too early and you haven't tried everything. Work with your doctor to get to the bottom of the problem. Go to specialists or other doctors if necessary. I prefer doctors who do sports themselves or who understand active clientele as they understand the need to be active, not just mobile. Once diagnosed, physical therapy may help.

    At the same time, look into your bike fit. Look for a place to get it fitted. Don't push too large a gear. Work up to longer distances and times and harder gears and hills. Listen to your pain and body and rest when necessary to recover. It's not a good idea to pop Advil or pills to reduce pain for a long period of time or the pain reliever could mask the fact that you're doing damage to your body.

    Good luck!

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    56 but not aged

    Still get smoked by guys older than me. I find myself using more discretion than valor on a lot of technical stuff because I suspect healing is slower, and there's always the m - f career stuff to worry about. And I need more recovery time after long rides.

    Try to find n orthopod who's also a cyclist, and get a good fit, ride smart and you should have lots of happy trails ahead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassava View Post
    old rider please come in

    I'm in the middle of 40s and I really like this sport but my knees cannot compromise on it.

    About a month ago I got pain on my knees then I visit a physician. He only gave me a neurothropic pills but the pain is still exist while I'm riding. I haven't consulting about it yet but from some articles that I read on internet it said that this is a symptom of osteophorosis.

    I'm just worrying about it.

    What should I do then? Should I stop this sport and switch to another one or what?
    Are you wearing clipless shoes? Is your seat to height or to far back? The position of your cleats could affect the knee joint causing pain. After I had bilateral ACL reconstruction I got the Specialized shoes that keep your foot at a 17 DEG angle to help with my knee positioning that I believed was causing discomfort (not pain) on climbs.

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    If you're thinking 40s is aged then you should read this, it proves age is a state of mind more anything else.



    The Legend of Cliff Young: The 61 Year Old Farmer Who Won the World’s Toughest Race


    Maybe see a sports medicine Dr., my knees always hurt and I find fish oil really helps.
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    I'm 61 and started mountain biking when I bought a Gary Fisher Excalibur from a skinny guy (Gary) in Marin county operating out of a shop the size of a two car garage. I brought it out east and started riding before Fat Chance even came on the scene. Over that time I have had periodic bouts with knee issues and found the following to help:

    • Besides riding, go for occasional trail runs; it loosens the legs and teaches you about terrain.
    • As mentioned before, positioning on the bike is critical. Seat height, bar width, stem length etc are really important.
    • Stop riding in clips and switch to platforms. Being able to move your feet around while you ride will make a world of difference. And don't use flat bottom shoes like the 5-10s/Tevas. They grip great but besides looking goofy on anyone over 12 they have lousy arch support. There are stiff sole trail running shoes on the market, some even with the same soles used by 5-10 that are much better for your feet.
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    Well thank you very very much on all of your attention to my thread especially on my problem.

    I don't know since the physician that I've visited is a general practitioner not a specialist and he made a general curing method.

    I would take the fish oil or somekind like that to help this remedy.

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    I'm 173 cm and my bike is HT 17"

    Let me tell you the cause of this problem. When I took a ride with my 5 years old son. I placed him on the top tube and lower down the saddle to its lowest position. Then after that we were starting the ride when I met the ascending road I pushed my leg pretty hard for going up that part as a result it caused pain on my right knee.

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    Mid-40s "old"? OK, man, just give it up, get a nice comfy chair somewhere and sit. While everyone around you will still be riding into their late 50s, you can lament how you're so "old".
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    Well I thought that I'm the oldest one at here in fact that is not supposed to be like that and I'm not considering myself as the aged one either.

    Perhaps I should have retract my statement about 'the aged rider' and change it with 'knee injury' or something relevant.

    Above thirties the bone is not as stronger as we were on twenties isn't it? That is what I'm worrying about. The osteoporosis could be happen on everyone at my age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassava View Post
    old rider please come in

    I'm in the middle of 40s and I really like this sport but my knees cannot compromise on it.

    About a month ago I got pain on my knees then I visit a physician. He only gave me a neurothropic pills but the pain is still exist while I'm riding. I haven't consulting about it yet but from some articles that I read on internet it said that this is a symptom of osteophorosis.

    I'm just worrying about it.

    What should I do then? Should I stop this sport and switch to another one or what?
    Stop listening to the GP, and take the advice others have given about correct bike fit. Doctors give advise primarily to CYA, not which is in your best interest. Find one who understands active lifestyles, get the bike to fit right, and give it another try.
    Oh & yeah, osteoporosis is for old women, so STFU - grab your nutsack and just go ride.
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    I started having knee pain about 1.5 yrs. ago. Actually resumed cycling after that initial pain and I find that riding generally helps with strengthening the muscles and I now have way less pain than before I resumed riding.

    But every once in a while, I'll get a sore knee and what I have found that works wonders is a small hand-help ultrasound massager. I got mine on eBay some years ago for some neck/shoulder pain I was having. I see a chiropractor for that and she uses ultrasound on me and I picked up the small u/s unit to use in between visits. But when the knee pain popped up, I decided to try the u/s on it and wow, 15 minutes and the pain was gone. I use a mix of ultra-sound gel and BioFreeze pain gel for the coupling gel. The trick is to flex your knee into a position where you can get the massager head into as direct contact with the painful area as possible. With the low power units like I have, I don't move it around that much, but after 5-10 minutes, you'll start feeling a little warmth. The big unit the chiro. uses will burn you if you leave it in one place too long.

    When I was first getting over the initial knee pain, I used the u/s twice a day for a week or two then tapered down slowly until now I only do it every few weeks when I feel the need. I think my issue is a slight meniscus tear and some early arthritis (according to the Dr's evaluation). The ultrasound helps with things like ligaments and discs by creating tiny bubbles (cavitation) in the tissue. As the bubbles collapse, they encourage fluid flow in the tissue. Tissue like the knee meniscus and discs between vertebrae have very poor circulation, so the u/s can help the tissue to heal by encouraging fluid flow. It worked wonders on a compressed disc in my neck and seems to work on my knees.

    Might see if you can borrow one, or they can usually be had for $50-100 in eBay nowadays. Also pick up a bottle of ultra-sound gel to use with it. I bought a 250g bottle and have been using that same bottle, along with the BioFreeze gel for around 5-6 years now.

    It is not a cure-all, though. The small units you can buy have limited power and thus penetration depth. So they will only help if the affected area is fairly close to the surface. I find it does not help with sore muscles or things like that. Also, you are supposed to be careful and not get the ultra-sound close to your eyes.
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    Yoga helped my knee pain, back pain and even elbow pain. Daily stretching is critical as we get older and yoga is a great way to take care of it.
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    Have you had a proper bike fitting done? It's worth the money. You also might want to try a foam roller for after your rides.

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    Mid 40's isn't old. As you've discovered, there are older riders than you still kicking it. Just make sure your bike is setup right. I've been taking joint supplements including fish oil to keep my joints taking too much of a beating. I also dropped well over 27 lbs which helps the knees out a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MtnHound View Post
    Mid 40's isn't old. As you've discovered, there are older riders than you still kicking it. Just make sure your bike is setup right. I've been taking joint supplements including fish oil to keep my joints taking too much of a beating. I also dropped well over 27 lbs which helps the knees out a lot.
    yes. I'm going to take that.

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    Mid 40s = Old? Guess I'm done for. Just got a new Scalpel 2 29er. Figured I needed one more bike before I had to switch to a 'tricycle.' 70 in October! Ride every day and a couple of 'races' a year (Whiskey Off Road in Prescott, AZ and Tour of White Mountains in Show Low, AZ). I agree with everyone else...get a proper bike fit.

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    Ok thank you very much.

    I have my right knee examined by the orthopedist and everything is well.

    He just advice me to take some calcium intakes and gave me some pills.

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