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    Will smoking weed make you a slow runner?

    my friend smoked cigarettes every day, at least half a carton a day for 2 years. played lots of sports. he's still good. but i think it depends in how good in shape u are, you will slow down a bit
    weed since they claim makes u hungry, which could make you fat if u r not active.
    and when u become fat ppl become prejudice and stop talking to fat people
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    Well obviously you smoke it because that made no sense.

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    Not only will every person who smokes weed become a slow runner, but they will also die.

    Eventually.

    Just like everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ricky2020
    my friend smoked cigarettes every day, at least half a carton a day for 2 years.
    Five packs a day?

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    Ricky , this is your Probation Officer , I need you to come in and see me A.S.A.P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mae7
    Well obviously you smoke it because that made no sense.
    LOL on top of the other threads he posted = WTF?!?!

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    Smoking weed and running?
    Do you realize that this is a beer forum on a mountain biking website?
    Go troll somewhere else.

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    Five packs a day?
    If he sleeps for 6 hours a day

    Thats 5 and a half cigarettes an hour

    Roughly one every 10 mins.


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    I'm a balding middle-aged white guy, less than two years away from my AARP membership. I cannot remember the last time a doper was able to out-run me.

    I should probably Tase more of the ones that try, but it's pretty freekin' funny to just pace them and let them run themselves out until they collapse, gasping for air and puking on the pavement.

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    It does apparently make people stupid. This is the beer forum...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    I'm a balding middle-aged white guy, less than two years away from my AARP membership. I cannot remember the last time a doper was able to out-run me.

    I should probably Tase more of the ones that try, but it's pretty freekin' funny to just pace them and let them run themselves out until they collapse, gasping for air and puking on the pavement.
    "doper"?
    You are an ASS - you really "should probably Tase more of the ones that try"???

    BTW, let's see you keep up in a swimming pool w/ Michael Phelps or on the slopes w/ Ross Rebagliati or on the gridiron w/ Randy Moss...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    It does apparently make people stupid. This is the beer forum...
    Alcohol kills brain cells genius
    Pot does not.

    It's great that we have a forum dedicated to a CNS depressant, but posting about weed* on it does not make one stupid. (*Not a CNS depressant BTW)

    If you want to talk about posting in the "wrong" forum - go over to 29er; where people ask what bars, saddle, pedals, etc are best...
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    I'm a balding middle-aged white guy, less than two years away from my AARP membership. I cannot remember the last time a doper was able to out-run me.

    I should probably Tase more of the ones that try, but it's pretty freekin' funny to just pace them and let them run themselves out until they collapse, gasping for air and puking on the pavement.
    I'm sure you've never been able to compete against Michael Phelps, but he is both a "doper" and the fastest motherf@cker in the world. And before you accuse me of being too stoned to post MTB related content, you already responded about your own running potential which is unrelated to both beer and MTB.

    *edit- sorry highdell I didn't see your nod to Phelps.
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    Don't forget Lance , one fast MFer that may be a doper .

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    Apparently, hiding from the real world through the lifetime pursuit of the intellectual vacuum of academia doesn't help (Dell) either.

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    ...and speaking of the intellectual vacuum of academia, I just got a conviction on a 20-something year old druggie who was using his position as a school teacher to "coach" young people on how to fake invisible "ailments" that would qualify them for a medicinal marijuana card.

    His drug conviction is going to cost him his career as a teacher, we're going to get his medicinal marijuana card revoked, and if we can catch him with dope again before his probation runs out, it will be a different kind of fattie that he'll be "smoking" while he's in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    Apparently, hiding from the real world through the lifetime pursuit of the intellectual vacuum of academia doesn't help (Dell) either.
    HEY DON"T YOU MAKE FUN OF DOPERS! They're gonna organize and come get you! Nahh f*ck it that would take too much effort and strangely they don't seem to have alot of motivation. (Besides for internet b*tching)

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    Just run to Taco Bell instead of driving (which you shouldn't do high anyway) and you'll stay fit!

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    Let's not be too hard on Dell. He has suffered a great deal of emotional traume, as a result of some life issues that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy. I may make a little sport of him at times, but in all seriousness, I have a great deal of compassion for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    ...and speaking of the intellectual vacuum of academia, I just got a conviction on a 20-something year old druggie who was using his position as a school teacher to "coach" young people on how to fake invisible "ailments" that would qualify them for a medicinal marijuana card.

    His drug conviction is going to cost him his career as a teacher, we're going to get his medicinal marijuana card revoked, and if we can catch him with dope again before his probation runs out, it will be a different kind of fattie that he'll be "smoking" while he's in jail.
    Pat yourself on the back Kirk P, another "offense" in the bag. You are very important - you've ruined another life for a retarded, minor offense. Meanwhile you can drink your fukking Abyss piss with a smug smile on your face I know you're an idiot, but most others know that the 'war on drugs' is a pathetic waste of money. Unfortunately, the Reeps still cling to the misguided prose of Nancy Reagan. States are bankrupting themselves on this useless pursuit, housing so called criminals who have done nothing more than lit a dried plant on fire and inhaled it, whilst pedophiles, rapists, and wife beaters get 5 to 10, out on parole in 2 for their offenses, Nice work champ!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wbmason55
    Pat yourself on the back Kirk P, another "offense" in the bag. You are very important - you've ruined another life for a retarded, minor offense. Meanwhile you can drink your fukking Abyss piss with a smug smile on your face I know you're an idiot, but most others know that the 'war on drugs' is a pathetic waste of money. Unfortunately, the Reeps still cling to the misguided prose of Nancy Reagan. States are bankrupting themselves on this useless pursuit, housing so called criminals who have done nothing more than lit a dried plant on fire and inhaled it, whilst pedophiles, rapists, and wife beaters get 5 to 10, out on parole in 2 for their offenses, Nice work champ!!!!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    Alcohol kills brain cells genius
    Pot does not.I
    Actually, drinking alcohol does not kill brain cells either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    Apparently, hiding from the real world through the lifetime pursuit of the intellectual vacuum of academia doesn't help (Dell) either.
    WTF is that supposed to mean?
    I'm hiding from the real world?
    It's taking quite a while AFTER serving my country and 'topping out' pay-wise in the previous art 'career' to get my Masters degree whilst barely scraping by and after recovering from being homeless (3.68 GPA BTW) - so fukkin what if it's a "lifetime" - Sure, I'd like do be done with it, raking in all kinds of cash with my pretty little drawings and ready to retire...
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canaan
    Actually, drinking alcohol does not kill brain cells either.
    drinking "enough" sure does - it kills ALL of them
    and yes, it does too "kill" - more so, damage, brain cells - it is a poison - this is besides the point however.
    In fact, I'm killing some right now with some SNPA
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    drinking "enough" sure does - it kills ALL of them
    and yes, it does too kill brain cells - it is a poison
    No, you're wrong; it doesn't. But that piece of news should make everyone on this thread happy. Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    FWIW - I have never smoked a drag of gang in my life. ..I like beer, but feel fo my brothras

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canaan
    No, you're wrong; it doesn't. But that piece of news should make everyone on this thread happy. Cheers.
    At what part am I wrong? -
    Yes, I said "alcohol kills brain cell genius" to a someone who makes blanket statements all the time in regards to MJ smokers and was saying someone was stupid for posting in a beer forum.
    My (overblown) point is/was that MJ is FAAAR less detrimental to your health than even beer(alcohol) and that it surely can make one 'stupider'.

    Also, the "quote" you quoted was not the one I amended - likely, it was from the e-mail notification that you received.
    I know the effects of all kinds of substances on your body - and the last thing I want to do is spread misinformation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    ...and speaking of the intellectual vacuum of academia, I just got a conviction on a 20-something year old druggie who was using his position as a school teacher to "coach" young people on how to fake invisible "ailments" that would qualify them for a medicinal marijuana card.

    His drug conviction is going to cost him his career as a teacher, we're going to get his medicinal marijuana card revoked, and if we can catch him with dope again before his probation runs out, it will be a different kind of fattie that he'll be "smoking" while he's in jail.

    and for doing that, you're truley making the world a better place
    i feel safer already, knowing this criminal is not going to be teaching people (college kids i assume) how to fake the state gov't into letting them have what is their god-given right to have anyway.

    i smoke, cigs and weed (i've mostly quit the cigs) and i guarantee that i can outrun most of the academic high & mighty types. and i'm educated, too. imagine that, a pot-head with a degree.

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    You guys are totally harshing my mellow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by istandalone
    ... a pot-head with a degree.
    I thought I was the first - you too!!?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    DUUUUDDE. lol.

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    Reminds me of ...............................
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    At what part am I wrong? -
    Yes, I said "alcohol kills brain cell genius"
    At the part where you say "alcohol kills brain cells," because it does not. I could "Let Me Google That For You," but if you really wanted to see whether you are correct you would have Googled it yourself by now. I'm not anti-weed or anything -- I just don't think you need to use incorrect information to support your position.

    And actually moderate drinkers tend to have better health and live longer than those who are either abstainers or heavy drinkers. In addition to having fewer heart attacks and strokes, moderate consumers of alcoholic beverages (beer, wine and distilled spirits or liquor) are generally less likely to suffer strokes, diabetes, arthritis, enlarged prostate, dementia (including Alzheimer's disease), and several major cancers. A moderate drinker is defined as someone who consumes 1-2 alcoholic beverages a day.

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    studies also show that THC shrinks cancer cells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canaan
    At the part where you say "alcohol kills brain cells," because it does not. I could "Let Me Google That For You," but if you really wanted to see whether you are correct you would have Googled it yourself by now. I'm not anti-weed or anything -- I just don't think you need to use incorrect information to support your position.
    And alcohol does in fact kill braincells - (to quote myself) "drinking "enough" sure does"
    do you not read my COMPLETE posts? or are you just cherry picking...

    here even from a skeptical POV site- 'misconceptionjunction'
    http://www.misconceptionjunction.com...ll-brain-cells
    "while brain cells aren’t being killed as the result of drinking excessive amounts of alcohol, the ability for your brain cells to communicate with one another is being inhibited. What’s going on here is that the alcohol ends up damaging dendrites, which are the things at the ends of neurons that conduct electrochemical stimulation from another cell to the cell body in question. "
    now, this is not the only site that says this - but it is a "mythbuster type -

    AGAIN!!! My argument is not about this!
    It was directed to an over-zealous knucklehead who sadly wears a badge and unfortunately carries a gun. and apparently (evidenced in numerous posts) gets a thrill out out of making people suffer physically and mentally under his 'authority' - and how one pot-poster was apparently 'stupid' because he posted in an alcohol sub-form of mountain bikes.

    His $hit is way more out of line my mis-'wording'...
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    And alcohol does in fact kill braincells - (to quote myself) "drinking "enough" sure does"
    do you not read my COMPLETE posts? or are you just cherry picking...

    here even from a skeptical POV site- 'misconceptionjunction'
    http://www.misconceptionjunction.com...ll-brain-cells


    now, this is not the only site that says this - but it is a "mythbuster type -

    AGAIN!!! My argument is not about this!
    It was directed to an over-zealous knucklehead who sadly wears a badge and unfortunately carries a gun. and apparently (evidenced in numerous posts) gets a thrill out out of making people suffer physically and mentally under his 'authority' - and how one pot-poster was apparently 'stupid' because he posted in an alcohol sub-form of mountain bikes.

    His $hit is way more out of line my mis-'wording'...
    Face facts -- you made an incorrect statement and you don't need to be a smart ass when you called on it. Even the quote you included in this post says that alcohol does not kill brain cells. And no I didn't cherry pick your post -- I quoted what was on the board when I responded. You might want ask yourself why is this so freaking important to you. Is weed something you use occasionally, or is it something that gives your life meaning? Congratulations to both of us -- we managed to turn a post on a beer thread into something that is a complete drag to read. I'm out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canaan
    Face facts -- you made an incorrect statement and you don't need to be a smart ass when you called on it. Even the quote you included in this post says that alcohol does not kill brain cells. And no I didn't cherry pick your post -- I quoted what was on the board when I responded. You might want ask yourself why is this so freaking important to you. Is weed something you use occasionally, or is it something that gives your life meaning? Congratulations to both of us -- we managed to turn a post on a beer thread into something that is a complete drag to read. I'm out.
    really? (see below)

    No, "weed" does not give my life meaning - It does help to see thing more clearly though ..but I get perturbed when someone gleefully chases down a 'doper' wanting to Tase them.
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    BTW^^^ Canaan, you responded @ 4:20 - that means you have to smoke a bowl - By law - or else RIS will Tase you - he'd do it either way - might as well kill some brain cells before killing Heart-cells right?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canaan
    Face facts -- you made an incorrect statement and you don't need to be a smart ass when you called on it. Even the quote you included in this post says that alcohol does not kill brain cells. And no I didn't cherry pick your post -- I quoted what was on the board when I responded. You might want ask yourself why is this so freaking important to you. Is weed something you use occasionally, or is it something that gives your life meaning? Congratulations to both of us -- we managed to turn a post on a beer thread into something that is a complete drag to read. I'm out.

    Alcohol doesn't kill brain cells directly, but it does damage dendrites, effectively crippling the NT pathway between neurons. At least until they have time to regenerate.

    And RIS, calm down buddy. If you seriously think that someone who goes to school contributes less to society than a working-class citizen, then you have a pretty screwed up view of how the world works.

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    I don't know about brain cells but I read that weed killed 12 taxi drivers and thier passengers over the weekend in Mexico.

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    Gosh. This thread kills brain cells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumber825
    I don't know about brain cells but I read that weed killed 12 taxi drivers and thier passengers over the weekend in Mexico.
    Must have been that Mexican Death weed.

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    so, does it make you slower or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lumber825
    I don't know about brain cells but I read that weed killed 12 taxi drivers and thier passengers over the weekend in Mexico.
    Due to pot being illegal
    Remember Al Capone et al?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    If you're cool with chronic bronchitis go right ahead. Smoke enough bud and I assure you it will be an issue. No propaganda. I'm speaking from extensive personal experience here. If you do choose to consume a lot of bud cook or vaporize it. That's the only sustainable long term solution. Of course that sends you right past casual smoker to pro stoner status. I do believe that's a solution that doesn't affect athletic performance but it definitely affects motivation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    ...intellectual vacuum of academia...
    B1tch, please.

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    All I know is a little of either of the above (in moderation), won't hurt me any more than the nasty air I breath or all the other crap I have to ingest from the polluted planet we live on! I also know that if I drink a few beers, I don't even try to ride a bike or drive. But if...

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    Quote Originally Posted by playpunk
    Gosh. This thread kills brain cells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde
    If you're cool with chronic bronchitis go right ahead. Smoke enough bud and I assure you it will be an issue. No propaganda. I'm speaking from extensive personal experience here. If you do choose to consume a lot of bud cook or vaporize it. That's the only sustainable long term solution. Of course that sends you right past casual smoker to pro stoner status. I do believe that's a solution that doesn't affect athletic performance but it definitely affects motivation.
    The amount smoked by a casual smoker will not lead to chronic bronchitis - unless one is already predispositioned to get that.
    Also, Vap or cooking does not necessarily = 'Pro-Stoner' - It equals educated consumer in most cases.

    Furthermore, the word/connotation (to me) "stoner" smells the same as "binge-drinker".

    As far as affecting motivation? motivation to do what? Is it positive or negative?
    What is 'definitely' affected?
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    The amount smoked by a casual smoker will not lead to chronic bronchitis - unless one is already predispositioned to get that.
    Also, Vap or cooking does not necessarily = 'Pro-Stoner' - It equals educated consumer in most cases.

    Furthermore, the word/connotation (to me) "stoner" smells the same as "binge-drinker".

    As far as affecting motivation? motivation to do what? Is it positive or negative?
    What is 'definitely' affected?
    Yes it does. It did in me and every other heavy smoker I've ever known. I guess that gray $hit you hock up is normal eh? BS all you want. Ask any credible doctor (or human) and they'll tell you breathing in smoke will cause an inflammation of the bronchi. That would be why you cough.

    Owning hundreds of dollars worth of top end weed consumption equipment or buying the quantity required to cook bud on a practical scale makes you a pro-stoner. Duh.

    I've never had a problem with motivation. I get stoned and go ride. I'm sure there are plenty of people for whom this is the case. I believe people in action sports tend to be fine with it cause their baseline is already so high. However you'd be pretty dense to deny that heavy smokers are not the most productive group in the world. That's kind of why it was an aside in my post. This is very much individual.


    BTW: I'm the proud owner of a volcano.

    EDIT: Also: It is definitely a gateway drug. Not because you get some huge craving for bigger better buzzes. That's BS. It's a function of social factors. It puts you around people and situations where more hefty drugs are appealing and available.

    All this aside I still chill from time to time and am very much for legalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde
    Yes it does. It did in me and every other heavy smoker I've ever known. I guess that gray $hit you hock up is normal eh? BS all you want. Ask any credible doctor (or human) and they'll tell you breathing in smoke will cause an inflammation of the bronchi. That would be why you cough.

    Owning hundreds of dollars worth of top end weed consumption equipment or buying the quantity required to cook bud on a practical scale makes you a pro-stoner. Duh.

    I've never had a problem with motivation. I get stoned and go ride. I'm sure there are plenty of people for whom this is the case. I believe people in action sports tend to be fine with it cause their baseline is already so high. However you'd be pretty dense to deny that heavy smokers are not the most productive group in the world. That's kind of why it was an aside in my post. This is very much individual.


    BTW: I'm the proud owner of a volcano.

    EDIT: Also: It is definitely a gateway drug. Not because you get some huge craving for bigger better buzzes. That's BS. It's a function of social factors. It puts you around people and situations where more hefty drugs are appealing and available.

    All this aside I still chill from time to time and am very much for legalization.
    Read your bold, and then read what I wrote.

    As per your "EDIT", that's your fault - or anyone elses.
    "where heavier drugs are appealing"? - C'mon man
    "function of social factors"? WTF?

    You're either trolling or clueless IMO
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    "Owning hundreds of dollars worth of top end weed consumption equipment or buying the quantity required to cook bud on a practical scale makes you a pro-stoner. Duh."
    This is like saying anyone who brews their own beer/makes their own wine is an alcoholic.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    Read your bold, and then read what I wrote.

    As per your "EDIT", that's your fault - or anyone elses.
    "where heavier drugs are appealing"? - C'mon man
    "function of social factors"? WTF?

    You're either trolling or clueless IMO
    Why don't YOU read my first post you hypocrite? The part where I said "smoke enough and...." You would be the first retard in this conversation to take that detail out of context.

    Yeah: The fvcking "social factor" of spending time around people that deal pot for a living and 9 times out of 10 do considerable quantities of other drugs. There's plenty of other fun stuff out there (once or twice.) Your line is arbitrary.

    Funny how I'm capable of maintaining a position while also articulating opposing views. You seem incapable. The mark of true ignorance IMO. Just because you smoke doesn't mean you have to lie to yourself about the negative factors. Buy a new handlebar and it's going to have plusses and minuses. This is true of anything in life. Marijuana is not the one exception.



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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    This is like saying anyone who brews their own beer/makes their own wine is an alcoholic.

    That's just a huge stretch of a comparison. The two are in no way analogous. The glaring difference is that one is legal. You live in a place (Chico/CA) where it's much less of an issue. You underestimate the logistics of owning a serious piece of equipment or a decent quantity for the majority of Americans.

    You're lit now aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde
    Why don't YOU read my first post you hypocrite? The part where I said "smoke enough and...." You would be the first retard in this conversation to take that detail out of context.

    Yeah: The fvcking "social factor" of spending time around people that deal pot for a living and 9 times out of 10 do considerable quantities of other drugs. There's plenty of other fun stuff out there (once or twice.) Your line is arbitrary.

    Funny how I'm capable of maintaining a position while also articulating opposing views. You seem incapable. The mark of true ignorance IMO. Just because you smoke doesn't mean you have to lie to yourself about the negative factors. Buy a new handlebar and it's going to have plusses and minuses. This is true of anything in life. Marijuana is not the one exception.



    BTW: Sorry for being an a$$. We should vape a bowl sometime. The internet brings out the worst in me.
    FWIW, I wasn't being a hypocrite - I don't know where you get that from
    That would mean I was advocating to do or not do something, and I did the opposite.

    I said, "The amount smoked by a casual smoker will not lead to chronic bronchitis - unless one is already predispositioned to get that." - that's it!
    I did not say you were a liar, or that your info was bad...I just said what I said.
    You made no mention of "Heavy smoking" did you?

    Oh, and calling me a retard...swell, fine, great etc..

    Yeah, I grew up in TC (Trinity County) and spent times where hundreds of pounds were being negotiated - Never were there other things involved sans some shrooms or beers...it was business.
    Yeah, I've done just about everything...not cause I was In a room where others were doin something and felt compelled to do it.

    How am I incapable of articulating opposing views? I spend a great deal of my time/life to grasp those and weed out the falsehoods and expose them...
    Many here will know that I am a champion for marijuana and the reform on the war on drugs in principal.

    Sure, I'll smoke (vape) w/ ya
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde
    That's just a huge stretch of a comparison. The two are in no way analogous. The glaring difference is that one is legal. You live in a place (Chico/CA) where it's much less of an issue. You underestimate the logistics of owning a serious piece of equipment or a decent quantity for the majority of Americans.

    You're lit now aren't you?
    No, It's not a huge stretch...and yes they are analogous to the connoisseur.
    I will concede that it's easy to forget how shltty other places in the US have it.
    (And FWIW I'm in Redding now)

    SO far, we've (Cali) been championing the legalization - started with medi - which is foremost THE most important, but also RE-legalization across the board.
    How many states have Medi now?or decrim?

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    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    LOL at you people.

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    glad i don't live in florida!
    Consequences dictate our course of action and it doesn't matter what's right. It's only wrong if you get caught.

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    What's the Difference Between a Drunk and a Stoner?

    The drunk blows right through the stop sign.

    The stoner sits and waits for it to turn green.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    SO far, we've (Cali) been championing the legalization...[/img]
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    Marijuana Legalization Measure Loses in California

    Published November 03, 2010
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    LOS ANGELES -- California voters weren't high on a ballot measure aimed at legalizing marijuana and appeared to heed warnings of legal chaos and a federal showdown when they defeated the initiative to make the state the first in the nation to allow the recreational use and sale of pot.

    In addition, supporters of Proposition 19 blamed Tuesday's outcome on the conservative leanings of older voters who participate in midterm elections. They acknowledged that young voters had not turned out in sufficient numbers to secure victory but said they were ready to try again in two years.

    "It's still a historic moment in this very long struggle to end decades of failed marijuana prohibition," said Stephen Gutwillig, California director for the Drug Policy Project. "Unquestionably, because of Proposition 19, marijuana legalization initiatives will be on the ballot in a number of states in 2012, and California is in the mix."

    Tim Rosales, who managed the No on 19 campaign, scoffed at that attitude from the losing side.

    "If they think they are going to be back in two years, they must be smoking something," he said. "This is a state that just bucked the national trend and went pretty hard on the Democratic side, but yet in the same vote opposed Prop 19. I think that says volumes as far as where California voters are on this issue."

    With more than two-thirds of precincts reporting, Proposition 19 was losing by nine percentage points.

    The measure received more yes than no votes in just 11 of the state's 58 counties, getting its strongest support in San Francisco and Santa Cruz counties.

    In a sign of what a tough sell it was, an exit poll conducted for The Associated Press showed opposition cutting across gender and racial lines, as well as income and education levels.

    The ballot measure even lost in the state's vaunted marijuana-growing region known as the "Emerald Triangle" of Humboldt, Mendocino and Trinity counties.

    Voters in three other states cast ballots on medical marijuana-related referenda.

    In South Dakota, voters rejected for the second time a measure to legalize marijuana for medical use -- a step taken by California in 1996 and 13 other states since. Oregon voters refused to expand their state's medical marijuana program to create a network of state-licensed nonprofit dispensaries where patients could have purchased the drug.

    A medical marijuana measure on Arizona's ballot was too close to call early Wednesday.

    California's marijuana proposal would have allowed adults 21 and over to possess up to an ounce of pot, consume it in nonpublic places as long as no children were present, and grow it in small private plots.

    It also would have authorized local governments to permit commercial pot cultivation, as well as the sale and use of marijuana at licensed establishments.

    Images of marijuana leaves and smashed-up cars and school buses appeared in dueling ads during the campaign that pitted the state's political and law enforcement establishment against determined activists.

    Proponents pitched it as a sensible, though unprecedented, experiment that would provide tax revenue for the cash-strapped state, dent the drug-related violence in Mexico by causing pot prices to plummet, and reduce marijuana arrests that they say disproportionately target minority youth.

    Popular support was hampered, however, by opposition from some medical marijuana activists, growers and providers, who said they feared the system they have created would be taken over by corporations or lose its purpose.

    In the weeks leading to the election, federal officials said they planned to continue enforcing laws making marijuana possession and sales illegal and were considering suing to overturn the California initiative if voters approved it.

    "Today, Californians recognized that legalizing marijuana will not make our citizens healthier, solve California's budget crisis, or reduce drug related violence in Mexico," White House Drug Policy Director Gil Kerlikowske said.
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...es-california/


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    Oh, it didn't pass this time? I did not know that
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    It's too valueble to certain parties to legalize it! Keep the profits off the books and under the table. Not that I care though!

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    Sorry to get ot...or maybe back on topic ( whoa I just blew my mind). About ten years ago I was your typical teenage stoner, as well as an avid runner, mountainbiker, and workoutaholic. I loved running but found that I had troubles with cramping if I tried to go over 8-10 miles, that is unless I smoked a bowl or two before hand. I always found it easier to work through pain if I was stoned, same went for weight lifting if I was adding more weight or reps to my workout. Just about anything that that required me to focus on one thing and tune everything else out seemed to work a little better when I was stoned. As for mtbing I found that I needed much more focus on my surroundings and never really felt to comfortable w/ being stoned on a trail ride (my first ever MTB ride I was stoned out of my mind and the first thing I rolled up on was a quick steep rocky decent and I knew that be stoned for this was not such a bright idea). I'm now in my late twenty's and my pot smoking days are behind me, partly because I don't care to do it anymore and partly because I have a good job that likes to do random drug testing and I don't care to get laid off in this economy. I still run and workout regularly and I do have times when I think about taking a quick hit before I go out. I guess what I'm trying to say is that while marijuana my not be on your top pick of performance enhancing drugs it never seemed to hinder my performance, but that's just me and I was stoned when all this happened so I probably just imagined it all anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ricky2020
    my friend smoked cigarettes every day, at least half a carton a day for 2 years. played lots of sports. he's still good. but i think it depends in how good in shape u are, you will slow down a bit
    weed since they claim makes u hungry, which could make you fat if u r not active.
    and when u become fat ppl become prejudice and stop talking to fat people
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    smoking then running = slow runner

    Running but you enjoy a nice smoke but your running sober= normal runner


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