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    Quote Originally Posted by stepitup_onenotch View Post
    You have got to be kidding.
    Not in the slightest. I am just not a fan of hysterical exaggerations not based in fact.

    Quote Originally Posted by stepitup_onenotch View Post
    You think the US is not in trouble. The highest unemployment rate ever, there are cities of tents growing everywhere. Free education is disappearing faster than a speeding bullet and there has never been real healthcare. The streets of all major cities have armies of street people pushing shopping carts around. And you want to hold this all up as a shining example of the 21st century.
    I figure you have not been around the world much, or just do not remember how it was aorund here not too log ago.

    For crying out loud, US had well established racism just not so long ago.

    No real healthcare? Seriously?

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    Nobody is suggesting that Wal Mart should give up its fortune just that they treat their work force like humans and get them off the poverty line and off social services.
    How? What exactly you are proposing? Give everybody a raise? How much? Where would that money come from? We have already established that owners giving up all of their wealth would not account for much - then where from? It will only can come from the pockets of customers. How is that a great thing?

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    If it wasn't for Walmart where would all my burnt out pot smoking buddies from the 70s work?
    They're so fried they can barely stock shelves properly.
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    Reading through these wall mart threads an outsider gets the impression that some think they are the cause of every evil and problem with your society, they sound like the spawn of satan, like an evil brainwashing cult....
    It looks to me that if you got rid of wall mart every problem you have would disappear over night and everything would be all rosie, who knows even the wether might change and all the poor people might find homes and work.......
    Sounds to me like Wall mart is the root of every evil past and present in the states, maybe they were responsible for 9/11, has anybody ever thought of that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Reading through these wall mart threads an outsider gets the impression that some think they are the cause of every evil and problem with your society, they sound like the spawn of satan, like an evil brainwashing cult....
    It looks to me that if you got rid of wall mart every problem you have would disappear over night and everything would be all rosie, who knows even the wether might change and all the poor people might find homes and work.......
    Sounds to me like Wall mart is the root of every evil past and present in the states, maybe they were responsible for 9/11, has anybody ever thought of that?
    Walmart was certainly the cause of 9/11, don't you watch Jerry springer?

    Definitely agree though. Everyone makes Walmart out as the spawn of satan. Don't get me wrong, they are far from the best company to buy from but they're here to stay and everyone that doesn't buy from them doesn't even make a dent. Ever seen that place around holidays? Ridiculous! Try going for a gallon of milk and wait in line for an hour.
    I'm all for helping everyone I can. Especially those who work at Walmart. I actually have a few friends that work there and they are making fair money considering theyre going through school.
    As far as them not taking care of their employees like some mention, if its true and so bad it isn't the only job out there. There are plenty like it out there. Grocery stores, auto parts stores, restaurants, other convenience stores,etc.

    Not trying to start an argument, just think the Walmart thing is blamed for too much and everyone knows they aren't going anywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Reading through these wall mart threads an outsider gets the impression that some think they are the cause of every evil and problem with your society, they sound like the spawn of satan, like an evil brainwashing cult....
    It looks to me that if you got rid of wall mart every problem you have would disappear over night and everything would be all rosie, who knows even the wether might change and all the poor people might find homes and work.......
    Sounds to me like Wall mart is the root of every evil past and present in the states, maybe they were responsible for 9/11, has anybody ever thought of that?


    You're right. It's because everyone loves a scapegoat.

    Hence, just about every thread that mentions Wal-Mart ends up in the condition this thread has taken and is eventually moved to the recycle-bin.

    And to think the OP began the thread pointing out that tubes and tires in size 29"er are available under the Bell label that Wal-Mart sells. Scapegoater stepitup__onenotch then began his propaganda....

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    I have a Bell tube from walmart in one wheel and a specialized tube from a LBS in the other. Although I would say there is no quality difference, I prefer the Bell tube from walmart because the valve doesn't stick out 2" from the rim like the specialized tube.
    I mean seriously, wtf is up with the super long valve on that damn specialized tube.

    BTW, as much as I dislike walmart, like most people I still go there.
    Cheapest place to buy Cliff Bars other than Target and Target is about another 10 min from the house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Alberto_ View Post
    Lol at the Wally World activists.

    Find me a better deal locally on ammo or oil (only things I buy there) and ill consider not going.

    Nobody is holding a gun to their employees heads. If they had better educations and weren't rude as fawk maybe they could work elsewhere. In fact many seem quite happy to be standing around in circles not working or helping customers as they make minimum wage. Yup, guess I should feel sorry for them.

    Until then, your agendas mean nothing to me, save it for a section of the forums that give a crap.

    Stating the obvious wasn't necessary.

    Wal-Mart thrives because the average American cares about nothing but themselves and would trade just about anything to "save" a nickel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffS View Post
    Stating the obvious wasn't necessary.

    Wal-Mart thrives because the average American cares about nothing but themselves and would trade just about anything to "save" a nickel.
    Plus many Americans don't have a clue what quality looks like anymore. Just look at the average fat and tasteless Joe twelve pack on the street. Sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffS View Post
    Wal-Mart thrives because the average American cares about nothing but themselves and would trade just about anything to "save" a nickel.
    It's not unique, by any means, only to Americans. I can vouch for Europeans as well, and plenty of studies have shown it is global.

    What is global....?

    It's actually a global trend (Consumer Relevancy) that started more than two decades ago (I'd even go so far as to say it started in earnest 4 decades ago) to provide technology and a lifestyle at lower price points so that more than just the upper echelon (financially) of society could also "participate".

    In order for a brand to become successful, Keller and Berry suggest, it must be associated with a meaningful product; for example, something that improves the quality of life, that connects to a passion or that contributes to causes or concerns that the opinion leaders care about. Driven by a consumer-first mindset and an appreciation of low prices; innovative, easy-to-use technology; and quality at a reasonable price, the authors’ opinion leaders have given thumbs up to Wal-Mart, Southwest Airlines, Microsoft, Home Depot, Nokia, Charles Schwab, Dell Computer, Starbucks and FedEx.
    Opinion Leaders | Brand Promotion | brandchannel.com

    It's not going away - in spite of all the moaning and groaning on message boards, or in opinion pieces.

    Consumer Relevancy and the idea of "saving a nickle" is global (well, except you need to substitute the local currency equivalent for the word "nickle")...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stepitup_onenotch View Post

    You should be more open minded and care not only about the natural environment but the social environment as well. The USA is the richest country in the world and there is no excuse for any one single american to be hungry or homeless. Wal Mart is part of the problem and not part of the solution and for that there is no excuse.
    The poor in our country are behemouths. Like giant land whales. They shove food into their slobbering pie holes with reckless abandon. They are not hungry.

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    Take it to the econ forum.
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    nothing wrong with walmart, shop where you want. I'd rather go there then support labor cartels.

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    Love Walmart.

    The so called Socially Feeling anti-Walmart people are as always shining examples of left leaning hypocrisy.

    The majority of Walmart shoppers are people with incomes at or below $50,000 a year; with a huge majority coming from the impoverished income levels ($12 - $22000). SOOO what we know is this: Walmart brings affordable products to people who otherwise would never own a HD TV, a computer, or even enough dinner wear to have a house party.

    So Walmart offers people of little means the ability to buy things of need and of leisure. Things that without the Walmarts of the world would be out of their reach financially. So tell me again how Walmart screws the poor of our society?

    Oh and I love people who chime on and on about how much money the Wally family has. They saw a need in society (for cheap affordable goods) and filled it. Therefore becoming rich. They earned their money in an open market. Thats how America works. If you want to take it away its because your jealous. Come up with your own idea and make your own millions, then you wont worry so much about other peoples money.

    You can tell people that raising taxes on rates on the top 2% of income earners will only feed the US Government for 9 days...but those people dont want to hear the truth anyways....
    People ask me all the time "who beat you up"? I tell them "a tree". They just look at me funny....

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    Most of you have not read the thread, Wal Mart is just an example of what ails society. You have to be a mental genius to not see the obvious cracks in todays society.

    The USA is not really a democracy. You get to have a vote but there is no real participation in the decisions of government. There is only one party and its called the Business Party. It has two factions called democrats and republicans. There are some slight differences between the two factions but the variations are minor.

    For example, every major poll taken in america shows that given the choice between tax dollars spent on social services, things like health care and education or tax dollars spent on the military, the overwhelming majority of people choose social services, its not even close. The US spends more on military than the rest of the world combined. Defense gets the overwhelming lions share of the tax dollars even though its not what people want. Tax dollars are supporting private companies like Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon. None of these companies can function without public funding.

    The US has spent an estimated $21 trillion dollars on the Military since WW2. Spending on education and healthcare doesn't even register next to that. How does a government get away with doing the exact opposite of what the majority of people want? Propaganda, only we're not allowed to use that word anymore, its all public relations and marketing.

    Here is an example of how it works. In Feb 2003 General Powell then Secretary of State made his speech to the UN pressing for an invasion of Iraq. At that point in time public opinion polls showed about a 50/50 split of americans in favour or not. In the two weeks around that speech the group FAIR (fairness and accuracy in reporting) measured 393 interviews conducted on the news programs of ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS, of all these interviews only 3 were conducted with anti-war leaders. A functioning democracy presents all sides and doesn't beat the drums of war by manufacturing consent. And this manufacture of consent prevails in America, look at this thread, someone wrote about the failed experiments of socialism, what exactly were you talking about? Left leaning hypocracy? what does that mean and what hypocracies are you talking about? You are all just repeating some banal rhetoric from some snr economic advisor as he tells you you have to tighten your belt because some unsecured credit holder of Goldman Sachs needs money.

    MIT professor Noam Chomsky writes:
    A well functioning propaganda system is barely noticeable, almost by osmosis it induces amongst its citizens an inability to deconstruct arguments and to think critically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stepitup_onenotch View Post
    Most of you have not read the thread, Wal Mart is just an example of what ails society. You have to be a mental genius to not see the obvious cracks in todays society.

    The USA is not really a democracy. You get to have a vote but there is no real participation in the decisions of government. There is only one party and its called the Business Party. It has two factions called democrats and republicans. There are some slight differences between the two factions but the variations are minor.

    For example, every major poll taken in america shows that given the choice between tax dollars spent on social services, things like health care and education or tax dollars spent on the military, the overwhelming majority of people choose social services, its not even close. The US spends more on military than the rest of the world combined. Defense gets the overwhelming lions share of the tax dollars even though its not what people want. Tax dollars are supporting private companies like Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon. None of these companies can function without public funding.

    The US has spent an estimated $21 trillion dollars on the Military since WW2. Spending on education and healthcare doesn't even register next to that. How does a government get away with doing the exact opposite of what the majority of people want? Propaganda, only we're not allowed to use that word anymore, its all public relations and marketing.

    Here is an example of how it works. In Feb 2003 General Powell then Secretary of State made his speech to the UN pressing for an invasion of Iraq. At that point in time public opinion polls showed about a 50/50 split of americans in favour or not. In the two weeks around that speech the group FAIR (fairness and accuracy in reporting) measured 393 interviews conducted on the news programs of ABC, NBC, CBS and PBS, of all these interviews only 3 were conducted with anti-war leaders. A functioning democracy presents all sides and doesn't beat the drums of war by manufacturing consent. And this manufacture of consent prevails in America, look at this thread, someone wrote about the failed experiments of socialism, what exactly were you talking about? Left leaning hypocracy? what does that mean and what hypocracies are you talking about? You are all just repeating some banal rhetoric from some snr economic advisor as he tells you you have to tighten your belt because some unsecured credit holder of Goldman Sachs needs money.

    MIT professor Noam Chomsky writes:
    A well functioning propaganda system is barely noticeable, almost by osmosis it induces amongst its citizens an inability to deconstruct arguments and to think critically.

    Bob Marley advised: Emancipate yourself from mental slavery


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    Quote Originally Posted by stepitup_onenotch View Post
    Bob Marley advises: Emancipate yourself from mental slavery
    Interesting you quote Bob. Weren't his last words something like "Money can't buy life."?

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    Back to the original topic.

    I wonder how many walmart customers would overlook these because they assume a folded tire is inferior. Your average consumer is used to seeing tires as round objects hanging on a hook.

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    Anybody ever wonder why Target never causes the same reaction as Walmart? I guess they're not evil or perhaps the fact that they give a lot of money away to charity inoculates them from criticism? Target also looks less like K-Mart, which is a big plus for some; well-off people love Target, but always hate Walmart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Anybody ever wonder why Target never causes the same reaction as Walmart? I guess they're not evil or perhaps the fact that they give a lot of money away to charity inoculates them from criticism? Target also looks less like K-Mart, which is a big plus for some; well-off people love Target, but always hate Walmart.
    100% agree.

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    I don't shop at Walmart often. There isn't one in my home town. If there was, I prolly would shop there. Not because I can't afford somewhere else but because, I can get my basic sundry items far cheaper than other places. It makes no difference to me if I buy my toilet paper from Walmart or from Albersons or from Target or from any other large corporation. I'm gonna buy where its cheaper. Wallmart fills a need. Period. Are the employees crappy? Yes. And those employees get paid what they are worth. If Walmart wanted to pay their employees more they would attract better qualified employees. But that would drive up the costs of the goods that they sell. The employees there are not forced to work there. They are not indentured servants. If they want to find a higher paying job then they can go out and get educated/trained so they can do that. I find it laughable that today we find that we are above working at a low paying job or if we do have a low paying job we half ass it. That is what's truly wrong with this country. Back when my Great Grandfather immigrated he would have worked at what ever he could find. He would have called it opportunity. Sam Walton built a company to fill a need. He made an a lot of money doing so. Whether you want to admit it or not, Walmart brings jobs, and tax revenue into every city it enters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pattongb View Post
    Love Walmart.

    The so called Socially Feeling anti-Walmart people are as always shining examples of left leaning hypocrisy.

    The majority of Walmart shoppers are people with incomes at or below $50,000 a year; with a huge majority coming from the impoverished income levels ($12 - $22000). SOOO what we know is this: Walmart brings affordable products to people who otherwise would never own a HD TV, a computer, or even enough dinner wear to have a house party.

    So Walmart offers people of little means the ability to buy things of need and of leisure. Things that without the Walmarts of the world would be out of their reach financially. So tell me again how Walmart screws the poor of our society?


    Not this tired argument again.

    Rewind for a second and ask yourself. Do you care about these people? My contention is that you don't really, and therefore any argument in their defense is a false one.

    Either way, let's go back for a second and analyze this. HD TV, computer, dinner wear? These are considered necessary purchases now? If you'd said rice, or beans I'd have been with you. You, however, like most to use this argument have chosen to defend not the necessities of life, but the irrelevancies of capitalism.

    I understand though. As Americans, we have come to believe that a good life is dependent on a full shopping cart. When faced with a person with less money, the suggestion is to buy cheaper stuff; never to stop buying, buy less, buy better quality items that will last, etc. It's always about buying more, and new.

    Back to my point though. Stop trying to defend walmart by invoking people whom you are not qualified to speak for. At least your first sentence was genuine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Anybody ever wonder why Target never causes the same reaction as Walmart? I guess they're not evil or perhaps the fact that they give a lot of money away to charity inoculates them from criticism? Target also looks less like K-Mart, which is a big plus for some; well-off people love Target, but always hate Walmart.

    When you're talking about oil spills, do you mention deepwater horizon, or the guy who dumped a quart of oil down the stormdrain?

    It's unfortunate that you wondered about it enough to create a post, yet this is the best you could come up with. I'm sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eb1888 View Post
    26x2.1-2.5 tubes work fine in my 29 RaRas, so save a little too. The Performance Racing Ralphs are about 35 at Cycleclub and they weigh quite a bit less than these, so a spare isn't a bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SS Hack View Post
    Anybody ever wonder why Target never causes the same reaction as Walmart? I guess they're not evil or perhaps the fact that they give a lot of money away to charity inoculates them from criticism? Target also looks less like K-Mart, which is a big plus for some; well-off people love Target, but always hate Walmart.
    I'm pretty well off and could care less really what these companies do politically (unless they're killing puppies and children, and I don't think any of them are doing that).

    The one reason I choose Target over the others is that they carry better products. That's really it.

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