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    Seriously?-031.jpgIn October I would have been ecstatic for this, now not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sryanak View Post
    In October I would have been ecstatic for this, now not so much.
    It's that pesky Global Warming....


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    Re: Seriously?

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    It's that pesky Global Warming....


    Ugh...

    Really?

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    Actually, counter to what one might think, it could be.

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    Oh yeah when it's hot it's global warming. When it's cold it's climate change. Didn't you know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenfin View Post
    Oh yeah when it's hot it's global warming. When it's cold it's climate change. Didn't you know?
    Sometimes the probability of a cold spell is due to global warming. I could explain how that could be if you would like.

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    Oops! I didn't mean to start a debate on climate change.

    Unfortunately there's no smiley for tongue in cheek....

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    Wink, wink?

    Quote Originally Posted by Velobike View Post
    Oops! I didn't mean to start a debate on climate change.

    Unfortunately there's no smiley for tongue in cheek....

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    One of the benefits of global warming is tremendous fluctuations in world-wide weather. This will help increase fat bike sales.

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    syranak.....Alaska?

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    Yup, that is here in the Anchorage area.


    My wife is breaking down and booking tickets to Maui right now.

    Temperature is supposed to be as low as 20 degrees Fahrenheit overnight. Maybe some good crust riding in the early morn?

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    The past few winters I've had a blast, but for some reason towards the end I couldn't wait for spring. By march (I live in New York state) I was done with the snowboarding and fatbiking thing and dusting off the skinny bikes. I feel your pain.

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    Nooo!! Global warming is awesome!! When the next ice age hits, all of us fatbikers will be the only ones ready!
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    I like how in one breath, the earth is billions of years old and in the next breath, the climate is drastically changing in the last fifty years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alphazz View Post
    I like how in one breath, the earth is billions of years old and in the next breath, the climate is drastically changing in the last fifty years.

    It's to be expected when the CO2 levels are pumped up by 42% in two hundred years like we have done. CO2 is a greenhouse gas.


    But it doesn't look like it's going to help sryanak soon enough


    Fat biking in Maui sounds pretty good though. I have now stopped feeling sorry for him.

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    Sure!!!!!!!! ice on the lakes longer than ever! not a question about it here!!! Global warming??

    Sea Level's rising 20 feet in the next 100 years???? Not possible, yet the anthropomorphic-apologist, global weirding crowd continue to state this.

    I live in an area (SouthCenctral Alaska) that is glaciated more than most of the earth. I fly airplanes and am unable to believe that all of this ice I see added to the earths waters, along with Greenland's ice, Iceland's ice, and Antarctica's ice, Russia and Canada's ice........ could raise waters even inches, yet the global warming advocates state we should fear 20 feet of rise worldwide. Look at a Globe, look at the ice, THINK! Their postulations DO NOT Make SENSE.

    Speaking of Iceland and Greenland......in the 1300's, when all those beautiful castles and cathedrals were constructed in Europe......the climate was considerably warmer than today.....and there were foodstuff-producing colonies on some of the North Sea islands, including Iceland. The prosperity of Eurpoean individuals as a result of this warmer climate allowed the construction and development of the region.

    Again, it was WARMER then than now.

    Also, remember those e-mails from "climate change" scientists that were leaked a few years back???? The ones where they were discussing how far to go when embellishing the data????? They are willing to lie to make you believe their "science". I hate a LIAR!

    Yikes....this is a rant from me.

    I could say aLOT more!

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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post
    Their postulations DO NOT Make SENSE.
    To someone without a PHD in a related field? - I'm not shocked. I also wouldn't let a climate scientist fly a plane I was a passenger in.
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    Seriously? This was supposed to be a funny thread. Some of you guys need to go ride your bikes!
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    Quiet Sryanak! I value the opinions of bicycle message board users more than the 97% of scientists who acknowledge that man made climate change is real and want to hear more opinions on this matter!

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    There is no room for funny business in the fatty forum come on.....

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    I reckon all this disputation is caused by Global Warming overheating our brains...


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    Seriously?

    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post

    Also, remember those e-mails from "climate change" scientists that were leaked a few years back???? The ones where they were discussing how far to go when embellishing the data????? They are willing to lie to make you believe their "science". I hate a LIAR!

    Yikes....this is a rant from me.

    I could say aLOT more!
    And almost as bad as a liar, is someone that believes the lies.

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    Anecdotal evidence of what is happening in your corner of the world is irrelevant in the overall scheme of global science. If we come to a consensus and decide to do something about human caused CO2 output, what will be the worst thing that happens?

    I for one, enjoy and kinda crave clean air to breathe, but I'm selfish like that.
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    Sometime back in the 30's, it snowed on the 4th of July in the state of Wash., the report came from the towns of Randle and Eatonville.

    Some 50 years ago, didn't Johnny Horton sing a song that went...When it's springtime in Alaska it's 40 below.

    Seriously, there is nothing new under the sun, it has all came and gone before.

    Just think, someday there will again be palm trees in Alaska, no more trips to Hawaii to escape the cold.

    Bring it on...just don't try to tell me its my fault, tax me because of it, or say that there are no upsides to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post


    Yikes....this is a rant from me.

    I could say aLOT more!
    Well, we got NO precipitation during November and December in Southcentral AK, it was very cold, and no snow to insulate the ground was causing some serious problems. It's sad when the ski resorts in alaska have to resort to snowmaking...as they did. Then we got plenty of rain and snow in the next few months, but November and December were very odd.

    I think the overall temp issue is the time span, not that it's just higher than some other point or that the earth has never been this hot.
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    I remember one of my better science teachers in grade school... "Remember, weather doesn't suck. It blows."

    Much like this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post
    Sure!!!!!!!! ice on the lakes longer than ever! not a question about it here!!! Global warming??

    Sea Level's rising 20 feet in the next 100 years???? Not possible, yet the anthropomorphic-apologist, global weirding crowd continue to state this.

    I live in an area (SouthCenctral Alaska) that is glaciated more than most of the earth. I fly airplanes and am unable to believe that all of this ice I see added to the earths waters, along with Greenland's ice, Iceland's ice, and Antarctica's ice, Russia and Canada's ice........ could raise waters even inches, yet the global warming advocates state we should fear 20 feet of rise worldwide. Look at a Globe, look at the ice, THINK! Their postulations DO NOT Make SENSE.

    Speaking of Iceland and Greenland......in the 1300's, when all those beautiful castles and cathedrals were constructed in Europe......the climate was considerably warmer than today.....and there were foodstuff-producing colonies on some of the North Sea islands, including Iceland. The prosperity of Eurpoean individuals as a result of this warmer climate allowed the construction and development of the region.

    Again, it was WARMER then than now.

    Also, remember those e-mails from "climate change" scientists that were leaked a few years back???? The ones where they were discussing how far to go when embellishing the data????? They are willing to lie to make you believe their "science". I hate a LIAR!

    Yikes....this is a rant from me.

    I could say aLOT more!
    Three to six feet is the prediction, and it's not just from ice melting, it's also from the ocean waters expanding as they get warmer.

    There are many temperature proxies like tree rings and ice cores and thousands of thermometers that show the same thing. We are now at thousand year highs and the recent temp rise is unprecedented. Looking at one's local weather is no way to gauge small, long-term changes in global average temps.

    Fact is the CO2 levels in the atmosphere have gone up 40% in the last 200 years due to man. CO2 is a greenhouse gas. How could that NOT cause warming? It's a very simple concept ........that the fossil fuel industry wants to keep us confused about. Virtually all the world's climate scientists, and all it's science organizations are in agreement. The basics of the science is settled. The politics? Not so much.

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    stop factory farming and it will end many worldly problems.

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    I guess I could never understand how this all works.

    Thank you to those who have reminded me that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas.

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    Re: Seriously?

    Nice job Velobike.

    Shut up, everyone. There is plenty of information out there should you be interested. You're not going to convince angry, science denying codgers of anything over an internet forum. If thousands of scientists, studies, and papers aren't going to convince them, you're not going to either.

    Just take it to the off topic section, will ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sand Rat View Post
    Sometime back in the 30's, it snowed on the 4th of July in the state of Wash., the report came from the towns of Randle and Eatonville.

    Some 50 years ago, didn't Johnny Horton sing a song that went...When it's springtime in Alaska it's 40 below.

    Seriously, there is nothing new under the sun, it has all came and gone before.

    Just think, someday there will again be palm trees in Alaska, no more trips to Hawaii to escape the cold.

    Bring it on...just don't try to tell me its my fault, tax me because of it, or say that there are no upsides to it.
    Johnny Horton weighs in on global warming. Can we all agree to make this the final word on this subject? I mean, who can argue with that?
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    Give the first 5 minutes of this documentary your open mind please. Think, please.

    The great global warming swindle - Full version - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post
    Give the first 5 minutes of this documentary your open mind please. Think, please.

    The great global warming swindle - Full version - YouTube

    Thank you for bringing to light a great example of the kind of fraudulent misrepresentation of the science by the fossil fuel funded denier apparatus that has made serious discussion of the issue difficult.

    Anyone who has any interest in this issue at all, and that should be everyone, owes it to themselves to watch this video.



    The Great Global Warming Swindle Documentary Debunked | Watch Now

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    Quote Originally Posted by beachride View Post
    Thank you for bringing to light a great example of the kind of fraudulent misrepresentation of the science by the fossil fuel funded denier apparatus that has made serious discussion of the issue difficult.

    Anyone who has any interest in this issue at all, and that should be everyone, owes it to themselves to watch this video.



    The Great Global Warming Swindle Documentary Debunked | Watch Now
    Thanks for posting that.

    More bad news for the deniers.

    Survey finds 97% climate science papers agree warming is man-made | Dana Nuccitelli | Environment | guardian.co.uk

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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    so you can bin this now mods




    Pretty please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ultraspontane View Post
    Nice job Velobike.....
    Yup, sorry, unintended consequences of a bit of irony.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MiniTrail View Post
    Both sides have had their say so you can bin this now mods
    Why don't you go back to your much more important issue like Nascar '13, instead of wasting time on a trivial issue like the Earth's atmosphere.

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    gawddamn ppl need to just live how they think they should and not give a flying fuk what others are doing. live to the best you can and they will follow. now on with the bike talk. bunch of beeotches on here playing "he said, she said." beeotchride wears too tight of a panty

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    ^^^ I think you should switch to decaf.

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    Yup...nothing to see here folks...just people trying to stay sane in an upside down world...

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    it's not the coffee i only drink that in the morning. its the cocaine at night buddy

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    Fatbikes becoming more mainstream is lending to the dilution/pollution of the best forum on MTBR. Just a thought.

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    lol the title has become the discussion. climate "seriously"

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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post
    I could say aLOT more!
    What you really need to do is not say a lot more. You need to learn a lot more. Start here: theoildrum.com You have a long, long way to go before you reach the gates of Clueland.

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    My apologies for writing what sounded like a rave as a reaction to "Beachride"'s inclusion of global warming into this thread about a late winter storm in Alaska.

    I had hoped to present a countering view. Please do not think that I am so egocentric or uninformed to think that cooling in my locale is the only event in sight.

    I had hoped that some persons might take the first 5 minutes of that documentary and consider the possibility of conspiracy.

    It seems a discussion devoid of name calling is unlikely. It seems that others' minds are set already. It seems that others' are unwilling to allow the holder of a countering view some modicum of intelligence or common sense.

    I will bow out of this dialogue.

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    Is anyone here old enough to remember in school when they told us that pollution in the atmosphere was causing it to cool and we were going to have another ice age. How about the hole in the ozone. Then global warming, now its climate change. All from the same people that live by the publish or perish standard. Man has known that the world is a changing place from the dawn of time. Yes the human race has had an effect on the earth and we should do as much as we can to protect it. But we still need to live here and boy do I like to burn that fossil fuel to heat my house, to go places in a very short time and to make all though thing that make my life easier. I am a consumer of goods as we all are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by exp18 View Post
    Is anyone here old enough to remember in school when they told us that pollution in the atmosphere was causing it to cool and we were going to have another ice age....
    Me. We were also told it would get warmer if we got rid of the pall of smog that hung over most British cities in those days. Now it's gone.
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    If we're going to pervert this thread into a global warming debate...



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    Lol. Only one who would try to sell a car in their sig. Lol

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    Forget global warming, you guys have bigger issues going on there. That snow is blue for gods sake!!!

    Whatever floats your bike, dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by E6roller View Post
    My apologies for writing what sounded like a rave as a reaction to "Beachride"'s inclusion of global warming into this thread about a late winter storm in Alaska.

    I had hoped to present a countering view. Please do not think that I am so egocentric or uninformed to think that cooling in my locale is the only event in sight.

    I had hoped that some persons might take the first 5 minutes of that documentary and consider the possibility of conspiracy.

    It seems a discussion devoid of name calling is unlikely. It seems that others' minds are set already. It seems that others' are unwilling to allow the holder of a countering view some modicum of intelligence or common sense.

    I will bow out of this dialogue.
    There is a conspiracy....to sow doubt about GW. There are very powerful interests who do not want to see us move away from fossil fuels.

    For there to be a pro GW conspiracy it must a big one that involves 97% of all the world's climate scientists and all of it's science organizations and literally thousands of scientists and all of their data of which there is a huge amount from various sources and of various types. It's just not credible.

    But simple common sense tells one that if an important greenhouse gas like CO2 goes by up 40% then temps will also. It is actually a pretty simple logical thing.
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