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    Anyone on here who has done any sport at a high level .. where you put your heart and soul into it. Know that you will have races where this happens.

    Though most here don't realize how much more intense it is over there. Jouko and Oggie will know of what I speak of. The rider will have a huge group that support him and he will feel like he let them down huge. This isn't like our nationals where other then family and fellow racers watching and a few doing so simply out of idle curiosity. This race will have pretty much the entire country track side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Jouko and Oggie will know of what I speak of.
    I head that when Jouko tried to smash the trail to pieces with his clavicle, the ground cried like a baby. Both times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
    I head that when Jouko tried to smash the trail to pieces with his clavicle, the ground cried like a baby. Both times.

    When Oggie loses, everyone cries, and not out of sympathy.

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    if this was the difference between a career and a living and nothing, i'd be pretty pissed. the closer the loss, the harder it hurts. i don't know if i'd cry, but europeans tend to be a little softer...
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    Apparently he dropped his chain twice, caught the leader and lost the finish line sprint by 1 second when he came unclipped, But still, quite a display for a 27 year old. Certainly puts Georgia Gould's teary-eyed heartbreaker finish at Windham into perspective, she definitely has bigger stones than this guy.

    Belgium qualified 2 guys for the Olympics, so likely this guy and the guy who won will be there.

    The last time I witnessed a meltdown with that much crying was at the 2008 Mont Sainte Anne Shimano Veli-Kids race where this 6 year old fell over and had a complete crying breakdown. He wasn't badly hurt, he just seemed overwhelmed by this race experience.

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    And this guy is a mountain biker? Wonder what he does when some one beats his time on Strava?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dgage View Post
    Wonder what he does when some one beats his time on Strava?
    Same as the rest of us. Cries like a baby.

    (j/k I don't have a GPS unit or Strava account, but a sample pack of tissues should definitely be provided to all GPS/Strava users )

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    What a pathetic display. This guy is an embarrassment to his sponsors. I get that losses at this level can be crushing, but have the presence in mind to at least go into your trailer or whatever rather than yelling at your fans when they are trying to console you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    What a pathetic display. This guy is an embarrassment to his sponsors. I get that losses at this level can be crushing, but have the presence in mind to at least go into your trailer or whatever rather than yelling at your fans when they are trying to console you.
    It seems to be a common European problem.

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    The back story... doesn't really make it much better

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    Sorry but I find it funny the reactions from people here are. Obviously most here have never loved a sport like racers like this. But then again I doubt most here have. yes I'm being brutal but it gets old after a while. Probably the same lot that took shots at Perdita when she came up short at the last Olympics for spiking her shoe into the track out of frustration.

    I can understand his frustration. I recall more then once breaking down when despite doing everything right things went wrong while ski racing. One year over 4 different slalom races crashed out . It's hard sometimes when you give it your all and you come up short somehow to keep it all together. More recently at the second edition of the Vulture Bait 50k everything went south in terms of how my race went. Mid race because my race fell apart despite doing everything possible to make it a success. Sure there are tears... doesn't prove anything more then you are human and you care deeply about your sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    What a pathetic display. This guy is an embarrassment to his sponsors. I get that losses at this level can be crushing, but have the presence in mind to at least go into your trailer or whatever rather than yelling at your fans when they are trying to console you.
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    Lying face-down in the dirt (due to sobbing, gastric issues, medical distress, etc) after crossing the finish line is part of a complete race experience.

    Flailing your arms at bystanders is out of bounds.

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    Same as the rest of us. Cries like a baby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailtrash View Post
    agreed
    how would he handle a real tradgedy in his life
    lol no kidding... what a cry baby.

    Wonder how he would handle being told he has cancer... quit mountain biking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Sorry but I find it funny the reactions from people here are. Obviously most here have never loved a sport like racers like this.
    Whoa that's a pretty super massive assumption to make there.

    I tell you, the ones with true passion are the ones who get out any chance they can and do it for fun not for a prize purse.

    I can appreciate the guy is upset, but it's a first-world-problem really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R+P+K View Post
    Whoa that's a pretty super massive assumption to make there.

    I tell you, the ones with true passion are the ones who get out any chance they can and do it for fun not for a prize purse.

    I can appreciate the guy is upset, but it's a first-world-problem really.
    Maybe but it's hard to take seriously people on this forum in their posts here . Especially when they are being critical of others behaviour when they have demonstrated the same tendencies.

    But the reality is that for the majority of North Americans grasping of what athlete's like Van Hoovels or say Kyle Jones go through. It's like some half wit of Occupy Toronto trying to claim he fully understands what someone in Syria or Egypt is going through. They don't.

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    when i lose

    i kiss everyone...

    even captain...

    which is what i am trying to forget now....

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    When Oggie loses, everyone cries, and not out of sympathy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine View Post
    but europeans tend to be a little softer...
    wrong...

    not softer... they hate losing more...

    there is no "oh good try" when they miss an open goal in Europe, like in Canada...

    you miss the open net in an important game and you are done... probably also beaten by the fans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    i kiss everyone...

    even captain...

    which is what i am trying to forget now....
    And that is why I am crying, even at this moment.

    For the love of doG, please let Oggie win. He kissed me where.........the shame, the shame....

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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    wrong...

    not softer... they hate losing more...

    there is no "oh good try" when they miss an open goal in Europe, like in Canada...

    you miss the open net in an important game and you are done... probably also beaten by the fans...
    Yep. Joely played pro Volleyball in Italy one year and can attest to this. Another reason I fell in love with her. You want to piss me off racing tell me something from the participation realm. Ugh.

    There was a great article after Sydney 2000 when Kevin Sullivan came 5th. A huge milestone for Canadian track in the 1500. When he was told good try and result with 5th by Canadian reporters his response summed it all up nicely... " Sure...... But it's still not good enough."

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    wouldn't have happened with flats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Maybe but it's hard to take seriously people on this forum in their posts here . Especially when they are being critical of others behaviour when they have demonstrated the same tendencies.

    But the reality is that for the majority of North Americans grasping of what athlete's like Van Hoovels or say Kyle Jones go through. It's like some half wit of Occupy Toronto trying to claim he fully understands what someone in Syria or Egypt is going through. They don't.
    I think you've missed my point.

    I get that this guy is passionate about winning. I get the release of emotions that one experiences when the adrenaline is pumping. I have no difficulty with the fact that winning this race may have meant everything to him, and respect his commitment to winning and how crushing it might be not to win.

    But this guy has sponsors and team-mates. As someone at the top of his sport in a cycling-crazy country like Belgium he is presumably considered a role model by some. For someone of this sort of stature, behaving in this manner in public is unacceptable. Lashing out at his fans is worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine View Post
    wouldn't have happened with flats.
    Would have gone faster wearing baggies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I think you've missed my point.

    I get that this guy is passionate about winning. I get the release of emotions that one experiences when the adrenaline is pumping. I have no difficulty with the fact that winning this race may have meant everything to him, and respect his commitment to winning and how crushing it might be not to win.

    But this guy has sponsors and team-mates. As someone at the top of his sport in a cycling-crazy country like Belgium he is presumably considered a role model by some. For someone of this sort of stature, behaving in this manner in public is unacceptable. Lashing out at his fans is worse.
    My thoughts exactly. I'm sure lots of top level athletes feel like kicking and screaming when this sort of thing happens but they don't.....Maybe a tear or two or even a helmet thrown into the dirt (hey we're all human) but this guy definitely let his team/sponsors/fans down even more by acting like that.

    Maturity has a bit more to do with it, I think, than being European or North American......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Would have gone faster wearing baggies.
    If that LBS hadn't wanted to charge him for zip ties, he could have used a couple to keep his feet on the pedals
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    Quote Originally Posted by akura View Post
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    Maturity has a bit more to do with it, I think, than being European or North American......
    On the other hand some mental health experts would probably tell us this is a by product of men repressing emotion. After all it's okay for women to get emotional and cry over stuff while men don't cry. Or so I have been told.

    Though I gotta say this thread is so full of Testosterone I'm surprised none have us have had black suburbans pull up out front. And knocks on the door from the Centre for Ethics in sport.

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    maybe some people are just prone to throwing hissy fits when things don't go their way, while others are not so selfish.

    Did Georgia Gould have the same reaction after pinch flatting on the last lap and being overtaken back at the beginning of the month?

    Did Adam Scott toss his clubs in the pond after losing a 4-stroke lead over the final 4 holes last weekend?

    Did anyone in Texas start chucking the spare baseballs and bats at their fans after losing the World Series after they were leading it 3-2, last year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by XLNC View Post
    Did Adam Scott toss his clubs in the pond after losing a 4-stroke lead over the final 4 holes last weekend?
    To be fair, most ponds on PGA-tour courses are already full of clubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruiser View Post
    To be fair, most ponds on PGA-tour courses are already full of clubs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine View Post
    wouldn't have happened with flats.
    Nope, because he would have been back of the pack

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    [QUOTE=XLNC;9535067]or.

    maybe some people are just prone to throwing hissy fits when things don't go their way, while others are not so selfish.

    Did Georgia Gould have the same reaction after pinch flatting on the last lap and being overtaken back at the beginning of the month?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    On the other hand some mental health experts would probably tell us this is a by product of men repressing emotion. After all it's okay for women to get emotional and cry over stuff while men don't cry. Or so I have been told.

    Though I gotta say this thread is so full of Testosterone I'm surprised none have us have had black suburbans pull up out front. And knocks on the door from the Centre for Ethics in sport.
    I don't think that the responses here have anything to do with testosterone.

    His crying and boorish behaviour have nothing to do with the love of the sport, but his feeling sorry for HIMSELF.

    Sh!t happens, the way one deals with it demonstrates true character. And in my opinion, sport is a test of both character and athletic prowess. True champions are those who prove themselves in both areas.

    Just think how he would be viewed if instead of melting down, he kept his head high? He would be praised instead of being vilified and laughed at. And if you are going to sponsor someone, who would you want to be associated with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I think you've missed my point.

    I get that this guy is passionate about winning. I get the release of emotions that one experiences when the adrenaline is pumping. I have no difficulty with the fact that winning this race may have meant everything to him, and respect his commitment to winning and how crushing it might be not to win.

    But this guy has sponsors and team-mates. As someone at the top of his sport in a cycling-crazy country like Belgium he is presumably considered a role model by some. For someone of this sort of stature, behaving in this manner in public is unacceptable. Lashing out at his fans is worse.
    Hey Barry

    You sayin' Tiger Woods screwing everything that has two boobs and is less than 30 yrs old all while his wife was busy raising their family is a good role model just because Nike still sponsors him??

    I mean if Nike sponsors him he must be a great role model?

    Or not?

    The guy is still emotional after losing a race that he should have won based on quality. Yes shyte happens and it would have looked better if he "manned up". However although I enjoyed watching his tantrum, he is not less of a person in my eyes after the tantrum.

    We can laugh at him from our arm chairs, but he just lost a big race and is mentally and physically drained.

    Cut him some slack you bunch of wieners.


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    this behavior is unexceptable. that you are an athlete, or whatever does not exempt from acting like this. the only people who can get away acting like this are toddlers or people with mental health issues... then they need intervention and treatment...
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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    Hey Barry

    You sayin' Tiger Woods screwing everything that has two boobs and is less than 30 yrs old all while his wife was busy raising their family is a good role model just because Nike still sponsors him??

    I mean if Nike sponsors him he must be a great role model?

    Or not?

    The guy is still emotional after losing a race that he should have won based on quality. Yes shyte happens and it would have looked better if he "manned up". However although I enjoyed watching his tantrum, he is not less of a person in my eyes after the tantrum.

    We can laugh at him from our arm chairs, but he just lost a big race and is mentally and physically drained.

    Cut him some slack you bunch of wieners.


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    Actually, I am amazed that Nike still sponsors Tiger Woods.

    And (for the third time) it's not that he was emotional ... it's the way he lashed out at his fans.

    How long do you think I would be a Lapdog after a display like that? What would you expect Mattamy's reaction to be if you put on a display like that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    Actually, I am amazed that Nike still sponsors Tiger Woods.

    And (for the third time) it's not that he was emotional ... it's the way he lashed out at his fans.

    How long do you think I would be a Lapdog after a display like that? What would you expect Mattamy's reaction to be if you put on a display like that?
    Barry - those are European fans. Not North American fans.

    Big difference. Different culture. Not better or worse. Just different. Very different.

    Lapdog? Really? I don't know how long. You tell me.

    Mattamy? Good advertising. Any attention is good. "I'm the cash man and a loan arranger" horrific commercial but it seems to work for the freak.

    It is all about being politically correct here. Even if you make an arse of yourself. Gotta be politically correct. Gotta bite the bullet and calmly take the loss.

    We are not all the same Barry. He is not ashamed of showing his emotions and they were genuine. I am ok with that. Seen it many times over the pond, even from Canadians (Pierre Lueders - Olympic bobsled champion - no one could sit 10 feet or closer to him in the locker room or else he would have a tantrum). I can go on and on. Been there seen that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    Barry - those are European fans. Not North American fans.

    Big difference. Different culture. Not better or worse. Just different. Very different.

    Lapdog? Really? I don't know how long. You tell me.

    Mattamy? Good advertising. Any attention is good. "I'm the cash man and a loan arranger" horrific commercial but it seems to work for the freak.

    It is all about being politically correct here. Even if you make an arse of yourself. Gotta be politically correct. Gotta bite the bullet and calmly take the loss.

    We are not all the same Barry. He is not ashamed of showing his emotions and they were genuine. I am ok with that. Seen it many times over the pond, even from Canadians (Pierre Lueders - Olympic bobsled champion - no one could sit 10 feet or closer to him in the locker room or else he would have a tantrum). I can go on and on. Been there seen that.


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    Obviously you have competed at a higher level than I - in fact the highest level ( not talking about biking here ) so I respect your point of view. But we are gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    Lashing out at his fans is worse.
    Pretty sure one was his mommy. Toward the end. And he yells at her like a three-year-old.

    Glad he gets to go to the Olympics and give it a crack there. He must be a pretty fast rider to drop his chain twice and come unclipped and still be that close. Hopefully he figure out the issues with the chain and clips as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    Obviously you have competed at a higher level than I - in fact the highest level ( not talking about biking here ) so I respect your point of view. But we are gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.
    You are such a gentlemen Barry. Sometimes I do wish you were a girl so that I could ask you out for a dinner. Or two.

    Otherwise, I will let Captain keep you for now. I hate to see him be single.


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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    Hey We can laugh at him from our arm chairs, but he just lost a big race and is mentally and physically drained.

    Cut him some slack you bunch of wieners.

    Don't you love it Oggie, when Canadians get on their moral hign horse and look down at others in this case Europeans?

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    I can feel for the guy putting his everything into the race and the preparation that goes into it. When it comes down to it though, there's something to be said about being a professional and being a man. Emotion is a part of sport, and there's nothing wrong with showing it. Lashing out at people trying to support you and throwing an all-out hissyfit, however is not sportsmanship.
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    i find it funny that some people here who are most vocal about the indignities of stereotypes are excusing this boorish behavior with a blanket stereotype grouping of "europeans". hypocritical to say the least and ignorant to the knowledge that +87 ethnic groups are in the region. europe is not a melting pot by any means
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    There are plenty of elite athletes from all over the world (and little kids) that demonstrate this type of behaviour. However, there are significantly more elite athletes (and little kids) from Europe and throughout the world who have had to overcome difficult challenges, haven't had things turn out their way, and they haven't behaved in the same manner. The ones who behave boorishly are usually called out on the behaviour. Not saying that is right or wrong that's just the way it is, especially for those with a public profile. Moms usually console the disappointed, but ignore the temper tantrums.

    If hissy fitting its such a European thing, why not have all the losers do it at the finish line. I mean they all gave it their best didn't they and they didn't win for whatever reason. If they didn't have a hissy fit they would be perceived as not caring or not trying.

    It would be very entertaining to watch for a time or two maybe, but after that I think one would have to turn away.

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    In a way I see Oggie's point as it pertains to fan interaction. As we've seen in the Giro, the Tour and this race, over in Europe the spectators of these sporting events are right there with the competitors. Over here in North America, our 'main' sporting events don't get to see fans get so close to the action. When the last time you saw a dude in a mankini run the bases with a baseball player that just hit a home run? The exception to this is of course Golf (get it? 'course, ' 'golf'!!!), and if someone tried to console Tiger after a bad shot, they'd probably see a similar reaction because we've all seen the stare Tiger gives the 'gallery' when he makes a bad shot and someone just happened to snap a twig at the time......

    However, I still find it childish and would offer advice to this guy to "grow up" based solely on the fact that his temper tantrum lasted so long. I understand if you're upset and you smash you helmet on the ground or something, then walk away kicking dirt, but to continue the trantrum for several minutes after and through several different areas of the finish area defies the laws of 'grown up' anger management.
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    that about sums up my opinion as well - give or take

    if this was a prevalent behaviour in sports, i'd agree with the majority opinion here, but for those few and far in between examples like this sucky baby - i understand it and would cut him a slack... keep in mind - this may have been his first melt down for all we know. we all go through meltdowns from time to time and there is no explanations for it.

    certain character here who pretends to know everything about everything including trail building - now knows everything about other nations and their emotions and feelings... why dont you stick with putting forward YOUR opinion - no matter how stinky it is and let other people have and put forward their opinion...

    you moan and cry to moderators worse than this MTBer when someone spanks you on the internet - yet you like to put down other people around here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by XLNC View Post
    In a way I see Oggie's point as it pertains to fan interaction. As we've seen in the Giro, the Tour and this race, over in Europe the spectators of these sporting events are right there with the competitors. Over here in North America, our 'main' sporting events don't get to see fans get so close to the action. When the last time you saw a dude in a mankini run the bases with a baseball player that just hit a home run? The exception to this is of course Golf (get it? 'course, ' 'golf'!!!), and if someone tried to console Tiger after a bad shot, they'd probably see a similar reaction because we've all seen the stare Tiger gives the 'gallery' when he makes a bad shot and someone just happened to snap a twig at the time......

    However, I still find it childish and would offer advice to this guy to "grow up" based solely on the fact that his temper tantrum lasted so long. I understand if you're upset and you smash you helmet on the ground or something, then walk away kicking dirt, but to continue the trantrum for several minutes after and through several different areas of the finish area defies the laws of 'grown up' anger management.

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