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    Mongoose Deception

    New to MB , Bought a Wal-Mart 29" Deception...

    Tried to find some info online all I find is threads bashing WalMart
    and/or dumbasses who actually bought one of these like me..

    Going into it I knew It was gonna have it's limitations..
    After all it IS a $200 bike..

    So here is my review so far after riding about 50 miles of singletrack..

    #1 The whole Derailer/shifting system pretty much sukks.
    I tend to stay in the middle ring and only use the top three gears.

    #2 The brakes are soso I guess,I have never ridden a nice bike
    So I have nothing to compare them to.

    #3 At 5'11" I think the frame is a little big for me....
    I MIGHT have an inch of clearance...
    But the welds are very uniform I must say....

    #4 'I'm having a blast riding this bike..

    #5 The seat really sukks ass,that's the first thing I replaced..
    I'm not planning on doing many upgrades to this bike,I'm saving my $
    for a Jamis Exile 1.......

    I will probably end up makin it a SS bike in the future just for kikks..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houndog45
    #4 'I'm having a blast riding this bike..
    That's the most important point

    #5 is also a pretty solid plan. At least you didn't drop $1000 on a bike only to decide this isn't really your thing
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    Sounds like you got a good grip on things. Ride the Mongoose til it dies or you break a part that's not worth replacing. In the meantime, save your money for a nicer bike
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    Quote Originally Posted by Houndog45
    New to MB , Bought a Wal-Mart 29" Deception...

    Tried to find some info online all I find is threads bashing WalMart
    and/or dumbasses who actually bought one of these like me..

    Going into it I knew It was gonna have it's limitations..
    After all it IS a $200 bike..

    So here is my review so far after riding about 50 miles of singletrack..

    #1 The whole Derailer/shifting system pretty much sukks.
    I tend to stay in the middle ring and only use the top three gears.

    #2 The brakes are soso I guess,I have never ridden a nice bike
    So I have nothing to compare them to.

    #3 At 5'11" I think the frame is a little big for me....
    I MIGHT have an inch of clearance...
    But the welds are very uniform I must say....

    #4 'I'm having a blast riding this bike..

    #5 The seat really sukks ass,that's the first thing I replaced..
    I'm not planning on doing many upgrades to this bike,I'm saving my $
    for a Jamis Exile 1.......

    I will probably end up makin it a SS bike in the future just for kikks..
    #1 A tune up by someone who doesn't double as the BBQ assembler might help this situation (ie spend $50-$60 and have an LBS do a full tune on it, even cheap stuff can shift well if properly tuned).

    #2 To be expected, most disc brakes on sub $500 bikes are mediocre

    #3 29ers tend to have less clearance than equivalent sized 26ers unless designed with a dropped top tube. Your reach fit is the more important measurement. And yes, the Chinese weld just fine these days.

    #4 That is the most important factor

    #5 Seats are subjective, all asses are not alike.

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    At least they got the name right
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    New question here. Welcome!!

    hound dog--

    Welcome to the Forum..

    I have been posting over on the "other" Walgoose 29er "Impasse" thread here, but it is now a moot subject, as the Impasse 29er has gone away.

    The reason that you could not find much info on the 'Net about your new Deception is that they are too new to the market..

    There are some comments and one review over on Walmart.com concerning the Deception.

    What color is yours??



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    Hey Eddie,Mine is green,,,And it's turned out pretty tough..I took a bad enough spill
    Sunday Morn that I had to be carried out of trails on a stretcher...I'm beat up good..
    The bike is fine...

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    Thanks Houndog! I am thinking right along those lines, not knowing if the 29er thing is for me! I'm about 5' 10" I guess the color is a crap shoot....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker72
    #1 A tune up by someone who doesn't double as the BBQ assembler might help this situation (ie spend $50-$60 and have an LBS do a full tune on it, even cheap stuff can shift well if properly tuned).
    +1. I just worked over a NEXT-brand bike, and it's shifting rather well. It's a bit easy to over-rotate the grip shifters, but the shifting per se is spot on. Some adjustments might do wonders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Houndog45
    I took a bad enough spill
    Sunday Morn that I had to be carried out of trails on a stretcher...I'm beat up good..
    The bike is fine...
    Hey, be careful. We don't want to lose you after only two posts. Stick around for awhile, ok?

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    There is another thread already running on this topic. Its gotten pretty heated. Its suspected the Deception is sporting a Performance Access 29er Frame made by Dorel. Here is the thread:

    walmart RIGID 29er

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    Good job! The color is Forest Green...

    Quote Originally Posted by Poikaa
    Thanks Houndog! I am thinking right along those lines, not knowing if the 29er thing is for me! I'm about 5' 10" I guess the color is a crap shoot....

    poikaa
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    The reason I asked Houndog what the color of his Deception was/is: Over on the Walmart
    Bike Website, one Owner was a bit concerned that his Deception was not Silver (like in the example pic of it that I posted) and it was actually Forest Green..green would be good IMHO.

    Another Owner was complaining a bit about how the decals on his Deception were put on very badly and were peeling off. Well----He did not know that this un-clear-coated decal deal is a blessing in disguise... It allows you to peel the ugly suckers right off..

    It says "mongoose" on it in about eight places!!

    So I guess that green it is..thanks again to Houndog...

    And get better quick...

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    I wonder whether my local Walmart has any of these Deceptions yet. So far, they've not stocked any of the 29er offerings.

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    Idea!

    Quote Originally Posted by JonathanGennick
    I wonder whether my local Walmart has any of these Deceptions yet. So far, they've not stocked any of the 29er offerings.
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    Jon--

    I *think* you can actually track this via the WM website...you go in and put your zip code
    in a provided box...the software locates *your* WM and will tell you if they have one..also,
    if you are silly enough to sign-up, they will send you an e-mail, if one comes in..

    Our Super WM is brand new and the only 29er they had was that copper-colored Genesis
    which is really a mis-mash mix-up of parts, Disc brake in the front, and a caliper rim brake in the rear AND the finish was bad...no thanks...

    The Deception is pretty rare And I think that if a store gets one in, it is sold that day..

    S.E.,

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    Just order it online , shipped to your local store .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steady Eddie
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    Jon--

    I *think* you can actually track this via the WM website...you go in and put your zip code
    in a provided box...the software locates *your* WM and will tell you if they have one..also,
    if you are silly enough to sign-up, they will send you an e-mail, if one comes in..

    Our Super WM is brand new and the only 29er they had was that copper-colored Genesis
    which is really a mis-mash mix-up of parts, Disc brake in the front, and a caliper rim brake in the rear AND the finish was bad...no thanks...

    The Deception is pretty rare And I think that if a store gets one in, it is sold that day..

    S.E.,
    I bought the copper Genesis- the decals on it are poorly applied but the color and finish are quite nice. After replacing the bottom bracket, seatpost, saddle and fork (went rigid) it's not a bad starter bike. I'm going to strip the decals and ride it till it breaks- then buy something better.

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    Hope Behold!!

    Quote Originally Posted by floydlippencott
    Just order it online , shipped to your local store .
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    Floyd---

    Of course you can order it...but..I am old school.

    Before I buy anything I MUST behold it. I have to lay hands on it and covet it...

    I have not seen one yet, either..

    Steady Eddie

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    Quote Originally Posted by momosgarage
    There is another thread already running on this topic. Its gotten pretty heated. Its suspected the Deception is sporting a Performance Access 29er Frame made by Dorel. Here is the thread:

    walmart RIGID 29er
    I thought that suspicion was just debunked.
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    Lets not let facts deter anyone from rampant speculation .

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    I thought that suspicion was just debunked.
    Lets not let facts deter anyone from rampant speculation .
    The thread is still going. Lots of people have all contributed different ideas. I would say there is no definitive answer yet, until someone takes hi-res photos to compare the frames. Seems like this topic would be better served as a single thread, rather than two separate threads.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...=1#post7477174

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! They are two different bikes..

    Quote Originally Posted by momosgarage
    The thread is still going. Lots of people have all contributed different ideas. I would say there is no definitive answer yet, until someone takes hi-res photos to compare the frames. Seems like this topic would be better served as a single thread, rather than two separate threads.

    http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.ph...=1#post7477174
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    momo--

    I came over here to post for a several reasons:

    #1. The Walgoose Impasse was a full-on rigid frame.

    #2. The Walgoose Deception has a different frame and has a front suspension fork.

    #3. Forum member Houndog45 actually HAS a Deception 29er, so this thread is the
    "go to" thread for all Deception questions.

    The Deception does NOT share a frameset with Access, they are the "same but different".

    I have located some Access photos for everyone to compare to:



    And, the BB



    I the top pic, you can clearly see the top tube is smaller and the length of the weld is longer..also the Access has a different
    headset tube.

    The Impasse 29er is a completely different bike. And one that is no longer sold. Hence the need for two threads..

    Steady Eddie

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    The Impasse 29er is a completely different bike. And one that is no longer sold. Hence the need for two threads..
    The other thread isn't just about the Impasse. All the Walmart 29ers were covered in the discussion at some point. Just seems silly to clutter the 29er sub-forum with two controversial threads about the same thing.

    walmart RIGID 29er

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    Let me know if you want pictures of anything else.Mongoose Deception-img_20101104_211625.jpg

    Mongoose Deception-img_20101104_211907.jpg

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    Thanks for the pics.........

    Lose the kickstand unless you plan to actually use it.

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    ... and if we just ... Great pics...



    Yes, thanks for the pics..can you take a pic of the rear axle on the brake side??

    S.E.

    BTW--the welds look good....

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