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    I have a great name for a Titanium bike company.

    It could be the name of the company or the name of a bike that the company makes. A great name can mean everything to a company. With so much competition out there, it takes a company that is doing everything right on many different levels, in order to rise to the top. A good name is just one level. My name is catchy and also has a dual meaning. One of those meanings has something to do with what a lot of bike riders like to do when we are not riding. The other meaning, obviously, has to do with bikes.

    The only thing I ask for, in exchange for my name is a one of your custom Titanium bikes.
    PM me with a link to your website and lets talk!

    I added this from below to explain things a little:
    This is kind of a hobby of mine. Coming up with names, new product ideas or ways to make a product better. So this isn't the first time, or last time, I have done this. Sometimes I get a free product, sometimes I get a licensing fee, sometimes nothing comes of it. I came up with the idea of doing this from a great marketing teacher that I had in college. His name was Jerry Fetch, he did the same thing all the time. it's kinda fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy
    Hey, what's so funny? Iv'e done this kinda thing before. I'm full of a million ideas!

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    One of the funniest posts EVAR!
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    Give it up, nobody will ever be able to top Dick Power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    It could be the name of the company or the name of a bike that the company makes. A great name can mean everything to a company. With so much competition out there, it takes a company that is doing everything right on many different levels, in order to rise to the top. A good name is just one level. My name is catchy and also has a dual meaning. One of those meanings has something to do with what a lot of bike riders like to do when we are not riding. The other meaning, obviously, has to do with bikes.

    The only thing I ask for, in exchange for my name is a one of your custom Titanium bikes.
    PM me with a link to your website and lets talk!

    Ok deal.

    Once your amazing bike frame name has caused us to sell 100 ti frames per year, you will get your free frame.

    Ok deal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBaron
    Ok deal.

    Once your amazing bike frame name has caused us to sell 100 ti frames per year, you will get your free frame.

    Ok deal?
    CJB
    A name by itself isn't going to cause you to sell a certain # of items. Like I said in the OP, you have to have a lot going for you on many different levels to be a success. A good name is just one of the many parts. I will take a look at what you make. But, I'm sorry, I won't agree to getting paid, after you sell 100 units/year. If it was based on units, I would ask for a licensing fee.
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    I think this is a great idea - however I would feel bad only giving you one custom frame for all your hard work...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tamen00
    I think this is a great idea - however I would feel bad only giving you one custom frame for all your hard work...
    I know it's tough, but someones got to do it. It's kind of a hobby of mine. Coming up with names, new product ideas or ways to make a product better. So this isn't the first time, or last time, I have done this. Sometimes I get a free product, sometimes I get a licensing fee, sometimes nothing comes of it. I came up with the idea of doing this from a great marketing teacher that I had in college. His name was Jerry Fetch, he did the same thing all the time. it's kinda fun.
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    You should make an infomercial
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    Quote Originally Posted by wv_bob
    You should make an infomercial
    About what?

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    Is it better than 'Mountain Cycle Shawn'?

    That's some amazing skills you gots.

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    I admire the chudzpah. I'll bet you've got some good stories, what is the most grief you've gotten from a proposal like this and still gotten paid? Or alternately what is the wackiest thing you've come up with that you were able to convert into goods, services or money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pvd
    Is it better than 'Mountain Cycle Shawn'?

    That's some amazing skills you gots.
    I think it's better then pvd, more commenly known as - Peripheral vascular disease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j-ro
    I admire the chudzpah. I'll bet you've got some good stories, what is the most grief you've gotten from a proposal like this and still gotten paid? Or alternately what is the wackiest thing you've come up with that you were able to convert into goods, services or money?
    Your 1st ? - Here. Edit - I haven't been paid, so I guess thats not true. I have so many ideas, I have to write them down, or I'll forget them. The only ones I tell, without a non-disclosure agreement are my BF/my financial adviser/financial wizard and my GF. They let me know if my idea is a bad idea.

    Your 2nd ? - All parties involved sign a non-disclosure agreement.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-disclosure_agreement
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    Quote Originally Posted by CBaron
    Ok deal.

    Once your amazing bike frame name has caused us to sell 100 ti frames per year, you will get your free frame.

    Ok deal?
    CJB
    Wouldn't be kinda hard to sell 100 titanium frames/year when you don't offer titanium frames and the frames you do make are made one at a time, in your spare time?

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    I don't think I'd want to name my bike "Malted Hops and Bong Resin". Nice try though.

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    Thanks, man. I'm gonna name my company Troll Cycles. I'll be boxing up your frame soon. That was awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edoz
    Thanks, man. I'm gonna name my company Troll Cycles. I'll be boxing up your frame soon. That was awesome.
    That would be an appropiate name for you.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

    That was awesome!

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    I think Titus is already taken?
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    Sean, if you think your name idea is good, trademark it. The cost is cheap, compared to even a single Ti frame. Who knows what might happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    I know it's tough, but someones got to do it. It's kind of a hobby of mine. Coming up with names, new product ideas or ways to make a product better..
    And it's just a coincidence that these ideas come to you around 4:20 everyday?

    Edit: I see FB beat me to it...well played!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Wire
    And it's just a coincidence that these ideas come to you around 4:20 everyday?

    Edit: I see FB beat me to it...well played!
    That's funny and ironic that you say that. Iv'e never gone there (4:20) and never will. I know it's hard to believe. The Sheriff's department didn't believe me either when I was getting into the academy. I almost didn't make it because of that. They kinda had a problem with my under aged GF also.

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    What's the name?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy FitzGibbon
    What's the name?
    Do you make Titanium Bicycles? Are you ready to sign a non disclosure agreement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Wire
    And it's just a coincidence that these ideas come to you around 4:20 everyday?

    Edit: I see FB beat me to it...well played!

    I do a crap at the same time every day. Does that mean I'm a stoner?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thylacine
    I do a crap at the same time every day. Does that mean I'm a stoner?
    Do you take said crap at 4:20?

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    No, I wish I had though, because then the name of my company would be dope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Do you make Titanium Bicycles? Are you ready to sign a non disclosure agreement?
    I will, send me a non disclosure and I'll sign it. If the name is so good that it will work, I'll start a company and send you a frame. My guess is it isn't that good and you won't get anything. Prove me wrong.

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    No thanks, I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I've done this before and I'll do it again. If you could start a bike company, You would have done it by now. And just so you know, a non disclosure agreement means non disclosure, before and after a deal is done. Which means, If I find someone who wants the name and they buy it, the only people who will know about it (where the name came from) will be those who have signed the non disclosure agreement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jay_ntwr
    I will, send me a non disclosure and I'll sign it. If the name is so good that it will work, I'll start a company and send you a frame. My guess is it isn't that good and you won't get anything. Prove me wrong.
    I suspect he'd make more money from you when you are compelled to post the name online because it's so funny.

    Nobody is interested mate. People don't trawl internet forums looking for a name for new framebuilding ventures. They just use their dad's middle name, or some obscure movie reference, or some stupid extinct animal.
    No longer member of the bike industry nor society, so don't hassle me.

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    You need to post over at frameforum or velocipedesalon. I'm sure some one over there will bite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    No thanks, I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I've done this before and I'll do it again. If you could start a bike company, You would have done it by now. And just so you know, a non disclosure agreement means non disclosure, before and after a deal is done. Which means, If I find someone who wants the name and they buy it, the only people who will know about it will be those who have signed the non disclosure agreement.
    Wow, I thought this whole thread was a joke at first, I guess you were serious! Good on you for rolling with my stupid stoner joke though

    Still, look at Dick Power, he sold bikes....the name doesn't really matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.F.L.
    Sean, if you think your name idea is good, trademark it. The cost is cheap, compared to even a single Ti frame. Who knows what might happen.
    Trademarking is not so easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Trademarking is not so easy.






    Niether is building a frame. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS
    Niether is building a frame. Just sayin.
    I've heard it can be if you just outsource the work and don't bother to check the tolerances the actual builder is working to or the specs of a finished frame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS
    Niether is building a frame. Just sayin.
    That's why I don't build them. Just sayin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Wire
    Give it up, nobody will ever be able to top Dick Power.
    http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv...dpowerTKC.html
    I remember people buying "Sex Wax" T-Shirts back in the 80's here in Kansas City. I believe the closest any of us came to a surf board was ABC's wide world of sports. Yet we all had to have the shirt that said "Sex Wax". Just imagine a T-Shirt that said "Dick Power".

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    Quote Originally Posted by crank1979@optusnet.com.au
    I've heard it can be if you just outsource the work and don't bother to check the tolerances the actual builder is working to or the specs of a finished frame.
    I think that's funny!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CurbDestroyer
    I remember people buying "Sex Wax" T-Shirts back in the 80's here in Kansas City. I believe the closest any of us came to a surf board was ABC's wide world of sports. Yet we all had to have the shirt that said "Sex Wax". Just imagine a T-Shirt that said "Dick Power".
    Just think if we had someone name Dick running for President. Dick for President. I was going to say something about our current president, that might get me in trouble though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    No thanks, I don't need to prove anything to anyone. I've done this before and I'll do it again. If you could start a bike company, You would have done it by now. And just so you know, a non disclosure agreement means non disclosure, before and after a deal is done. Which means, If I find someone who wants the name and they buy it, the only people who will know about it will be those who have signed the non disclosure agreement.
    So, wait a minute. You'll only deal with folks ALREADY running a bike company?

    No one is going to want to change the name of their business. No name is so good that it's worth burning all the reputation they've already built, throwing out all the stickers and forms and other company property with their name already on it, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Val Garou
    So, wait a minute. You'll only deal with folks ALREADY running a bike company?

    No one is going to want to change the name of their business. No name is so good that it's worth burning all the reputation they've already built, throwing out all the stickers and forms and other company property with their name already on it, etc.
    Plus the legal and tax related work, fees, registration, etc. Also pay someone to rebuild a website and graphics. I'm sure there's more too

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomn
    Plus the legal and tax related work, fees, registration, etc. Also pay someone to rebuild a website and graphics. I'm sure there's more too
    I was thinking more for a start-up company. Or, if you read the OP the name could be, and probably would be more suited for the name of a specific bike that the company makes. It would be for a specific type of bike, but type of bike would give a clue to the name. So, I won't say what type of bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    I was thinking more for a start-up company. Or, if you read the OP the name could be, and probably would be more suited for the name of a specific bike that the company makes. It would be for a specific type of bike, but type of bike would give a clue to the name. So, I won't say what type of bike.

    This is where you are flat delusional. I am a start up company and you nixed me 'cause you said I'd already have started a company if I were serious. Chicken and the egg....

    Anyway, I'm really not interested and I'm sure your name sucks too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay_ntwr
    If the name is so good that it will work, I'll start a company and send you a frame.
    Well, which is it? Are you in the process of starting a company that makes Titanium bikes? Or, like you said above: Will you start a company if my name is good? There is a very big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay_ntwr
    This is where you are flat delusional. I am a start up company and you nixed me 'cause you said I'd already have started a company if I were serious. Chicken and the egg....

    Anyway, I'm really not interested and I'm sure your name sucks too.
    Good for you! That's the way to tell me off!

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    Is it TITAN:US ?

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    Hmmm... Let me think.... All those amazing names that define and drive the biggest bike brands:

    Giant
    Trek
    Specialized
    Santa Cruz
    Chris King
    Thomson

    And those funky names that make boutique brands so - ooh I am squirming - sell like hot cakes....

    Seven
    Serotta
    Independent Fabrications
    Eriksen

    Sorry to burst your bubble and say this isn't facebook or google country. Unless you have a unique idea to make your name you're just smokin.

    Now lets have your name so we can all witness the auction that follows.

    And for the record.... You don't need a trademark. Your first post of this new unique idea RIGHT HERE will be enough. In fact by posting it in public you actually establish a claim! Hows that!

    By sharing it with us if by some twist of luck some schmuck actually made it big by ripping you - you'd have a claim for more than a frame. I'll even underwrite your claim for 30%. Such is the value of a public forum.

    Give it up - this post will rock for a while and so will you! Do you want to protect your name. Post it - then we'll know its yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Which means, If I find someone who wants the name and they buy it, the only people who will know about it will be those who have signed the non disclosure agreement.
    So the person who signs the NDA isn't allowed to put the name on the bike and sell them?

    Seriously, dude... like somebody just posted, if you just post the name publicly, you'll already have a claim to the name.

    I do have a serious question for you. What have you come up with that you have been paid for and is currently being marketed? You keep saying that you're making money on ideas like this, but what kind of ideas? Let's see some of your work....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyDean
    So the person who signs the NDA isn't allowed to put the name on the bike and sell them?

    Seriously, dude... like somebody just posted, if you just post the name publicly, you'll already have a claim to the name.

    I do have a serious question for you. What have you come up with that you have been paid for and is currently being marketed? You keep saying that you're making money on ideas like this, but what kind of ideas? Let's see some of your work....
    I bet he invented Post-it Notes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyDean
    So the person who signs the NDA isn't allowed to put the name on the bike and sell them?

    Seriously, dude... like somebody just posted, if you just post the name publicly, you'll already have a claim to the name.

    I do have a serious question for you. What have you come up with that you have been paid for and is currently being marketed? You keep saying that you're making money on ideas like this, but what kind of ideas? Let's see some of your work....
    Read and comprehend the whole thread and get back to me.

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    You're quite clearly impressed by and feel you should be rewarded for your genius, so I'm going to guess the name is:

    Narcissistic Cycles

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narciss...ssistic_traits

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    C'mon you guys - just look what it did for Mountain Cycle! - Steve Garro, Coconino Cycles.
    steve garro el jefe/el solo. coconino cycles www.coconinocycles.com www.coconinocycles.blogspot.com

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    No, "cycle" involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Read and comprehend the whole thread and get back to me.

    Re-read. Still no answer to my question (the NDA question was obviously sarcasm, sorry if you couldn't pick up on that).

    So again, what products did you think up that you are currently collecting licensing fees for? Or what freebies have you received in return for your sweet ideas?

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    Read post #32.

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    I see where he's going with this....Cove is doing this sort of thing with great success with their cycles, Handjob, Hummer, Hooker, Stiffee, STD, etc. Trademark a name, and if it wants to be used by a manufacturer, they would need your permission and/or pay you for using that name.

    I did that several years ago, where I registered a domain name for a dot.com, dot.net, dot.org sites, but I never got past the registration or rather never started the forum idea I had. Anyhow, because of agreements I made not to divulge the subsequent transaction I made, I sold the rights to these three domain names for nearly 6 figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraumaARNP
    I see where he's going with this....Cove is doing this sort of thing with great success with their cycles, Handjob, Hummer, Hooker, Stiffee, STD, etc. Trademark a name, and if it wants to be used by a manufacturer, they would need your permission and/or pay you for using that name.

    I did that several years ago, where I registered a domain name for a dot.com, dot.net, dot.org sites, but I never got past the registration or rather never started the forum idea I had. Anyhow, because of agreements I made not to divulge the subsequent transaction I made, I sold the rights to these three domain names for nearly 6 figures.
    Really? Then I would think that you would know enough about trademarks to know that getting one isn't so easy. I might as well just start my own company and sell frames across state lines or to another country. Because that's really what it takes to get a trademark. And a trademark isn't just about a name. It's also about a logo and/or a recognizable design of the name.

    You really should have known!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn
    Really? Then I would think that you would know enough about trademarks to know that getting one isn't so easy. I might as well just start my own company and sell frames across state lines or to another country. Because that's really what it takes to get a trademark. And a trademark isn't just about a name. It's also about a logo and/or a recognizable design of the name.

    You really should have known!

    Not really, I used the term loosely, and as an example, albeit, a poor one. My point was how I sold my domain name, which a manufacturer of a product wanted bad enough to pay for.

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    I love how he does this all the time and makes money and wants us to buy his idea. But when asked to give an example or somethign he has done before he says he doensn't need to prove anything to us but still asks for free stuff or money.

    Oh and I have a good name for a bike company. Niner bikes. There I said it. If I see anyone producing niner bikes I am going to be rich.

    This has to be a joke post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent878
    I love how he does this all the time and makes money and wants us to buy his idea. But when asked to give an example or somethign he has done before he says he doensn't need to prove anything to us but still asks for free stuff or money.

    Oh and I have a good name for a bike company. Niner bikes. There I said it. If I see anyone producing niner bikes I am going to be rich.

    This has to be a joke post.
    In his defense, he already explained why he legally can't do that. If/when he finds someone to buy an idea of his, both parties sign a non-disclosure agreement. He wouldn't be able to talk about what he has created because it would undermine the marketing of those companies

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    Quote Originally Posted by brent878
    I love how he does this all the time and makes money and wants us to buy his idea. But when asked to give an example or somethign he has done before he says he doensn't need to prove anything to us but still asks for free stuff or money.

    Oh and I have a good name for a bike company. Niner bikes. There I said it. If I see anyone producing niner bikes I am going to be rich.

    This has to be a joke post.

    Yep, I'm slow at times, and I see that he's just FOS; that, and contrarian, combative, and quite possibly, well, just trolling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraumaARNP
    Yep, I'm slow at times, and I see that he's just FOS; that, and contrarian, combative, and quite possibly, well, just trolling.
    Your the one who was going to school me on the trademark idea and it turns out you know nothing about them.

    Did you sign a ND agreement when you sold your domain names?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Live Wire
    Give it up, nobody will ever be able to top Dick Power.
    http://www.bikecult.com/works/archiv...dpowerTKC.html
    Hmmmm...

    I used to know a guy with a combat firearms shop named "Dick Bash"

    He used to say "If you're hunting something, see the guys at Castro Valley Gun Shop. If what you're hunting is hunting you, come see us "
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    I don't normally talk about this, but since we're on the subject, I thought up and subsequently sold the name Shimano. Back then, there wasn't a lot of standardization in components, so shims were often required for proper fit. My vision was a line of components that didn't require any shims, and thus the Shimano name was born. With the money I made, I built a time machine and traveled back to a small Italian village in the early 30's where I adopted an orphan and named him Gentullio Campagnolo. I then taught little Tullio how to build quality components, and gave him the idea for the quick release skewer before returning to modern times to invent the internet and stuffed crust pizza.

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    By the looks of your avitar, it looks like you traveled back to the '80's and joined a washed up hair band. Or maybe that's your GF, I'm not sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler
    I don't normally talk about this, but since we're on the subject, I thought up and subsequently sold the name Shimano. Back then, there wasn't a lot of standardization in components, so shims were often required for proper fit. My vision was a line of components that didn't require any shims, and thus the Shimano name was born. With the money I made, I built a time machine and traveled back to a small Italian village in the early 30's where I adopted an orphan and named him Gentullio Campagnolo. I then taught little Tullio how to build quality components, and gave him the idea for the quick release skewer before returning to modern times to invent the internet and stuffed crust pizza.
    Godamm, thats an impressive time-line. Your over-qualified in my book!! I've been working on an invention as well. Its called "I cant beleive it's not cocaine", it smells and looks like the real thing, but its fake!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sizzler
    I don't normally talk about this, but since we're on the subject, I thought up and subsequently sold the name Shimano. Back then, there wasn't a lot of standardization in components, so shims were often required for proper fit. My vision was a line of components that didn't require any shims, and thus the Shimano name was born. With the money I made, I built a time machine and traveled back to a small Italian village in the early 30's where I adopted an orphan and named him Gentullio Campagnolo. I then taught little Tullio how to build quality components, and gave him the idea for the quick release skewer before returning to modern times to invent the internet and stuffed crust pizza.
    I didn't think it could be done - "post of the year" inside of "thread of the year"...well done to Sizzler and to the genius known only as Mountain Cycle Shawn...

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