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    How to patch pinhole on hydration reservoir?

    I just got a brand new Hydrapak Selva and the reservoir had a pinhole in it. Got it from Jenson USA and they are sending me a replacement bladder at no charge and let me keep the defective one. Since the hole is pretty small I'm thinking of trying to patch it so I can have it as a reserve. Anybody done this before? The hole is big enough to cause a trickle but not that big that it's spewing water. It's literally a pinhole, can't even really see it that well except for the water droplets coming out.

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    I've never had any experience with this, but since it is only a pin size hole. I'm guessing just a dab of silicone glue would patch it up. Once its dried up its actually flexible. Though I don't how it will hold up with the plastic material that Hydrapak uses.

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    I never repaired one, but I would try a patch kit for an inner tube. Or maybe one that you would use to repair a raft or an air matress.

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    Water bed mattress patch.

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    Do you have a bike tube repair kit?
    There you go.

    I'd probably get some heavy duty clear tape, and cut a small circle out of it. Helicopter tape would be ideal. Clear packing tape should work. If it is a circular patch, it will be less likely to crinkle up at the edges.

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    Super glue plus duct tape.
    Hell, just super glue ought to work.

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    Throw it away.

    It is broken. Broken when you got it. Save the mouthpiece. I use Camelback bladders for about a year or two (4 days a week). then toss 'em. I Clean it once every 2 months or so. New ones are worth $25 you pay for them. TOSS IT

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    I would worry about chemicals leaking into the water you drink. I would use aquarium glue. If it's safe for fish, then it's safe for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoolie View Post
    It is broken. Broken when you got it. Save the mouthpiece. I use Camelback bladders for about a year or two (4 days a week). then toss 'em. I Clean it once every 2 months or so. New ones are worth $25 you pay for them. TOSS IT
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    hold on to it, and send it to hydrapak for a replacement bladder a year later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecub View Post
    I would worry about chemicals leaking into the water you drink. I would use aquarium glue. If it's safe for fish, then it's safe for you.
    Ha,ha maybe for you but not me. I hold myself a little higher on the totem pole than a fish. No matter what glue or patch kit or silicone you use is it worth stressing out on, if the chemicals are being ingested through the water you drink. NOT for me I vote on the "toss it" suggestion.
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    A dab 'o Show Goo would do the trick, but the tire patch should work. Ditto on the water bed patch. With a pinhole sized leak, your exposure to chemicals would be negligible.
    Not saying you ought to abandon the old hydration bladder, but I really like the new CamelBack bladder. Several major improvements made it worth the $$ for me:
    Divided bladder; water does not slosh
    The cap is now very, very easy to tighten and equally easy to remove, which makes my arthritic hands very, very happy--no more titanic struggles to open it up. An easy quarter twist and you are done
    The drinking tube now detaches/reattaches easily to the bladder. Makes it so much easier to take the bladder out to fill up, without being tethered to the pack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Ha,ha maybe for you but not me. I hold myself a little higher on the totem pole than a fish. No matter what glue or patch kit or silicone you use is it worth stressing out on, if the chemicals are being ingested through the water you drink. NOT for me I vote on the "toss it" suggestion.
    DJ i agree with the toss it suggestion as well- but as far as the aquarium glue goes...he had a good point. it would probably be the best choice, if you absolutely HAD to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ecub View Post
    I would worry about chemicals leaking into the water you drink. I would use aquarium glue. If it's safe for fish, then it's safe for you.
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    I've never once cleaned out my camelbak... in 4 years.
    That's kinda scary if you don't freeze it. I have never cleaned mine either but that's because after each ride I leave a small amount of water in it and throw it in the freezer
    This keeps any bacteria from forming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DavyRay View Post
    Do you have a bike tube repair kit?
    There you go.

    I'd probably get some heavy duty clear tape, and cut a small circle out of it. Helicopter tape would be ideal. Clear packing tape should work. If it is a circular patch, it will be less likely to crinkle up at the edges.
    Are you suggesting to reinforce the bike patch with heavy duty clear tape or clear tape? Or are you saying to use the tape if I don't have a bike tube repair kit? I do have one. Thanks for the suggestions and especially about making the patch circular. I read about that too, that patches with corners will tend to lift up..

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    Quote Originally Posted by laztpn0i View Post
    I've never had any experience with this, but since it is only a pin size hole. I'm guessing just a dab of silicone glue would patch it up. Once its dried up its actually flexible. Though I don't how it will hold up with the plastic material that Hydrapak uses.
    Upon close inspection it wasn't actually literally a pin sized hole. Or maybe it was then it got a bit bigger because of the water flowing out of it. Anyway, thanks for the suggestion, I didn't know what silicone glue was. I will probably try a bike patch or a water bed vinyl patch first because of the size of the hole but I'm glad I heard of silicone glue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by June Bug View Post
    A dab 'o Show Goo would do the trick, but the tire patch should work. Ditto on the water bed patch. With a pinhole sized leak, your exposure to chemicals would be negligible.
    Not saying you ought to abandon the old hydration bladder, but I really like the new CamelBack bladder. Several major improvements made it worth the $$ for me:
    Divided bladder; water does not slosh
    The cap is now very, very easy to tighten and equally easy to remove, which makes my arthritic hands very, very happy--no more titanic struggles to open it up. An easy quarter twist and you are done
    The drinking tube now detaches/reattaches easily to the bladder. Makes it so much easier to take the bladder out to fill up, without being tethered to the pack.
    I actually have a Camelback Consigliere and I do love the bladder too. I actually bought the Consigliere and Hydrapak Selva at the same time because I could not decide which one I liked better. I liked the reversible, super easy to clean bladder of the Selva but the Consigliere is a better pack, in that it's bigger, looks nicer and more durable. The Selva though is more lightweight and seems to be waterproof or at least water resistant. I have another back pack that has a similar material and when it rains, the contents of my bag are kept dry (as long as the pack is on my back and the back panel is not exposed). Anyway, I gave the Selva to my sister because she's 12 and she was very amused about having a bag with a straw. LOL I can still take it away from her if I wanted to use it for a day hahaha.

    Anyway, JensonUSA sent a replacement bladder and were kind enough to send me the more expensive bladder with shape shift. Basically, the same as the Camelbak Antidote bladder with the middle baffle. I don't know why Hydrapak just doesn't equip all their packs with their new "Shape Shift" bladder. It's annoying. I wish they did what Camelbak did and just equipped all the new packs with the new Antidote bladder. Anyway...

    The Camelbak bladder seems more durable but it's harder (not hard but harder than the Hydrapak) to fill and clean. The Antidote bite valve is way better too. But as I have read in one thread, just replace the Hydrapak bladders with a Nalgene bite valve (or Camelbak) and all is well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    Weld it with a dab of PE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SnowMongoose View Post
    Super glue plus duct tape.
    Hell, just super glue ought to work.
    This could be the most ghetto suggestion so far. LOL But duct tape is awesome. I prefer the cleaner look of maybe a bike patch or water bed vinyl patch but if those don't work I will probably try this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtsideup View Post
    Two scoops of Stans and shake er' around.
    Seriously? I haven't done tubeless but do you really think this would work? I'm not very familiar with how sealant works but I think I get the picture... but if this would work it might be the cleanest way to go..

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    Yeah I'm not worried about the chemicals. It's such a small hole that it would be pretty negligible. And I think that if the glue is already all dried up it wouldn't seep into the water.

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    K, it's not holding. I tried to rough up the surface of the bladder but it's not really doing it. I'm afraid to get aggressive with roughing it up because I might poke more holes or weaken it.

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    Toss it

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    I would try a waterbed or pool patch. Any vinyl patch should work
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    Just use a vinyl pool-toy patch kit. They're made to hold under water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattC555 View Post
    Toss it
    Sorry but that's not a suggestion on "How to patch pinhole on hydration reservoir". Please reply again when you have a possible viable method of patching it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Douger-1 View Post
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    Seriously buy a new one
    I don't need a new one. I have a perfectly good Camelbak. This came with my Hydrapak and I've gotten a replacement already from JensonUSA but they said I didn't need to send back the faulty one. So I really don't need to spend more money for another bladder. This is just for fun and since the bladder isn't totally ruined and seems like it can be fixed. Why waste money when I can fix it? And I'm not worried about chemicals due to the size of the hole.

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    Yeah I think I'm gonna try the Vinyl Patch. It's not the water issue that's making it come off. The inner tube patch is just not holding I think mainly due to the surface type of the bladder and that I can't really rough it up too much. Anyway, I might just try Epoxy glue with the same rubber patch if the Vinyl doesn't work.

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    Vinyl Patch not working. I feel like it's just because I'm not roughing up the surface enough for fear of tearing right through the rubber. I might try some really sticky clear tape. Someone suggested Helicopter tape. We'll see how that works.

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    I've patched a couple small leaks in bladders before using Park glueless patches. The bladders are still holding and are still in service.

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    I had a similar leak with a CamelBak bladder. I used 100% silicone glue, and it's held for a couple of years now. I think you can even get kitchen-safe silicone sealants, which hopefully minimizes any chemical leaching....

    I think I used this: Walmart.com: Dap 00684 Dow Corning Clear Silicone Rubber Sealant: Sealants, Fillers & Adhesives
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    Jon the OP so what's the hold up? It's obvious you're dead set on fixing it. There are numerous suggestions on how to patch it. And It's been what a week now. Have you tried anything yet? Wouldn't it be less hassle to just toss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Jon the OP so what's the hold up? It's obvious you're dead set on fixing it. There are numerous suggestions on how to patch it. And It's been what a week now. Have you tried anything yet? Wouldn't it be less hassle to just toss it.
    Have you read the entire thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad mechanic View Post
    I've patched a couple small leaks in bladders before using Park glueless patches. The bladders are still holding and are still in service.
    There's a number of bad reviews about this product not holding up but that may be due to inadequate prep. I'm curious to try this because it seems like you use sandpaper to rough up your surface instead of the metal grater thing that is supplied with most patch kits, and it has a pre-applied adhesive on the patch. On the other hand, I might just try roughing up with sandpaper first and patching with my current patch kit and see how that goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jbird72 View Post
    I had a similar leak with a CamelBak bladder. I used 100% silicone glue, and it's held for a couple of years now. I think you can even get kitchen-safe silicone sealants, which hopefully minimizes any chemical leaching....

    I think I used this: Walmart.com: Dap 00684 Dow Corning Clear Silicone Rubber Sealant: Sealants, Fillers & Adhesives
    Did you just put a glob of glue on the hole and let the glue harden to form a seal?

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    DAP Products - Silicone Sealants - DAP® Household/Aquarium Adhesive Sealant

    says it's food safe. if truly a pinhole, a dab should work. if the hole is bigger than that, you will need to reinforce it with a patch. anything that sticks to silicone will work.

    keep in mind, silicone does not stick to all plastics. sometimes you need a special adhesive depending on the type of plastic you're working with. those will not be food grade. otherwise, wrap it in duct tape and use it until it dies.

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    I'd definitely go with a tube (like water tube) patch kit... those things can work wonders!

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    Most bladders are made of polyurethane as are waterbeds. Try the waterbed patch kit as AZ.MTNS suggested a week ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    There's a number of bad reviews about this product not holding up but that may be due to inadequate prep. I'm curious to try this because it seems like you use sandpaper to rough up your surface instead of the metal grater thing that is supplied with most patch kits, and it has a pre-applied adhesive on the patch. On the other hand, I might just try roughing up with sandpaper first and patching with my current patch kit and see how that goes.
    *shrug* I've always had excellent luck with the Park glueless patches, and they're all I use now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Have you read the entire thread?
    Apparently not, but it seems to me that there is still talk of how to do it. Reading every post of how sounds like too much work. Can you give me a quick rundown on the latest. What have you tried anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGWGFIWRT View Post
    Most bladders are made of polyurethane as are waterbeds. Try the waterbed patch kit as AZ.MTNS suggested a week ago.
    And I did as I mentioned 23 hours ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Reading every post of how sounds like too much work.
    If two pages is too much for you to read, I don't know why you are a member of a forum..unless it's just because you want to say something without thought to what has already been said before. There's a reason it's called a discussion board. And you never learned "skimming" when you were in high school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    If two pages is too much for you to read, I don't know why you are a member of a forum..unless it's just because you want to say something without thought to what has already been said before. There's a reason it's called a discussion board. And you never learned "skimming" when you were in high school?
    Hey now! just joking with you a little. And yes I'm slightly lazy tonight, enough so to not read through the whole thread. Sorry if that offended you. Carry on with your week long "how do you patch" discussion. I was just hoping you could of given me a quick overview of your progress but I guess that was too much to ask for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Hey now! just joking with you a little. And yes I'm slightly lazy tonight, enough so to not read through the whole thread. Sorry if that offended you. Carry on with your week long "how do you patch" discussion. I was just hoping you could of given me a quick overview of your progress but I guess that was too much to ask for.
    Well if you scroll up a little, even if you don't read the whole 2nd page, which only has 25 posts (not to mention each post has been really short ranging from a few words to a few sentences) minus your two posts...it'd be pretty easy to look for the "overview of my progress"..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Well if you scroll up a little, even if you don't read the whole 2nd page, which only has 25 posts (not to mention each post has been really short ranging from a few words to a few sentences) minus your two posts...it'd be pretty easy to look for the "overview of my progress"..
    Maybe later I will have formed enough interest to actually read enough of the thread to see your progress. All I was asking for (in jest) was an overview in a quick post from you. But you couldn't be curtious enough to give me that. But rather than typing up an overview you chose to type up insulting responses to my simple question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Maybe later I will have formed enough interest to actually read enough of the thread to see your progress. All I was asking for (in jest) was an overview in a quick post from you. But you couldn't be curtious enough to give me that. But rather than typing up an overview you chose to type up insulting responses to my simple question.
    So you're too lazy to actually read a 2 page thread with short responses for each post that any 11 year old could skim through to read only the bits they were interested in, and then proceed to ask me to retype statements that I have already typed only a few posts back, and blame me for being discourteous? Don't read it if you haven't "formed enough interest" but lazy fools who can't skim a 2 page thread need to be insulted.. it's like a stupid wannabe entrepreneur who goes to Kevin O'Leary with a stupid valuation for his business crying over why Kevin was being mean to him. Don't be stupid to begin with and you won't get a mean response.
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    IDK, I've used a Tear Away vinyl patch kit and it worked fine. I used the type B patch, cut it to fit, and followed the instructions. No hassle. No idea why you're having trouble. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    And I did as I mentioned 23 hours ago.
    I only read you had tried a vinyl patch. No mention of a waterbed patch that I could find. Apologies if I missed it.

    There are polyurethane patches made out of polyurethane for other materials and patches made to patch polyurethane (waterbed for instance). The adhesive has to be made to stick to polyurethane.

    Anyway good luck. You're putting way more effort into it than most would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ecub View Post
    I would worry about chemicals leaking into the water you drink. I would use aquarium glue. If it's safe for fish, then it's safe for you.
    I work as a chemist in a chemical plant, and I don't exactly agree with your logic here...

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    But I would use super glue and a patch kit. Any chemicals that would leak into the water would be such a low concentration that it will not have any adverse effect on you. Believe me, the plant I work at, we make Food dyes, and you'd be pretty uneasy if you knew the stuff that was in the food you eat. But its at such a low concentration there is no reaction with anything in your body. Of course it all gets certified through the FDA, but any impurities must be below a certain spec. Anyways, basically what I'm getting at, is using super glue or any resin in a small amount will not effect you in any way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    There's a number of bad reviews about this product not holding up but that may be due to inadequate prep. I'm curious to try this because it seems like you use sandpaper to rough up your surface instead of the metal grater thing that is supplied with most patch kits, and it has a pre-applied adhesive on the patch. On the other hand, I might just try roughing up with sandpaper first and patching with my current patch kit and see how that goes.

    So stop worrying about roughing up too much.......what is the worst that happens? At thi point it is not usable.......if you rough it up too much and the patch doesn't work.....it is still unusable.

    Seems to be waaaaaayyyyy too much effort going into this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OGWGFIWRT View Post
    I only read you had tried a vinyl patch. No mention of a waterbed patch that I could find. Apologies if I missed it.

    There are polyurethane patches made out of polyurethane for other materials and patches made to patch polyurethane (waterbed for instance). The adhesive has to be made to stick to polyurethane.

    Anyway good luck. You're putting way more effort into it than most would.
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    You can use Tear-aid. For Polyurethane, you need to use type A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfstep View Post
    You can use Tear-aid. For Polyurethane, you need to use type A.
    TEAR-AID - repairs tears and holes IN ALMOST ANYTHING! UK Seller

    Are you sure this advice hasn't been given already. Make sure to do a thorough read of every word in the thread before responding. Otherwise a sh*t storm will insue via the OP.
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    ShooGoo (Goop) is wonderful stuff, and was suggested early. It is like a super-tough silicone, very tenacious. Put a solid button over the dried hole.

    (I also concur w the chemist. And that said I would go a mile further, and put a swipe inside, for me. But the outside dollop is probably enough.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OGWGFIWRT View Post
    I only read you had tried a vinyl patch. No mention of a waterbed patch that I could find. Apologies if I missed it.

    There are polyurethane patches made out of polyurethane for other materials and patches made to patch polyurethane (waterbed for instance). The adhesive has to be made to stick to polyurethane.

    Anyway good luck. You're putting way more effort into it than most would.
    Sorry I was under the impression that waterbed patches were vinyl patches. I went to my local Canadian Tire store, asked for a waterbed patch and used that. Thanks for the additional info re: Polyurethane patches and adhesives. That could be the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tangaroo View Post
    But I would use super glue and a patch kit. Any chemicals that would leak into the water would be such a low concentration that it will not have any adverse effect on you. Believe me, the plant I work at, we make Food dyes, and you'd be pretty uneasy if you knew the stuff that was in the food you eat. But its at such a low concentration there is no reaction with anything in your body. Of course it all gets certified through the FDA, but any impurities must be below a certain spec. Anyways, basically what I'm getting at, is using super glue or any resin in a small amount will not effect you in any way.
    Yes, I agree with you. I don't think that with such a small concentration, anything seriously adverse will happen. I am a health professional and I think our bodies have a certain capability have handling things..
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbikej View Post
    So stop worrying about roughing up too much.......what is the worst that happens? At thi point it is not usable.......if you rough it up too much and the patch doesn't work.....it is still unusable.

    Seems to be waaaaaayyyyy too much effort going into this.
    The difference is that if I am careful with how I do the patch work, I can maybe fix the small pinhole leak. But if I am careless and make a bigger hole, then it would be wrecked to a greater degree which would make repair unfeasible anymore.

    Like I said, I'm just doing it for fun and I'm not really stressing about whether or not I eventually fix it. It's an extra reservoir. I'm just of the opinion that if I can fix something rather than throwing it away, then I can make good use of it. Just because I am on the forums typing a few posts here and there, used an inner tube to patch it once, and then went to a store to buy another type of patch and then try to use that.. all in all, I don't think I've put "waaaaayyyy too much effort". I guess some people are just less industrious than I am with certain things..
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    Have you done so successfully yourself? If not, then are you stupid as well? If you like to side with Dirtbag there and be ignorant too then go right ahead. The "stupid" comment was in a different context and if you don't see how that applies, then I guess you are even more stupid...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halfstep View Post
    You can use Tear-aid. For Polyurethane, you need to use type A.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Are you sure this advice hasn't been given already. Make sure to do a thorough read of every word in the thread before responding. Otherwise a sh*t storm will insue via the OP.
    Boy, you really have poor comprehension eh? Never gave you or anyone shi!t for repeating a suggestion that was already given. You asked me to summarize what I have already done because you were too lazy to scroll up and get the information you just asked for, which I had just typed a few posts back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grandsalmon View Post
    ShooGoo (Goop) is wonderful stuff, and was suggested early. It is like a super-tough silicone, very tenacious. Put a solid button over the dried hole.

    (I also concur w the chemist. And that said I would go a mile further, and put a swipe inside, for me. But the outside dollop is probably enough.)
    Thanks. You mean like a shirt button? Just use it like a patch? I don't know if I'd wanna swipe it inside, seems like unnecessary extra exposure of the water to the glue. But if it hardens up well enough, then it probably won't leech anything into the water.
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    Just make sure you go beyond the hole by 1/2 inch, 1/8 thick smear minimum, and immediately place away -flat, for 24hrs so it will dry flat and smooth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Boy, you really have poor comprehension eh? Never gave you or anyone shi!t for repeating a suggestion that was already given. You asked me to summarize what I have already done because you were too lazy to scroll up and get the information you just asked for, which I had just typed a few posts back.
    I managed to scroll up far enough to be quite impressed with your name calling. Your attitude is of a constipated 95 year old man. So far you have managed to call me stupid ignorant and insulted my screen name as dirtbag. Then you proceed to call Magura ignorant and stupid as well. What could one expect from such a huge problem solving brain as yours. Hell it's only been 10 days of a pin sized bladder hole obsession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    I managed to scroll up far enough to be quite impressed with your name calling. Your attitude is of a constipated 95 year old man. So far you have managed to call me stupid ignorant and insulted my screen name as dirtbag. Then you proceed to call Magura ignorant and stupid as well. What could one expect from such a huge problem solving brain as yours. Hell it's only been 10 days of a pin sized bladder hole obsession.
    Cheers!
    I came to the forum to ask for suggestions from other people who might have had a successful experience with the same situation. From what I have seen from participating in forums, a lot of people do the same -- that is, come to the forum seeking advice. Is it obsession when someone wants to ask for advice? I've tried two methods since and have indicated that they didn't work. Hardly obsessive at all. It's not like I've labored for days on end to try and fix this.

    If my attitude is of a constipated 95 year old man then your attitude is of an incontinent 100 year old woman with Chron's disease and soiling yourself every couple hours. Wait, I've only called you stupid and ignorant? My apologies for not being so thorough. You are also a moron and an imbecile and a c0cksucker.

    So Magura jumps up to defend you and now you're doing the same. Hmm.. butt buddies I suppose? If that's your thing then to each his own I guess..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    I came to the forum to ask for suggestions from other people who might have had a successful experience with the same situation. From what I have seen from participating in forums, a lot of people do the same -- that is, come to the forum seeking advice. Is it obsession when someone wants to ask for advice? I've tried two methods since and have indicated that they didn't work. Hardly obsessive at all. It's not like I've labored for days on end to try and fix this.

    If my attitude is of a constipated 95 year old man then your attitude is of an incontinent 100 year old woman with Chron's disease and soiling yourself every couple hours. Wait, I've only called you stupid and ignorant? My apologies for not being so thorough. You are also a moron and an imbecile and a c0cksucker.

    So Magura jumps up to defend you and now you're doing the same. Hmm.. butt buddies I suppose? If that's your thing then to each his own I guess..
    Wow that's not much of an apology little Jon Jon. Perhaps you should read the posting guide line. Thou shall not call others names
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Wow that's not much of an apology little Jon Jon. Perhaps you should read the posting guide line. Thou shall not call others names
    Thou shall not walk into another posters fist face first.
    Thou shall not hide behind a keyboard when they have no idea what they are getting into.
    Thou shall act in a civilized manner when asked a simple question.
    Thou shall develop a sense of humor.
    Thou shall pull ones stick out of ones ass before typing a response.
    Thou shall not go onto mtbr in complete coma as to how the world operates.
    Thou shall try to act in a civilized way and double check ones post before suba
    Thou shall not accuse others of being in cahoots when they have never met
    Who said I was apologizing? Walk into another posters fist face first? LOL Hide behind a keyboard? LOL

    Here's what I think of your "commandments". -- .l.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Have you done so successfully yourself? If not, then are you stupid as well? If you like to side with Dirtbag there and be ignorant too then go right ahead. The "stupid" comment was in a different context and if you don't see how that applies, then I guess you are even more stupid...
    Yes I have done so successfully.

    ....and yes, I sure side with Dirtjunkie, since you can't behave yourself.

    You come here asking for help, so how about just a tad humility towards those whom chips in?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    Yes I have done so successfully.

    ....and yes, I sure side with Dirtjunkie, since you can't behave yourself.

    You come here asking for help, so how about just a tad humility towards those whom chips in?

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    A tad humility towards those *who chip ("Whom" is used for the object of the sentence, "who" for the subject. "Those" is plural so you use the plural form of the verb, which is "chip") in? All that you and Dirtbag contributed was ignorance and stupidity. I was never rude to anybody else who had valuable contribution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    I came to the forum to ask for suggestions from other people who might have had a successful experience with the same situation. From what I have seen from participating in forums, a lot of people do the same -- that is, come to the forum seeking advice. Is it obsession when someone wants to ask for advice? I've tried two methods since and have indicated that they didn't work. Hardly obsessive at all. It's not like I've labored for days on end to try and fix this.

    If my attitude is of a constipated 95 year old man then your attitude is of an incontinent 100 year old woman with Chron's disease and soiling yourself every couple hours. Wait, I've only called you stupid and ignorant? My apologies for not being so thorough. You are also a moron and an imbecile and a c0cksucker.

    So Magura jumps up to defend you and now you're doing the same. Hmm.. butt buddies I suppose? If that's your thing then to each his own I guess..
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    A tad humility towards those *who chip ("Whom" is used for the object of the sentence, "who" for the subject. "Those" is plural so you use the plural form of the verb, which is "chip") in? All that you and Dirtbag contributed was ignorance and stupidity. I was never rude to anybody else who had valuable contribution.
    No just a constant influx of insults toward me that's all. Backtrack the posts and you will see all I did was ask you a simple question. "OP so what's your progress and what have you tried" you respoond back calling out insults because I missed what you have tried. All I asked for was an overview post from you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    No just a constant influx of insults toward me that's all. Backtrack the posts and you will see all I did was ask you a simple question. "OP so what's your progress and what have you tried" you respoond back calling out insults because I missed what you have tried. All I asked for was an overview post from you.
    Yeah, no... that's not how you said it. You said,

    "Jon the OP so what's the hold up? It's obvious you're dead set on fixing it. There are numerous suggestions on how to patch it. And It's been what a week now. Have you tried anything yet? Wouldn't it be less hassle to just toss it"

    And only three posts above yours I said:

    "Vinyl Patch not working. I feel like it's just because I'm not roughing up the surface enough for fear of tearing right through the rubber. I might try some really sticky clear tape. Someone suggested Helicopter tape. We'll see how that works."

    You don't see how incredibly rude and annoying you came off?
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    Let's see, how is it problem solving generally works......

    Problem: Hole in bag.

    Define base material.

    Define adhesion properties of different adhesives on said material.

    Adhesive properties turns out to be less than adequate

    Define alternatives

    For said material only suitable low tech alternative = welding

    Define type of welding that suits properties of previously defined material.

    Weld on patch

    Problem solved.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Yeah, no... that's not how you said it. You said,

    "Jon the OP so what's the hold up? It's obvious you're dead set on fixing it. There are numerous suggestions on how to patch it. And It's been what a week now. Have you tried anything yet? Wouldn't it be less hassle to just toss it"

    And only three posts above yours I said:

    "Vinyl Patch not working. I feel like it's just because I'm not roughing up the surface enough for fear of tearing right through the rubber. I might try some really sticky clear tape. Someone suggested Helicopter tape. We'll see how that works."

    You don't see how incredibly rude and annoying you came off?
    If you are going to quote me do it accurately. You forgot to add in the little dude winking at you. That was called sarcasm, I tossed in the comment to toss it like many have suggested and added the winky dude to let you know it was off the cuff. After that comment you started in with the insults. I came back still in a joking manner asking for a recap of your progress. You could have simply posted a recap. But you continued to insult and call out names. Here is my exact quote including the little dude winking at you. This was the quote that sent you into this raging insulting lunatic. Which I continued to try to bring you on board with the scarcasm. My quote was this.....
    Jon the OP so what's the hold up? It's obvious you're dead set on fixing it. There are numerous suggestions on how to patch it. And It's been what a week now. Have you tried anything yet? Wouldn't it be less hassle to just toss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Yeah, no... that's not how you said it. You said,

    "Jon the OP so what's the hold up? It's obvious you're dead set on fixing it. There are numerous suggestions on how to patch it. And It's been what a week now. Have you tried anything yet? Wouldn't it be less hassle to just toss it"

    And only three posts above yours I said:

    "Vinyl Patch not working. I feel like it's just because I'm not roughing up the surface enough for fear of tearing right through the rubber. I might try some really sticky clear tape. Someone suggested Helicopter tape. We'll see how that works."

    You don't see how incredibly rude and annoying you came off?
    If you are going to quote me do it accurately. You forgot to add in the little dude winking at you. That was called sarcasm, I tossed in the comment to toss it like many have suggested and added the winky dude to let you know it was off the cuff. After that comment you started in with the insults. I came back still in a joking manner asking for a recap of your progress. You could have simply posted a recap. But you continued to insult and call out names. Here is my exact quote including the little dude winking at you. This was the quote that sent you into this raging insulting lunatic. Which I continued to try to bring you on board with the scarcasm. My quote was this.....
    Jon the OP so what's the hold up? It's obvious you're dead set on fixing it. There are numerous suggestions on how to patch it. And It's been what a week now. Have you tried anything yet? Wouldn't it be less hassle to just toss it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    If you are going to quote me do it accurately. You forgot to add in the little dude winking at you. That was called sarcasm, I tossed in the comment to toss it like many have suggested and added the winky dude to let you know it was off the cuff. After that comment you started in with the insults. I came back still in a joking manner asking for a recap of your progress. You could have simply posted a recap. But you continued to insult and call out names. Here is my exact quote including the little dude winking at you. This was the quote that sent you into this raging insulting lunatic. Which I continued to try to bring you on board with the scarcasm. My quote was this.....
    Jon the OP so what's the hold up? It's obvious you're dead set on fixing it. There are numerous suggestions on how to patch it. And It's been what a week now. Have you tried anything yet? Wouldn't it be less hassle to just toss it.
    Oh so the winky thing got missed by my highlighting, whoop dee doo! I don't give a rat's a$$ if you were winking. The fact that you were being sarcastic, and admitting it, is annoying to me. And talk about being accurate. I did not proceed to insult you right away. I responded with, "Have you read the entire thread?" which was my way of suggesting to you to read the entire thread, which at that point was not even two full pages, and you would've gotten the update you wanted. But no, you were like "I'm not gonna scroll up three posts back to read what the OP just typed a few hours ago, I'm gonna be a jacka$$ and insist that he retype everything that he just typed because I'm a lazy fuking a$$hole."
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Oh so the winky thing got missed by my highlighting, whoop dee doo! I don't give a rat's a$$ if you were winking. The fact that you were being sarcastic, and admitting it, is annoying to me. And talk about being accurate. I did not proceed to insult you right away. I responded with, "Have you read the entire thread?" which was my way of suggesting to you to read the entire thread, which at that point was not even two full pages, and you would've gotten the update you wanted. But no, you were like "I'm not gonna scroll up three posts back to read what the OP just typed a few hours ago, I'm gonna be a jacka$$ and insist that he retype everything that he just typed because I'm a lazy fuking a$$hole."
    Someone needs some anger management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1of4Horsemen View Post
    Someone needs some anger management.

    Well after three pages of bullshi!t from this guy - Dirtbag, who wouldn't be irritated? I'm not angry, just irritated..Did you see any CAPS or exclamation points?

    I just talk like this normally..cussing and what not..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Oh so the winky thing got missed by my highlighting, whoop dee doo! I don't give a rat's a$$ if you were winking. The fact that you were being sarcastic, and admitting it, is annoying to me. And talk about being accurate. I did not proceed to insult you right away. I responded with, "Have you read the entire thread?" which was my way of suggesting to you to read the entire thread, which at that point was not even two full pages, and you would've gotten the te you wanted. But no, you were like "I'm not gonna scroll up three posts back to read what the OP just typed a few hours ago, I'm gonna be a jacka$$ and insist that he retype everything that he just typed because I'm a lazy fuking a$$hole."
    Hey Jackwagon <<< Look I can insult on par with you. When you responded "did you read the entire thread?" Would it have been too difficult to include read three posts up. Instead you launch into a insulting raging lunitic outburst. That is after 24 hours you are still in that state of mind I'm sorry but it's not my fault your therapist went on vacation. Perhaps next time you should suggest or demand that he have a stand in Dr. next time he takes a vacation. At the very least be sure he supplys you with an adequate amount of your prescription drugs that you have obviously not been taking per doctors orders.
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    Oh so the winky thing got missed by my highlighting, whoop dee doo! I don't give a rat's a$$ if you were winking. The fact that you were being sarcastic, and admitting it, is annoying to me. And talk about being accurate. I did not proceed to insult you right away. I responded with, "Have you read the entire thread?" which was my way of suggesting to you to read the entire thread, which at that point was not even two full pages, and you would've gotten the te you wanted. But no, you were like "I'm not gonna scroll up three posts back to read what the OP just typed a few hours ago, I'm gonna be a jacka$$ and insist that he retype everything that he just typed because I'm a lazy fuking a$$hole."
    Hey Jackwagon <<< Look I can insult on par with you. When you responded "did you read the entire thread?" Would it have been too difficult to include read three posts up. Instead you launch into a insulting raging lunitic outburst. That is after 24 hours you are still in that state of mind I'm sorry but it's not my fault your therapist went on vacation. Perhaps next time you should suggest or demand that he have a stand in Dr. next time he takes a vacation. At the very least be sure he supplys you with an adequate amount of your prescription drugs that you have obviously not been taking per doctors orders.
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    If my attitude is of a constipated 95 year old man then your attitude is of an incontinent 100 year old woman with Chron's disease and soiling yourself every couple hours. Wait, I've only called you stupid and ignorant? My apologies for not being so thorough. You are also a moron and an imbecile and a c0cksucker.

    So Magura jumps up to defend you and now you're doing the same. Hmm.. butt buddies I suppose? If that's your thing then to each his own I guess..
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    Sorry I was under the impression that waterbed patches were vinyl patches. I went to my local Canadian Tire store, asked for a waterbed patch and used that. Thanks for the additional info re: Polyurethane patches and adhesives. That could be the issue.
    So you're Canadian? Do you realize that you shouldn't be genetically able to be mean? Everyone knows that Canadians lack the mean-gene. If you truly have that gene, you should look up the X-Men. They love to have mutants like you, though I'm not sure they take in mean ones.

    In any case, you should apologize to Mr. DIRTJUNKIE and Mr. Mr.Magura and everyone else. We're seriously just trying to help.

    Have you talked to Mr. Jeep bike guy? He was really good at taking things much too far with cheap items that warranted replacement, rather than repair. You should look him up.

    The only difference between you and Jeep guy is that he was simply ignorant of what he was doing, and you're an annoying douchebag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE, View Post
    Hey Jackwagon <<< Look I can insult on par with you. When you responded "did you read the entire thread?" Would it have been too difficult to include read three posts up. Instead you launch into a insulting raging lunitic outburst. That is after 24 hours you are still in that state of mind I'm sorry but it's not my fault your therapist went on vacation. Perhaps next time you should suggest or demand that he have a stand in Dr. next time he takes a vacation. At the very least be sure he supplys you with an adequate amount of your prescription drugs that you have obviously not been taking per doctors orders.
    Calling me Jackwagon is insulting on par with me? Damn you're weak. A little better on the therapist bit, albeit, overplayed. Nice try though. Maybe you're from the states and that might be why you think that when doctors go on vacation, they don't have someone on-call for them. Or you could just be plain incorrect. Anyway, I love being Canadian and having socialized health care and if I did have a therapist and if he was away on vacation, there would automatically an on-call doctor if I needed more meds. Again, nice attempt on the scenario regardless. In any case, I don't know why I'm still talking to you. I tried to clue you in on your stupidity but I guess it's hard to get through a brick wall. You think I'm rude, I think you're an idiot. Case closed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erik1245 View Post
    So you're Canadian? Do you realize that you shouldn't be genetically able to be mean? Everyone knows that Canadians lack the mean-gene. If you truly have that gene, you should look up the X-Men. They love to have mutants like you, though I'm not sure they take in mean ones.

    In any case, you should apologize to Mr. DIRTJUNKIE and Mr. Mr.Magura and everyone else. We're seriously just trying to help.

    Have you talked to Mr. Jeep bike guy? He was really good at taking things much too far with cheap items that warranted replacement, rather than repair. You should look him up.

    The only difference between you and Jeep guy is that he was simply ignorant of what he was doing, and you're an annoying douchebag.
    Thanks for the stereotype. Maybe because I wasn't born here, I'm a naturalized Canadian. The X-men bit needs a bit of work. Don't quit your day job and keep the stand up gigs for moonlighting. Why should I apologize to Dirtbag and his butt buddy? And to everyone else? For what? Here's my apology = .l.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    Thanks for the stereotype. Maybe because I wasn't born here, I'm a naturalized Canadian. The X-men bit needs a bit of work. Don't quit your day job and keep the stand up gigs for moonlighting. Why should I apologize to Dirtbag and his butt buddy? And to everyone else? For what? Here's my apology = .l.
    Your apology would probably work better if it was anatomically correct. Something like this...



    Also, I have a friend who's from Ontario. Giving Canadian people crap for being Canadian (in a joking manner) is part of my calling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erik1245 View Post
    Your apology would probably work better if it was anatomically correct. Something like this...



    Also, I have a friend who's from Ontario. Giving Canadian people crap for being Canadian (in a joking manner) is part of my calling.
    Or like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon777 View Post
    I came to the forum to ask for suggestions from other people who might have had a successful experience with the same situation. From what I have seen from participating in forums, a lot of people do the same -- that is, come to the forum seeking advice. Is it obsession when someone wants to ask for advice? I've tried two methods since and have indicated that they didn't work. Hardly obsessive at all. It's not like I've labored for days on end to try and fix this.

    If my attitude is of a constipated 95 year old man then your attitude is of an incontinent 100 year old woman with Chron's disease and soiling yourself every couple hours. Wait, I've only called you stupid and ignorant? My apologies for not being so thorough. You are also a moron and an imbecile and a c0cksucker.

    So Magura jumps up to defend you and now you're doing the same. Hmm.. butt buddies I suppose? If that's your thing then to each his own I guess..










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