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    Do you pack heat while on the trail?

    My friend was chased by a bear a few weeks ago on the trail.....he out ran the beast on his bike but I'm thinking a 9mm would have been suffice. And what about a cougar?

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    I always carry a benchmade skirmish wherever I go, riding or not. It comes in handy, and could be used as self defense if I needed to. But carrying a gun? I dunno. Dont get me wrong I love guns and am a big gun activist. I just dont really see the point unless you are maybe going on a multiday ride out in the sticks. even then i'd prob just buy a small can of bear mace...

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    I live in a small remote high desert town in Arizona. I carry pepper spray, mainly because I don't own any guns anymore. I don't ride alone, always with at least one other person, it's allot safer that way, IMO. Having any kind of close contact with a mountain lion, scares the _____ out of me, or a Mexican Grey Wolf, or a pack of coyotes or wild dogs. I can see the need for a gun in certain situations, I've lived in the high desert since the 70's, and thankfully never had the need for one. Now that we can carry concealed without a permit, I might get a gun down the road, maybe not.

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    and to the OP, ... yes I do...
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    there was a thread last year about this that quickly just spun out of control.

    but with that being said, i carry everywhere i legally can, period! i have been in a few situations where i really wish i had a gun before i started to carry, and a whole lot where i was very glad i had one on me. my kel-tec is just barley bigger than a cell phone, so there is no excuse not to carry it. but would i carry any of my bigger pistols while riding? hell no, but with a little pocket pistol its not a chore.

    wildlife where i live isn't a concern, but crazy cracked out bums are. the whole reason i got a conceal carry permit is to carry everywhere. but i have lived in a big city my whole life, where crime is something you really have to think about. if you are going to carry, do it legally!!!! i have no pity on people knowingly violating gun laws.
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    so there is no excuse not to carry it.
    Really???????
    I honestly think that this thinking is more the problem than the solution.

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    a gun the size of a cell phone?

    I hope you mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedpgt
    wildlife where i live isn't a concern, but crazy cracked out bums are. the whole reason i got a conceal carry permit is to carry everywhere. but i have lived in a big city my whole life, where crime is something you really have to think about. if you are going to carry, do it legally!!!! i have no pity on people knowingly violating gun laws.
    I should just punch you in the face and then you'd be able to see how effective that is.

    stoopid crazy cracked out bum!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalayon
    My friend was chased by a bear a few weeks ago on the trail.....he out ran the beast on his bike but I'm thinking a 9mm would have been suffice. And what about a cougar?
    Being a long time shooter I can tell you a 9mm would be very ineffective against a bear. It barely, pun intended, does the job against a human.

    http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/...p?f=72&t=33818

    http://www.foggymountain.com/handgun-bear-hunting.shtml

    Pictured below are some very effective handguns for use against a bear. The downside is they weigh a ton.


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    I always laugh at the "barely against a human" nonsense. That is such an american view too. In europe and asia, 9mm has long been considered a good people stopping caliber. It didn't get adopted as the main military sidearm caliber by a host of nations by accident.

    As to packing "heat", I have lots of ways to start a fire in my pack. Or attract the attention of passing aircraft, or of loudly deterring wildlife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
    I always laugh at the "barely against a human" nonsense. That is such an american view too. In europe and asia, 9mm has long been considered a good people stopping caliber.
    Americans are tougher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CS2
    Being a long time shooter I can tell you a 9mm would be very ineffective against a bear. It barely, pun intended, does the job against a human.

    http://www.nodakoutdoors.com/forums/...p?f=72&t=33818

    http://www.foggymountain.com/handgun-bear-hunting.shtml

    Pictured below are some very effective handguns for use against a bear. The downside is they weigh a ton.

    Yup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR
    Really???????
    I honestly think that this thinking is more the problem than the solution.
    Why all the hoplophobic hate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    Americans are tougher.
    I hadn't realised that fat could effectively absorb kinetic energy.

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    If fat doesn't, then inate stupidity apparently does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boostedpgt
    ............i carry everywhere i legally can, period! ........

    this

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    Quote Originally Posted by RIS
    Why all the hoplophobic hate?
    hoplophobia

    Irrational, morbid fear of guns
    Not really sure your sentence actually makes sense.
    Please keep in mind I am not American and so have no belief in your right to bear arms nonsense either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalayon
    My friend was chased by a bear a few weeks ago on the trail.....he out ran the beast on his bike.... And what about a cougar?
    Your friend is freakishly fast!

    Bears can run 40mph!

    You won't know the cougar is stalking you until it bites the back of your neck. You'd need to have the gun in your hand at all times.

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    Yea every few months the heat thread comes up.
    Bears are the least of my worries on the trail. It would take an amazing shot of a high caliber handgun to put a bear down. And the noise isnt going to make them run away.
    Besides what do I have to be paranoid about? People are generally good and trustworthy and wouldnt harm others. Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeEight
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