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    Do you carry a gun while riding?

    Licensed carriers I mean. Do you think it is a reasonable thing to have a firearm.

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    OMG are you serious???...
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    Maybe if I was riding the streets of Detroit. Or way, way deep in bear country. But bear spray would be the first line of defense.

    Yes, I have a CHL.

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    http://reviews.mtbr.com/blog/anti-mo...st-two-bikers/

    Anti Mountain Biking Fanatic Mike Vandeman Arrested for Assault with a Deadly Weapon Against Two Bikers

    Michael Joseph Vandeman was arraigned in court today. He is scheduled to re-appear in court Thursday with his legal counsel.

    Vandeman was arrested by UC Berkeley police last Friday May 28th for assault with a deadly weapon. The full police report is here: http://police.berkeley.edu/crimealer...52810-37NC.htm He was reported and arrested for carrying a handsaw and cutting one of the two bikers across the chest. This is not the first time such an incidence has been reported.

    Local news station KPIX Channel 5 covered the story and it ran in the local nightly news. Video is available here: http://cbs5.com/video/?id=65884

    The arraignment was at 2pm Wednesday and bail was reduced from $30,000 to $12,500. It is unknown at this time if bail has been posted. Pending contact with his lawyer, Vandeman is scheduled to reappear in court Thursday to enter his plea.

    Vandeman is a long time anti-mountain biking zealot who has been infamous in the SF-SJ Bay Area for decades. His campaign against mountain bikers dates back to the heyday of local cycling internet newsgroups.

    UC Berkeley police urge cyclists to come forward with any information on similar assaults. University of California Police Department Criminal Investigation Bureau: (510) 642-0472 from 8AM-5PM, or (510) 642-6760 all other times.

    Please help us spread awareness of these violent acts against cyclists of all categories.

    >>In an unrelated story, a Florida man stabbed two cyclists who were out on a holiday ride, this past weekend. More info on our sister site here: http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/bl...cal-condition/

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontplaynice
    Licensed carriers I mean. Do you think it is a reasonable thing to have a firearm.
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    Why is the idea of having a gun on you so offensive.

    Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idontplaynice
    Why is the idea of having a gun on you so offensive.

    Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it.
    Good lord, not another thread on this. Use the SEARCH function, this has been beaten to death over and over and over......... (hint, look in the recycle bin)

    And your quote at the end is more tiring than an overplayed Journey song.

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    Okay nevermind. I did a search and went through all the old threads. Didn't realize it's such a well-worn path around here.

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    I take it you all have never been a victim of violent crime. Two young men tried to rob me in Austin a couple of years ago. It was a sobering experience and made me realize it can happen to anyone anytime.

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    good luck with that

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    Many people shot and killed with guns are shot and killed with their own gun. Cops included.
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    I may or may not be a licensed carrier. I may or may not carry a gun while riding. I may or may not carry an excessive amount of adrenaline while riding.

    But usually I may or may not just carry my Kimber JPX.
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    I came down to ride the WISS (in Philly) and a HUGE Pit Bull (that the owner) could not control almost bit the **** out of my leg!!--I would have needed a 9mm to put him down If he got a hold of me. This dog went Crazy!! Like one of Michael Vick's dog's on the Attack!!

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    Absolutely!!!!! I refuse to be a victim of wither the 2 legged or 4 legged animals. My life is much more important that someone or something that thinks they need to take it away from me. It is a tool. Just like a knife to cut your steak or even a car to get you somewhere. If I need it I want to have it. Sure there are other things available but if something needs to be definately stopped you can bet your life that I will stop it before it hurts me or my family or friends.

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    How do you live with that much fear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nubster
    Many people shot and killed with guns are shot and killed with their own gun. Cops included.
    Whats many compared to those that are not?

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    If you can't pull, aim, and fire within five seconds.. it's completely pointless weight.
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    I'm all for firearms, the 2nd amendment as well as concealed or open carry. In fact shoot competitively in High Power cross the course and long range where I have earned a Master ranking.... the last thing I'd want to have on my while I'm riding my bike is a gun. I get nervous thinking what would happen if I crashed and my knife accidentally opened!

    Not to mention it's heavy.

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    Yep , 500 S&W for those pesky chipmonk's . Little fawkers running amok endangering mtber's with their rodent antics , running across the trails putting peoples lives in jeopardy . Then when you least expect it , lulled into complacency , they attack . Woods aren't safe as long as there is a single one left .

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    Carrying a gun in public is illegal in the UK so if we have a "situation" we just jolly well agree to disagree and have a cup of Tea


    If that fails we just kick the **** out of each other........then have afternoon Tea

    Wild animals don't mess with us as we're armed with a hot cup of Tea

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    I have never owned or even thought of owning a hand gun. Untill recently, a guy hiking one of the trails here in Prescott, AZ got eaten (yes eaten) by a couger. I rest my case

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibbo
    Carrying a gun in public is illegal in the UK so if we have a "situation" we just jolly well agree to disagree and have a cup of Tea


    If that fails we just kick the **** out of each other........then have afternoon Tea

    Wild animals don't mess with us as we're armed with a hot cup of Tea
    Well played sir. The only situation I'd consider carrying would be on my touring bike. I've run into some shady individuals in some desolate places.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZ.MTNS
    Yep , 500 S&W for those pesky chipmonk's . Little fawkers running amok endangering mtber's with their rodent antics , running across the trails putting peoples lives in jeopardy . Then when you least expect it , lulled into complacency , they attack . Woods aren't safe as long as there is a single one left .
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    oh yeah, all the time.

    I ride with one of these mounted to my handlebars.



    Those cursed deer standing in the middle of the trail. What will I ever do about them? Won't they ever learn?

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    Mostly when riding in urban environments, not so much on the trails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuffink
    How do you live with that much fear?
    I live off of fear.. in all reality, it is just something I'm prepared for. Do you wear a seatbelt r a helmet? I hope so. IF you do it isn't out of fear that you are going to have an accident. You do cause you wat to protect your self in case you do. It's just a simple tool to carry like a tire pump or patch kit "just in case" Hopefully I'll never need it but if I do, I'll live to tell about it.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk
    oh yeah, all the time.

    I ride with one of these mounted to my handlebars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikingsoul
    I have never owned or even thought of owning a hand gun. Untill recently, a guy hiking one of the trails here in Prescott, AZ got eaten (yes eaten) by a couger. I rest my case
    This would not have happened had he been armed with a strong hot cup of tea

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    a rough rendering of my bike...
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    Quote Originally Posted by idontplaynice
    >>In an unrelated story, a Florida man stabbed two cyclists who were out on a holiday ride, this past weekend. More info on our sister site here: http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/bl...cal-condition/
    Quote from the article:
    "Wright grabbed a spare tube for a bike tire and wrapped it around the first cyclistís wounds to try to stop the bleeding until rescue units arrived.

    ďYou can fix anything with a tube and a spoke,Ē Wright said."

    Good heads up thinking. I dislike roadies as much as the next guy, especially when they decide to form the peloton in the middle of public roads, but to stab somebody is pretty extreme.
    Now go home and get your ******* shinebox.

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    Recycle Bin so soon ? It was just getting interesting .

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    Bin Time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikingsoul
    I have never owned or even thought of owning a hand gun. Untill recently, a guy hiking one of the trails here in Prescott, AZ got eaten (yes eaten) by a couger. I rest my case
    You mean the guy who thinks one chased him and got a 2 in scratch (in addition to hurting his head when he fell down)?

    http://www.azfamily.com/news/Prescot...-95980829.html
    Now go home and get your ******* shinebox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibbo
    Carrying a gun in public is illegal in the UK
    Not true, let me expand;

    Pistols (guns with barrels less than 12" and OAL less than 24") are section 5 (basically illegal for anyone bar profession deer hunters and certain security personnel).

    Section 1 rifles and other things can be owned by applying for a fire arms certificate (FAC). You need a good, firm, provable reason to have the gun, and be a sensible law abiding subject. Self defence is not a good reason (in the eyes of the law).

    Air rifles under 12 foot pound energy don't have to have a certificate, anyone (not banned from holding a weapon) can own them.

    It is illegal to carry a rifle in public (air rifle or powder burner) without good and direct reason. This means travelling to your shooting place, club, ground etc.

    Shotguns can be owned by getting a shotgun certificate (SGC). You do not need to show good reason to own one, although the licensing section will usual press you for one at interview, so the requirements are more or less the same as for a FAC. You can, however, carry a shotgun in public without direct good reason per the letter of the law, although you may get charged with other offences if you pushed this. Again, self defence is not a good reason, and will get your guns taken off you if you expect it to be.

    So, for the UK, there are two basic points:

    1. You can't use guns for self defence.
    2. You need a good reason to be carrying them in public, plus the licence if applicable.

    All firearms offences carry a mandatory 5 year jail term.

    The only thing I carry on my bike at present is my air rifle or air pistol, to and from my air rifle club, 20 mile round trip two times a week. This is through the city centre, in a nice bag from http://www.eberlestock.com/ . I have not had any problems at all in many years doing this, and expect none. I would be in my rights to carry my other guns with this method, but they start to get too heavy plus the ranges are too far away plus I want to be focused on one thing and not tired by the time I get to the range, so I don't do that, but would be within my rights to do, obviously as long as I ensured the security of the guns themselves.

    Hope that clears things up from a UK perspective!

    My opinion of the US situation is it is quite polarized between those that like concealed carry and those that don't want it. I can see both sides of the argument, but I believe the stats show that concealed carry helps reduce crime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibbo
    Carrying a gun in public is illegal in the UK so if we have a "situation" we just jolly well agree to disagree and have a cup of Tea


    If that fails we just kick the **** out of each other........then have afternoon Tea

    Wild animals don't mess with us as we're armed with a hot cup of Tea
    Does that include soccer fans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    like this?
    How'd you find that picture of my bike?!?!?!?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk
    How'd you find that picture of my bike?!?!?!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by chas_martel
    Mostly when riding in urban environments, not so much on the trails.

    Considering there could be meth labs near my trails, the trails are not a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibbo
    Carrying a gun in public is illegal in the UK so if we have a "situation" we just jolly well agree to disagree and have a cup of Tea
    No, you Brits stab the hell out of each other to the point the government doesn't trust you with knives.





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    Quote Originally Posted by walangkatapat
    Does that include soccer fans?
    Soccer?

    Oh you mean FOOTBALL fans

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    Quote Originally Posted by rallyraid
    No, you Brits stab the hell out of each other to the point the government doesn't trust you with knives.
    Our Govt doesn't trust us with anything.We live in a nanny state.
    You can't even buy a kitchen knife from a supermarket without ID now
    As it's "illegal" to carry anything with a blade longer than 3" (or 75mm as we now have to say) it's also "cool" to do so which is why there's a problem.

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    Looks more like a squirrel to me!
    Either way, Mountainbike = 1/Squirrel =0.

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    Don't like guns?

    Don't have one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1SG
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    I'd be tempted to try a model 32 barrel in that weapon. Double Tap offers a 125 grain JHP loading in .357 SIG that is capable of 645 ft.lbs of muzzle energy. Within the context of handguns, that's got to be one of the better ways to turn a bad person into a good person.

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    Not allowed to carry handguns here in New Zealand :-(

    I didn't always live in this peaceful nuclear free little bit of paradise and sometimes i really miss that funny little CZ83 i used to carry everywhere.
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