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    Bush Sr is a pedophile

    Apparently. Has anyone sifted through the evidence on this one? i.e. the BBC documentary that got pulled (but leaked out on the net) called 'Conspiracy of Silence' and the Washington Post headline (that got pulled).

    I won't post links. You tell me whether you have looked into this one. It's the one where Larry King got sent down and several witnesses and 1 notable investigator died in unusual corcumstances.

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    Now, I'm not askign for details or anything like that but...

    ...you seem to have a lot invested in letting everyone know about this issue.

    Is there something you want to tell us?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie America
    ...you seem to have a lot invested in letting everyone know about this issue.

    Is there something you want to tell us?

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    Like what? I just have an interest in exploring what the Bush's are really about.

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    I've read some accounts of a woman who was "mind controlled" for years by Bush, starting as a very young girl. She alleged sexual abuse, lots of drugs, strange orgy parties. In her later years, she was a prostitute for "the Family" and an assasin. Of course, no one believes her. But her accounts have some merit and the level of detail she provides demonstrates a knowledge that only an insider could have. She discovered her past through regressive hypnotherapy

    Yes, I've heard those rumors of Bush Sr.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    I've read some accounts of a woman who was "mind controlled" for years by Bush, starting as a very young girl. She alleged sexual abuse, lots of drugs, strange orgy parties. In her later years, she was a prostitute for "the Family" and an assasin. Of course, no one believes her. But her accounts have some merit and the level of detail she provides demonstrates a knowledge that only an insider could have. She discovered her past through regressive hypnotherapy

    Yes, I've heard those rumors of Bush Sr.
    As a general rule, I wouldn't put much stock into any memory that was discovered through "regressive hypnotherapy".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruinane
    As a general rule, I wouldn't put much stock into any memory that was discovered through "regressive hypnotherapy".
    That's not what you told me last century.

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    Well, we use, what, 15% of our brain capacity? I'm sure there's plenty of other stuff up there.

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    James Hatfield

    Mr. Hatfield was the author of Fortunate Son, an unauthorized biography of George W. Bush. The book detailed Bush's cocaine use and cover up of a cocaine arrest. He was found Wednesday, July 18, in a motel room, an apparent suicide



    Mark Lombardi

    He was an accomplished conceptual artist who, while chatting on the phone with a banker friend about the Bush savings and loan scandal, started doodling a diagram and was inspired to create a complex series of drawings and sketches that charted the details of the scandal. According to the New York Times, "He was soon charting the complex matrices of personal and professional relationships, conflict of interest, malfeasance and fraud uncovered by investigations into the major financial and political scandals of the day; to keep facts and sources straight, he created a handwritten database that now includes around 12,000 3-by-5-inch cards."
    On the evening of March 22, 2000, Mark Lombardi was found hanging in his loft, an apparent suicide.



    Danny Casolaro

    He was working on a book that tied together the scandals surrounding the presidency of George H. W. Bush. He told his friends he was going to "bring back" the head of the Octopus. Instead, his body was found in a hotel in Martinsburg, West Virginia, on August 10, 1991, an apparent suicide.
    Steve Kangas

    His web site, Liberalism Resurgent, was meticulously researched and presented such a problem to the "real boss" of George Bush, Richard Scaife, that he hired a private detective to look into Kangas' past. Steve Kangas was found in a 39th-floor bathroom outside of Scaife's offices at One Oxford Centre, in Pittsburgh, an apparent suicide. Mr. Kangas, a very prolific writer, left no note. He had brought a fully-packed suitcase of clothes with him to Pittsburgh. He bought a burglar alarm shortly before he left for Pittsburgh. Why did he need a burglar alarm if he was going to commit suicide? An avowed advocate of gun control, he nevertheless bought a gun. What was he afraid of? Why did he go to Pittsburgh? After his death, his computer was sold for $150 and its hard drive wiped clean. Everything in his apartment was thrown away.

    Jake Horton

    He was the senior vice-president of Gulf Power, a subsidiary of Southern Company, a cohort of Enron in the energy industry, and a major contributer to the Bush agenda. According to reporter Gregory Palast, Horton knew of the company's appalling accounting practices, and "... had no doubt about its illegal campaign contributions to Florida politicans - he'd made the payments himself. In April of 1989 Horton decided to come clean with state officials, and reserved the company jet to go confront company officials. Ten minutes after takeoff the jet exploded.

    James Daniel Watkins

    His body was found on December 1, 2001 in the Pike National Forest in Colorado, a gunshot wound to the head. Mr. Watkins was a consultant for Arthur Andersen, the accounting firm for Enron. He disappeared on November 13 after he left work. He was described as a devoted family man who always called home if he were going to be late. Officials initially said that the death was suspicious, but have changed their tune and have ruled his death a suicide.

    Charles Dana Rice

    He was the senior vice president and treasurer of El Paso Corp., an energy corporation swept up in the recent energy scandal. Two months after the "suicide" of Enron executive Clifford Baxter, in the midst of questions about the accounting practices of El Paso Corp., Charles Rice was found dead of a gunshot wound to the head. His death was ruled a suicide.

    J. Clifford Baxter

    Found dead in his car, shot in the head. Mr. Baxter was vice chairman of Enron Corp. when he resigned in May 2001. Enron has been hot copy lately with the revelation that they were the largest campaign contributors for George W. Bush. Was J. Clifford Baxter a potential witness to Bush foreknowledge of their wrongdoings? His death was ruled a suicide.

    Katherine Smith

    She had been implicated in February in a phony documents scheme said to be related to the September 11 hijackers. One day before she was due in court, she was incinerated in her car after having hit a utility pole. An investigation revealed that the crash was minor and was not the cause of the fire that burned Smith beyond recognition. Who was really behind 9/11? Was Katherine Smith privy to that information? Why did she have to die, and who killed her?

    John O'Neill

    He was Director of Counterterrorism at the New York offices of the F.B.I. until he resigned in August 2001. One of the world's top experts on Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda, he grew to believe that "all the answers" regarding what they needed to destroy Al Qaeda lay in Saudi Arabia. However, starting in January 2001, Bush blocked all efforts by Mr. O'Neill to investigate Saudi ties to bin Laden. In the summer of 2001 O'Neill declared that the main obstacles to his investigation were U.S. oil interests.
    In late August, a frustrated O'Neill quit the FBI and took a position as head of security for the World Trade Center. From Democrats.com:

    September 11: On O'Neill's second day of work on the 34th floor, the WTC is hit by the first plane. O'Neill makes it out of the building safely, calls his son to say he is OK,. then goes into the other tower to help guide those still inside to safety. Minutes later, O'Neill, along with hundreds of others, is dead, killed by the terrorist the Bush administration refused to allow him to pursue to the best of his ability.


    Salem bin Laden

    In 1979 Bush business Arbusto Energy obtained financing from James Bath, a close family friend. Bath had extensive ties to BCCI and the bin Laden family. Bath was the sole U.S. business representative for Salem bin Laden, the brother of Osama bin Laden. It is well known in certain circles that the Arbusto money came straight from Salem bin Laden, although Bush denies it. Salem bin Laden died when for no apparent reason, he flew his airplane into power lines where it became entangled, and fell 150 feet to the ground. "He was a very experienced pilot. He was a good pilot. We just can't understand why he decided to go right instead of left," recalled airstrip owner Earl May field.

    Bob Stevens

    Mr. Stevens died of a mysterious case of anthrax. He worked as a photo editor for American Media, who owns the National Enquirer. The Bush family suffered enormous embarrassment at the hands of the Enquirer when they published a photo of daughter Jenna Bush, obviously intoxicated, cigarette in hand, cavorting on the floor with another drunken female.

    Governor Mel Carnahan

    In the midst of a heated race for the Senate against John Ashcroft, the Governor died in a plane crash on October 16, 2000. His death affected Democrats in two ways - it would hurt their chances of seizing control of the US Senate, and it would strongly impact the Presidential race between Al Gore and George W. Bush. Said St. Louis University political scientist Ken Warren, "There will be a sympathy vote, but that won't be enough to allow him to win. "I don't think the race will be very close. It's over." As we know now, Ashcroft lost to a dead man. Carnahan was elected by a landslide.

    Dan Rocco

    He died on April 1, 2002, in a plane crash in Gainesville, Georgia. He was an executive vice president at ChoicePoint, the firm that gained infamy with their faulty "felons" list supplied to Katherine Harris during the 2000 election in Florida. As a result of this list, thousands of voters (mostly African-American voters) were wrongly identified as felons and purged from the rolls.

    Karla Faye Tucker

    She was executed in spite of enormous protest from the public, even those religious groups that advocate the death penalty. Even Pat Robertson thought that Karla was truly repentant and asked George W. Bush to spare her life. He refused. Afterward, in a Talk Magazine interview, Bush mocked the woman whose death warrant he had sanctioned, pursing his lips and whimpering, "Please don't kill me!"

    Gary Graham

    Gary Graham was convicted of the robbery and murder of a white man in 1981. Nearly two weeks after the crime, the state's prime witness could not pick Gary's picture out of a photo line-up. Mr. Graham was arrested with a 22 caliber pistol. The victim had been killed with a 22, but the police firearms examiner determined that Mr. Graham's gun DID NOT fire the fatal bullet. Four witnesses said Gary Graham was with them, miles away from the convenience store, when the murder occured. All four took and passed polygraph tests. George W. Bush, predictably, expressed his faith in the Texas judicial system and allowed Mr. Graham to be put to death. Mr. Graham maintained his innocence to the end.

    William Casey
    William Casey was CIA Director during the Reagan/Bush Administration. He died 2 days before he was to testify about his and others' involvement in the Iran/Contra scandal.
    Charles M. McKee and Matthew Gannon
    Charles M. McKee, ostensibly a military attache for the DIA in Beirut, Matthew Gannon, CIA Deputy Station Chief in Beirut, and three others were on board Pan Am Flight 103, which exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland. They were part of a counterterrorist team in Beirut investigating the possible rescue of 9 American hostages in Lebanon. The McKee team uncovered evidence that a rogue CIA unit called COREA, based in Wiesbaden, was doing business with a man called Monzer Al-Kassar, a Syrian arms dealer and drug trafficker. Al-Kassar was part of the covert network run by U.S. Lieut. Colonel Oliver North. Outraged that the COREA unit in Wiesbaden was doing business with a Syrian who had close terrorist connections and might endanger their chances of rescuing the hostages, the McKee team decided to fly back to Virginia unannounced and expose the COREA unit's secret deal with al-Kassar. They never got there. "For three years, I've had a feeling that if Chuck hadn't been on that plane, it wouldn't have been bombed," said Beulah McKee, 75, Charles McKee's mother, to Time Magazine. Four months after her son was killed for his efforts to expose the CIA, Mrs. McKee received a sympathy letter from George H. W. Bush. Mrs. McKee has never been satisfied with the government's version of events.
    Don Aronow
    He was a close friend of George H. W. Bush. According to the book "George Bush, the Unauthorized Biography," there is compelling evidence to conclude that Aronow was a drug smuggler and suspected drug-money launderer. He was murdered by professional killers on February 3, 1987. In the days before his death, he made many personal calls to George H. W. Bush.
    Tommy Teagle, a man interviewed by author Thomas Burdick, was afraid of being murdered by Bush because he had knowledge that Aronow and Jeb Bush had been partners in cocaine trafficking.



    Amiram Nir
    He was a former Israeli agent who was in Jerusalem with George Bush during Iran Contra. He went under the assumed name of Pat Weber. Nir was scheduled to testify to the Senate subcommittee and it was feared he would reveal the truth. He perished when his aircraft was shot down with missiles from the helicopter of a man called Gene Tatum, 25-year CIA deep cover agent.
    Senator John Tower
    He was appointed by the Reagan/Bush Administration to chair the bipartisan committee to investigate the Iran/Contra scandals. He directed the Tower Report and had all the Iran Contra documents that told the real story. He was killed in an airplane crash later in Georgia in 1991. Also killed was his daughter, Marian.
    Mohammed Zia al-huk
    Dictator of Pakistan, and knew all about Iran/Contra, the training, funding, and arming of narco-terrorists like Osama bin Laden. In August 1988, the same day George Bush got the Republican nomination, his plane crashed into the ground with all engines running. The Pakistanis kept the bodies around (in violation of Islamic custom) for weeks, awaiting US experts. They showed up three weeks later and never checked the bodies. Why?
    Barry Seal
    He was supposedly murdered by Medellin cartel members, but a 6-month investigation by Sam Dalton, attorney for three of the accused murderers, into Mr. Seal's life and death uncovered some interesting points. The accused's cartel connections were well known, but not their association with Oliver North's enterprise. Mr. Seal was a drug smuggler, up to his armpits in smuggling cocaine for - guess who? - the CIA. During the penalty phase of the Columbians' trial, testimony by one government witness on the activities of Mr. Seal was so damaging to the government that 2 of the jurors wanted to change their verdict to "not guilty". The personal telephone number of George H. W. Bush was found in the trunk of Mr. Seal's car.


    William Colby
    This former CIA director disappeared in an apparent boating accident, and a body was later discovered (minus the life jacket Colby's friends insisted he always wore while boating) and buried promptly. John DeCamp, a lawyer from Lincoln, Nebraska, and Colby's close friend and confidant, said Colby's death was not an accident. He stated that Colby was prepared to disclose that missing P.O.W.'s were working for a dope smuggling operation orchestrated by General Colin Powell, Pentagon official Richard Armitage, and George H. W. Bush.


    John Fitzgerald Kennedy
    An internal FBI memo reported that on November 22 a reputed businessman named George H. W. Bush reported hearsay that a certain Young Republican had been talking of killing the President when he came to Houston. The Young Republican was nowhere near Dallas on that date. According to a 1988 story in The Nation, J. Edgar Hoover said in a memo that Mr. George Bush of the CIA had been briefed on November 23rd, 1963 about the reaction of anti-Castro Cuban exiles in Miami to the assassination of President Kennedy. George H. W. Bush has denied this, although he was in Texas and cannot account for his whereabouts at the time.
    George de Mohrenschildt
    A rich Russian oilman, he was described with his wife as being the two people friendliest to Oswald at the time of the assassination. De Mohrenschildt was the man who moved Oswald to Dallas. In the late 1970's, shortly before the first meeting of the House Select Committee on Assassinations, de Mohrenschildt started seeing a new doctor in town. He quickly became mentally unstable, at which time his wife convinced him to stop seeing the doctor. They moved away and left a false forwarding address. On the same day that the Committee tried to contact him about testifying, he was found dead of a gunshot wound. In his personal address book was the entry Bush, George H.W. (Poppy) and Zapata Petroleum Midland (the oil company owned by George H.W. Bush).


    Gary Caradori
    He was investigating Lawrence E. King, Jr., a very influential black Republican who was also a friend of George H.W. Bush. King was director of the Franklin Community Credit Union in Omaha, Nebraska, and was suspected of embezzling $40 million. The Nebraska Senate questioned child prostitutes, who accused King of running a child prostitution ring. One of these children said that she saw George H.W. Bush at one of King's parties. "Pronto", a newspaper in Barcelona, Spain, reported that the scandal "appears to directly implicate politicos of the state of Nebraska and Washington DC who are very close to the White House and George Bush himself". Gary Caradori claimed that he had evidence that supported these allegations. On July 11, 1990, Gary Caradori was killed along with his 6-year old son in the crash of his small plane, after a mid-air explosion, the cause of which was never discovered. He had told friends repeatedly in the weeks before his death that he was afraid his plane would be sabotaged.


    Orlando Letelier
    He was torn to bits by a car bomb on the streets of Washington DC just before he was to testify against the Chilean dictator Pinochet. After the bombing, CIA Director George H. W. Bush told the FBI that there had been no Chilean involvement whatsoever. In 1991 the post-Pinochet Chilean Supreme Court asked George H. W. Bush if he would submit to questioning. BUSH REFUSED.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik
    That's not what you told me last century.
    Yeah but if you'll remember, I told you that while you were in the womb. It's possible you misunderstood; even hypnosis can't correct for sound distortions caused by amniotic fluid.
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    Other than it's value as a political smear I don't really have that much concern about it. As far as someone wanting to push it, whether there is anything to it or not I say, knock yourselves out. If it helps get Bush (and his handlers) out of office, I'm all for it.

    However, as far as it being an issue with real meat to it, let alone one that could ever be proven, I don't put that much stock in it.

    The Bush's are guilty of far more relevent and heinous crimes to anyone willing to simply look at them.

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    Bush's folk must not have recieved the memo on the Whistleblowers act.... I'll be sure to send that and this should reduce the list of those crazy unexplained deaths.....

    There that does it for my good deed of the day........

    Kronik, can you post up some of your sources?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik
    Like what? I just have an interest in exploring what the Bush's are really about.
    Why don't you explore what the Windsors are really about?
    Something really clever, interesting or that some other genius said..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeQuest
    Why don't you explore what the Windsors are really about?
    They are related to Bush. Same elite genes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kronik
    They are related to Bush. Same elite genes.
    If you say so; however, one of the lines can be traced much farther back through time and that history is not all pretty. Some of the things done to create a situation where the sun never sets on England. Boy oh boy, now theres something you can spend some time researching.
    Something really clever, interesting or that some other genius said..

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmaki
    The Bush's are guilty of far more relevent and heinous crimes to anyone willing to simply look at them.
    exactly. No need to make crap up....It's right there
    on the kitchen table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimE
    exactly. No need to make crap up....It's right there
    on the kitchen table.
    The Nebraska Larry King/Whitehouse pedophilia ring isn't made up. It happened. What isn't clear is the extent of Bush's involvement. Some of the survivors talk of being buggered and one kid talks of having cattle prods shoved up him. Another talks of being ordered to bugger another boy, being buggered senseless by other men at..... Bohemian Grove. Only they didn't refer to it as Bohemian Grove. They just decribed it.

    John DeCamp is a credible source. He's also a republican.

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    Heck, Kronik, let them see some things...

    Quote Originally Posted by kronik
    The Nebraska Larry King/Whitehouse pedophilia ring isn't made up. It happened. What isn't clear is the extent of Bush's involvement. Some of the survivors talk of being buggered and one kid talks of having cattle prods shoved up him. Another talks of being ordered to bugger another boy, being buggered senseless by other men at..... Bohemian Grove. Only they didn't refer to it as Bohemian Grove. They just decribed it.

    John DeCamp is a credible source. He's also a republican.
    ....here is something I dug up http://www.spitfirelist.com/f318.html Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikeQuest
    Why don't you explore what the Windsors are really
    about?
    Maybe not because the Windsors are no longer seeking global domination as the Bush's are....?

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    I thought the Clinton list of mystery deaths seemed scarier...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    Well, we use, what, 15% of our brain capacity? I'm sure there's plenty of other stuff up there.
    This isn't a true statement.

    How well do you think you'd survive if we removed 85% of your brain? We might use only a small percentage for higher level behavior, but the rest doesn't just sit there to take up space.
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