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    The Bush/Clinton Dynasty

    THE BUSH-CLINTON DYNASTY

    By Pastor Chuck Baldwin

    July 17, 2007

    NewsWithViews.com

    A news item appeared in the Financial Times last Friday that received little notice. However, the hidden story behind this report is much deeper and more complex. The FT report stated: "John Mack, Morgan Stanley's chief executive, is to invite senior staff to a fundraiser for Hillary Clinton on Monday [yesterday], in a pointed endorsement of the Democratic presidential hopeful from an important backer of President George W. Bush in 2004.

    "Mrs. Clinton, a New York senator, is scheduled to appear at the fundraiser on the 41st floor of Morgan Stanley's headquarters in Times Square.

    "The minimum donation for the event is $1000 per person but Mr. Mack urged those attending to give $4,600, the maximum for the 2008 presidential campaign.

    "Mr. Mack surprised many on Wall Street in the spring when he said he and his wife, Christy, would support Mrs. Clinton's 2008 bid."

    John Mack is not the first Bush supporter to jump on the Hillary bandwagon. Neither will he be the last.

    That wealthy and influential supporters of G.W. Bush are now supporting Hillary Clinton only surprises those who have not been paying attention. For the rest of us, this is merely par for the course.

    The Bushes and Clintons go way back. They have been fast friends for decades. Only a closely guarded media cover up has hidden this fact from the general public.

    As you will recall, George H.W. Bush was President of the United States while William Jefferson Clinton was Governor of Arkansas. During this time, it was very common for the two families (along with G.W. Bush and Laura) to vacation together. This is well-known to those who are familiar with the two families.

    Yet, the connection between the Bushes and Clintons is much deeper than simple friendship. They share a deep socio-political alliance as well.

    Remember that it was President Bill Clinton who first proposed what came to be called the USA Patriot Act. Of course, he failed to convince a GOP Congress to approve the measure. However, G.W. Bush succeeded where Clinton failed. Remember, too, that it was President Bill Clinton who gave us NAFTA, something G.W. Bush has not only supported but expanded into the SPP and a burgeoning North American Community. Furthermore, both Bush and Clinton are major players in the push for amnesty for illegal aliens. And the list just goes on and on.

    Face it folks: the Bushes and Clintons are political soul mates. Therefore, why should it be surprising that many Bush supporters are now working for the Hillary Clinton campaign?

    To believe that the Bushes and Clintons are political and philosophical opponents is the height of absurdity. Both have the support and do the bidding of the international elite. Both families are imbedded in secret societies and globalist agendas. And mark my words, the Bushes will be working behind the scenes for a Hillary victory in 2008.

    I will even be so bold as to say that the Bushes and Clintons are as close as America has gotten to a crime family dynasty. If you are brave at heart, do a little personal research into the connection between these two families and the CIA's infamous "extra curricular" C-130 flights to Central and South America originating in and out of Mena, Arkansas back in the '90's.

    Barak Obama needs to pray he doesn't get too close to the Democratic nomination. And the American people need to pray for a "Great Awakening," because another four or eight years of the Bush-Clinton dynasty might turn this once-great constitutional republic into just another banana republic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckO

    Barak Obama needs to pray he doesn't get too close to the Democratic nomination. And the American people need to pray for a "Great Awakening," because another four or eight years of the Bush-Clinton dynasty might turn this once-great constitutional republic into just another banana republic.

    If this is indeed true, man, we could have a further 8 years of hillary, 8 of Jeb, 8 more of Bill again and then GWB for another 8. Thats 32 more years of incompetance on both sides added to the previous 20.

    Its a bad idea all the way around. Intelectual incest at its best.

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    Just goes to show what I've been saying about there being very little difference between the two parties. When the fatcats that were financing Bush turn around and start financing Hillary that should tell you something.

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    the Clintons lack the deep family history of the Bushs, otherwise I'd buy into that dynasty argument. If it were the Kennedys, it have some weight. But neither the Clintons, or the Rodhams have the aristocratic past necessary. In fact, though Bill gave away all the marbles (as my prof likes to say), we wasn't liked by the Washington elite, because he wasn't one of them; he was nouveau. Hillary is different, because she's been on the scene since Bill, putting her into some of the inner circles.

    The accusations may be correct, but this "family dynasty" reasoning is not. The clintons just don't have that past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Windjammer
    the Clintons lack the deep family history of the Bushs, otherwise I'd buy into that dynasty argument. If it were the Kennedys, it have some weight. But neither the Clintons, or the Rodhams have the aristocratic past necessary. In fact, though Bill gave away all the marbles (as my prof likes to say), we wasn't liked by the Washington elite, because he wasn't one of them; he was nouveau. Hillary is different, because she's been on the scene since Bill, putting her into some of the inner circles.

    The accusations may be correct, but this "family dynasty" reasoning is not. The clintons just don't have that past.
    The Bushs and the Clintons are just front men for the Rockefellers and associates (Standard OIL, Chase Manhattan Bank, The Reserve Bank, etc). It's just a tag team for the Ruling Elite. The Ruling Elite need traitors they can trust and have complete control over.
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    Please provide evidence that the Bush and Clinton families have vacationed together. I am not buying it. It is undeniable that both families work for the American ruling elite by prostituting their services to the highest bidder, but that makes them rivals for elite favor, not accomplices.

    I can't see Hillary building sandcastles on the beach with Laura, while Bill and George go off fishing together. sorry, It is simply not credible. What a simplistic conspiracy theory posting this is.

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    Do you remember this story? I sure do.


    On October 5, 1986 in Nicaragua, a CK123 Cargo plane, with weapons and CIA employees on board crashed. This was the beginning of what links what I am about to tell you together. This was the start of the Iran-Contra affair. It was proven that the weapons were supplied by the CIA and destined for the Nicaraguan Contras in of the Congressional Poland amendments. Special prosecutor Lawrence Walsh spent six years determining who in the Reagan administration was involved in the operation. Among those that were involved in this operation were George Bush, Oliver North, Dewey Clarridge, John Pointdexter and Caspar Weinberger.

    However, lets go to Mena, Arkansas during this time. The training of pilots and loading of weapons and drugs was taking place. Who was the governor of Arkansas at the time and why is is that Kenneth Starr would not touch this area. That governor at the time is now our President.

    In July 1994, in the Arkansas Crime Inc. paper, an editorial linked Clinton to Iran-Contra. In October, 1994 Clinton denied any knowledge of the operation at Mena. Shortly afterwards evidence started to surface that documented Clintonís link to Iran-Contra. People began coming forward and alleging under sworn statements that that Clinton profited from the operation at Mena by laundering money through the newly created Arkansas Development Finance Authority. That was just the tip of the iceberg regarding what was really going on at Mena. A larger number of people testified under oath that the airplanes returning from Central America were loaded with cocaine, which was then dropped over Arkansas for distribution to larger U.S. cities.

    During 1995, mounting documented evidence continued to support the Mena claims. A KGB spy talks about his knowledge of Mena. The picture of the Mena operation became more clear. In July 1995, new information and evidence confirms drug smuggling is going on at Mena. Why? Because a State Trooper L.D. Brown and a Arkansas National Guardsmen, who were also pilots flying the planes put Clinton in the loop by testifying. In July 1995, Clinton responded to L.D. Brownís account with denial. Weíve heard that before. In October, 1995 in formal hearings, now a former State Trooper, L.D. Brown elaborates in great detail, on his flights to Central America in the service of the CIA, on Clinton's link to the CIA. He also details the negative treatment he received from the American press. In August, 1996, Noriega attacks George Bush on Contra Drug dealing. And who is Barry Seal? ( read the article by Daniel Hopsicker for Washington Weekly ) How could this go on for years without detection? In February, 1995, the Washington Post is accused of a grand scale political coverup of the Mena affair. However, a statement issued by Arkansas Supreme Court Justice Jim Johnson at this time reveals government efforts to block investigations of the Mena affair and investigations of Clinton's fraudulent Whitewater loans, and explains how business interests, news media, politicians, and courts in Arkansas manage to block the truth from coming out. Who is Terry Reed? Terry Reed describes how CNN concocted an interview with him, misquoting him all over place. In June, 1995, the Washington Post suppresses another story about the Mena investigations. In November, 1996, Caspar Weinberger is accused of participation in the Iran-Contra affair. However, prior to that in December, 1995, documents prove that the U.S. Government pressured Costa Rica to keep the Mena operations secret. Who Is Richard Ben-Veniste?

    During this time, a Democrat Panel on money laundering, indicts brother of Mike Espy for money laundering. And the State Department accuses Noreiga of taking drug money.

    This is where Terry Reed comes into the picture I mentioned earlier. Terry Reed testifies. Terry Reed is a pilot and a subcontractor who worked for the CIA Iran-Contra operation. When he discovered that drugs were shipped to the U.S., ( the MENA operators) he left the operation in disgust. He soon found himself and his family the target of a retaliation lawsuit claiming insurance fraud. However, the Reed family was cleared of the allegations in federal court in Wichita, Kansas. Shortly thereafter, the Reed family filed a civil suit against those who had brought the wrongful suit against them. And here folks is where it gets really interesting. Two employees of Bill Clinton, Buddy Young and Tommy Baker were charged with fabrication of evidence and other civil rights violations against the Reedís. Now this is where is gets even more interesting. In September, 1995 Buddy Young is linked to the Iran-Contra/Mena operation. Clinton's former security chief, now a defendant in Reed's Mena trial, appears to have been more involved than previously known. After years of a legal circus, the lawsuit by the Reed family finally began in earnest in late1995. Depositions were taken from a number of people and they all told the same story under oath. They also revealed that U.S. senators (both parties) tried to block investigations into money laundering at Mena. All of these witnesses have sufferedharassment and intimidation because of their explosive testimony. In early 1996, the judge in the case ruled to suppress all evidence relating to Mena, CIA, and the Clintons from the trial. Reed discouraged at this point, gave up and dropped the trial. One honest policeman, Russell Welch supplied much of the material and proof of the Mena case, he too has suffered harassment and intimidation. Who is Julius "Doc" Delaughter. It is December, 1995. Delaughter appears on a British Mena documentary, telling about the whole Mena operation, however it is banned from distribution in the U.S. Remember Barry Seal, ( read the article by Daniel Hopsicker for Washington Weekly ), he comes out of the closet too. Also a certain lady is found in Florida connecting all this. In April, 1996, there is a massive Anthrax poisoning case in Mena and in August, 1996, State Trooper L.D. Brown is ordered to assassinate Terry Reed. And the CIA begins an investigation, (interesting, they are investigating their own operation?) of the Mena operation. The White House is asked about it, and they deny everything. At this same time, Reed drops the lawsuit and the murder of two teenage boys, Don Henry and Kevin Ives occurs in Benton, a town near Mena. Due to persistent parents and a few honest Arkansas policemen, their murders are traced back to the drug smuggling operations at Mena. A British documentary exposes the murders and the link to Mena. No U.S. major news network picks this story up.

    It is now July, 1996, Kenneth Starr begins asking questions about Mena. He follows the trail of facts, but suddenly announces that Mena is outside his brief and scope of just the Whitewater investigation of Clinton.

    In the fall of 1995, several committees in the House of Representatives began considering holding hearings about the Mena operation and started interviewing witnesses. To this date, this hearing has never finished and they have not called any more witnesses.

    Remember Dan Lasater above, he testifies in May, 1996 before the Whitewater Committee about his the Whitewater/Clinton mess. Now, during this time we have the Bosnia war going on and the CIA is backing and sending guns there. Is this a repeat of the Iran-Contra affair with drugs? In the fall of 1996, events took an amazing turn. The San Jose Mercury News reported on a drug trial in Los Angeles where informants testified that they had sold drugs to LA street gangs in order to finance the CIA-backed Contra war in Nicaragua in the 1980s. The drugs came from the Mena, Arkansas operations they testified. The story grabbed the headlines and incited the black community. It was soon realized that what was seen in Los Angeles was just another tentacle of what had already been uncovered in Mena, Arkansas. Now the CIA, the Justice Department, Congress and the White House were all asked for explanations. Mushrooming beyond control, the Mena scandal had finally reached the headlines of the mainstream media a decade after the events took place. September, 1996 CIA Director Deutch resigns. Also there are reports of the U.S. Government involved with Bolivian cocaine lab. There are a string of murders of Americans surrounding the lab in Bolivia. Senator Barbara Boxer, California, writes a letter to CIA Director John Deutch demanding all truth of events. He responds negatively. Senator Diane Feinstein write a letter tp Attorney General Janet Reno requesting a full investigation and Senator Mazxine Waters
    ( read the response she received back ) request for hearings to Chairman Henry Hyde. This was September, 1996 folks and to date, nothing has been done regarding this matter. Why? Because I believe this has been the greatest government cover-up that has ever occurred. The reason, both parties are up to their ears with the Mena affair and Clinton. When you contact any of the elected officials about this, they have no comment.

    Iíve supplied the information to you folks, which I bet you did not know. If you donít believe me, make a few phone calls to Washington and see how quickly the doors are shut on you concerning the Mena affair. I wonder how many will start to inquire about this with their elected officials? NO ONE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT! And why? Both parties have a great deal to hide. And why hasn't Hyde done anything more about the hearings since 1995? Hoping it will just go away. And Hyde is the current Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee? What I believe is so ironic is we have a President of the United States being investigated, but who is investigating the investigators? Personally, I have lost not only all trust in President Clinton, but also our elected body in Washington. There is more than one politician here that is lying! We have had not only a witch hunt attacking Clinton, the attackers have a great deal to hide themselves. And I strongly believe that there is more to this whole affair than any of us will ever know. There will be those that will say I am trying to darken the waters, attack Clinton on another issue. That is not the case. I am presenting this to you to show you that we better start asking more questions and not only demanding the answers from our elected officials in Washington but getting them. Who works for whom here? Are they not suppose to be working for us? Sure seem its' the other way around. Anyway folks, here is it, another shocker! By the way, witnesses have been mysteriously dying off.

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    Uh huh. So where did the Bushes and Clintons vacation together, in Honduras?

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    The Iran Contra scandal was not exactly a cover up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfaminepestilenceplague
    The Iran Contra scandal was not exactly a cover up.
    The point is it shows a close working relationship between the Bushs and Clintons.

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    Give me a little time and I'll dig up more, it amazes me people still think people like this are rivals, that is sheer theater for the sheeple.
    And Bill Clinton had a closer relationship with Bush senior than junior.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckO
    ... Bill Clinton had a closer relationship with Bush senior than junior.
    That statement is credible.

    I think that the Democrats and the Republicans are two political groupings that essentially have the same goals-the perpetuation of elite control of the USA. The Republicans are there to ensure that elite privelage is promoted to the greatest possible extent. When they go too far, they are "punished" by the electorate, who replace them with the Democrats. The Democratic vehicle ensures that the elite have weeded out any true reformist radicals from political contention. This duality provides no real alternatives, and ensures the perpetuation of elite control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckO
    Do you remember this story? I sure do.

    On October 5, 1986 in Nicaragua, a CK123 Cargo plane, with weapons and CIA employees on board crashed.
    Its a bar now. Hopefully Ill be there in February!









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