• 06-23-2012
    Hawg
    What have you done to your Pivot Cycle lately?
    I was in the garage wrenching on my Mach 429 this morning.

    Things done today:
    *Added Crankskins to the crankset
    *Installed new rear brake pads
    *Cleaned up the drivetrain
    *Reinstalled my rebuilt Eggbeater 2ti pedals

    Ready to tear it up tomorrow!!! :)
  • 06-23-2012
    markom
    I have been cursing at the following:
    - Press-fit BB: new bearings start to bind after installation, ovalized BB shell?
    - Fox shock: damping problems & blown ProPedal. Fixed next Thu.
    - Fox Float fork air piston sucking lubrication oil from lower legs (I'll remove the foam ring tomorrow), it also flexy.
    - Blown Reverb main air seal. Fixed next week.

    Other than those I have been really enjoying riding my 5.7 lately, the steering setup feels now perfect with 60mm stem after "streched-out" 70 and too short 50mm. It is the small things that count.. :D
  • 06-23-2012
    fatcamper
    I rode it.
  • 06-24-2012
    markom
    I rode my 5.7 with a loaned CCDB Air for 2 hours... it was good.
  • 06-26-2012
    ncfisherman
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    Built it and got some riding in...'10 Mach5 built mostly with a random assortment of parts from an old build. Going to build up a Flow/King wheelset for it when I decide which nipples to go with. I was thinking purple with black spokes/rims, but not sure...suggestions?
  • 06-26-2012
    Hawg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ncfisherman View Post
    Built it and got some riding in...'10 Mach5 built mostly with a random assortment of parts from an old build. Going to build up a Flow/King wheelset for it when I decide which nipples to go with. I was thinking purple with black spokes/rims, but not sure...suggestions?

    Definately black spokes but I think blue nipples would look great since you've got blue hardware (or is that purple?) on the bike now.
  • 06-26-2012
    ncfisherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ambassadorhawg View Post
    Definately black spokes but I think blue nipples would look great since you've got blue hardware (or is that purple?) on the bike now.

    Yeah, it's the blue lunchbox kit. Hubs are dark purple. Just thought I might change it up a bit with purple. I guess red is an option too.
  • 06-27-2012
    brianc
    Took my M5 on a 10 day road trip through ABQ, Los Alamos, Angel Fire, Taos, Salida, and Durango. Now it's resting while I pick up my 5.7c tomorrow!!!!
  • 06-30-2012
    Sablotny
    Happy with how snappy my Mach 4 feels sitting down, but I was getting a lot of oingy-boingy standing and hammering, so I finally broke down and figured out how to work the RP23 shck settings.
  • 07-01-2012
    Mt.Biker E
    I put big ol' 2.5's on my bird for Burke Bike park for the nambla i mean nemba fest last weekend. Need to get rid of granny gear & grab a single ring set up before Burke bike & brew :)
    Here's some vid my buddy "Krangg" did. Hopefully when another buddy comes back from his 3 week bike trip out west he'll have the bird flyin. Sadly no one filmed my epic fwo on Knight Slayer on the 2nd to last table.

    6-22-12 Burke on Vimeo
    6-23-12 Burke on Vimeo
  • 07-03-2012
    nowshon
    I put a new set of EThirteen TCS wheels on my FB. Only one ride but man these wheels are loud, stiff and gorgeous (that's what she said). I'm also experimenting with a 25 degree stem versus current flat stem, raising the bars from level with the saddle to about 1-1/2" higher than the saddle. This after a brief ride on a different bike with older hi-rise bars that felt a bit more relaxed and playful than the lower front end on the 'Bird. Riding the VP Components Enduro in Cali this weekend.
  • 07-09-2012
    Hawg
    Mounted new tires (Specialized S-Works Ground Control 29X2.1), set them up tubeless, and greased the freehub to quiet it down. Time to get DIRTY!
  • 07-09-2012
    LeeL
    Ridden the f8ck out of it. It's a bike not jewelry.
  • 07-11-2012
    Hangtime
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    Night ride on the Firebird.

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  • 07-11-2012
    gazza007
    ive got a 36-26 nine speed chainrings, xt shadow plus, 11-36 ten speed cassette, chain and xt 10 speed shifter in the post. Poor mans 10 speed conversion

    To top it off my Kindshock LEV 150 will be here early next week.:D
    All going on my beloved Bird:thumbsup:
  • 07-11-2012
    markom
    - Had RP23 serviced, shock lost 10mm of length due damper side problem,
    - Installed X-Fusion Velvet RL fork. First impressions are good
    - Spent hours getting rid of the noise from Reverb and seat tube, noise which occurs when pedaling out of saddle still not solved.

    Nice thread, it is nice to see what parts are upgraded in Pivot world...
  • 07-11-2012
    golden boy
    My 2009 Mach 4:

    Built up tubeless wheels over the winter with King hubs and Crest rims. Currently running a 2.25 Ardent up front and a 2.1 Ignitor in the rear. The tubeless setup is a great, supple enhancement to the feel of the bike.

    I also replaced my Fox 100 with a Fox 120 to slacken the head angle a bit. I think it's around 69 degrees now. The front is a bit lighter on the climbs, but it's a worthwhile trade-off for the increased confidence while descending.
  • 07-11-2012
    ncfisherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by markom View Post
    - Had RP23 serviced, shock lost 10mm of length due damper side problem,
    - Installed X-Fusion Velvet RL fork. First impressions are good
    - Spent hours getting rid of the noise from Reverb and seat tube, noise which occurs when pedaling out of saddle still not solved.

    Nice thread, it is nice to see what parts are upgraded in Pivot world...

    Could be the PF BB. I know mine creaks like crazy because I didn't grease the cups.
  • 07-11-2012
    markom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ncfisherman View Post
    Could be the PF BB. I know mine creaks like crazy because I didn't grease the cups.

    I'll try greasing the cups. BB shell also might be ovalized as new BB's start to feel notchy immediately after installing. Trying to find to time for trip to a dealer to check this issue in few days...
  • 07-11-2012
    the last biker
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    What I have done with my Pivot is....... open the shipping box and remove the frame, a 32 Float 150 FIT CTD fork, a Float CTD shock, crank, Pivot headset etc.

    Before the weekend I hope the Mach 5.7 c is ready to ride.
  • 07-11-2012
    ncfisherman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by markom View Post
    I'll try greasing the cups. BB shell also might be ovalized as new BB's start to feel notchy immediately after installing. Trying to find to time for trip to a dealer to check this issue in few days...

    I would doubt that the BB is ovalized. The "cups"(really a plastic adapter/housing that holds the bearings) are pressed in easily.

    You may need to buy a new adapter, since removing the current one may damage it. That's why I plan on living with my BB creak for a little while longer.
  • 07-11-2012
    dog
    ... took it for a short flight...

  • 07-11-2012
    danK
    Stripped it down and shipped it back an hour ago, sigh.
    Sadly I disassembled my 5.7C and sent it back to Competitive Cyclist. The medium just didn't fit me perfectly. The reach was too small in Medium and the Large way too long. Stems ranged from 70mm to 90mm with bars from 680 to 740mm. I had to go closer to 90mm for it to feel good, and that's just way too long for my all-mountain and trail needs. The 5.7C is awesome in every aspect, but I knew when I sat on a few other medium and large frames from other manufacturers which were set up with 50 or 70mm stems and wider bars and they felt so much better that it was time to take CC up on their 60 day no questions asked return policy.
    Huge Pivot fan. Huge DW Link fan. Carbon is it. But no sense owning an expensive great frame like the 5.7C if I know the ergonomics could be better.

    Hopefully getting a 429C if they make one or a 650b short travel FS.
  • 07-12-2012
    markom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ncfisherman View Post
    I would doubt that the BB is ovalized. The "cups"(really a plastic adapter/housing that holds the bearings) are pressed in easily.

    You may need to buy a new adapter, since removing the current one may damage it. That's why I plan on living with my BB creak for a little while longer.

    No, I'm on my 3rd or 4th at this point so I'm quite familiar what is a Press-fit BB and how it is installed... ;) I'm using Shimano BB's which have no separate adapters

    The point is that when a brand new BB is pressed in it starts to feel notchy. After removal it feels OK again but of course they are not OK after removal (even with the proper tool).
  • 07-12-2012
    BaeckerX1
    Well...let's see...

    Last year I bought the 2011 Mach 5.7 X9 kit for a great price at a local shop, but there were some things I didn't like, so I ended up doing a lot over time. Some things were changed out with parts I had from a previous bike. Some parts were bought new.

    Stock stem was ridiculously long and bar was stupid narrow. I had them replace the stem with a 75mm Truvative Stylo T40 at the shop before I bought it. I believe they put the widest comparable bar they could on it at the shop, but it was still too narrow.

    I installed my Deity Dirty 30 handlebar and Lizard Skins Peaty lock-on grips. I've gone through several iterations of thick and thin grips before deciding that I really like a thin minimalistic grip for max control.

    Replaced brake rotors with 203mm front/180mm rear Shimano ones with the aluminum spiders.

    I took the Fox Float 32 150 RL fork to PUSH to be tuned for my weight and riding style and upgrade it to an RLC (fork dive on ledges and braking was scary before the upgrade). The fork didn't quite match up with the rear suspension at first, but now it rides great.

    Added Specialized Command Post Blacklite dropper post.

    I wanted to go tubeless so I put my Sun Ringle Charger Pros on the bike and changed the tires to a Bontrager XR4 TLR front and Specialized Purgatory rear.

    The original 26-39 2x10 gearing was too high on the low end for the steep, long Colorado front range climbs (especially with bad knees) and they didn't have adapters to change the gearing yet because of the new BCD. I also wanted a bash guard. I ended up going with a 3x10 X9 crankset and installing an e13 turbocharger bash in place of the big ring.

    Well with the change in gearing and 10 speed incompatibilities due to throw distances/chainring differences, I had to change out to a 3x10 front shifter and a new front derailleur when I changed the gearing.

    I decided that 30 inches of bar width was just a bit too big for me for everyday trail riding. Put the Dirty 30s on the FR bike and got a Race Face Atlas AM in 28.5 inches which has been perfect.

    I replaced the stock brake levers on the Elixir CRs with Straitline ones. They are so comfortable and look awesome! Pricey, but worth it.

    Realized the stock cassette chewed completely through my wheel's freehub, so I did 2 things. Charger Pros had some issues with spokes loosening and disappearing so decided I didn't trust them. They will get new freehub and transferred to another bike (they only make aluminum freehubs for this wheelset though, lame). I had the DT 340 hubs clipped out of the stock wheelset and built into Stan's Flows by a local wheelbuilder. I bought a new 10 speed Shimano XT cassette with carrier to decrease wear on hub.

    When tires started wearing out, I replaced both with the new style Bontrager XR4 Team Issue TLRs in 2.35 front and 2.2 rear.

    Put on Bionicon C guide. Love this thing so far.

    Oh hey, they have chainring adapters for the 120 BCD cranks now! I'm also getting stronger (and 22/36 low gear was just stupid), so decided to switch the old crankset that I never got around to selling to the new 24-38 with integrated bashring. The 3x10 with e13 bash went to my 29er hardtail as an upgrade where the lower gearing made more sense.

    I put the old front shifter and front derailleur back on.

    Well since I have a bigger ring again and my chain was worn out anyway, it was time to get a new chain.

    Next upgrade will be a SRAM X9 Type 2 rear derailleur with the clutch (preferably when they have them in white to match the rest of my components and replace the current white one that came with the white frame). They do apparently make them in the other colors, but I've only seen grey for sale so far.
    X9 TYPE 2 Rear Derailleur | SRAM
  • 07-13-2012
    EGF168
    Built the 429 for the second time. First build was largely parts moved over from my Stumpjumper. The front was way too high and it quickly became apparent that it wasnít as capable. Both the result of me underestimating just how much difference some geometry measurements would make compared to other bikes Iíd ridden.

    So the Stumpjumper went back together while it was worked out what I wanted to do with the 429. After a long time with it as an ornament, plans were made for a more XC biased build. Finally built, it seems close to how I want it but a few minutes isnít enough ride time. A shorter stem with a more negative angle might get things bang on. Build consists of a black XL frame, Tower Pro forks, Charger Pro wheels and 1x9 gears.

    I canít tell you how close this came to not happening. This yearís weather has had me seriously considering getting a road bike. My general dissatisfaction with the imperfections of rear suspension bikes nearly had me getting a hardtail. But the clear frontrunner was a Brompton as I could really do with one for transportation.
  • 07-14-2012
    markom
    F)(%!
    Reversed the car into something with bike on hitch-rack... Rear triangle cracked and this is the first day on my cycling holiday. Completely my fault, no one else to blame.. S)§#! C=§%#! :madman:
  • 07-14-2012
    mtbnozpikr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the last biker View Post
    What I have done with my Pivot is....... open the shipping box and remove the frame, a 32 Float 150 FIT CTD fork, a Float CTD shock, crank, Pivot headset etc.

    Does the Pivot headset come with the frame? The reason I ask is because I have a large 5.7c on order and should be arriving in a week or two. If not, where did you get it?
  • 07-14-2012
    the last biker
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbnozpikr View Post
    Does the Pivot headset come with the frame? The reason I ask is because I have a large 5.7c on order and should be arriving in a week or two. If not, where did you get it?

    PM sent.
  • 07-14-2012
    mtbnozpikr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by the last biker View Post
    PM sent.

    Alright, thanks for the information. I've got a few parts to pick up before I can ride but it should be fun.:thumbsup:
  • 07-15-2012
    anesthesia-matt
    Lets see......

    Replaced seals on Fox shock
    Replaced bearings in DW-link and carbon rocker
    Upgraded rear shock DU bushings to needle bearings
    Changed front chain ring to 37t from 34t (1x9)

    On the way:
    2012 Rockshox Reba RLT 120mm
    - this will upgrade my front hub from 9mm to 15mm
    ZTR Crest rims (changing from ZTR Flow)
  • 07-30-2012
    aluma
    Hmmm...upgrades n rebuild.
    After 3yrs of no problems and a couple of thousand miles on my Mach 4, I had the shocks rebuilt at mellow Johnny's, replaced post, stem, bars, seat, spacers to light weight color matched and carbon parts. New pads and new brake fluid. Stan's arch ex wheelset and maxxis ikons. New chain, gears n cassette. Wow did this thing change into a whole new rocket! :)
  • 07-30-2012
    nowshon
    I just read an editorial in Dirt Rag about refreshing an existing bike to renew the excitement. Sounds like you did just that! Nice.
  • 07-31-2012
    wolverex
    Not actually done to my Pivot but sure planning to:

    Change to new Shadow+ Rear Ds , XT or SLX that coincides with DRD Direct mount standard. So I wanted to find out if anyone knows if I can get a DRD Link from Pivot if I have 2012 Mach 5.7 carbon. I believe the 2013 bikes come standard with the link for Shimano kits

    Thanks!
  • 07-31-2012
    kenbentit
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    Monsterized it!
    Kinda. Not sure if I like the Monster Energy tag or good ole Gravedigger :p Stripped the front and had it painted Kawasaki green. Added a new DHXAir and a mix of decals. Pretty happy with how it turned out.
  • 07-31-2012
    Hawg
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    Kinda. Not sure if I like the Monster Energy tag or good ole Gravedigger :p Stripped the front and had it painted Kawasaki green. Added a new DHXAir and a mix of decals. Pretty happy with how it turned out.

    I wasn't a fan of bright green bikes until now. That looks fantastic! :thumbsup:
  • 07-31-2012
    LeeL
    Ken - that's nice. Thinking of getting the Mach 5 stripped and painted black. I like black

    Dropped off Sharon's Mach 5.7 at North Shore Billet so they could make template derailleur hangers



    Did the same for the Mach 5 and Firebird too
  • 08-01-2012
    Uphill=sad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    Kinda. Not sure if I like the Monster Energy tag or good ole Gravedigger :p Stripped the front and had it painted Kawasaki green. Added a new DHXAir and a mix of decals. Pretty happy with how it turned out.

    The green looks really good, Kind of gives it a 'playful' look for lack of a better word. Would have been curious to see the rear in green as well.
  • 08-01-2012
    kenbentit
    Full green looks very much like the Carbon 429...
  • 08-03-2012
    gazza007
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    Kinda. Not sure if I like the Monster Energy tag or good ole Gravedigger :p Stripped the front and had it painted Kawasaki green. Added a new DHXAir and a mix of decals. Pretty happy with how it turned out.

    i hope that doesn't effect your warranty:p
  • 08-03-2012
    kenbentit
    Oh I'm not worried, I know a guy that can hook me up :)
  • 08-07-2012
    kenbentit
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    Accessorizing
    Added a nice new SDG Duster saddle and some blue Oury grips to round things out.
  • 08-22-2012
    Hawg
    New XT cassette today, 11-32 gearing. I just couldn't see spending more than twice the price for an XTR cassette again and saving only 35 grams for the added cost...
  • 09-08-2012
    Isildur
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    Finally got everything together, and put all of these on today :) Change my 5.7C to 1x10, with the help of a E-Thirteen 35t Ring, Csixx HD Mount XC Guide, Bionicon C-Guide v2, KMC XSL 10Sp Chain (Ltd Ed Black & Gold), SRAM Type 2 and a 36t XT Cassette :)

    Didn't end up putting the new pedals on - will save those for the Gravity days along with the stubby stem & riser bar combo I have for that.

    The test will be tomorrow once I get a chance to ride :) :D
  • 09-11-2012
    snoroqc
    On my 5.7
    - Swap the Stem from Thomson X4 70 to 50mm.
    - Broken spoke on the Tricon M1700 !! replace the stupid Dt Swiss with Chris King/Mavic 819.
  • 09-15-2012
    markom
    AL 5.7:
    - tightened linkage and shock bolts again, after replacing the bearings they have required tightening twice. Re-assembly done with torque wrench and recommended thread lock.
    - bled Reverb after breaking the hose in workstand.
  • 10-18-2012
    WilsonDoL
    Sorry to thread hi-jack, but I'm a newbie here and one needs five posts before starting a new thread. Here's my question, which kind of fits in this thread as it's something I might do with my Pivot (lately):

    I'm thinking of buying a 5.7 AL XT build and it comes with DT Swiss 350 / 430 wheelset. It's not tubeless ready nor like a Tricon (like used in the better builds like XTR ) where the rim has no spoke holes.

    Should I go with this wheelset? Or should I try to get a credit and swap at purchase, or sell the wheels new ($200-250 value?) and use the money and an additional $200-300 more to get something better - and what would you recommend (that's it, my budget only allows that much more to spend)?

    The requirement is a 12x142 rear without quick release, and the market isn't full of those at deep discounts.

    I am 5'8", mostly XC or trail riding in the Park City area. Thx
  • 10-18-2012
    Isildur
    Your best bet will probably be to try and swap the wheelset at purchase. It's generally the best way to go in Australia and most LBS's here give a good deal on swaps like that.

    Talk to your LBS and see what their thoughts are on the matter.
  • 10-19-2012
    golden boy
    I'd probably just stick with that wheelset. I've heard bad things about the Tricons when it comes to truing and/or replacing spokes. Not that your budget would allow for Tricons. I'm running 350 hubs laced to Pacenti rims on my B-bike and I have no complaints.
  • 10-20-2012
    Hawg
    I'm due for new brake pads AGAIN! These big wheels coupled with the steep terrain around my area kill the pads darn fast. Also, I got a new chain, KMCX9SL.