So, the Loaded grips were suffering after a couple of good stacks, so I've gone with something new
They're called Grip Rings, and come in a range of colours. Thanks again to Pushie Enterprises for the gear!
/edit: Ha, I also almost forgot! Changed the bars to Syntace 680mm jobs. 710mm was great in the really rough downs, but a bit too wide for my back on longer days. The 680mm have 12deg sweep, 10mm rise, but no upsweep, so I get a nice sweep with a wrist friendly flatness, while also getting a slightly more upright position for my back
The real question though, is how did that affect your ride? Positive, negative? Thoughts?
Very Positive! I've been running a FOX 34 160mm, and I love it. I have a 5.7 carbon, size large with an 80mm stem. I pushed it forward to help center me on the bike better, so I could weight the front end more, and it did the trick.
"The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face".
I actually haven't put my money down yet. I was thinking of going with the stock XT build and then switching out some parts, but my LBS has an XT/XTR Pro model on order already. They may have me talked into the upgrade, but it will depend on $ and which color they ordered.
I am still holding out to see how much it weighs. One of my big reasons for changing bikes this year was to shed some weight from my current bike (Turner 5 spot). I was super close to jumping on a SC TallboyC earlier this year, but wanted to wait and see the new Pivot and possibly the long, long, long awaited Ibis Ripley. Needless to say it's pretty much down to the Pivot or the Tallboy now.
Needless to say it's pretty much down to the Pivot or the Tallboy now.
That sounds reasonable to me. I was looking hard at an Ibis Mojo of some iteration or an Intense Carbine but was suggested that I look at Pivot. I was initially against it maybe only because I was familiar with the other two and Pivot was entirely new territory for me. I ended up going with the Pivot and am very glad that I did. I'm sure whichever you go with you will be happy.
2012 5.7 X0 Build Large 27 3/4 lbs
Easton Haven Stem 70mm
Easton Havoc Carbon Handlebar 750 MM w/ Lizard Skin Peaty Grips installed them yesterday (from a haven 711mm)
X0 crank with Race Face 32T 1X10 w/ XTR Trail Pedals
MRP Lopez Chain Guide
X9 Rear Der Type 2 smmall cage installed yesterday (from a X0 Der)
Maxxis Minnion DHF 2.25 1 ply front
Kenda Slant 6 rear both converted tubeless
For some reason in 2012 the front rotor came stock 160mm on these bikes. Changed it out to a 185mm yesterday.
Took it for a ride today. 750mm bars rule. Ive never felt so comfy. As far as the X9 type 2 small cage it feels snappier shifting than the regular X0 rear der it replaced more than likely due to the small cage. My bike is 100% anit- chain slap right now except when pedaling because chain guide pulley's naturally make a bit of noise.
So, not a lot of changes since I built up my 5.7c in March, but a couple changes of note that might interest some folks:
1. I swapped my Reverb with a KS Lev (this week). The Reverb was fine, but I was tired of the cable scrub. My wife got the Reverb, so everyone is happy.
2. I got a custom shock tune from PUSH. The bike rides MUCH better now, especially with medium bump compliance.
3. I swapped out my Talas 32mm 150 with a Talas 34 mm 160. So, I road the crap out of the new fork in October and found it was fantastic when bombing crazy fast/tech/rocky/rooty down hill single track with flowing turns and berms. HOWEVER, it did not do as well on tight DH switchbacks or hairpin berms (compared to the Talas 32 150 mm). Climbs weren't an issue because I could always drop it to 120 mm. I knew this could be an issue before I bought the fork but I wanted to confirm/experiment on my own vs. just taking our great friends at Pivot's word on the 34 mm forks. I also had a back-up plan if the 160 mm geo didn't work out.
See, Pivot's perfectly reasonable recommendation is to go with the Float 34 mm 160 and drop it to 150. But I wanted a Talas. I noticed that the Specialized Stumpy Evo Carbon comes with a Talas 34 mm 150 and I asked my LBS if I could buy that fork. Answer is no. HOWEVER, Fox told them that you can easily convert your 34 mm 160 to a 150 by simply swapping out the Talas Lower Assembly Cartridge from the 160 mm/120 mm to the 150 mm/120 mm (Fox part number 820-02-154-Kit at $75 US). Needless to say, I went that route and made the change this week. For the Geo geeks:
Talas 32 mm 150 ATC = 520.9 mm
Talas 34 mm 150 ATC = 527.9 mm
Talas 34 mm 160 ATC = 537.9 mm
BB height rose around .25 inches, which is far better than the ~.5 inch rise at 160 mm
For the folks out there who want a 34 mm Talas 150, there is an option for you. It will require an extra $75 US, so it's up to you whether it's worth it our not. It was worth it to me, plus I have both cartridges and can switch back to 160 mm for any future needs.
Dan and Ken, maybe talk to Chris about the Talas 34 mm 150/120 as a third option for the 5.7c? The bike is an awesome Enduro/Super D rig that performs MUCH better with the 34 mm fork. Floats are great, but being able to drop to 120 mm in races and rec rides is a huge difference maker on steep climbs. Just saying.
Previous: 429 alum, XX 2x10, Speci Roval EL alloy wheels. Migrated Blacklite, shifters, The One brakes, bar, stem, grips, pedals, tires; all else is new.
Got a familiar trail in with perfect dirt. Something would have been very wrong if I hadn't been blown away by the ride. I kept trying to find similarities between my old build and this one. All I could come up with is that they both feel stiff and fast. Aside from that, it's an absolutely different tool. I'm convinced the hoops have as much to do with the ride feel as the frame. Probably more.
Climbing: Overall greater stability. Decreased head angle didn't affect stability by any measure. Feels slightly more maneuverable than the alum build, thanks to instant acceleration of the hoops and lower BB.
Descending: Stunning performance. My alum bike would hit a ceiling in the rough, where control started to feel marginal. Wheels kicking left and right, just feeling a tad out of its element. This bike is absolutely smooth, unbelievable feedback dampening. Still feels aggressively stiff and fast. Its ability to provide control in rough spots reminds me of my long-travel bike with Flow rims. Which is a pretty shocking revelation for an upgraded XC bike.
It weighed in at just under 27.5 lbs. I'm pretty sure my alum bike weighed slightly more, if any. I'll take the increased stiffness and dampening and forget the weight. This bike is surely going to horn in on the other half of my quiver, and it'll be a bikepacking animal when that time comes.
Kudos to Pivot for designing great bikes. (And thanks for getting me on the trail with the loaner shock.)
Decided against getting an older DH bike to much around with on park or big shuttle days. Instead I beefed/quieted the Firebird down a bit.
- picked up an aluminum rocker for DH days to go with ....
- a 2012 DHX RC4 shock w/350# spring (testing phase)
- a replacement set of needle bearings for my DHX Air for XC riding
- an XO med cage Type2 derailleur (using the original '09 XO 9sp shifter)
- new chain (SRAM 991)
- new chain rings, a gold 24t Blackspire and a 36t SLX
- new cables/housing on shifters
- new cable/housing on KS Supernatural
- new 2.35 Nevegal for the back (or a 2.35 Prowler XT)
- new 2.5 Minion DHF XC for the front
- fresh pads on the Saints
- fresh oil in the Totem
- new WTB Silverado SLT Saddle (hasn't arrived yet)
- replacement seatpost QR lever
Its going to be a great year!
Common sense is not so common - Voltaire
Never underestimate your own ignorance - Me
So, over the last 6 weeks or so, I've done the following:
- Replaced the tyres after destroying the rear Larsen.
- Changed to NN front and RR rear.
- Replaced rear linkage setup due to original double row bearings dying.
- Entered the first race of the NSW State AM Series.
- Said race was pretty wet still, so bike got VERY Dirty Like, dirt in places it didn't know it had!
- Gave bike complete overhaul (was time anyway after 10 months), with a full strip down, clean and rebuild.
Now it's running super smooth, and somewhere in there the bike has dropped 200g, and is now at 11.40kg (25.13lbs). I'm guessing the tyres are the cause of this
Looking forward to the weekend to ride my baby again!
I did a tubeless conversion on my 2013 Firebird. I used American Classic tape, Stan's rim strips, Stan's sealant, and Schwalbe Hans Dampfs on the DT 530 rims. The setup was painless and has been solid so far with no burping after 2 rides at 30 psi.
Pivot Mach 5.7 AL.
Added a 0.93^3 in volume spacer to the Fox CTD shock. It is the largest spacer for that shock. I don't bottom out anymore but still use all the travel often, which is a good thing. I've only dropped the sag ring off the shock once on a big hit (3-4ft) that I didn't land correctly.
Also added more fox fluid on the Fox Float 34 CTD @ 150mm. I have added a total of 20cc. I think it was just the right amount for me, not bottoming out anymore but still using all the travel.
Both changes will need a rebound adjustment as I felt with the same setting it is now faster than I would like.
I weigh 195lbs with gear and my pressures are 170psi and 70psi.