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    So what's next for Pivot?

    The Mach 4 got some love this year. Lighter and stiffer. The Mach 5 is now replaced by the 5.7. The Mach 429 received some enhancements. The Phoenix is an instant hit ( and I want one real bad).
    BUT what about the Firebird? Will it get a little refresh this year? More travel? Anything?

    OR will pivot start to explore the realm of full Carbon.

    Let the speculation begin.

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    For the FB an adjustable chain stay adjustment feature might be cool (ala Pheonix)... or an easier way to adjust the HTA (other than an angle set)...

    but orange ano would be really cool (but i'm probably the only one who'd want that )... or color combo choices of front and rear triangle...
    i need to develop my crashing skills...

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    Since the Pivot people actually read this:

    For the love of god, don't redo the the 429 and call it the 429.7 (or something horrible like that). Update the bike, make it lighter, and leave the name alone!

    I'd probably buy one either way...

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    Carbon M5.7, M4, M429

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    All model will be lighter, and a Pivot hard tail..
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    My want list:

    Pivot 529 (I assume it would be fun... I've never ridden a 29'er except for cyclocross bikes) with 140mm travel.

    New Firebird rear triangle with removeable dropouts so I can run 150 through all the way down to QR out back just by swapping the drops.
    "It looks flexy"

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    I think having one of their large black Mach 5.7s sitting under me should be their most immediate goal. All that carbon shite can wait
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    my list

    1) some sort of Maxle or 12x142 thru axle system
    2) offer with Coil version (frameset & complete)
    3) offer with Cane Creek angelset (frameset & complete)
    4) raw frame option
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    Pivot needs to come out with a hardtail Ti bike that can take a 140mm fork like the Van Nicholas Mamtor. and I want the mach 5.7 to come in yellow.

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    The only hardtail worth riding is a 29er and TI is too soft and flexy.

    Steal is real!
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    i thought Pivot was already teamed with a road bike manufacturer?
    i need to develop my crashing skills...

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    Yeah, BH or HB bike something. I think they are a real cool old school company from Spain or ??? The cyclocross bike in carbon looks pretty amazing. Can't wait till all the bikes start to come out with disc mounts since they finally made it legal!
    "It looks flexy"

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    OK, I just noticed that another company is making a 29'er 7" travel DH bike. I think Pivot with their DW link could do it waaaaaay better than the company using the "Already Been Patented" technology. That is an awesome idea and I want one.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay
    ... the company using the "Already Been Patented" technology.
    clever little shot there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE
    The only hardtail worth riding is a 29er and TI is too soft and flexy.

    Steal is real!
    Am, so you advocate taking bikes of others and riding them? That's real?

    Or did you mean "steel" is real?
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh
    Am, so you advocate taking bikes of others and riding them? That's real?

    Or did you mean "steel" is real?


    Thank you.

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    Don't you think you should have started out your first sentence with UHHH not Am?
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    I really hope P does NOT move to full carbon, I love their bikes the way they are and will probably buy a 5-7 as soon as I can justify it
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    I am opposite of you Felt, I would like to see a full carbon Firebird. I am starting to get sold on the dampening effects and stiffness of the carbon ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithrider
    I am opposite of you Felt, I would like to see a full carbon Firebird. I am starting to get sold on the dampening effects and stiffness of the carbon ride.
    weird... but good that it stiffer yet dampens better... what about durability? what about rocks? i am always tossing rocks into my down tube... has carbon technology overcome all that yet?
    i need to develop my crashing skills...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dog
    weird... but good that it stiffer yet dampens better... what about durability? what about rocks? i am always tossing rocks into my down tube... has carbon technology overcome all that yet?
    Yep to durability and lots of stiffness. Have you seen the video of Peat hitting a corner at full speed at the paved DH race?

    Damps better? How can you even feel that with a 6.5" travel fork and rear?
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay
    Yep to durability and lots of stiffness. Have you seen the video of Peat hitting a corner at full speed at the paved DH race?

    Damps better? How can you even feel that with a 6.5" travel fork and rear?
    Hard to explain the dampening effect. The ride of a carbon frame just feels different to me. That said, I have not owned one, only test ridden them. Nonetheless, the material difference was perceptible and wasn't in my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smithrider
    Hard to explain the dampening effect. The ride of a carbon frame just feels different to me. That said, I have not owned one, only test ridden them. Nonetheless, the material difference was perceptible and wasn't in my head.
    I might be dead down there too I certainly notice how frigging stiff and how well the front end of my carbon bike tracks, especially on bermy tractiony fast trails that have multiple s-curves.
    "It looks flexy"

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    but what about rocks flying up and smacking your frame?
    i need to develop my crashing skills...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dog
    but what about rocks flying up and smacking your frame?
    It's really no big deal these days.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Wish list? 429C with 12mm rear axle. More space around rear shock for cable routing. Carbon kickplate under downtube that bolts onto existing watercage bolts to protect carbon downtube. Enough space to allow normal XX FD to fit without cable rub.

    All this said, my current 429 is my favorite bike to date.

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