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    Pivot Switchblade

    Coming May 31st, according to Pivot website. Any ideas what it is?

    My old Titus Switchblade was one of my favorite bikes ever.

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    Just saw that... Looks like Chase had a hand in it... so, is it a longer travel 29r?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bulletboy View Post
    is it a longer travel 29r?
    That would be my guess. With a Hightower-like "switch" to be able to run 27.5+ with the same BB height?

    Design-wise, can Pivot get the chain stays shorter than 17.5"? It seems like every DW-link 29er has a minimum ~17.5" CS length (Turner, Ibis, Pivot). I personally prefer long stays - but I'm a leggy freak and I know this a deal breaker for some.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder1 View Post
    That would be my guess. With a Hightower-like "switch" to be able to run 27.5+ with the same BB height?

    Design-wise, can Pivot get the chain stays shorter than 17.5"? It seems like every DW-link 29er has a minimum ~17.5" CS length (Turner, Ibis, Pivot). I personally prefer long stays - but I'm a leggy freak and I know this a deal breaker for some.
    Yeah, I would assume it has some sort of "switch", since Cocalis designed the Titus Switchblade to have adjustable rear travel from 4 to 5.5" IIRC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmanInTheD View Post
    Yeah, I would assume it has some sort of "switch", since Cocalis designed the Titus Switchblade to have adjustable rear travel from 4 to 5.5" IIRC.
    Configuration options seem to be all the rage. At Costco last night I saw paper towels that advertised that you could "create you're own sized sheets!" It seems everybody wants to be able to customize their shiny new purchase to suit themselves, while keeping all their options open down the road. OK, that's all fine and well, and Pivot seems to be adopting that philosophy lately - the LES is crazy flexible, Pivot advertises the Mach6 as the world's most "versatile" enduro bike, and the 429T can be run with 27.5 or 29. I wasn't really thinking of adjustable rear travel on the Switchblade, though. Maybe...
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    Only illegal in 15 states... haha

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    I'm stoked for this. please not a super slack sa and short reach

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    If the Switchblade is what I think it is, there will be a L white/orange 429T/XT 2x/LEV dropper for sale on this site for under $5k on May 31st.

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    It will be interesting to see if Pivot stays the course with their geometry (slacker seat angle, relatively short reach).

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    When the 429T came out, I was a little disappointed in the total travel - had been hoping for a "529" to replace my last bike. If this turns out to be that bike, I'm definitely jumping on one...

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    fingers crossed. aggressive plus/29 135-140 bike with reasonable sa and reach

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    fingers crossed. aggressive plus/29 135-140 bike with reasonable sa and reach
    Ditto.

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    I am having a 429tr built up as I write this... Think my LBS will let me retur/exchange it so I can at least see what is coming so I don't rush into anything.. More travel is like more horsepower, who doesnt want that?

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    more reach, shorter CS, steeper STA so its rideable. Otherwise exciting . Just got rid of my 429T so there is room.

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    What the world does not need is another 120-140 mid-travel 29er. Wreckoning, E29, this is the forefront...
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    Ummmm for what? What is this forefront? Mid travel bikes are so good now these longer travel am bikes are becoming more useless by the day

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    I am sure it will rewrite the book on how we think about 29er OR 27.5+ bikes depending on what it is and Aaron C will rip on it like he does on every bike. My hope is its 150mm+ category, maybe even 180mm. Something like new Uzzi in carbon or WFO type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrink View Post
    more reach, shorter CS, steeper STA so its rideable. Otherwise exciting . Just got rid of my 429T so there is room.
    Um, I think Chris Cocalis knows how to make a bike that's rideable. Maybe not for you and some others, but, if that's the case, there are other makers. Some of us like to move around on our saddle for different pitches and don't want the seat over the BB.

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    I heard from my LBS that it is a 29er. Has anyone ever made a 29er DW link bike with over 130mm travel??? I did a google search and couldn't find one...

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    I'm guessing 130-135mm travel with a 150 fork by the kit that the guy in the photo's wearing. Knee pads and launching off of something. And maybe some kind of "switch" to adjust geometry and/or travel. Sort of a Firebird replacement.

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    Well that shoots down my idea of a 5" travel 27.5 being announced on May 27th

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    Though a longer travel Mach 4 (5.7 replacement) would be great; having ridden both the 5.7 and the Mach 6, I'd say if your heart is set on 27.5, you wouldn't be disappointed with the Mach 6. It climbs as well as a shorter travel bike (I came close to PR on a local climb that I used for a test ride) and is super playful with the dropper post.

    (assuming you haven't ridden one yet - if you have, forget what I posted)

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    i hear it's a 29/27.5 plus bike 150 front 135 rear. no word on geo

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    i really dig pivot so i hope the geo isn't a let down

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    isn't the pic on their website a B+ wheelsize? From the looks of things, it will be at least a B+ bike ... hoping the switchblade name represents a switch in geo rather than travel/etc ... something similar to a Hightower. I've been waiting on a new B+/29er with somewhere around 130-140 rear / 140-150 front travel. Keeping my fingers crossed. Judging from Pivots other bikes, I'm sure they will introduce another efficient pedaler ... not too worried about the geometry since Pivot has been dead on with all their other bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollinrob View Post
    I heard from my LBS that it is a 29er. Has anyone ever made a 29er DW link bike with over 130mm travel??? I did a google search and couldn't find one...
    The BMC Trailfox comes close with it's AS profile. The overall AS numbers would probably need to be a bit higher, but it replicates the flat AS mid-travel section unique to DW bikes, where other bikes bog-down when the suspension activates and you try to accelerate (pedal).

    That said, more aggressive 29ers is awesome. With modern materials, there's no reason you can't get another 20mm and have something that will hold up just fine for the occasional bike-park days (and not be severely under-biked).
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    I'll guess 27.5+ with 140mm fork and 130mm rear suspension featuring some type of "switch" that allows you to run it high/low like the Trek mini link or whatever that thing is. No 29er option. Targeted at crushing the 5010 and SB5c.
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    Stumpjumper killer. 135mm rear travel 150 front 29er
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryder1 View Post
    I'll guess 27.5+ with 140mm fork and 130mm rear suspension featuring some type of "switch" that allows you to run it high/low like the Trek mini link or whatever that thing is. No 29er option. Targeted at crushing the 5010 and SB5c.
    You could be right! An Ibis Mojo 3 rival

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    Not mojo 3 rival. Hightower rival

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    Wow I hope its a hightower or yeti 5.5 I'll jump back on a Pivot for sure. Can't wait

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    Per the just-received MB Action:

    -29 or 27.5+, up to 3.25" tires on the 27.5+ wheels
    -long and low with 16.85" chainstays
    -135mm rear travel, 150mm Fox 36 fork
    -no mention of any "switch" or adjustable link or anything
    -DW link, yada, yada
    -2 photos: carbon with red (not outlined red like the others), and blue with red (like the one on the website)


    Too much bike for me, but right up some of you guys' alley.

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    I'll take one, thanks!

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    wow 16.85 cs..how did they get it so short? whats the seat tube angle? sounds like exactly what i want

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    I'll take one please


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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhand80 View Post
    I'll take one please


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    I wonder if running a 140 fork up front is possible...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post


    I wonder if running a 140 fork up front is possible...

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    Hmmmm. Once we know the bottom bracket height then it will be easier to make that decision. Maybe it's a 150mm fork in plus mode like the HT and 140mm fork pizza slicer mode


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    my interest level is peaked. i want to see pics and geo

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    Quote Originally Posted by invol2ver View Post
    fingers crossed. aggressive plus/29 135-140 bike with reasonable sa and reach
    Like the rocky mountain instinct BC edition? Will be interested to see what Pivot comes up with. My rocky BC is sweet so I'm not looking to change bikes for a couple seasons and will likely stay with rocky assuming they continue to produce an instinct bc and just refine and tweak, because the bike slays everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BmanInTheD View Post
    Per the just-received MB Action:

    -29 or 27.5+, up to 3.25" tires on the 27.5+ wheels
    -long and low with 16.85" chainstays
    -135mm rear travel, 150mm Fox 36 fork
    -no mention of any "switch" or adjustable link or anything
    -DW link, yada, yada
    -2 photos: carbon with red (not outlined red like the others), and blue with red (like the one on the website)


    Too much bike for me, but right up some of you guys' alley.
    I guess I'll have to track down a copy of MBA in the grocery store!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I guess I'll have to track down a copy of MBA in the grocery store!
    Post some pics if you do!

    This sounds like the bike you've been waiting for Vik!

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    I'm not getting too excited yet. Long and low are not words I would use to describe my dream bike.

    I am curious enough to crack the cover of MBA [at the store] and take a look though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vikb View Post
    I'm not getting too excited yet. Long and low are not words I would use to describe my dream bike.

    I am curious enough to crack the cover of MBA [at the store] and take a look though.
    Long and low in terms of Pivot Cycles probably isn't all that long and low comparatively.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Long and low in terms of Pivot Cycles probably isn't all that long and low comparatively.
    One can hope. Either way it will be great to see a new Pivot model. It doesn't matter if it ends up in my garage or not. Good to see the company coming out with their new ideals regardless.
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    Indeed!

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    Thanks.

    I like the bikepacking friendly shock placement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BmanInTheD View Post
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    I had a Mach 6 and now have a Trail 429. Love both bikes If the Switchblade follows the above leaked geo/stats then I think it fills a gap in the lineup for Pivot. The Mach 6 is great for super chunky locations i.e. Desert Southwest and East Coast Big Mountains like Virginia and NC. Trail 429 is perfect for probably 80% of riders and locations in the USA. For me I spend time between Coastal CA, Tahoe, Downieville, Rocky Mtn and Desert Southwest. Think the stats on the Switchblade will present itself as a Swiss Army Knife for me. Keep in mind I'm not a 29er hater. So bikes like the Santa Cruz 5010 do not make much sense to me. If you are going to go with short-ish travel because you are doing more epic/aerobic riding, then I think you should go with bigger wheels. At the same time, I get how you might want a bike with more trail feel but the ability to get the 27.5 wheels off the ground. We are lucky to have so much choice. Wonder if Pivot will make a competing bike to the 5010 or the Transition Scout. I've ridden Specialized 6Fattie FSR. Not sure I am sold on the mid fat tires for full suspension. If the tires are too firm they skid out easily with the lower profile treads. If they are too soft they bottom out quite easily messing up the rim etc. I don't think the wheels and tires are there yet on the plus gear to go as big as full susp. will let you get away with. I like plus tires on hard tails because I think it allows you to go bigger when you don't have the advantage of full suspension. If I get the Switchblade I will immediately sell the stock DT Swiss Spline 2 M1700 29er wheels....so lame they keep using this XC wheelset for all mountain bikes, and get the Ibis 938 aluminum wide rims to run 2.3x29 tires with a wider profile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colin+M View Post
    Headed to my mirror to read it

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    Ha! Good one. I was just posting a pic of the bike from Photo Booth cuz vic said he was gonna go to the grocery to see a pic of the bike so I thought I'd save him a trip. I can't figure out how to get my photos from iPhoto to upload on here and post them.

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