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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikkie View Post
    Nice, I like the stealthy look.
    Is this an extreme DIY job, or is it a new 'non'-color option prototype?
    Chris Cocalis sends me all of his prototypes for testing......kidding! I really liked the numbers of the Les, but hated the graphics. I decided to go ahead and purchase a frame and sent it to Jack Kane Bicycles. These guys did an an amazing job transforming the bike, the customer service was also exceptional. More frame pictures can be found here Jack Kane Bicycles Master Gallery - Jack Kane Bicycles. Custom Bicycle Painting. Carbon Repair. Restorations
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    Bummer, my 'Les-frame' is delayed again, end of june.
    6 month's, never had to wait this long for bike stuff.
    If I can (ever?) roll the bike out of my work shop, Pivot might already present the new 2015 colors

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    I had Super Dave Thomas build me up a set of Knox Carbon wheels with I9 Torch hubs. Way different bike with these than the stock DT Swiss slugs that the bike came with. The wheels are stiff and snappy, plus with the wider rims they seem to put more tire surface on the ground which seems to roll faster.

    Pictures don't really do it justice, or at least my pictures don't.

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    I test rode and enjoyed the ride. The BB area didn't creak with XX1 cranks on a rainy day. The ride is rough but it is a fast climber. I was 5'11" and the medium was too small for me. The only downside for me is the 2k cost of the frame.

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    How do you like having these two bikes in your fleet? I was thinking of getting the same bikes to complement each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesmeyer11 View Post
    How do you like having these two bikes in your fleet? I was thinking of getting the same bikes to complement each other.
    If you are referring to me, i never ride the 429 unless the Les is in the shop. The Les is the perfect all around bike for the riding I do, it does it all very well.

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    Pivot LES 27.5

    I recently build up this LES for a change of pace, as I hadn't ridden a HT MTB since 1999. I've literally only been on either Specialized epics, Intnese Spider FROs, or my all-time favorite my Intense Tracer 275. We recently moved to Turkey and I was looking for something to go on the long, steep climbs out the back door of our place.

    The LES has been great. I build up with mostly spare parts I had and it weighs in at 21.5 pounds (10 pounds lighter than my 275). Though my 275 can outperform it on the long fast descents, the LES rides away from it on the 20 minute cat 3 climbs I'm usually on.

    The build:
    Pivot LES 27.5 (med)
    Fork: Fox float 32 CTD
    Group: mostly XT w/ XTR cranks, 1x10, 30 wolf tooth front chainring and 11x36 rear cassette. I tried a 42 tooth on the rear but I could never get the shifting right.
    Wheels: front - Stan's Crest front with 330 hub. Not a bad wheel, but it's flexy. Rear - Stan's flow with Chris King ISO hub (borrowed from my 275 as I'm still waiting on the rear wheel I ordered).
    Stem: Thompson
    Bars: Enve
    Seat: SLR
    Post: EC 70 (heavy)
    Pedals: XTR

    I also threw in a pic of Cappadocia where the riding is a bit "other worldly".

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    Great looking bike and build; I like it almost as much as my Solar Orange LES 29! ABSOLUTELY beautiful playground you get to ride in there!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MTB Pilot View Post
    Great looking bike and build; I like it almost as much as my Solar Orange LES 29! ABSOLUTELY beautiful playground you get to ride in there!!
    Thanks, the pic of Cappadocia doesn't do this place justice for interesting riding. It's really fun and different from the east coast USA riding I came from. Even my daily riding in Ankara is pretty sweet where I can do rides with 700-800 meters of climbing without trying. The LES makes a huge difference on those climbs.
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    Man, you need to post some of those pix on our FB page! That's an amazing place....
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    Just finished the build.
    Size large.
    Race face Next SL crankset, dm 32t Narrow wide chainring, BB92 RF BB,X01 cassette+derailleur+11 speed shifter all black.
    RF Next SL stearer, Turbine Stem.
    Light Bicycle hookless 30mm inside width rims, Pillar spokes, Novatec D772SB 4 in 1 hub.
    XTR trail brakes on front Formula discs180mm and rear 160mm.
    SDG I-beam carbon seatpost+ Formula fx saddle, Hope blue seat collar.
    SID 100mm fork.
    First test ride:
    Noisy chain on the 2 smallest rear cogs. Sound is like a new chain on an old cassette...I'd suppose that the hanger is straight, will check.
    Formula discs are not straight, current plan is to use XT discs that I have laying around and switch to 180mm rear.

    Happy to be back on a carbon hardtail again, I like the stiffness and feel.
    Can't wait to get her dirty


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikkie View Post
    First test ride:
    Noisy chain on the 2 smallest rear cogs. Sound is like a new chain on an old cassette...I'd suppose that the hanger is straight, will check.
    It could be the cassette. i have had nothing but problems with xo1 cassettes on this bike. I even had sram warranty the first one because of the noise saying it was defective after 2k miles, only to have the new one make the same friggin noise after 1000 miles.

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    Apologies for resurrecting this thread. Also in the market for a 29er LES.

    How have the Medium and Large sizes worked out for you folks in the 5'10" to 6' height range?

    I'm 5'11" with long arms (lanky climber type). Both Pivot and my local shop are recommending the medium. Seems I would have to run either a 90 or 100mm stem, which goes against the short stem trend that seems to be all the rage these days. Bike would be setup for XC riding / racing.

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    I'm just shy of 6ft. 185lbs., I ride a medium frame. My Les is set up for trail use with 120mm fork, 740mm bars, KS Lev integra dropper, Hans Dampf front and Nobby Nic rear. I presently use a 80mm stem, but could use a 70mm if I adjust the angle of the riser bar. The bike fits me perfectly, comfortable to ride and handles great.
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    I'm 5'9" with longer legs than torso. I'm on a Les 27.5 so I'm not sure how different the geometry is. I ride a medium with 70mm stem and 740mm bars. Very happy with the fit.

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    Great. Thanks guys! Pivot is doing a demo day later this month in my area, probably best I get on both sizes.

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    I am building up a large LES 29 with a fox 120 fork. Does anyone have input on whether the bike handles best with a 44mm or 51mm fork (with 120mm travel)?

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    pivot Les 27.5

    I recently built this 27.5 Les, medium. I love it, I was a die hard 26" rider, this thing feels just like a 26er only faster. spec'd as follows:

    RS SID XX w/ hyd remote

    Reynolds XC carbon wheelset

    Loaded Xlite ti stem

    chris king headset inset2

    raceface SL bars 735mm 18 rise 7 sweep

    Red monkey grips

    Maxxis Ikon tires

    Shimano XTR M9000 race brakes

    Shimano XT rotors 160mm

    3T Doric Team seat post

    Specialized Romin carbon seat

    Rotor Rex1 Crank w/ 34T Qring

    shimano XTR M9000 11x rear deraileur

    XTR M9000 11spd close step 11-40 cassette

    Rotor BB PF 92

    Shimano XTR M9000 pedals

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    Has anyone had this happen to their Les yet? I'm hoping its just the logo.

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    Do the quarter test - tap the frame with a quarter around the crack then on the crack. If you hear a duller, more thudding kind of a sound that sounds different than elsewhere you prob have a crack in the carbon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SDMTB'er View Post
    Do the quarter test - tap the frame with a quarter around the crack then on the crack. If you hear a duller, more thudding kind of a sound that sounds different than elsewhere you prob have a crack in the carbon.
    I did the feel test and it feels cracked. Bummer.

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    how do you think this happened? how far was your seat post inserted into the tube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by team huffy View Post
    how do you think this happened? how far was your seat post inserted into the tube?
    no clue how it happened, just know that my seat post was making a lot of noise lately and i thought maybe it was time to get a new post. Also, where it cracked is where i used to have my post probably for a long time. Finally had a fit done with Chris at BR and he moved me back down. So where that crack happened is where my seatpost sat for months.

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    The crack seems worst at the rear part of the tube. Like the saddle took a blow from behind or heavy hit on the tip of the saddle...
    Anyway, still looks like a warranty case imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikkie View Post
    The crack seems worst at the rear part of the tube. Like the saddle took a blow from behind or heavy hit on the tip of the saddle...
    Anyway, still looks like a warranty case imo.
    You saying I am fat?

    I cannot even picture how the saddle could take that sort of a shot unless it feel from a distance upside down.

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    haha, certainly not, I've broken saddle yokes because of a bad landing even though I was well below the allowed maximum weight.
    It's about peak forces...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikkie View Post
    haha, certainly not, I've broken saddle yokes because of a bad landing even though I was well below the allowed maximum weight.
    It's about peak forces...
    Definitely not even close to the maximum height on that post. Haven't had too many bad landings that i can think of. slid on my ass a few times, but i ended up taking the brunt and not the bike.

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    Happy to say pivot gave me a new frame within 24 hrs, no hassle whatsoever. Great customer service as always.

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    So, I'm looking at the Les 29 (and Tranny 29 too), and wonder if anyone can help out with a few Q's.

    Will the Les comfortably take a Hans Dampf 2.35?
    What's the bb height with a 120mm fork?
    How easily and how far down will a rigid post drop into the seat tube? (I like to be able to raise and lower a rigid post on the fly, so smooth insertion and lots of unobstructed seat tube are pretty useful for me.)
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    4 people I ride with ride the Les 29". 2 of them have cracked already. One was repaired (Pivot offered a replacement for over $1000), and the other just happened the other day (only 1 month old).
    I would love to get one myself because the guys are always bragging about how great they roll, but I'm not sure it's the beefiest frame in the world..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    4 people I ride with ride the Les 29". 2 of them have cracked already. One was repaired (Pivot offered a replacement for over $1000), and the other just happened the other day (only 1 month old).
    I would love to get one myself because the guys are always bragging about how great they roll, but I'm not sure it's the beefiest frame in the world..
    Pivot replaced mine at no cost and mine was after 4000 miles of use. Not sure what your friends did, but it had to be a crash or some user error.

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    Glad they took care of you. Pivot would not take care of the first one; it was done by a rock or some other object on the trail -not a crash. Not sure about the outcome of the 2nd bike yet it just happened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pauldotcom View Post
    Glad they took care of you. Pivot would not take care of the first one; it was done by a rock or some other object on the trail -not a crash. Not sure about the outcome of the 2nd bike yet it just happened.
    I've had 4 pivots, two of them cracked and pivot replaced both of them without much hassle. Response time was within 2 days on both occasions. Top notch customer service in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seandm View Post
    I've had 4 pivots, two of them cracked and pivot replaced both of them without much hassle. Response time was within 2 days on both occasions. Top notch customer service in my book.

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    I would jump at the frame replacement cost. Considering how much time they have already had on the frame, $1000 is relatively cheap compared to the cost of a new frame right now.

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    That's me

    Yeah so I'm the other guy that had the frame crack on me at the chainstay that Paul is talking about. Rock strike. Same location our other buddy cracked his frame. Pivot won't do anything. I can't say I blame them. With that said, I'm seeing and hearing about too many Pivot frames cracking. Not just Pivot, others as well. In my opinion companies are thinning out the walls of carbon bikes by trying to save weight. If you like to ride aggressive, go alum or steel unless you can afford carbon repair / replacements. Carbon will break faster than alum or steel. At least lightweight XC frames

    Quote Originally Posted by seandm View Post
    I would jump at the frame replacement cost. Considering how much time they have already had on the frame, $1000 is relatively cheap compared to the cost of a new frame right now.

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    That's me

    Yeah so I'm the other guy that had the frame crack on me at the chainstay that Paul is talking about. Rock strike. Same location our other buddy cracked his frame. Pivot won't do anything. I can't say I blame them. With that said, I'm seeing and hearing about too many Carbon frames cracking. Not just Pivot, others as well. In my opinion companies are thinning out the walls of carbon bikes by trying to save weight. If you like to ride aggressive, go alum or steel unless you can afford carbon repair / replacements. At least with lightweight XC frames.

    Quote Originally Posted by seandm View Post
    I would jump at the frame replacement cost. Considering how much time they have already had on the frame, $1000 is relatively cheap compared to the cost of a new frame right now.

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    My les is not lightweight at all imo. Weighing just under 1500g for a large.

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    uh.. what a coincidence.. I just cracked my non-drive side chainstay on what can only be called a light impact against a rock.
    I was shocked it did so much damage but my buddy stacked in front of my so I stopped short, nose wheelied, dismounted and the bike swung into the rock. I rode it hard for another 4 hours without a creak or further cracking. I currently have it being repaired by a local carbon repair shop.
    I've had it for over a year and its been the best bike I've ridden.
    I've been looking at alternatives but Ti is $$$$$.. I could break 2 of these for the price of a good custom ti with the les geo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikkie View Post
    Just finished the build.
    Size large.
    Race face Next SL crankset, dm 32t Narrow wide chainring, BB92 RF BB,X01 cassette+derailleur+11 speed shifter all black.
    RF Next SL stearer, Turbine Stem.
    Light Bicycle hookless 30mm inside width rims, Pillar spokes, Novatec D772SB 4 in 1 hub.
    XTR trail brakes on front Formula discs180mm and rear 160mm.
    SDG I-beam carbon seatpost+ Formula fx saddle, Hope blue seat collar.
    SID 100mm fork.
    First test ride:
    Noisy chain on the 2 smallest rear cogs. Sound is like a new chain on an old cassette...I'd suppose that the hanger is straight, will check.
    Formula discs are not straight, current plan is to use XT discs that I have laying around and switch to 180mm rear.

    Happy to be back on a carbon hardtail again, I like the stiffness and feel.
    Can't wait to get her dirty

    What's the weight of your bike. It looks nuts!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by CharlieDontSurf View Post
    What's the weight of your bike. It looks nuts!!


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    10,04 kg as pictured.
    switched the discs to Shimano XT 180mm.
    Mounted a KS Lev Integra 150mm dropper post, so should be around 10,5 now.

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    Pivot LES - Reviews?-pivot-les.jpg

    Just built up this beauty last week. Been riding a ByStickel hardtail for the last eight years, and while I really like it (and will probably keep it), after getting the Mach 5.7 last year, I just really like the feel of carbon and wanted something new. When a deal came up at Competitive Cyclist for a close out on the previous version, I just couldn't say no any longer. Only a few rides on it so far but very impressed. Built it up a little burlier, with a Rev 120 and big 'ol Ardent 2.4 f/r so I can tackle some rougher stuff. Also like how the 120 slackens it out a little more and raises the BB a little. Got some flat bars coming but we'll see if they make the cut as I'm kind of getting used to the low rise bars now. We'll see. Scout approves the build as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoneStar View Post
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    Just built up this beauty last week. Been riding a ByStickel hardtail for the last eight years, and while I really like it (and will probably keep it), after getting the Mach 5.7 last year, I just really like the feel of carbon and wanted something new. When a deal came up at Competitive Cyclist for a close out on the previous version, I just couldn't say no any longer. Only a few rides on it so far but very impressed. Built it up a little burlier, with a Rev 120 and big 'ol Ardent 2.4 f/r so I can tackle some rougher stuff. Also like how the 120 slackens it out a little more and raises the BB a little. Got some flat bars coming but we'll see if they make the cut as I'm kind of getting used to the low rise bars now. We'll see. Scout approves the build as well
    Where did you find a blue stem like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seandm View Post
    Where did you find a blue stem like that?
    It is the Chromag Ranger. They have them at Jenson on sale. I opted for the 80mm which seems to the be 2015 item. Light enough and looks awesome. And Chromag always seems to make quality stuff.

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    This is a replacement frame from Pivot. Cracked CS. Solid customer service in my experience.




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    Always nice to see reassuring posts like yours!

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    Thinking of grabbing one of these beauties.....would someone like to measure their medium frame and let me know what the minimum seatpost length that has to be inserted into the frame is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick0478 View Post
    Thinking of grabbing one of these beauties.....would someone like to measure their medium frame and let me know what the minimum seatpost length that has to be inserted into the frame is?
    Email Pivot cycles. They have always been pretty prompt at returning messages for me.

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