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    Wud I miss?!!??!?!?

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    Artist's rendering of new bike

    New Pivot Announced for Release in Summer 2014-image.jpgArtist's rendering of their new bike. It's a hard tail with subdued graphics.
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    You guys are killing me! Can't believe I missed the pre annoucement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D_Man View Post
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    Yeah 629c would be nice, but i don't think Pivot will make it happen
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    Jeez, it's tuesday already....nothing yet?!?

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    Patience grasshopper! Less than 2 hours to go
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    Thanks Ken!!!

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    More to come, waiting for promo video link to be unlocked.
    Also: BIG props to maindog, vinno & MTBPilot for helping us put the cat back in the bag Sunday night +Rep!
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    Whoa, that BB with 120mm fork is 13"... Otherwise I like the geo..

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    Check our facebook page for more updates (I still have to do stuff like ship people's bikes today )
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    Don't forget that we run 30% sag so the riding height will be a bit lower....
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    Whoa, that BB with 120mm fork is 13"... Otherwise I like the geo..
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    More to come, waiting for promo video link to be unlocked.
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    My pleasure!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Whoa, that BB with 120mm fork is 13"... Otherwise I like the geo..
    Why is that suprising? Same as 429c and similar bikes.

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    Very nice. Can't say that it will replace my 429C for riding in Texas with the constant rocks, but looks to be a pretty nice bike. Looking forward to getting to try it out sometime.

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    Re: New Pivot Announced for Release in Summer 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    Don't forget that we run 30% sag so the riding height will be a bit lower....
    Exactly.
    It is pretty low. Even the Mach6 seemed lower than the numbers would indicate while riding.
    I guess one needs to try one before passing any judgments.
    It's a XC bike after all, so it might be just right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Exactly.
    It is pretty low. Even the Mach6 seemed lower than the numbers would indicate while riding.
    I guess one needs to try one before passing any judgments.
    It's a XC bike after all, so it might be just right.
    Yeah, it's pretty normal for a bike in the XC travel range (12.8-13.1) . Once you start getting into trail bikes (120+ travel), it goes up with 13.2+.

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    I got to put in several miles on the aluminum prototype for this bike and I was pretty amazed at what it was capable of doing. I rode several of my favorite sections that have lots of high speed drops (1-2' tall, not Rampage stuff) and chunky rocks to skip thru and it felt completely stable. I set so many PR's on my STRAVA that some guys were asking what I was riding that day....It's def on my short list.
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    Nailed it with the geo. The blue looks nice too. I can't wait to test ride one.
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    New Pivot Announced for Release in Summer 2014

    When is the release date?


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    AAAAAAAWWWW yeah, a beauty! Not going to replace my 429c, but I know of a Trek Fuel WSD in the garage that it might replace... No problem, anything for you Kenny B!!!

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    We're actually shipping 1 Large & 1 Medium bike to each of the Demo trucks after the press camp is done. Large & Med frames are in production so those will be available first but I don't know the projected availability date. Dan23 will know those details best, I just remember that we're trying to get them here ASAP
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    More to come, waiting for promo video link to be unlocked.
    Also: BIG props to maindog, vinno & MTBPilot for helping us put the cat back in the bag Sunday night +Rep!
    More bikes or information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    Whoa, that BB with 120mm fork is 13"... Otherwise I like the geo..
    Sounds pretty much spot on to me. The Solo is 13.1 w/ a 130mm fork & 125mm rear travel, the Flux is 12.8 w/ 120 & 120.

    I absolutely love the rest of the geo too. With chainstay and wheelbase measurements nearly identical to a TRc (looking at size L), it should be a wicked fun bike. And with the DW link you know it's gonna be super efficient as well.
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    Yeah, the geometry numbers look really good to me. Was hoping for maybe a lee-tle more travel, maybe 130mm, but otherwise this is the bike I've been waiting for Pivot to release for about two years now. Yippee!!!

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    Just more info, mainly the promo video posted above. We're also showing more complete Phoenix bikes with final graphics.
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    Nice job. 115mm, 155mm. Not too hard to figure out what fits in between.

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    Kudos to CC and the Pivot crew...Looks like a lot of great ideas went into this bike. Nice work.

    CS645-Thats what I was thinking, 130mm to fill the gap which is really close what the 27.5 modded Mach 5.7 is.

    I would love to own this bike, with 29r wheels of course. Love the updates and dropped weight.

    Pivot please update the 429C when you get the chance..Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    More to come, waiting for promo video link to be unlocked.
    Also: BIG props to maindog, vinno & MTBPilot for helping us put the cat back in the bag Sunday night +Rep!
    Sorry about the posting pre release I guess when we are on the other side of the world we sometimes get to stumble on things that the rest of you might not see as your asleep.

    Anyway it is close to what I was hoping for only that I recently bought a 429 Carbon so will be waiting a while for a new Pivot to add to the stable. The Geo numbers are close to my 429 C with 120 fork so it looks like it will be a fast trail bike or longish travel XC bike. Love the weight and short wheelbase. I assume you could slacken the head angle with a longer fork for those who want a little slacker. I also like the graphics and colour options.

    For me it is probably the Goldilocks bike, just right.

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    Who's the skinny geeky kid in the video?
    Because, one is never enough.

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    Ha! Fans everywhere
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    No XL Giving up on us tall guys?

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    Well if I were into XC I might love it, but I'm not...so I don't. I little more travel and a little slacker & I'd be very curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by turfnsurf View Post
    Well if I were into XC I might love it, but I'm not...so I don't. I little more travel and a little slacker & I'd be very curious.
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    We're going with the same logic as the Les 27.5 in thinking that riders who would fit an XL frame are more likely to just go with a 29" wheel bike. NOT giving up on the tall guys!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gfs69 View Post
    No XL Giving up on us tall guys?
    Yep! That's what you get for picking on us short guys in school.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    We're going with the same logic as the Les 27.5 in thinking that riders who would fit an XL frame are more likely to just go with a 29" wheel bike. NOT giving up on the tall guys!
    I hear you, now let's see a 529!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by edbraunbeck View Post
    Yep! That's what you get for picking on us short guys in school.
    Not me, I was too busy chasin' the ladies, to pick on the shorties!

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    We will start shipping in the Fall, larger quantities world wide in late October/November time frame.

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    Re: New Pivot Announced for Release in Summer 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzanova View Post
    It is pretty low. Even the Mach6 seemed lower than the numbers would indicate while riding.
    I guess one needs to try one before passing any judgments.
    It's a XC bike after all, so it might be just right.
    Why is everyone saying it's low when it's the same height as the 429c and other bikes like the Turner Czar, Flux, etc ?

    What am I missing?

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    When will this cable routing be applied to the mach 6?

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    Was hoping for a ~5", light, do it all bike similar to the Sight and solo...looks cool enough though and plenty fast. When's the Mach 5 Carbon come out?

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    What's retail for frame only? I guess Pivot is moving away from aluminum. It'd be nice to have that option for those that don't want to pony up for carbon. I know, can't please everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinno View Post
    Sorry about the posting pre release I guess when we are on the other side of the world we sometimes get to stumble on things that the rest of you might not see as your asleep.

    Anyway it is close to what I was hoping for only that I recently bought a 429 Carbon so will be waiting a while for a new Pivot to add to the stable. The Geo numbers are close to my 429 C with 120 fork so it looks like it will be a fast trail bike or longish travel XC bike. Love the weight and short wheelbase. I assume you could slacken the head angle with a longer fork for those who want a little slacker. I also like the graphics and colour options.

    For me it is probably the Goldilocks bike, just right.
    thanks vinno

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    I have a question on rear shock mounting. With a lot of frames these days it is difficult or impossible to fit a large bottle inside the frame. Consensus has been to turn the shock around to clear the lever. Why don't manufacturers sell the bike with the shock turned around in the first place to have the lever at the rear and more out of the way? Also is it OK to do this with this bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden boy View Post
    What's retail for frame only? I guess Pivot is moving away from aluminum. It'd be nice to have that option for those that don't want to pony up for carbon. I know, can't please everyone!
    Frame $2899 and frame kit $3799

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    We're going with the same logic as the Les 27.5 in thinking that riders who would fit an XL frame are more likely to just go with a 29" wheel bike. NOT giving up on the tall guys!
    So because I am 6'3", I get punished with only having a 29er option. That's not logic, that sounds like our federal government's type of thinking. I'm sure Pivot will loose a number of sales with that type of thinking......shame shame shame

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life View Post
    So because I am 6'3", I get punished with only having a 29er option. That's not logic, that sounds like our federal government's type of thinking. I'm sure Pivot will loose a number of sales with that type of thinking......shame shame shame
    I don't think punished is the right word. Maybe just unfortunate if you are a die hard Pivot fan. I am in the same sizing boat but look at it this way: there are a lot of other manufacturers with options out there so even the tall guys have a lot of great 27.5 choices, just not Pivots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qheuie View Post
    I don't think punished is the right word. Maybe just unfortunate if you are a die hard Pivot fan. I am in the same sizing boat but look at it this way: there are a lot of other manufacturers with options out there so even the tall guys have a lot of great 27.5 choices, just not Pivots.
    What would be the correct word? Because I'm a big fan of the M4 and 650B.......and had my sights on trying a short travel FS 650B Pivot. So 2015 is out for us tall guys and gals.

    I will hold onto my M4 for another 18 months......maybe I will put a 650B front wheel on it and enjoy my other 650B bikes

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    It's no problem running the shock "reversed" but not everybody wants to run it that way (less moving weight, don't run bigger bottles, etc..) so we just send it out with the lever forward and let the riders decide how they prefer to set it up. AFAIK this frame has clearance for a full size bottle as is. I'm slated to do some suspension testing on one of the bikes this week so I'll be able to test out bottle fit then.
    Quote Originally Posted by Vinno View Post
    I have a question on rear shock mounting. With a lot of frames these days it is difficult or impossible to fit a large bottle inside the frame. Consensus has been to turn the shock around to clear the lever. Why don't manufacturers sell the bike with the shock turned around in the first place to have the lever at the rear and more out of the way? Also is it OK to do this with this bike?
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