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    Quote Originally Posted by confused View Post
    So we have mixed reviews on DH capability. Im looking for that "one" bike that can pedal extremely well longer distances and also do a "little" park bike riding. Also im 200 lbs and ride chunk fest Az trails, will it hang?
    I haven't seen anything but great reviews on its DH performance. Sure it has a slightly higher BB which is great if you ride mostly chunky technical terrain like in AZ where the bike was developed, I'm sure it will hange. I'm looking at this bike for the Alps where it will see 20% climbing to 80% descending on natural Singletrack.

    Can you fit a coil on the Mach 6? Judging from the photos I would say no but I could be wrong.
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    I have 12 years of DH experience and over the past year started weening myself off,sold my Dh bike and built a Intense SS2 for ride parks and shuttles to appease the extreme in me.I also had a Carbine and found that it was very capable at ride parks,Dh runs and a whole lotta fun too.now that I have a Mach 6 I can tell you that it is much more stable,stiffer,you can push it into turns and will track and hold a line with little or no instability,after the flexy rear on the Carbine this is a joy! also very stable and flickable in the air,the rear sus smooths out the harshest terrain.all in all this bike delivers for multiple discipline riders!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontarin View Post
    I tried out the Mach 6 at a recent demo in Austin. The demo was moved to one of the more technical trails in town (lots of rocks, ledges, technical climbs), so it was a perfect place to test the bike. First time on a 650B. I usually ride a 29er.

    Geometry was dialed for me. I was on a small (5'6"), and I think it had about a 70 stem on it. I instantly felt at home and there was very little time getting used to the bike, which is good, because the trail I was on was technical from the start.

    I was impressed by the climbing for a bike with this much travel. I expected a bit more bob or to feel the weight of the bike more. Ledges were fairly easy to get over. The bike seemed fairly stiff. I did notice a bit less rollover, as there were 2-3 places I usually just roll up on the 29er and I got stuck on the 650B, but overall, it wasn't as pronounced as I expected.

    Descending was great. I didn't really have to watch my line that closely on the multiple ledges in a row like I do on the 4 travel 29er. It felt pretty plush, and took multiple hits well.

    I wish I could have pushed a bit harder, but I had done an 8 hour ride the day before, and was pretty stiff from that. Some of the climbs I knew I could have made had I been fresh and not nursing aching legs.
    Was that at the moto trails? I saw it got moved. Having ridden the Firebird there, I can imagine it would be a lot of fun on a lighter bike and with 650 wheels.
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    Mach 6 Review Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    Was that at the moto trails? I saw it got moved. Having ridden the Firebird there, I can imagine it would be a lot of fun on a lighter bike and with 650 wheels.
    Yep, that's where it was. My buddy rode the 650b firebird while I was on the Mach. He had fun taking the worst lines and just rolling through them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fontarin View Post
    Yep, that's where it was. My buddy rode the 650b firebird while I was on the Mach. He had fun taking the worst lines and just rolling through them.
    Nice! Yeah that place is fun, as long as you're going down haha. I just didn't have the energy when I went to muscle up all the climbs, and it was warm back then too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    Nice! Yeah that place is fun, as long as you're going down haha. I just didn't have the energy when I went to muscle up all the climbs, and it was warm back then too.
    I didn't get to try out the climbing as much as I would have liked. I had done the EB the day before, so my legs were pretty much toast entering the ride. I lacked a good bit of my usual power and didn't clear things I should have been able to.

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    I recently demoed the Mach6 and really liked it. Had it for about an hour and half on a trail I did not know so my impressions of course could be more accurate if I had more time on the bike and on the trail. However, it felt flickable and precise, it went through rocks and drops easily. I was impressed with Fox 34 performance but did note love it. The bike kept speed amazingly, something I atribute to the wheels and the weight, and was easier to pop off the ground than my Firebird. I would not trade in my Firebird for it, but If I could have another bike it would be the Mach6. Putting 650b on my Firebird for sure.
    Great bike.

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    Any one know the retail on the xt/xtr pro build?

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    Re: Mach 6 Review Thread

    Right from the Pivot price sheet I grabbed at the demo:
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    Perfect. Thanks.

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    I just got a large Mach 6 at Incycles on Saturday. First 2 hour ride up in local (Pasadena) trails got my blood flowin for sure. I really like the climbing characteristics more than I thought I would...and I'm a climber. Plus the DH settings make for some great travel and made me super comfy on the drops as well as some surprises after the recent rain. So far I've only changed out the saddle, the grips and converted the wheel/tires to tubeless, as well as adding the Stealth dropper. So far so good. More words to come...

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    Glad to hear you picked that one up. They called me to say it was available, but I am waiting for a frame only. Pics?

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    I dropped a lot of air pressure from mine and the suspension is now working more like what I wanted. Like others have said, it feels plush but pedals well. When climbing I do find myself reaching for the CTD shock lever quite a bit though - either Trail or Climb modes - as in Descend I get some very noticeable bobbing that I do not get on my SB95c. Might be the additional travel, smaller wheels, or suspension design - probably a combo of those things.

    Just a couple rides so far, I need to put in some big trail miles to get to know this bike better. Stupid snow. Should melt off the foothills nicely in the next day or so.

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    How is the clearance in the rear of the Mach 6 for bigger tires?
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    Highroller II 2.4 work great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    Highroller II 2.4 work great!
    Thanks. Could you give us a measurement of the clearance at the tightest spots with that tire?
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    Sorry no,have 2.35's on as of now,but switch back and forth.had no issues running them.

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    Continental has the 2.4" Trail King/Rubber Queen on their website in 650B. Anyone tried one in the back of a Mach 6? I'd be really keen to know if they work.
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    Unfortunately I have no direct experience with the M6 but I do have the Firebird 27.5. A 2.35 Schwalbe Nobby Nic just barely fits the Bird. A 2.4 Maxxis High Roller II fits nicely since Maxxis always seems to run on the small side. The M6 has better clearance then the Firebird 27.5 so I would bet it comfortably handles any of the 27.5 tires available up to 2.4. Schwalbe are typically the largest tires out there and if they fit the Bird they will fit the M6.

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    Already a used Mach 6 on the market here medium XX1!

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    [EDIT] Added weights...i'd be pretty happy if this comes in at 27lbs.

    Mine should be ready to ride Saturday.
    Any guesses on weight?

    Size Medium (frame, thru axle, seat clamp, fox floatx) 2950
    Seat - Fizik Aliante Gamma Kium White 259
    Post - G.D. LP turbo 5"/1" 460
    Grips - Oury lock on white 152
    bars - Havoc Carbon 233
    Stem - Thomson 70mm 0 degree silver 141
    Headset - Chris King silver 156
    Bottom Bracket - Chris King 100
    Brakes - XT 2014 Version 590
    Fork - FOX 34 Talas CTD Kashima 150 1996
    Shock - FloatX incl. w/frame
    Shifters XX1 121
    Cranks - XX1 34T 650
    Derail. - XX1 243
    Cass. - XX1 269
    Wheels - DT350 w/36T engagement WTBi23 hoops 1690
    Tires - Maxxis HR II 2.3 front, Maxxis Ardent 2.25 rear 1585
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    grams 12247
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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Just a couple rides so far, I need to put in some big trail miles to get to know this bike better. Stupid snow. Should melt off the foothills nicely in the next day or so.
    Holy crap I just did a lunch loop with one of the better DH segments around here (Wasatch Front), and the M6 SMOKED the descent. Big embedded boulders, water bar drops, loose chunder, steep, fast, tight turns, wide turns... just so stable. And amazingly quick. Snapping this thing around corners is just a delight. It's a really cool combo of feeling like you have the DH chops to gobble up the hits but retaining the light, responsive, high performance ride of something like a BMW. "Crisp" is about the right word. Love it!

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    My small M6 XT/XTR Pro just arrived, after ordering it in early August. Yesterday was first real ride on it. Here's some comparisons and impressions. In short, it's mind-blowing. I expected it to be great on DH, in the air, etc, but I was really surprised by its climbing. It out-climbed my old 100mm 26" wheel XC Trek Fuel in all ways. To be fair, I'm not comparing it to a modern 29'er XC rig, but nonetheless...

    Background:
    I'm coming off of a 10 year old 100mm Trek XTR FS XC bike. It's (clearly) been long-overdue for a replacement for a while, and I spent a few months test riding bikes this summer before ordering the M6. I decided early-on I wanted to move away from pure XC geometry and move to a more playful/DH-confidence-inspiring bike, but I still wanted "one bike," so it had to climb as least as well as my old XC rig. Most of my riding is on tight forested PNW trails, but my favorite rides are all-day high-mountain single track, so the bike had to climb well.

    I test rode (on trail) the Mach 5.7, Mach 6 and Santa Cruz Bronson before deciding on the Mach 6. I also street-tested the SC Solo. Unfortunately I just don't fit Santa Cruz sizing. At 5' 7", I am right in between their S and M, and neither work for me. The S was too small, so I took out the M hoping it would work. The M Bronson was a great steep/technical climber (my first time on a 27.5), and the 27.5 wheels ate up roots and log rolls far better than my usual 26" XC bike. The bigger wheels disappeared sections of rooty trail that usually take significant grunt to get through. It was confidence-inspiring on DH if I left the wheels on the ground, but it felt sluggish on long gentle climbs and I found it ungainly in the air. The bike was just the wrong size for me, and I was happy to return it to the shop.

    I rode the 5.7 before the 6, and I fell in love with it. Compared to the Bronson, I immediately felt comfortable on the small 5.7. I was shocked how fast I could take DH corners on otherwise familiar trails. The thing rails. Steep technical climbs were good, although maintaining traction required more fore/aft body adjustment than on the Bronson. It felt light on long grinding climbs and was far better in the air than the Bronson (fit matters). But I was ruined, having ridden a 27.5 wheel. The same rooty sections that the Bronson devoured were back to being annoying on the 5.7, and I missed the increased climbing traction. Nevertheless, it was hard to give the 5.7 back to the shop---I liked it a lot.

    Then I rode the M6. And ordered it that same day. The M6 combines the strengths of the 5.7 and the Bronson. The S M6 fits me perfectly. It's endlessly confidence-inspiring on DHs, especially cornering (!!), and it feels better in the air than the already-great 5.7. I expected the M6 to be great on DH and it is. The 27.5 + 6" travel cruises steep log rolls and roots (much better than the 5.7). But what really surprised me is how well the M6 climbs. I tested it yesterday on long gentle climbs, steep technical climbs, and fast/sprinty chase-a-friend-to-the-top climbs, and it left me with no reason to ever ride my 26" 100mm XC bike again. I cleared multiple sections of steep climb that I've never been able to ride clean before (> 7 years on these trails), and it felt plenty rigid on fast pursuits (with suspension in middle "trail" setting). Yes, the M6 is a bit heavier than the 5.7 (roughly 1 - 1.5 lbs of beefier frame + longer suspension + larger wheels?), but it's absolutely worth the weight penalty to have *that* much more fun.
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    Finally got to ride one at the demo yesterday. Really liked the wheel size. I actually ended up taking out an XL because the L was always gone. Didn't notice a sizing difference change at all. I'm wondering if the bigger wheels and bigger frame made it feel more comfortable like it was similarly proportioned. I was instantly comfortable on the bike, great climbing, ripped turns no problem, and just seemed to fly going down. Definitely noticed that it felt stiffer. I forgot to check how much travel I ended up using. I did the same loop afterwards on the Firebird and it was much tougher, although I was tired by then.

    Overall, it seems like a great blend of lighter weight, wheel size, descending and climbing abilities all wrapped into one. I just wish I could ride it on this one trail in NorCal to see if I was faster, and get some lengthy descents on it.

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    Friend of mine canceled his Bronson order after riding my Mach 6!

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