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    Mach 5.7 CARBON

    only one pic so far but Im sure details are coming shortly

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    I need lots and lots more info! I hope this is at Outerbike
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    I snapped these yesterday,

    please don't quote me on this, it was late in the (beer) day..

    5 ish lbs

    $400 ish more

    available very soon!!!!!!!!






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    Pivot told me yesterday they could not confirm nor deny a carbon 5.7, and today my Pivot dealer said it'd be out in the Spring after they get some built and tested.

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    Well, i was at Dealer Camp yesterday and they had frames and complete bikes on display. They were not available to test ride but they are going to be available for sale soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by YamaLink View Post
    Pivot told me yesterday they could not confirm nor deny a carbon 5.7, and today my Pivot dealer said it'd be out in the Spring after they get some built and tested.
    I would guess that you called us before the frames were shown at Dealer Camp. For obvious reasons we couldn't say anything until they made their debut.

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    Probably. I called yesterday around noon PST.
    I'm a DW Link fan, and the 5.7 specs fit my needs. Unfortunately the delivery is so far in the future that my next bike purchase timing is a tad off. Maybe the next next purchase will be that carbon 5.7; looks great.

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    I would guess that you called us before the frames were shown at Dealer Camp. For obvious reasons we couldn't say anything until they made their debut.

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    I hope it's available soon! Any information on when? I'm ready to buy something now - this looks like a real contender!

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    @krispy thanks for the pics you rock mang.
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    MOAR PICS PLEASE. Pretty please?

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    Waiting patiently for the 29er version so I can sell all my frames to get it. I hope they get it right the first time like they did with my 429. I'm sick of being a beta tester.

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    Those graphics are terrible! Makes the bike look cheap- love the frame- can't wait for the specs

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    Quote Originally Posted by saxen View Post
    Those graphics are terrible! Makes the bike look cheap- love the frame- can't wait for the specs
    I agree about the graphics! I'm not usually that particular, but those are LOUD. I don't like a bike that yells its name like that. By contrast, the Ibis Mojo SL-R is nicely understated.

    Still, this bike looks awesome! Can't wait to get more details!

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    Great.

    Just when I was set on the SLR...

    Would be nice to know the specs.
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    Nice one... When this frame will available in Asia?

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    +3 on the graphics, FUGLY!
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    I also agree. Too much with the logo / graphics. Keep it simple & classy.

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    I also agree on graphics, its a little to much. Maybe there is less graphics on some of the other color options? Anyone know in what colors the frame will be avaliable?

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    +6 better graphics needed

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    I'd take that frame with the graphics.

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    I was thinking that perhaps I'd upgrade from my 5.7 if it had water bottle mounts inside the front triangle, and it does. Uh-oh.
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    Hey Pivot,
    Why Carbon? I know you saw no need for a while, or at least I remember reading some where you would only offer carbon when it was appreciably better than you aluminum frames. Given how well your aluminum frames are, I would love to know what is changed in your minds. There is no doubt it will sell well (I can't wait to get one). However, given how well you have done with aluminum, I think that your perspective on what carbon offers would be welcome.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onobed View Post
    Hey Pivot,
    Why Carbon? I know you saw no need for a while, or at least I remember reading some where you would only offer carbon when it was appreciably better than you aluminum frames. Given how well your aluminum frames are, I would love to know what is changed in your minds. There is no doubt it will sell well (I can't wait to get one). However, given how well you have done with aluminum, I think that your perspective on what carbon offers would be welcome.

    Thanks.
    Out of curiosity, why do you want one?

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    Quote Originally Posted by onobed View Post
    Hey Pivot,
    Why Carbon? I know you saw no need for a while, or at least I remember reading some where you would only offer carbon when it was appreciably better than you aluminum frames. Given how well your aluminum frames are, I would love to know what is changed in your minds. There is no doubt it will sell well (I can't wait to get one). However, given how well you have done with aluminum, I think that your perspective on what carbon offers would be welcome.

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    Why I want one

    Quote Originally Posted by bauhaus View Post
    Out of curiosity, why do you want one?
    That's a fair question. Here are the reasons:

    - I think carbon is a better material. Airplanes in the 80s were made of aluminum. Think 737. Airplanes today are made of carbon fiber (think 787). I feel carbon frames will last longer and survive crashes better than aluminum. Of course when carbon goes there is usually no warning.

    - It is usually six or seven years for me between mountain bikes. When I buy a new one I usually get the newest model offered and it has worked well for me - I have one of the earliest Intense Spiders, Breezer Lightnings and VooDoo D-Jabs. Inevitably the second version of a new model tends to be better as the manufacturers work out the kinks. However I am not patient enough to wait.

    - Weight. I used to subscribe to the notion at weight doesn't matter. That was before I was fortunate enough to afford durable lightweight parts. The difference between a 29 pound bike and 24 pound bike for me is about 5 minutes for every 1000 feet vertical.

    That about covers it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onobed View Post
    That's a fair question. Here are the reasons:

    - I think carbon is a better material. Airplanes in the 80s were made of aluminum. Think 737. Airplanes today are made of carbon fiber (think 787). I feel carbon frames will last longer and survive crashes better than aluminum. Of course when carbon goes there is usually no warning.

    - It is usually six or seven years for me between mountain bikes. When I buy a new one I usually get the newest model offered and it has worked well for me - I have one of the earliest Intense Spiders, Breezer Lightnings and VooDoo D-Jabs. Inevitably the second version of a new model tends to be better as the manufacturers work out the kinks. However I am not patient enough to wait.

    - Weight. I used to subscribe to the notion at weight doesn't matter. That was before I was fortunate enough to afford durable lightweight parts. The difference between a 29 pound bike and 24 pound bike for me is about 5 minutes for every 1000 feet vertical.

    That about covers it.
    I think that your reasons are some of the many that Pivot has been hearing about the attributes of carbon. Pivot is just supplying what their customers demand. While there will certainly always be a market for other materials, I think that we will see more and more full suspension carbon frames in mountain biking.

    I drank the carbon and 29er koolaid at the same time and bought a Tallboy and have loved every minute of it. I still have my beloved Mach 5, but I took an instant liking to the TB and have hardly put it down since.

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    While the new frame is lighter, Pivot marketing manager Tim Jackson says the benefits of switching to carbon go beyond just weight.

    "It's not a vast weight difference," he told Cyclingnews. "The difference is in the ride characteristic of carbon – it's a bit stiffer, has the lower vibration of carbon and with the integrated frame protector, it's mighty quiet, too."


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    Quote Originally Posted by onobed View Post
    Hey Pivot,
    Why Carbon? I know you saw no need for a while, or at least I remember reading some where you would only offer carbon when it was appreciably better than you aluminum frames. Given how well your aluminum frames are, I would love to know what is changed in your minds. There is no doubt it will sell well (I can't wait to get one). However, given how well you have done with aluminum, I think that your perspective on what carbon offers would be welcome.

    Thanks.
    You are correct. Chris has always said, we will make changes to our models when we find new improvements that will increase the performance of our frames. Performance has been the driving factor behind all of our designs at Pivot. If we can change the way we make something and it will increase the overall performance of the bike, then we will do it.

    Carbon provides us with a half pound weight savings over the Mach 5.7, it also allows us to increase the BB and HT torsional stiffness by 10%. These are significant improvements, and warrant the change. We always knew we would move towards Carbon Fiber, and this is the year the Mach 5.7 get's it's Carbon Brother.
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    Carbon 5.7 has really nice clean lines aesthetically and as a side-effect it probably is lot easier to clean than current version.
    We are at the beginning of the muddy season and cleaning lower pivot + FD area with all the holes, profiles and recessions causes fair amount of extra work after every ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markom View Post
    Carbon 5.7 has really nice clean lines aesthetically and as a side-effect it probably is lot easier to clean than current version.
    We are at the beginning of the muddy season and cleaning lower pivot + FD area with all the holes, profiles and recessions causes fair amount of extra work after every ride.
    It is a pain to clean isn't it? And I'm in Colorado where it's dry. The good news is all that machining had to save quite a bit of weight at least.

    At least it looks like you can actually get at the front derailleur now. FD setup on the Mach 5.7 was the most difficult on any mountain bike I've ridden. Not impossible mind you, just a pain in the ass and took a few tricks for optimum setup (which I figured out when installing it).
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    Quote Originally Posted by krispy@go-ride.com View Post
    Well, i was at Dealer Camp yesterday and they had frames and complete bikes on display. They were not available to test ride but they are going to be available for sale soon!
    Your MTBR quote of the year is funny, but not very accurate. Most composites on bicycles are thermoset. The only thermoplastic bicycle frame I can think of are the old GT STS from the late 90's.
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    The other thing - I've had identical aluminum, then carbon bikes. Being a clyde in size, weight, and strength - I really appreciate the increase in strength and stiffness. Rode the aluminum one day, swapped parts the next on to the new frame and they just weren't even close. So I'd imagine the carbon 5.7 will be awesome(er) than the aluminum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    It is a pain to clean isn't it? And I'm in Colorado where it's dry. The good news is all that machining had to save quite a bit of weight at least.

    At least it looks like you can actually get at the front derailleur now. FD setup on the Mach 5.7 was the most difficult on any mountain bike I've ridden. Not impossible mind you, just a pain in the ass and took a few tricks for optimum setup (which I figured out when installing it).
    Yes it is a pain, I was just trying to be polite....

    My FD issues were solved last week when I installed SLX FD-M665 (2-ring specific FD) on my bike, previous part was slightly bent 10-speed XT FD which worked poorly on 2x9 speed setup. I can really recommend that FD, works fantastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markom View Post
    Yes it is a pain, I was just trying to be polite....

    My FD issues were solved last week when I installed SLX FD-M665 (2-ring specific FD) on my bike, previous part was slightly bent 10-speed XT FD which worked poorly on 2x9 speed setup. I can really recommend that FD, works fantastically.
    So you're using a 10 spd front mech with an otherwise 9 spd setup? I'm testing a 5.7 on Saturday and one of my concerns is how easy it would be to transfer my current 9spd gear across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zotan View Post
    So you're using a 10 spd front mech with an otherwise 9 spd setup? I'm testing a 5.7 on Saturday and one of my concerns is how easy it would be to transfer my current 9spd gear across.
    No, I used 10 speed front mech but the m665 is 9-speed. I managed to get the 10-speed XT work initially but it was never as good as this SLX.
    This FD is supercheap - e.g. Competitive cyclist is selling them for 22$!

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    Quote Originally Posted by markom View Post
    No, I used 10 speed front mech but the m665 is 9-speed. I managed to get the 10-speed XT work initially but it was never as good as this SLX.
    This FD is supercheap - e.g. Competitive cyclist is selling them for 22$!
    Ah, brain is warming up now. Still confused though. Acccording to this link:
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    The FD-M655 is not avilable in direct mount format. You have to get the M661 for that, which is for triples.

    I'm looking to transfer my SLX 36/22 double with bash to a 5.7 So I'd need a direct mount Front Mech?

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    Quote Originally Posted by markom View Post
    Yes it is a pain, I was just trying to be polite....

    My FD issues were solved last week when I installed SLX FD-M665 (2-ring specific FD) on my bike, previous part was slightly bent 10-speed XT FD which worked poorly on 2x9 speed setup. I can really recommend that FD, works fantastically.
    My FD is shifting fine (except occasionally jamming when switching from middle to small ring that I haven't figured out yet).

    I was more referring to the fact that you have to attach the cable before you bolt on the derailleur and other things like taking the crank off to get to it. I can't seem to get to that allen bolt on my large frame after the derailleur is installed. Adjusting it at all once it's bolted on the frame and the cranks are installed is a pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zotan View Post
    Ah, brain is warming up now. Still confused though. Acccording to this link:
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    The FD-M655 is not avilable in direct mount format. You have to get the M661 for that, which is for triples.

    I'm looking to transfer my SLX 36/22 double with bash to a 5.7 So I'd need a direct mount Front Mech?
    Zotan, you are confused. On the alloy frames we use an E-Type FD, and we remove the bracket and then directly mount it to the frame - we call it a direct mount E-Type FD, which is different than the High Direct Mount that will be used on the Carbon Mach 5.7.

    The FD-M665 that is being used, is an E-Type and works perfectly on our frames for the 2x9 crowd.

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    Thanks Dan, that was exactly the information I needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zotan View Post
    Thanks Dan, that was exactly the information I needed.
    That's what I'm here for. Happy to help! Let's all go for a ride now!
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    I would, but It's midnight and I haven't charged my lights. Don't let me stop you though :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaeckerX1 View Post
    I was more referring to the fact that you have to attach the cable before you bolt on the derailleur and other things like taking the crank off to get to it. I can't seem to get to that allen bolt on my large frame after the derailleur is installed. Adjusting it at all once it's bolted on the frame and the cranks are installed is a pain.
    Hmmm, I have changed the FD shift cable with cranks installed both on M771(?, delivered with frameset) and the M665 on my large frame. There is the hole on the chainstay which was supposed to be used when adjusting the FD but it does not align with the cable mounting bolt and I'm accessing the bolt under the chainstay. I'm using normal Park foldable hex set so no tricks here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markom View Post
    Hmmm, I have changed the FD shift cable with cranks installed both on M771(?, delivered with frameset) and the M665 on my large frame. There is the hole on the chainstay which was supposed to be used when adjusting the FD but it does not align with the cable mounting bolt and I'm accessing the bolt under the chainstay. I'm using normal Park foldable hex set so no tricks here.
    I couldn't get to it on the SRAM XX double or the X9 triple that I installed when I went to 3x10 crank with bash. I'm assuming the Shimanos are completely different with a different bolt location. Fack, maybe I should have gotten a Shimano FD. Oh well, too late now.

    The only thing I wish I could figure out is why my chain jams when dropping to the low ring in the front. I know it only happens when I make a bad shift (last minute drop to small ring before a big uphill while still in 11T on the cassette), but still it shouldn't really happen. On my 2x9 setup on my Tomac Snyper I didn't have a single unusable gear, and 22/11 isn't exactly a complete cross chain. It's not exactly the perfect gear combination or best technique true, but it shouldn't jam in the FD when changing either.

    Oh and I wish I could run some sort of dual ring guide!!!! I've dropped my chain off the inside several times on rocky terrain despite a solid limit screw adjustment. Other than that I'm completely in love with my 5.7!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan23 View Post
    We always knew we would move towards Carbon Fiber, and this is the year the Mach 5.7 get's it's Carbon Brother.
    So Dan, does this mean there's a Carbon Mach 5 on the horizon? That would be NICE!

    Couple comments though. It doesn't take much of a stretch of the chain stays to fit 650b's (yeah, I drank way too much of the 29er kool aid)... make your frames adaptable to either wheel size and you'll be batting a 1,000 with a WHOLE bunch of folks!

    Second, keep your head tube length under 135mm and you can put a Lefty 140 on that thing and have a sub-25lb All Mountain rig that will eat the Colorado Trail for lunch!

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    No more Mach 5's at all, the 5.7 replaced it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    No more Mach 5's at all, the 5.7 replaced it.
    Well, maybe a Carbon Mach 4.5 then... the difference between Endurance Rig and Free Ride!
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    Quote Originally Posted by markom View Post
    Carbon 5.7 has really nice clean lines aesthetically and as a side-effect it probably is lot easier to clean than current version.
    We are at the beginning of the muddy season and cleaning lower pivot + FD area with all the holes, profiles and recessions causes fair amount of extra work after every ride.
    I wonder why they didn't route the cables through the frame. That would have really finished out the lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edbraunbeck View Post
    I wonder why they didn't route the cables through the frame. That would have really finished out the lines.
    Because anyone who has ever owned or used internal routing knows its not worth the trouble. Ask any bike mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by syadasti View Post
    Because anyone who has ever owned or used internal routing knows its not worth the trouble. Ask any bike mechanic.
    What are the problems from routing them through the frame? Besides the initial feeding of them.

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    What size tires can the 5.7 frame deal with? One of the things I like about the firebird is there are no worries about tire clearance issues, at least for me. If the carbon 5.7 can handle huge tires that gives it a leg up on the SLR for me.

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    Anyone knows if the 5.7 Carbon will be available without the decals? Something simply that echoes the style of the black anodized 5.7 alu?

    Why does Pivot always have to put some terrible decals on their bike? I dealt with the decals on my Firebird and now on my Phoenix but come on! This is going too far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louiffe1 View Post
    Anyone knows if the 5.7 Carbon will be available without the decals? Something simply that echoes the style of the black anodized 5.7 alu?

    Why does Pivot always have to put some terrible decals on their bike? I dealt with the decals on my Firebird and now on my Phoenix but come on! This is going too far.
    The decals are sort of a turn-off. They have yet to grow on me, and the colors themselves seem lame, not to mention they're HUGE. Maybe they will be stickers and you won't have to put them on. I'd be fine with it all black, and just the headtube badge, and perhaps a Pivot sticker on the chainstays....
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    Seems to be a common gripe with this bike. I emailed Pivot directly with the very same question. They said you never know what may be in the pipeline and graphics change yearly. She asked for any suggestions on graphics and I said carbon black with a head badge. Perhaps if enough people email they may listen. For me the current graphics might be a deal breaker...

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    It looks like the Mach 5.7 carbon frames won't be ready in Oct, after all. I was told today that they were looking at shipping in late Nov. Bummer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ezen1234 View Post
    Seems to be a common gripe with this bike. I emailed Pivot directly with the very same question. They said you never know what may be in the pipeline and graphics change yearly. She asked for any suggestions on graphics and I said carbon black with a head badge. Perhaps if enough people email they may listen. For me the current graphics might be a deal breaker...
    Carbon black with the graphics in a graphite or darker gray would look pretty sweet too. See Intense's new Carbine frame for an example. It's also a good riding bike, had it out on the Slickrock trail.

    Saw the Carbon 5.7 at Outerbike, and it's a pretty sweet looking frame in person. Graphics don't seem as bad in person, but perhaps it's because the frame itself looks so badass. It really does look stiff. Didn't get to ride it though, it was in high demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DLd View Post
    The decals are sort of a turn-off. They have yet to grow on me, and the colors themselves seem lame, not to mention they're HUGE. Maybe they will be stickers and you won't have to put them on. I'd be fine with it all black, and just the headtube badge, and perhaps a Pivot sticker on the chainstays....
    Personally I love the color sceme they have on the M4x... If they had those yellow decals on the carbon I would be all over it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ezen1234 View Post
    Seems to be a common gripe with this bike. I emailed Pivot directly with the very same question. They said you never know what may be in the pipeline and graphics change yearly. She asked for any suggestions on graphics and I said carbon black with a head badge. Perhaps if enough people email they may listen. For me the current graphics might be a deal breaker...
    I agree, deal-breaker graphics... something stealthy would be nice.

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    Even just carbon black with the Pivot name outlined (see Mach5.7 black frame). Or how about carbon black front triangle with just a 5.7 near the head tube with the Pivot name on the rear triangle?

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    Any new word as to when the 5.7 Carbons will be delivered? The last I heard was mid-late November.
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    Late November is the last that I heard as well. I just wonder though because someone posted a question on Pivot's facebook page asking if the small 5.7 carbons would not be available until January. They asked this question but Pivot has not posted a response yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEUT View Post
    Late November is the last that I heard as well. I just wonder though because someone posted a question on Pivot's facebook page asking if the small 5.7 carbons would not be available until January. They asked this question but Pivot has not posted a response yet.

    Waiting sucks.

    I also have an order in on a Knolly Chilcotin in their next batch of frames - which is supposed to ship in Jan 2012. I was pretty sure that the Pivot would be here before the Knolly, but at this rate, who knows?
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    According to the Pivot fb page, 5.7 Carbons won't be delivered until Jan 2012.

    This is getting ridiculous.
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    I sold my bike in September thinking I was getting a new bike in October. Now I have nothing to ride until January which is probably tentative at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEUT View Post
    I sold my bike in September thinking I was getting a new bike in October. Now I have nothing to ride until January which is probably tentative at best.
    I also sold my Epiphany after placing my order for the 5.7 Carbon in early Sep. Now, I have to decide if I want to wait or not.

    Luckily, I still have a few bikes in the stable to ride to get me by.
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    If there are issues with the carbon frame, I wonder if it would be better to change to the alloy frame? Is the alloy frame available yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEUT View Post
    If there are issues with the carbon frame, I wonder if it would be better to change to the alloy frame? Is the alloy frame available yet?
    I believe the aluminum 5.7 are available (even discounted).

    Rush to get a product out before I-bike, create buzz, find out product is crap and have to re-do molds, and piss off many potential buyers. Great business model.
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    If you hang out on the Ibis forum, they seem to have similar issues. Ramping up carbon production seems a bit harder than aluminum.
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    If Pivot is re-doing the K-Mart graphics with something more sensible, I'm willing to wait for the carbon. I'd rather Chris and the smart guys over there got it right than put out something with instant negatives. My Firebird can get me thru the winter... So will dreamin' of hitting the TRT and Colorado Trail next July on a 23-lb 5.7 (XO, carbon havens)!!

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    I think they should make the graphics as loud/ugly as they can possibly image legally doing, force some of you morons to get your priorities in order.

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    Delivery of Carbon Frames

    Pivot answered a couple of hours ago the question about the delivery dates of the carbon frames on Facebook "We will have our first delivery of frames in January, then a second delivery by the end of the month, with a 3rd delivery to follow suite in early February."

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    I'll be getting a carbon 5.7 and am looking forward to it!

    Fortunately it's ski season so I don't mind the wait.

    I don't mind the graphics, anyone in Vancouver can check out a carbon 5.7 frame hanging at Obsession bikes in north van right now!
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    What is an annoying pendant?

    Someone gave me a negative on this thread and said "quit being an annoying pendant" but I don't know what that means. Can someone explain this to me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    Someone gave me a negative on this thread and said "quit being an annoying pendant" but I don't know what that means. Can someone explain this to me?
    Looks like someone needs to check their dictionary before leaving negative feedback. I'm guessing they meant "pedant," unless they really did think you were being an annoying necklace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marshall Willanholly View Post
    Looks like someone needs to check their dictionary before leaving negative feedback. I'm guessing they meant "pedant," unless they really did think you were being an annoying necklace.
    NOW who's being pedantic? At least I'm just a necklace - maybe like when Frodo is wearing the ring like a necklace and it's real heavy. That would be annoying.
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    me it's all plastic with fiber thingies in it...
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    I ordered Mach 5.7 Carbon for me too, I can't wait to ride it

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    Me too, Pawel, but I can bet you surely will have one earlier
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    Me too, Pawel, but I can bet you surely will have one earlier
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    Guys, I can't find in Shitmano order form correct brake adapter for Mach 5.7 Carbon, can you please help me? Brake is XTR IS mount, rotor is 185mm, I need PM adapter. Thanks.

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    For 160 PM fork and 183 IS Hope rotor/caliper I used Hope HBSM20H adapter, there is really no big choice of PM-to-IS adapters on the market. In case you'll need to add one mm or so, a couple of shims between frame and adapter do the job I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yangpei View Post
    According to the Pivot fb page, 5.7 Carbons won't be delivered until Jan 2012.

    This is getting ridiculous.
    These are 2012 model frames, what gives?

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    For those that have ordered carbon frames, have you been told what round of shipments you will get?

    Wondering if there is much of a back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimba View Post
    For those that have ordered carbon frames, have you been told what round of shipments you will get?

    Wondering if there is much of a back up.
    I was looking to get a Carbon 5.7 in large and was told no to inspect it until March. I've opted for a 2012 aluminum frame instead - due in 3 weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimba View Post
    For those that have ordered carbon frames, have you been told what round of shipments you will get?

    Wondering if there is much of a back up.
    I ordered my 5.7 carbon in August and was told I should be in the first batch. However, after corresponding with the Pivot sales manager, I found out that there were only a handful of pink frames ordered in medium (and none were expected in the first batch). So, I changed my order to a blue med frame in order to get my frame in the first shipment.
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    Does anyone have a picture of a 5.7 carbon frame or bike in size large?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrwhlr View Post
    I think they should make the graphics as loud/ugly as they can possibly image legally doing, force some of you morons to get your priorities in order.
    Omg no doubt. Didn't realize how superficial people can be about a bike.

    Oh well means less of a wait for me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brodiegrrl View Post
    Omg no doubt. Didn't realize how superficial people can be about a bike.

    Oh well means less of a wait for me!
    When you go to a Ferrari dealer, you get a choice of color, any color you want, even if it is not in their brochure, they will find it and paint it to your desire, which is part of paying a premium price for a high performance vehicle. I think the Pivot falls into the High price Performance vehicle category. Mind you I do not think they should just paint it whatever the customer wants, but the customer should have some better choices to think about then what Pivot is currently offering. Please rethink your thinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brodiegrrl View Post
    Omg no doubt. Didn't realize how superficial people can be about a bike.

    LOL, really? I thought that was the point of this site...
    But seriously I can't spend 3Gs on something that's ugly to me... is that superficial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Senor StrongBad View Post
    When you go to a Ferrari dealer, you get a choice of color, any color you want, even if it is not in their brochure, they will find it and paint it to your desire, which is part of paying a premium price for a high performance vehicle. I think the Pivot falls into the High price Performance vehicle category. Mind you I do not think they should just paint it whatever the customer wants, but the customer should have some better choices to think about then what Pivot is currently offering. Please rethink your thinking.
    What companies offer custom colour carbon bikes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alex(K) View Post
    LOL, really? I thought that was the point of this site...
    But seriously I can't spend 3Gs on something that's ugly to me... is that superficial?
    What does colour have to do with performance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brodiegrrl View Post
    What does colour have to do with performance?
    Nothing, I still prefer riding a pretty bike over an ugly one...

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    Just found out my Small red will be March. but I just ordered so I'm sure I'm down the list a ways.

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    Guess I'm one of the rare few who likes the new graphic treatment of the 5.7 Carbon. I was kinda delaying ordering my Mach 4 hoping that the graphics might get a makeover for 2012, but I don't think its going to happen.

    Still waiting for the first 5.7 Carbon pics to show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sablotny View Post
    Guess I'm one of the rare few who likes the new graphic treatment of the 5.7 Carbon. I was kinda delaying ordering my Mach 4 hoping that the graphics might get a makeover for 2012, but I don't think its going to happen.

    Still waiting for the first 5.7 Carbon pics to show.
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    here is the Large that Sports Garage has.
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    I like the looks of the bike! Was not so sure from the Pivot Website photos. My wife has an XS in pink on order. I doubt she will see her bike anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gryeti View Post
    I like the looks of the bike! Was not so sure from the Pivot Website photos. My wife has an XS in pink on order. I doubt she will see her bike anytime soon.
    As long as you are not in a hurry. After speaking with Chris C my wife changed her order to an alloy. There is no timeline for an XS Carbon 5.7

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    Quote Originally Posted by OZX View Post
    As long as you are not in a hurry. After speaking with Chris C my wife changed her order to an alloy. There is no timeline for an XS Carbon 5.7
    We were told late March or April a couple of weeks ago. I could not stand the wait if it was me so more power to her!

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