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    I just bought mucky nuts fenders too. Totally disappointed - I haven't had that much mud fling up on me for a long time - you? (I run full fenders all winter normally but believed the hype
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    I just bought mucky nuts fenders too. Totally disappointed - I haven't had that much mud fling up on me for a long time - you? (I run full fenders all winter normally but believed the hype
    My experience has been good thus far. A buddy has one on his Mojo HD, so I was able to try it out before hand. Got it instead of a mud flap to keep the mud off my face and stanchions, and it's been great in doing that and that only. Rest of me and the bike get splattered, but I was expecting that based on my buddy's experience. Better than a mud flap because the stanchions get coverage as well (and no rub) but not nearly as good as full fenders.

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    Nice builds, Isildur & JMW503! Noticed you've both got Reverbs, what length and drop length did you choose?

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    Cheers! The Reverb I used was the 380mm version w/ 5" drop. I'm on a medium frame, and I have a 30"/31" inseam (pant length, not actual leg length). My seat height at maximum pedaling position is 74.0cm from the center of the BB to the top of the seat (running 175mm cranks).

    As you can see, I still have a couple of inches of exposed post so if your legs are a couple of inches shorter you should be able to get away with it! There's also quite a bit of post left in the seat tube until the "min insertion line" is visible, so if your legs are a bit longer you should be OK too!

    I hope that helps!

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    Mach 5.7 in RED

    .. close to the end of the build, just need to put KS i950R dropper seatpost and do remote lever cable routing. For those, who are eager after the actual weights:

    - Large frame incl. all bolts, w/o shock, seatpost clamp and rear axle - 2 351g (5.18lbs.);
    - Large frame incl. shock w/ ss pivots (custom made, see the picture), rear axle - 2 726g (6.01lbs.);
    - bike build w/ carbon Pace RC41 Fighter 150mm fork (1592g), Thomson 410mm seatpost (heavy at 269.2g, but on hand) - 10 783g (23.77lbs.);
    - bike build w/ Fox 32 Talas RLC 140mm (1865g), Thomson 410mm seatpost - 11 056g (24.37lbs.);
    - bike build w/ carbon Pace RC41 Fighter 150mm fork, KS i950 dropper seatpost 385mm (preliminary 579.2g incl. remote) - ca. 11 102g (24.48lbs.);
    - bike build w/ Fox 32 Talas RLC 140mm, KS i950 dropper seatpost 385mm - ca. 11 375g (25.08lbs.).

    Notes:
    - Front 2.4" Schwalbe NN is very light (early production, thin sidewalls), rear is standard 2.25" NN Snake Skin, both wheels with NT yellow tape + 2 cups of NT sealant each;
    - Stated weight of KS i950 is with remote cable length from my Mojo and should be checked after mounting.
    - The weights above are without rear fender, frame protective decals and computer.
    - I'll put Pace Fighter fork later after servicing it, for the starting point Fox Talas is used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by agg25 View Post
    Nice builds, Isildur & JMW503! Noticed you've both got Reverbs, what length and drop length did you choose?
    Hey agg25 - Mine is a 355 mm (4") Reverb. My seat position is 69.5 cm from crank center to saddle which on a medium frame (18.5" seat post length) left me an .8 inch gap between Reverb nut bottom and seat post top. This is about .35 inches to short to fit a 380 mm (5" reverb) in my case. If you have the clearance go for a 5" Reverb or KS Lev (once available). The 4" works for me, but an inch lower would be preferred as I do a lot of rear wheel-touching-ass rock faces and drops.

    Is your bike ready yet?

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    Just got my New Mach 5.7 !

    27.7LBS North Shore Build. Once Spring gets to North Van I'll take it for a ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMW503 View Post
    Hey agg25 - Mine is a 355 mm (4") Reverb. My seat position is 69.5 cm from crank center to saddle which on a medium frame (18.5" seat post length) left me an .8 inch gap between Reverb nut bottom and seat post top. This is about .35 inches to short to fit a 380 mm (5" reverb) in my case. If you have the clearance go for a 5" Reverb or KS Lev (once available). The 4" works for me, but an inch lower would be preferred as I do a lot of rear wheel-touching-ass rock faces and drops.

    Is your bike ready yet?
    Thanks mate, i went for the 380/5" ;-)
    Still waiting on the frame, all the other parts have been ordered so just sitting back and waiting now, cmon!!

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    Mach 5.7 in red custom edition

    Trail build ... (I forgot to upload image to my recent post Mach 5.7 CARBON, so edited it today).
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    can you share the parts list?
    have you ridden her?

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    parts are from my old Titus/edge Icarus racerx100 from 2001! which had all new parts...

    Fox 150 TALAS kashima
    Stans Crest rims
    Chris King Hubs ( 10 yrs old! )
    Maxxis Minion DHF 2.35 ( shore worthy)
    Juicy Brakes ( may get new ones, we'll see)
    2010 XT 3X10 drive train
    Shimano XTR Trail pedals
    Reverb Seat post
    Cromag Lynx Saddle
    some old Syncros carbon handle bar...

    Still haven't ridden it yet... its pretty wet here and skiing is still good. Tomorrow I will ride though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brodiegrrl View Post
    parts are from my old Titus/edge Icarus racerx100 from 2001! which had all new parts...

    Fox 150 TALAS kashima
    Stans Crest rims
    Chris King Hubs ( 10 yrs old! )
    Maxxis Minion DHF 2.35 ( shore worthy)
    Juicy Brakes ( may get new ones, we'll see)
    2010 XT 3X10 drive train
    Shimano XTR Trail pedals
    Reverb Seat post
    Cromag Lynx Saddle
    some old Syncros carbon handle bar...

    Still haven't ridden it yet... its pretty wet here and skiing is still good. Tomorrow I will ride though!
    You are NW wash and bc, no? Today was absolutely amazing for speed vs traction. Only frozen mud is better ....
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    You are NW wash and bc, no? Today was absolutely amazing for speed vs traction. Only frozen mud is better ....
    North Van. Trails are starting to dry out! Ski season has been amazing too though!

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    Quote Originally Posted by axlissel View Post
    can you share the parts list?
    have you ridden her?
    Not too much, 25 km only.
    Parts list:
    - 2007 Fox 32 Talas RLC 140 mm (alt. Pace RC 41 Fighter 150mm);
    - Hope ZS headset adapted for Cane Creek Solos tall spacer;
    - New Ultimate 90mm stem;
    - Enve riser bar 700mm;
    - Ergon GX1 grips;
    - 2012 Formula R1 frakes, Formula 2-pieces 180/180mm rotors.
    - Sram X.9 grip shifers adaped for old ESP 9.0 replaceable red grips;
    - Jagwire Ripcord L3 red cables;
    - XT front derrailleur for 3x9, Sram X.0 9 sp. medium cage rear;
    - KS i950R 31.9/380 dropper seatpost w/ remote CC Joplin;
    - Hope seatpost clamp bolt-on;
    - Fizik Gobi saddle (alt. Spec. Phenom SL);
    - THM Carbones Clavicula cranks w/ TA Specialites Chinok chainrings, 22/32/44, THM PressFit BB;
    - Look Carbon Ti pedals;
    - DT Swiss 240s disc hubs, NT Crest rims 32H, Sapim CX-ray spokes, NT yellow tape;
    - cassette Shimano XTR 11-34T;
    - Schwalbe Nobby Nic 2.4" front, 2.25" rear, NT sealant;
    - Front DT Swiss RWS 9mm thru axle skewer;
    - Shimano Dura-Ace CN-7701 chain, 53 links (Sram PC-991 II CrossStep);
    - DIY Frameskin protection, DIY rear half-fender.

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    i've tested my bike on tarmac, gravel and some small climbs.
    it looks that it barely bob (almost no pedal bob with PP disabled (open) )
    Pivot Mach 5.7 carbon - pedal bob test (GoPro HD) - YouTube
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    Oh, there is surely some amount of bob, even with ProPedal set to level 2, especially if the shock is set to the recommended ca. 30% sag. My bobs significantly more than mate's SC Blur LT, but it's also more sensitive to small bumps than SC.

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    i have comparison to Specialized Pitch and Scott Genius only.
    Genius didn't bob to much, but it was marathon frame and less sensitive.
    Pitch had a lot of pedal bob, i was unable to go faster than ~33km/h (only after setting rebound to max. i was able to reach top speed (~45km/h)

    i've tested today Mach with PP on tarmac and on PP=3 i can feel that there's less pedal bob (i can feel 'stiffer' frame), on PP=1 there was not too much difference (comparing to PP=0)

    and i see more chips (damages) done by my rear derailleur that hits chainstay (i have to put some tape there).
    Also, my chain dropped once from front small chainring and damaged the frame near BB :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorjack View Post
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    Also, my chain dropped once from front small chainring and damaged the frame near BB :/
    The same happend me too and the chain damaged rubber protective layer near the BB, so I wound 4 or 5 zip ties around the bottom end of downtube closely above the BB to protect the frame better.

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    rubber 'carbon' is damaged just a little, is there any way to protect this area?
    i'm thinking about putting there an extra layer of fiberglass + epoxy resin (+ black paint)

    I'll add bionicon c-guide later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorjack View Post
    ... is there any way to protect this area?
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    Surely, zip-ties mentioned above

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorjack View Post
    rubber 'carbon' is damaged just a little, is there any way to protect this area?
    i'm thinking about putting there an extra layer of fiberglass + epoxy resin (+ black paint)

    I'll add bionicon c-guide later.
    Chain guide and/or Shadow+. I have a Shadow+ on my 5.7c (2x10) and have yet to drop a chain. I ride AM over lots of steep rocks and drops, with very fast technical decents. Chain is scary quiet. My view is I spent $2500+ on a frame, so a little extra on a Shadow+ to ensure my chain wasn't going to be damaging the bike made sense to me. But, if not a Shimano fan, then get the Bionicon. Better to prevent the chain from hitting your frame in the first place.

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    Yeah fiberglass seems a bit silly, you could always whack another chainguard over it as well like one of the guys did on this forum as well.

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    is there compatible chainguard?
    i thought that chainguards requires ISG (or other mounting tabs/systems)

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    Sorry, I meant chainstay protector, this guy has a good one -
    My Mach 5.7 of Carbonium Goodness

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorjack View Post
    is there compatible chainguard?
    i thought that chainguards requires ISG (or other mounting tabs/systems)
    You are correct. Guides like MRP that have BB install options won't work with press fit. Hence, the bionicon if you don't want to go the XTR Shadow+ route. You can get a ring guard if you are concerned about the chain dropping off the big ring. I use a Blackspire super lite god. E13's is pretty awesome as well.

    Like I said above, I've had zero chain drops with the XTR Shadow+. Saving the frame and not losing a my chain during a race was worth the $200 US for the derailleur. Will be offered with XT, SLX, and Saint this Summer, along with SRAM's variation, so it will get cheaper.

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    i will change drivetrain in the future, now i have xtr 970, so changing to shadow+ is costly -(derailleur, shifter, cassette (760 cranks can wait)
    and i want to change in the first place brakes (now 970 IS) to PM

    can you give links to compatible ring guards? (preventing dropping chain from BB side)

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    Quote Originally Posted by razorjack View Post
    i will change drivetrain in the future, now i have xtr 970, so changing to shadow+ is costly -(derailleur, shifter, cassette (760 cranks can wait)
    and i want to change in the first place brakes (now 970 IS) to PM

    can you give links to compatible ring guards? (preventing dropping chain from BB side)
    The ring guards, in addition to protecting your rings, help to keep the chain from dropping on the crank side. Here's some light options:


    Blackspire Super Lite God
    Blackspire - LiteSuperGod | Blackspire

    E13
    e*thirteen components

    MRP
    Mountain Racing Products home of MRP, White Brothers, Kreitler, Tamer, and Power Grips | S4 Bash Guard

    Gamut
    Bash Guards

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    Been gradually switching out the blue bits.

    Quote Originally Posted by yangpei View Post
    I finally got my Mach 5.7 Carbon. I still have to dial in the fork / shock and shorten the cables. It weighed in at 26 lbs with beefy tires. Looking forwards to the first ride soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redley78 View Post
    Here is my custom XT/XTR Build...
    Size: Medium
    Fork: Fox 36 Talas FIT
    Wheelset: Flows with X9 Hubs
    Brakes XT Icetech 180mm F/R
    Shifters: XT
    Bars: Sunline 711mm
    Stem: RaceFace 65mm
    Seatpost: Speci Blacklite
    Cranks: XT
    RDer: XTR Shadow plus
    Nice bike, nice wrx!

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    New Custom Pivot

    Here is my custom XT/XTR Build...
    Size: Medium
    Fork: Fox 36 Talas FIT
    Wheelset: Flows with X9 Hubs
    Brakes XT Icetech 180mm F/R
    Shifters: XT
    Bars: Sunline 711mm
    Stem: RaceFace 65mm
    Seatpost: Speci Blacklite
    Cranks: XT
    RDer: XTR Shadow plus
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    Quote Originally Posted by litany View Post
    Nice bike, nice wrx!
    Haha, good eye lad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redley78 View Post
    Haha, good eye lad!
    That the STI or just the newer regular WRX? My wife has a silver with the non bulgy body and wants a white with the new STI bulges on it.
    "It looks flexy"

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    Here is my version of the Mach 5.7 carbon the weight came in at 24.3 lbs
    size medium
    Fork Fox 150 talas fit
    Wheels Easton carbon
    Tires Schwalbe rocket rons 2.4 front 2.25 rear with stans sealant
    Brakes Formula the one light and tons of power
    Shifters xtr
    Cranks xtr
    deraillers xtr rear is shadow plus
    Bars Easton ec70
    Stem Easton ec90
    Seatpost Easton ec90
    Seat WTB silverado team
    This bike is awesome ,Its already muddy I love it. I also want to say that the guys at pivot are some of the best people I have ever dealt with. I have nothing but good things to say about them..........Now lets go riding!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    That the STI or just the newer regular WRX? My wife has a silver with the non bulgy body and wants a white with the new STI bulges on it.
    It is the 2012 WRX, but it has plenty of bulge popping out of the hood, front and rear fenders! Im not sure what bulges you are talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradittude View Post
    Here is my version of the Mach 5.7 carbon the weight came in at 24.3 lbs
    size medium
    Fork Fox 150 talas fit
    Wheels Easton carbon
    Tires Schwalbe rocket rons 2.4 front 2.25 rear with stans sealant
    Brakes Formula the one light and tons of power
    Shifters xtr
    Cranks xtr
    deraillers xtr rear is shadow plus
    Bars Easton ec70
    Stem Easton ec90
    Seatpost Easton ec90
    Seat WTB silverado team
    This bike is awesome ,Its already muddy I love it. I also want to say that the guys at pivot are some of the best people I have ever dealt with. I have nothing but good things to say about them..........Now lets go riding!!
    I really like your green pivot. I was debating between green and red.
    Im very jealous that you got your bike down to 24.3 lbs. Mine is right at 30.0 lbs. Its a bit disappointing as i was hoping for a 28 pounder, but i built it up to do everything. i know there are ways to reduce weight, but im just not willing to sacrifice the things ive grown to love and oh ya, money was an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redley78 View Post
    It is the 2012 WRX, but it has plenty of bulge popping out of the hood, front and rear fenders! Im not sure what bulges you are talking about?
    I have a white 2011. Starting in 2011 the body is the same as the STI, before that it had the body of the regular imprezza. The 2011 wrx also got a wider wheels and tires and wheelbase I think to match the Sti which improved the handling apparently. They made the wrx really good, I couldn't justify the extra $8k for an Sti since I don't plan on power mods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradittude View Post
    Here is my version of the Mach 5.7 carbon the weight came in at 24.3 lbs
    size medium
    Fork Fox 150 talas fit
    Wheels Easton carbon
    Tires Schwalbe rocket rons 2.4 front 2.25 rear with stans sealant
    Brakes Formula the one light and tons of power
    Shifters xtr
    Cranks xtr
    deraillers xtr rear is shadow plus
    Bars Easton ec70
    Stem Easton ec90
    Seatpost Easton ec90
    Seat WTB silverado team
    This bike is awesome ,Its already muddy I love it. I also want to say that the guys at pivot are some of the best people I have ever dealt with. I have nothing but good things to say about them..........Now lets go riding!!
    Awesome Green looks great.....if only pivot made green linkage bolts, headset/spacers, seatpost clamp like your KCNC seatpost clamp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by litany View Post
    I have a white 2011. Starting in 2011 the body is the same as the STI, before that it had the body of the regular imprezza. The 2011 wrx also got a wider wheels and tires and wheelbase I think to match the Sti which improved the handling apparently. They made the wrx really good, I couldn't justify the extra $8k for an Sti since I don't plan on power mods.
    Yep, this. We might get a 2012 but $$$
    "It looks flexy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradittude View Post
    Here is my version of the Mach 5.7 carbon the weight came in at 24.3 lbs
    size medium
    Fork Fox 150 talas fit
    Wheels Easton carbon
    Tires Schwalbe rocket rons 2.4 front 2.25 rear with stans sealant
    Brakes Formula the one light and tons of power
    Shifters xtr
    Cranks xtr
    deraillers xtr rear is shadow plus
    Bars Easton ec70
    Stem Easton ec90
    Seatpost Easton ec90
    Seat WTB silverado team
    This bike is awesome ,Its already muddy I love it. I also want to say that the guys at pivot are some of the best people I have ever dealt with. I have nothing but good things to say about them..........Now lets go riding!!
    I love the bike Brad
    I was considering the 'Ones' as brakes for mine but baulked at the last minute thinking they may be a touch too powerful for such a lightweight bike. Can you elaborate a little on your choice.

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    Hey Bug, I was fortunate to have both The Ones and a set of XTR trails to choose between, both brakes are very powerful with great modulation, the formulas are harder to set up to get them to not rub but once you get them set up they work great. The XTRs are easier to get parts for in most bike shops and dont have the rubbing issue, I was trying to see how light I could get my mach 5.7 carbon with parts that I had on hand so that ended up being the deciding factor. If I was going out and buying them I would buy the XTRs but thats just my opinion they are both great brakes with great feel. Now that I have built this frame up to this weight I am going to start buying some parts to get it in the 23 lb. range. I know the bike is already nice and light, its just something I want to try to see if I can get it there. I think I might start with a rock shox revelation world cup carbon fork...... that should get me close. What do you think??

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    I say go for it! I've got a Rev WC, and I absolutely love it! Light, plush, responsive, and easy to setup. Plus, it will be easy to service down the line

    Mine build came in at 11.80 kg, which is 25.96 lbs. Heck, might as well plug it again too

    My Mach 5.7 of Carbonium Goodness

    There are a few areas where I could drop some weight if I was really keen and doing the weight weenie thing, but I'm so happy with my current build, which suits my riding style to a tee, it wouldn't be worth it in my eyes

    But.... IF I was going to chase weight alone, the parts I'd remove would be:

    - Loaded Grips -> To something Foam...
    - Fizik Gobi XM -> To a Spyder saddle I saw around, basically a web of plastic!
    - Reverb - Change it back to my Thomson Masterpiece (Over a pound dropping there!)
    - Avid XX - Change to Ones
    - Hope Rotors - Change to 160/140 Alligators (or similar light weight ones).
    - Chainstay - Remove completely
    - XTR Pedals - Go to Eggbeaters or something just as ridiculous!
    - Comp Spokes - To Revos
    - Tyres - Something in a 2.1 lightweight deal...
    - Sealant - Who needs that?

    A 23lb range it completely doable, it just depends on who much you want to spend, and how much you want to limit the bike to XC only Hell, just for fun, I'll do the tyre & seatpost thing this week and see what it comes to

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradittude View Post
    Hey Bug, I was fortunate to have both The Ones and a set of XTR trails to choose between, both brakes are very powerful with great modulation, the formulas are harder to set up to get them to not rub but once you get them set up they work great. The XTRs are easier to get parts for in most bike shops and dont have the rubbing issue, I was trying to see how light I could get my mach 5.7 carbon with parts that I had on hand so that ended up being the deciding factor. If I was going out and buying them I would buy the XTRs but thats just my opinion they are both great brakes with great feel. Now that I have built this frame up to this weight I am going to start buying some parts to get it in the 23 lb. range. I know the bike is already nice and light, its just something I want to try to see if I can get it there. I think I might start with a rock shox revelation world cup carbon fork...... that should get me close. What do you think??
    I have XT Trails (XT/XTR build kit) at the moment but have only one short ride on them. Coming from 8 years of running formula oro brakes with a little time on a set of RX, the Shimano levers felt too small and just not right.
    Was considering RX straight up but seeing as the one is actually lighter I was keen to try them.
    As far as maintenance and setup is concerned I'm used to all that with the oros. Think I may need some more time on the XT's to make my mind up though.
    Thanks

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    So, just for fun, and using pure calculation only (although, these are weights that I've measured myself unless otherwise noted):

    Starting weight - 11.80kg, 25.96lbs

    - Change Reverb (533g) to Thomson Masterpiece (183g uncut): -350g
    - Change Comp Spokes to Revo Spokes (DT Online weights): -100g
    - Change GobiXM (251g) to Tioga Spyder (143g): -108g
    - Change Advantage 2.25 Folding (734g), Larsen 2.35 Wire (735g Claimed) to NobbyNic 2.1 Evo (475g Claimed), RacingRalph 2.1 Evo (455g claimed): -539g
    - Remove Csixx protector: -94g
    - Change Loaded Grips (118g claimed) to Ritchey Foam (34g claimed): -84g

    So, with most of those being rather cheap changes to do (especially if you're comfortable building your own wheels), you could take my bike down to a final weight (estimated) of:

    10.53kg or 23.16lbs! - a 23lb 5.7c is definitely possible

    Not that I would change any of those, as I love everything I've put on this bike! I may change the grips over time, and play around with tyres, but the build will always be usable for me! If I was racing it over long distances, I'd definitely do the seatpost & tyres, but as this bike is primarily about fun, and any races I do are pretty short, it will stay the way it is

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    These are nice looking builds. I am leaning toward getting one of these frames over an Intense Carbine and an Ibis Mojo SLR and building it up in a few months. I've heard nothing but good things about them and for what I want to do (great uphill, confident downhill) it seems to fit the bid. Does anyone have any opinions about the bike's performance?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbnozpikr View Post
    These are nice looking builds. I am leaning toward getting one of these frames over an Intense Carbine and an Ibis Mojo SLR and building it up in a few months. I've heard nothing but good things about them and for what I want to do (great uphill, confident downhill) it seems to fit the bid. Does anyone have any opinions about the bike's performance?
    It's just freaking awesome. Seriously it can be a trail bike and can also be an AM bike (my usage). I considered the Carbine as well and went Mach 5.7c based on geo and DW-Link over the Intense variation of VPP. The SLR is a good bike, but the Geo is more trail and it is WAY less stiff than the 5.7c.

    The 5.7c climbs extremely well and rails on the downhills. It can handle fast, small bumpy stuff and well as big knarly stuff, rock drops, rock faces, etc. It's balanced when you lean into turns and very flickable. Front end can get a loose on climbs due to the wheel base, but that occurs very infrequently and only when my Talas is set at 150mm. When dropped to 120mm the front end sticks.

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    Great input! What made you not go vpp vs the 5.7c dw for your trails and riding style?


    Quote Originally Posted by JMW503 View Post
    It's just freaking awesome. Seriously it can be a trail bike and can also be an AM bike (my usage). I considered the Carbine as well and went Mach 5.7c based on geo and DW-Link over the Intense variation of VPP. The SLR is a good bike, but the Geo is more trail and it is WAY less stiff than the 5.7c.

    The 5.7c climbs extremely well and rails on the downhills. It can handle fast, small bumpy stuff and well as big knarly stuff, rock drops, rock faces, etc. It's balanced when you lean into turns and very flickable. Front end can get a loose on climbs due to the wheel base, but that occurs very infrequently and only when my Talas is set at 150mm. When dropped to 120mm the front end sticks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JMW503 View Post
    It's just freaking awesome. Seriously it can be a trail bike and can also be an AM bike (my usage). I considered the Carbine as well and went Mach 5.7c based on geo and DW-Link over the Intense variation of VPP. The SLR is a good bike, but the Geo is more trail and it is WAY less stiff than the 5.7c.

    The 5.7c climbs extremely well and rails on the downhills. It can handle fast, small bumpy stuff and well as big knarly stuff, rock drops, rock faces, etc. It's balanced when you lean into turns and very flickable. Front end can get a loose on climbs due to the wheel base, but that occurs very infrequently and only when my Talas is set at 150mm. When dropped to 120mm the front end sticks.
    Sweet, thanks for the input. I went to a shop on Friday and was quite impressed with what the guy there showed me regarding the Mach 5.7 Carbon. All three of the bikes are around the same price point and I'm not partial to any brand. My philosophy is to choose the best for the money and right now I'm leaning toward Pivot.
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    Check out the review in this months mountain bike action, I think you will be convinced to go for the pivot after reading it. Oh by the way my mach 5.7 carbon is amazing, the dw link hooks up in even the most loose sketchy climbs i do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradittude View Post
    Check out the review in this months mountain bike action, I think you will be convinced to go for the pivot after reading it. Oh by the way my mach 5.7 carbon is amazing, the dw link hooks up in even the most loose sketchy climbs i do
    Awesome review, thanks for the heads up.
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