Mach 5.7 CARBON

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  • 08-02-2012
    razorjack
    new Syntace 30 stem (30.2), red RF Atlas handlebar, Fox34 120-160
  • 08-03-2012
    fakemind
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by razorjack View Post
    new Syntace 30 stem (30.2), red RF Atlas handlebar, Fox34 120-160

    Nice setup razorjack, I'm interested in how it rides with the 34. Not sure if you had a 32 150 on there before but if you did do you notice much more stifness with the 34, or can you just comment on the stifness of the 34 in general? Also, if you are running it at 160 and haven't had it reduced to 150, how do you find the increased slackness effects the handling? Do you use the 120 setting much too?
  • 08-03-2012
    razorjack
    i had fox32 talas 100-140mm earlier, maybe it's a little stiffer, but i don't feel the difference, i'm not so experienced rider :)
    fox34 160 is ~16-17mm higher than fox32 150mm
    i use 120mm when climbing and during city riding.
    climbing on 160mm setting is much harder (steep climbs) witch such short stem
  • 08-04-2012
    fakemind
    Thanks for the reply, What length stem areyou running?
  • 08-06-2012
    chongy
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    Switched from the alum to carbon M5.7. The difference was astounding!! :thumbsup: Maiden ride left a huge smile on my face!!! :D
  • 08-06-2012
    PeterG
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by fakemind View Post
    Thanks for the reply, What length stem areyou running?

    From the description it looks like 30mm long (better say short ;)) Syntace Megaforce 2 stem
  • 08-06-2012
    kenbentit
    Chongy; Did you get your rims custom painted? Looks super sharp :thumbsup:
  • 08-06-2012
    Bronco0
    Those look like a project 321's , Anodized? Nice!
  • 08-06-2012
    gticlay
    Wow Chongy, fan-frickin'-tastic build. Stout yet light. Same wheels I'm running on my bikes 'cept you have those ti spokes. Ti bolts everywhere, etc. I think the only thing I'd change is the stem (Thomson 50mm) and removing those excess chainrings :)

    edit to add: With all that work you put into the bike, I'm a little surprised you didn't use the ispec mounts. I desperately want the new Saint levers and ispec shifter mount for my bike.
  • 08-07-2012
    chongy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    Chongy; Did you get your rims custom painted? Looks super sharp :thumbsup:

    Thanks, depending on where you're located, you can order anodized ZTRs directly from project321. I've gotten mine from a local bike shop and they had their own source to anodize those rims. :)
  • 08-07-2012
    PeterG
    It looks like you also cover original white Pivot logos on the frame with blue film ones like me :) (except of R-registered sign ;))...
  • 08-07-2012
    merlin01
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chongy View Post
    Switched from the alum to carbon M5.7. The difference was astounding!! :thumbsup: Maiden ride left a huge smile on my face!!! :D

    Chongy, can you provide more of a description of the astounding differences? I have a 2011 M5.7 alu and have been wondering if it's worth upgrading to the carbon version. The geometry charts Pivot has listed on their site are identical for both versions.
  • 08-07-2012
    chongy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gticlay View Post
    Wow Chongy, fan-frickin'-tastic build. Stout yet light. Same wheels I'm running on my bikes 'cept you have those ti spokes. Ti bolts everywhere, etc. I think the only thing I'd change is the stem (Thomson 50mm) and removing those excess chainrings :)

    edit to add: With all that work you put into the bike, I'm a little surprised you didn't use the ispec mounts. I desperately want the new Saint levers and ispec shifter mount for my bike.

    I was not sure if the i-spec mounts are compatible with the new saint brakes so that's why I did not decide to go ahead with it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PeterG View Post
    It looks like you also cover original white Pivot logos on the frame with blue film ones like me :) (except of R-registered sign ;))...

    I even have a layer of protective film on top of the blue decals to protect them.:D IMO, pivot should have just make all the logos the same color instead of white and the frame will sure look more wicked!!;)
  • 08-07-2012
    chongy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by merlin01 View Post
    Chongy, can you provide more of a description of the astounding differences? I have a 2011 M5.7 alu and have been wondering if it's worth upgrading to the carbon version. The geometry charts Pivot has listed on their site are identical for both versions.

    The astounding differences that i was implying was meant to be the whole bike as a package, not just the carbon frame alone. There were several components which i had updated during the swap, eg: new saint brakes, new wheelset, nicely serviced and tuned fork etc. All these contributed to the improved feel of the bike.

    If I am to comment on the frame alone, it's definitely more stiff and rigid, something that can be felt from the first stroke of pedalling. And with the reduced weight, riding the same trails requires less effort for me but i guess you really have to try it yourself as these are only my personal opinions and it may not be true for others. Another thing that i noted was the increased bb height as compared to the 2011 M5.7 alum. Riding the same trails, there were significant reduction in pedal strikes, which is definitely a plus point. :thumbsup:
  • 08-07-2012
    PeterG
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chongy View Post
    I even have a layer of protective film on top of the blue decals to protect them.:D IMO, pivot should have just make all the logos the same color instead of white and the frame will sure look more wicked!!;)

    I used reflective red Avery tape guaranteed for 7 years outdoors I think (used also for traffic signs), so I don't care too much about it. Potentially exposed frame parts are covered by clear thick protective polyurethane film also used for cars (so called clear guard). Pivot should make also anodised hw that match the frame color, not just one-for- all (blue) and if so, it should be neutral (black or silver), IMHO.
  • 08-08-2012
    pilotmandan
    Is there a source for those Pivot logo headset bearing caps? Besides the lunchbox kit.
  • 08-12-2012
    LeeL
  • 08-12-2012
    mtbnozpikr
    Great picture!:thumbsup:
  • 08-12-2012
    LeeL
  • 08-17-2012
    mtbnozpikr
    My frame came in two weeks ago and I got it today (been out of town). It looks great but I am slightly disappointed in the shock. I was assured it would be the '12 RP23 but it is actually the '13 CTD. Anybody have any feedback on the CTD?
  • 08-20-2012
    grandsalmon
    I ran into some of my spoked friends....




    I've been carefully adjusting the bike: bars, stem, tires, shock volume, etc....
  • 08-22-2012
    razorjack
    Mach5.7c on slippery rocks


  • 08-22-2012
    razorjack
    Mach5.7c on slippery rocks


  • 08-22-2012
    PeterG
    Fantastic pictures, Lukasz.
  • 08-22-2012
    gticlay
    Eeeewwww, looks like here 8 months of the year. Not looking forward to that again.
  • 08-23-2012
    mtbnozpikr
    Can anyone confirm that there is no spacer required when installing the bottom bracket?
  • 08-24-2012
    razorjack
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mtbnozpikr View Post
    Can anyone confirm that there is no spacer required when installing the bottom bracket?

    according to
    Pivot Cycles UK
    and this http://media.canyon.com/download/man...l_SM_BB_91.pdf
    it looks that you don't need spacer
  • 08-24-2012
    Isildur
    No Spacer required for the XTR BB that went into mine. Cups just press straight in!
  • 08-24-2012
    mtbnozpikr
    Thank you both, that's what I thought.
  • 09-03-2012
    Quadro
    This is my first carbon mountainbike and I'm a little surprised that the coating is so fragile.

    I got the frame from my lbs and it was there as a testbike. I'm told that is has little miles behind.

    Looks like the top matte layer isn't holding anything. I actually dropped a hex key at the top tupe and it chipped very little off the coating.

    Obviously there hasn't been any frame protection what so ever and now I have put protection tape all the sensitive areas.

    I know this is only cosmetic but like I said I'm surprised.

    Does anybody else who doesn't use extra protection lose their matte finish down under?


  • 09-03-2012
    razorjack
    yep. i've lost some of that matte too.
    i put some additional black electrical tape on chainstays.
    I have very rocky (loose rocks) condition here, everyone (all frames, alu, carbon, giants, pivots, etc.) use protectors (for downtube) made from old tires.
  • 09-06-2012
    Nelson34
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    My Pivot 5.7C now with Light Bicycle carbon rims. Bike was fast with 819's-can't wait to try with new wheels. Hopefully take it out this Sunday.
  • 09-09-2012
    the last biker
    Mach 5.7 c
    My Pivot Mach 5.7 c , this bike works great, just I canīt find any fault, excellent performance in all ground conditions, lightweight ( 24.25 lbs) for a bike with 5.7 inches of travel, finishes are the best in carbon fiber ,this bike just makes me smile.
  • 09-09-2012
    MTB Pilot
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    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quadro View Post
    This is my first carbon mountainbike and I'm a little surprised that the coating is so fragile.

    I got the frame from my lbs and it was there as a testbike. I'm told that is has little miles behind.

    Looks like the top matte layer isn't holding anything. I actually dropped a hex key at the top tupe and it chipped very little off the coating.

    Obviously there hasn't been any frame protection what so ever and now I have put protection tape all the sensitive areas.

    I know this is only cosmetic but like I said I'm surprised.

    Does anybody else who doesn't use extra protection lose their matte finish down under?

    This is the best stuff out there for frame protection! I use it on the BB of my Firebird and Session 88. Used it on my previous carbon Remedy. It hold's up to the rocks here in AZ so should work in most places. VERY sticky and shapes to every curve!! :thumbsup:

    Price Point - Search Results for lizard skins carbon leather

    Here it is on my previous Firebird frame along with Lizard Skins clear down tube protection.
  • 09-17-2012
    pilotmandan
    First Ride!!
    Love this thing!



    Frame: Med Blue
    Headset: King
    Stem: Stylo T40 70mm
    Bar: XC70
    Fork: Revelation WC
    Shift: XT
    Brake: XT
    F/R Der: XTR
    Cranks: XTR
    Chain: KMC X10SL
    Post: Thomson
    Saddle: WTB SST
    Cassette: SRAM PC-1070 11-36
    Wheels: Kings/ Competition/ Fire XC Pro/ Stan's Arch/ Tubless
    Grips: Oury Lock on
    Pedals: ATAC XS Carbon
    Weight: 25lb 11oz on LBS scale
  • 09-19-2012
    Blk02
    Anyone here ride a Large 5.7 frame that is 6'-2" with a 33" inseam & what size stem are you using?
    Also what size stem comes stock on the Large 5.7c.

    Thanks
  • 09-19-2012
    PeterG
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    Last build, ca. 11.1kg (24.5 lbs).
  • 09-21-2012
    egzah
    PeterG: nice upgrade, less red on components really suits her !
  • 10-09-2012
    Djg24
    I have been looking to build a new bike this winter. So far I have narrowed it down to the 5.7c and the Yeti SB-66c. My one stumbling block on this frame is the lack of ISCG tabs.

    I read a bunch of reviews and I have seen in more than 1 article that they said Pivot would have an ISCG adaptor coming down the road. Is this true? Is there one available? Did they scrap that idea?

    I really like this bike but the lack of ISCG tabs makes it the one box I can't check off on my list of frame requirements.
  • 10-09-2012
    litany
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Djg24 View Post
    I have been looking to build a new bike this winter. So far I have narrowed it down to the 5.7c and the Yeti SB-66c. My one stumbling block on this frame is the lack of ISCG tabs.

    I read a bunch of reviews and I have seen in more than 1 article that they said Pivot would have an ISCG adaptor coming down the road. Is this true? Is there one available? Did they scrap that idea?

    I really like this bike but the lack of ISCG tabs makes it the one box I can't check off on my list of frame requirements.

    I'd be surprised if isgc makes it anytime soon. They recently said it means replacing the molds etc which is expensive.
  • 10-09-2012
    JMW503
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by litany View Post
    I'd be surprised if isgc makes it anytime soon. They recently said it means replacing the molds etc which is expensive.

    He was referring to the adapter solution that was made available for the ALU 5.7. Last Fall there were statements around creating a solution for the 5.7C as well. "Twas basically a ISG ring around the BB the you bolted on. I haven't seen it offered for the ALU 5.7 since the Spring and I highly doubt a similar solution is in the works for the 5.7C at this stage.
  • 10-10-2012
    razorjack
    My friend from workshop is trying to make chainguide/roller for me.
    It'll be simple composite plate (3mm thick i think) mounted on BB tube
  • 10-13-2012
    mtbnozpikr
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    Not sure what it weighs (large frame) but I'm really happy about how it turned out. The purpose was to have a bike that would climb like a goat and still be confident in the descents. Just finished it so haven't ridden it yet but I'm itchin' to!
  • 10-15-2012
    Mr Pink
    5.7c on the rocks,Lakedistrict UK.
  • 10-28-2012
    mtbnozpikr
    I finally was able to ride mine yesterday and first impressions were amazing. I wanted a bike that could climb like a goat and still be a confident descender and I think that's exactly what I got. I didn't have much time to ride before I had to leave but I am very impressed with it.
  • 10-28-2012
    jmblur
    Just took my 5.7C XT/XTR Pro to my first ever day of lift-served riding at highland, and had a blast! It's not a DH bike for sure, but I was carrying enough speed that I was always in the top half of the big ring. Bike could definitely handle a lot more than I could (I stuck to the greens/blues). I did find I was dropping chains on some really rocky areas - even had it happen twice in 100 yards, once to the outside, once to the inside! Shame the frame doesnt' have ISCG mounts.

    Anybody figure out a way to add a 2x chainguide? Would be nice to toss on there for the DH days...

    Oh, and even the DH guys were drooling over the bike, which was cool. The Lifties kept lifting it up to check the weight after they pulled it off the chair - a bit lighter than the sleds they're used to!
  • 10-29-2012
    razorjack
    yep, i'm waiting for a mech-friend to create a chainguide for me.
    Mach is so versatile bike, indeed it's shame there is no ISCG
    at the end, my first long jumps :) Bartycka, testy self edit - YouTube
  • 11-27-2012
    DTP
    quick question:

    how much fork travel would you recommend on a pivot 5.7C
  • 11-27-2012
    mtbnozpikr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DTP View Post
    quick question:

    how much fork travel would you recommend on a pivot 5.7C

    Maximum recommended by Pivot is 150mm and the minimum is 140mm. I'm rolling a Fox Float 150 and really like the fork and the way it makes the rest of the bike feel.
  • 11-27-2012
    razorjack
    Pivot recommends 150mm,
    however if you prefer more downhill ride you can put 160mm (Fox34 160 will be ~13-14mm higher)
    fox36 160 or Lyrik 160 will be ~20mm higher.
    It still rides well.
  • 11-27-2012
    PeterG
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DTP View Post
    quick question:
    how much fork travel would you recommend on a pivot 5.7C

    As much as you like while keeping the bike weight below 11.5kg :D ... in reality max. 150mm ;).
  • 11-27-2012
    Isildur
    I've got a Rev 150mm on mine. Feel very well balanced to me, and I definitely wouldn't go any less than that.

    When my brain gets to dreaming, or perhaps thinking of nightmares, and I consider the thought of only having one bike (hopefully the need will never arrive), I've thought of putting a Fox Float 36, lowered to 150mm. This would give a much beefier front end, and increase the A2C by about 8mm.

    I've got all the A2C figures at home, I'll be happy to post them up for you later on if you'd like?
  • 11-27-2012
    razorjack
    fox32 150 - 521mm ?
    fox34 160 - 538mm
    fox36 150 - 545mm

    i had fox34 talas 120-160mm for two months, beautiful black with kahsima, but it worked awfull, no stiction but i felt that it has a lot of compression damping (it felt i was not glued to the ground, not at all ! ), I sold it, now i have borrowed fox36 160 and i'm waiting for mine lyrik 160 rc2dh
  • 11-28-2012
    Isildur
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    So, as it's all in a spreadsheet, and doing a straight Copy/Paste turns the formatting into a nightmare, the easiest way for me to put the data up is from a screen grab :)

    It's all in there, but compared to a Revelation (current fork), a Fox34 @ 150mm wouldn't change the Geometry at all! The Totem will never go on it, but it was a fun thought while I was doing the numbers ;)

    Enjoy!
  • 12-04-2012
    Donodyl
    Hi

    Here a Pivot 5.7 2013 frame size L with a Fox Float 150mn


    I ride this bike for a test review - DW link is better than VPP with much more dynamism. i get a feeling to ride a xcountry even if rear suspension works well on dirty tracks... 150mn travel front fits well to the overall balance of the bike. Not sure than 160mn is a good idea for this frame..
  • 12-21-2012
    bmxconvert


    Excited to be done with the last dual link, carbon bike(broke it/sold it, unfortunately I owned it for less than 4 months)



    Seat dropped


    Lets climb


    I've got different cranks, sprocket, derailleur, chain guide, rims, tires, saddle and stem to go on when the new parts kit shows up for the season. I'll also try to track down a direct mount 142x12 XTR Shadow Plus derailleur. I'm in no rush. My ride time is nearly nothing with my wrists and breathing issues right now.
  • 12-21-2012
    kenbentit
    That's a VERY clean & organized shop! :)
  • 12-23-2012
    bmxconvert
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kenbentit View Post
    That's a VERY clean & organized shop! :)

    Thank you sir! We've really been pushing to change the way shops run. I've always had a thing for those Formula 1 shops that are bleech white and organized like nobodys business. I'm also OCD about things being in their place. I can't be efficient at getting quality work done if I have junk piled up everywhere or one persons project/repair/build running into anothers.
    That bench is about 3 months worth of work. It's tied into the building, there are 4 electrical outlets and 2 air compressor hook ups routed internally along with all of our internet, phone and computer lines. We cut the concrete, ran conduate and retiled to keep everything hidden. There are 500 holes per side to allow for the use of the 100ft of storage through modular shelves.
    We matched our workbench wood, slat wall, display cases and clothing hangers to keep a uniform look.
    If you're ever around Longview Washington come by and check us out. We're very small but we're pushing.
    Follow us on facebook
  • 12-23-2012
    fishboy2807
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quadro View Post
    This is my first carbon mountainbike and I'm a little surprised that the coating is so fragile.[/IMG]

    It must be an ongoing challenge for manufacturers to create light, high performance carbon frames and build in sufficient protection that doesn't add much extra weight. Factory fitted armor is becoming the norm on carbon frames from a number of companies (specialized, santa cruz, Pivot etc) and it's most common on drive side stays and on the lower portion of the downtube which are key areas for damage - and it is great to see. For other areas you can put down a protective film to help avoid the scratches and scrapes. I recently had an opportunity to develop film kits for both the Pivot 5.7 and 429 models. Let me know what you think.
  • 12-23-2012
    PeterG
    Hi Alan, welcome to this forum! As you've noticed, I've changed the brand, but still use Frameskin alike frame protection ;). Your kit looks really very nice, unfortunately I received the frame very early (from the first batch, like Mojo SL :D) and the kit wasn't available yet. Good job!
  • 12-23-2012
    gticlay
    That is a nice shop. My grandmother lives just across the river so when I visit her. I'll have to stop by.
  • 12-23-2012
    fishboy2807
    Oh heya PeterG, long time to chat. These're nice looking bikes, but I am yet to ride one. I still have my SL-R but am thinking about something new (aside from the Badash 29 I rode for the very first time yesterday). Have a good Christmas Sir.
  • 06-14-2013
    adhyanz
    Project Done!!!

    My Pivot 5.7c



    Medium size of frame
    shimano xt
    rs revelation
    spinergy xyclone enduro