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    Help with 1x10 on my 5.7

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    Here is my current set-up and I would like to just make it a 1x10
    What do i need to get to keep the chain from bouncing off.
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    Huh - has no one here ever converted thiers to a 1X10?
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    You have a few options for that setup. The simplest is to just remove the small ring and leave the bash guard on while running a clutch rear der. You can leave the front der. in place as an upper guide or you could purchase one of the XC type guides that bolts on in it's place. The other route would be to purchase the ISCG adaptor for the bike which will allow you to run any chainguide with ISCG05 mounting.
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    Thanks - doesn't look good. I figured this would be something easy that has been done several times before with alot of options.
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    Thanks for the reply - but you are talking way over my head.
    What is a "clutch" rear derailleur?
    What are my options for the XC type guides?
    What is an ISCG and ISCG05?
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    Clutch (not clutch derailleur) is a name of a company that makes a ISCG 05 adapter for press on BB like the Pivot Mach 5/5.7 and Giant Anthem

    I've been doing some searching and it looks to me like the only real option for a chain guide XC or otherwise is to get a ISCG adapter. You can get one through pivot or one of their dealers for $70. It looks bulky though and I'm not sure of the wait time to get one.

    Here's a link to a blog for that:
    Pick it Up PIVOT MACH 5.7 [[Me and My Pivot]]

    You could google for chainstay chain guide and find something like this: Bionicon USA C-Guide Chainguide Which is expensive and not a very good solution IMO.

    Since the Mach 5.7 and 5 use press on BB (as do the Giant Anthem) you could theoretically use the (Clucth) ISCG 05 adapter for the Pivot. I emailed them and took measurements of the BB and it looks like the adapter should work. Once you have an ISCG 05 bolt mounts on your bike you should be able to mount just about any kind of chain guide your hear desires. (Just make sure the chain guide is ISCG 05 and not ISCG (old).
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    You do have a lot of options. I converted my Stumpy to 1x10 and it was pretty easy.

    removed small ring
    replaced small ring with BBG bashguard (as an inner guide for chain retention)
    removed shifter, cable, and derailler
    works well for me (search for chain sandwich or chain bashwich to see details on this type of set-up)

    The aforementioned clutch derailler is the new style deraillers that have an activation threshold so the arm doesn't bounce around as much. This means your chain doesn't bounce around as much and stays on the rings better. These are the Shimano Shadow and SRAM XO/X9 deraillers currently (probably will trickle to lower end deraillers in coming model years) If you have one great. If not, no worries but you will want to consider some kind of chain retention device to keep things quiet and help further ensure your chains stays put. Many options here:

    chain bashwich/sandwich
    full guide with upper guide and lower guide rollers
    partial lower only rollers (blackspire stinger style)
    chain tension devices (Bionicon, etc.)
    Chain keeper devices

    Sorry too much for me to explain in great detail personally but search around a bit in the other forums as well and you will see all kinds of examples.

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    Good options bad andy. Some will not work with a stock Pivot due to the suspension design and press on BB.

    chain bashwich/sandwich (Will work)
    full guide with upper guide and lower guide rollers (Will not work without a ISCG 05 adapter)
    partial lower only rollers (blackspire stinger style) (Will not work without a ISCG 05 adapter)
    chain tension devices (Bionicon, etc.) (But not as well as a real chain guide)
    Chain keeper devices (Will not work because suspension design eliminates the seat tube)

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    Thanks for clarifying, was beginning to realize I was getting in over my head with too many details to cover.

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    Thanks for the info all!!
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