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    Hope Any 650b news?

    It seems like theres a surge of new short travel 650 bikes from competitors like Santa Cruz, Turner, Ventana...( plus Rocky Mountain plan to release one).

    Anyone know if pivot plan to build one? I'd be keen for sure.
    Why are pivot so much slower to react than the competition?

    Lets hope for something positive!

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    Sorry, I meant short travel (5" or less).
    A bike for the everyday rider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mederz View Post
    Sorry, I meant short travel (5" or less).
    A bike for the everyday rider.
    Noone rides those on MTBR...

    Sorry.

    I suspect CC has something cooking in 27.5. Odd that there was no announcement at dealer camp which is when he unveiled the 5.7 Carbon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobo_krkk_NIN View Post
    Noone rides those on MTBR...

    Sorry.

    I suspect CC has something cooking in 27.5. Odd that there was no announcement at dealer camp which is when he unveiled the 5.7 Carbon...
    Dealer Camp is at the end of July.

    Press Camp just happened, and we don't participate in that.

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    A carbon Mach 527.5 would be nice! Just saying!

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    A fly told me at nemba fest in VT this past weekend that a few (carbon)650b are in the works.
    Hadn't seen a carbon Pivot in person yet and was totally blown away.
    The Les was a cool bike as was the Phoenix, although i wish the one at the fest was a demo. Would have liked to rip Knight Slayer & Jester on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dan23 View Post
    Dealer Camp is at the end of July.

    Press Camp just happened, and we don't participate in that.

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    Thanks. I got confused with Park City events. Curious why not attend that event?

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    I had a conversation a year or two ago with another _DW link licensing company about the cost of entry to events like Press Camp, Sea Otter, and Interbike that really shed some light on why some smaller companies stay away. I don't remember the number but the cost of setting up a booth was pretty significant. Maybe Cocalis et al. feel like it'd be better to spend their coin elsewhere like the new sweet demo truck or dealer camp where they'll interact with people who will be ordering the bikes instead of people who expect to borrow and beat up the bikes for free so they can write about it.

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    dw-link [obviously]. 650b wheels. 100-120 travel. Let's make this happen, Pivot. I vote for gloss black paint or nude grey carbon. We'll put nice light XC tires on for 6 hour endurance races and beefy knobtastic tires on for enduro. One bike = Pivot

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    Quote Originally Posted by urbiksux View Post
    dw-link [obviously]. 650b wheels. 100-120 travel. Let's make this happen, Pivot. I vote for gloss black paint or nude grey carbon. We'll put nice light XC tires on for 6 hour endurance races and beefy knobtastic tires on for enduro. One bike = Pivot
    I'd add improved cable routing and a slightly more compliant suspension (120-130mm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by edbraunbeck View Post
    I'd add improved cable routing and a slightly more compliant suspension (120-130mm).
    The Aluminum version of this bike was announced at Press Camp. Not a Pivot though.
    Your avatar would indicate that you would know about it.

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    Let's hope for some news at Dealer Camp. I'm sure Pivot is working on more 650b models. They'll take their time until they're happy with the design(s). OK by me. My '09 Mach 4 is still a fantastic bike. Can't imagine replacing it with anything 'cept a Pivot 650b short travel bike.

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    All positive...but it would be nice to get a teaser from Pivot themselves. Might stop me buying from the competition.
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    Also, I couldn't care less if its carbon - alloy's fine by me. Just keep the chainstays at a real length (the both Turner 650s are just too long).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mederz View Post
    Also, I couldn't care less if its carbon - alloy's fine by me.
    I'm with you. Pivot's aluminum fab work is, um, fab. I appreciate alloy as a lower-cost option. I don't mind the "extra" weight. I've demo'ed their carbon frames, and I have no doubt that they're strong enough, but I don't like the *sound* that carbon makes when things are flapping around. Sounds like plastic. I know it's silly, but I prefer the pinging sound that metal makes when I'm putting a bike through its paces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mederz View Post
    Just keep the chainstays at a real length (the both Turner 650s are just too long).
    Just looked at the new Flux geo numbers. I have to agree with you - chainstays are too long (17.4"). The head angle is perfect though (68 deg).

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    Quote Originally Posted by edbraunbeck View Post
    I'd add improved cable routing and a slightly more compliant suspension (120-130mm).
    I'm with you

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    Yall are all right on the money! Hoping Pivot is thinking the 5.7c can handle everything well for a while and is focusing production on a shorter travel "solo destroyer/flux incapacitator" 650b for those of us who don't live on a mountain yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden boy View Post
    Just looked at the new Flux geo numbers. I have to agree with you - chainstays are too long (17.4"). The head angle is perfect though (68 deg).
    So what would be the perfect chainstay length for your dream 650B?

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    I would love to see Pivot make a 650b, I wonder if this could be it, digging the color.
    <Any 650b news?-pivot-spy.jpg

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    looks like a pic they teased a few dealer with HMMMMMM

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    I like the internal cable routing and the color looks fun. It looks like they are sticking with bold graphic but that's grown on me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtnbiker4life View Post
    So what would be the perfect chainstay length for your dream 650B?
    Something under 17". I built a hardtail at UBI with 420mm (16.5") stays. Of course, it turned out that a front der wouldn't fit, which I would have liked. I like lots of gears. I call it my play bike - it is so maneuverable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mosh1dh View Post
    I would love to see Pivot make a 650b, I wonder if this could be it, digging the color.
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