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    What is With This Place?

    Seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatroll
    Seriously.

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    paging nepmtba.......

    nepmtba to the white courtesy phone please.
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    the 5th poster, ganginwoods, is correct

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    trolling?

    ( sorry, couldn't resist )

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    I agree. Methinks I smells a troll.

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    The name doesn't imply the means. Troll is part of my last name.

    I think it was a pretty legit question. I took a few minutes to look down the page. 30 out of 50 posts were by the same people, touching on the same things. Just a little strange, that's all. Apparently by the response, I'm the oddball here. Carry on.

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    ohh, you probably were fooled by the title into thinking that this forum covered ALL of PA....

    silly troll....do you see now that this is the NEPMTBA forum..!!..??......

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    Good job!

    I don't know? <br>I'm too busy having fun RIDING to notice!<br><br><img smilieid="3" src="http://forums.mtbr.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"><br>&nbsp;

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatroll
    The name doesn't imply the means. Troll is part of my last name.

    I think it was a pretty legit question. I took a few minutes to look down the page. 30 out of 50 posts were by the same people, touching on the same things. Just a little strange, that's all. Apparently by the response, I'm the oddball here. Carry on.

    Don't take offense, I agree.

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    What is With This Place...My Version

    Quote Originally Posted by nepatroll
    Seriously.
    NEPATROLL, here is my point of view. I have a great friend who introduced me to this sport early this summer and I got my first bike shortly thereafter. Being involved with mountain biking and building/maintaining trails has helped me get stronger, lose weight, and quit smoking! To me, that is very exciting! Being a part of a group that builds and maintains trails that anyone can use and enjoy that is very exciting, too. I feel very passionate about this sport and all the great people I have met because of it. Do I get carried away? Yes, I probably do sometimes! Will I change or cut back on my posts? Absolutely Not! If anyone has a problem with that...I am sorry you feel that way, but please refer to my signature line!
    Waging war on my pedals every chance I get!!!

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    nepatroll,

    it was too easy a pun for me to miss. i'm not trying to be antagonistic.

    nepawhatsitcallshimselv has a lot of enthusiasm to share, and moto has picked up on that and has his own, and i'm all in belief that if people want to say something to share their Passions they should.

    The fact that more people visiting this particular corner of the forums are more reserved and not sharing of their passions, well, that means they're just not sharing their passions. It's no big deal. Nobody is required to.

    Other people post up semi-regularly, just not as frequently. I'm on-and-off. JeffSkisMontana is. Larry Fahn has great stuff to say. Nankerwhatshishane comes to mind too. I'm slowly learning more of the locals too, but there's many more good people on this area than I'm remembering, many more than I'm knowing, for sure.

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    Try email

    Or nepmtbas Shout box

    We'll do the thinking for you two.
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    What is With This Place?

    Not to sound like a smart-a$*, but why can't we all just get along. Everybody on this board obviously loves mountain biking so why can't we just all shut up and ride? That is what I am going to do....I am sick and tired of people shooting off their mouths because I like to talk about what I feel passionate about!!! NUF SAID!!!
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    No good

    Another useless thread............

    "RIDE"


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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFahn
    Try email

    Or nepmtbas Shout box

    We'll do the thinking for you two.
    Rob:

    Thanks for the advice!
    I "THINK" I will stick to posting in MTBR and speaking directly to you in person!

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    My posts are purely narcissistic: I like to see my face and words on the interweb.

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    What is With This Place?

    Quote Originally Posted by nankerphelge
    My posts are purely narcissistic: I like to see my face and words on the interweb.
    Al Gore did not have your narcissistic tendencies in mind when he created the internet!
    Waging war on my pedals every chance I get!!!

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by motoman465
    Al Gore did not have your narcissistic tendencies in mind when he created the internet!
    Al Gore lied....

    "INTERNET"... Ya,,,,, My idea!

    LMAO

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    I've lived in 6 states over the last 15 years because of work. This is the only forum that exists to this capacity that caters to a select few. I don't speak for anyone else, but I can't imagine this not driving everyone nuts.

    NEPMTBA, there's 2 threads on here about motorcycles and another that has to do with some cat abhorrently photo-shopped into pictures. It appears these aforementioned threads are based around you and 2 other guys. I find it sort of ironic that you are going say..."another useless thread" when it seems you are the epitome of useless information. Not for nothing.....but I noticed all this in just 1 week of being a PA resident. Which is why I posted..."What is With This Place?" If you feel I'm embelishing the facts.....here's a challenge. Lurk the other forums and find something similar to this environment. I dare you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatroll
    NEPMTBA, there's 2 threads on here about motorcycles and another that has to do with some cat abhorrently photo-shopped into pictures. It appears these aforementioned threads are based around you and 2 other guys. I find it sort of ironic that you are going say..."another useless thread" when it seems you are the epitome of useless information. Not for nothing.....but I noticed all this in just 1 week of being a PA resident. Which is why I posted..."What is With This Place?" If you feel I'm embelishing the facts.....here's a challenge. Lurk the other forums and find something similar to this environment. I dare you.
    BINGO! FTW!

    Motoman, It's great that you found a passion for the sport we too love. We want to hear about your first trip to Merli and how that hill sucked. We want to hear about the time when you were riding and you were in the zone. Gathering info on Wissahickon to make a day trip. Pics of you riding Raystown. The time you cleared that damn hill. Your experience of your first drop. A bad crash that you walked away from... That's what a mtn biking forum is about. You'll meet a lot of us along the way and have a ton of friends to share your riding stories with! Maybe you'll come up Hubbard on a Thursnight and meet 60+ riders of all abilities and get some advice from others. You can find motivation when your with a group of riders that share similar stories... Food and beer, too. But, the "new topic" button in a statewide forum shouldn't be used for inside jokes or things that you can simply handle in an email or phone call to Lee. It's that specific that it's between you and Lee and sometimes 1-2 others. Lee said he has a shout box on his website. Can you guys post the stuff that "we" aren't going to have any interest in or understand, on that site or an email? Please? Don't take what I'm saying as a me-versus-you or us-versus-you. Lets ride and talk about riding. We will eventually meet.

    Over a million people view this site per month. If you thought of going to Fruita, Durango or Moab and went to the appropriate forum and read SPAM and advertisements all over the place, would consider going back to that forum? Of course not. The thing is, NEPA is becoming a destination that people come to ride. We have Prompton, Merli, Moosic and Lackawanna State Park all within 20 minutes. Not to mention Francis Slocum, 7 Tubs, and Moon Lake within 30 minutes. I see people from Ny at Moosic almost every time I'm up there working or riding. Binghamton, Syracuse, White Mills. Jersey, Philly and DC. These guys didn't need 20 threads daily to remind them of Moosic. Just a little reminder of updates... Like a new trail or a get together.

    Lee, nepmatb, What can I say? Once or twice a year Mr. Hyde comes out. Considering Lee wants to advertise his work, which is great, I find it more of a reason to not go there again because of the 15 new topics started about the place every day. Instead of "New Topic" try "Reply" to an already open thread. I feel like someone will be trolling me on the trails with a rake or something. Anyone else feel that way?

    NEPA Troll, Where are you living? Send me a PM and I'll give you the most useful info on Northeast PA.

    ttyl, Fahn
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    Anybody can post pics and ride reports. If you wanna post (like you did) you can. Some people are a little over the top with their posting enthusiasm, that doesn't make them bad people. You don't have to read anything you don't want to. As far as the posting of pics of rides, I think it's a good way to get a feel for a place before driving somewhere with the wrong bike or unrealistic expectations. I wish I would have read something or looked at some pics of Francis Slocum for example before wasting my time. If people annoy you there is an ignore feature here, use it.

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    ... and if we just ...

    Rob & troll:

    nepmtba@yahoo.com or in person

    Have a Happy Thanksgiving Holiday...

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    Guess they can't make the connection between moto and mtb?Rob,thanks for straightening out what forums are for.Would have never known with out you. Troll are you workihg at the Tobyhanna Army Depot?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxer
    Guess they can't make the connection between moto and mtb?Rob,thanks for straightening out what forums are for.Would have never known with out you. Troll are you workihg at the Tobyhanna Army Depot?
    Obviously it needs explaining. Hopefully we helped you understand. Yours truly, Fahn
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    Quote Originally Posted by mxer
    Guess they can't make the connection between moto and mtb?
    Why? Do they talk about mountain biking over in the motocross forum?
    Although, I once posted a stroller topic in a car and driver thread. The similarities were analogous.

    4 wheels.
    You have to steer it.
    Both have passengers

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPMTBA
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    nepmtba@yahoo.com or in person
    i'd like to see it unfold in this arena. for as much crap as we had to look at for the last few years, it seems like an inalienable right owed to members of the pa community. just keep it in this thread so the rest of the board isn't littered with nonsense and cliffbars.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Aswell
    the 5th poster, ganginwoods, is correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganginwood
    i'd like to see it unfold in this arena. for as much crap as we had to look at for the last few years, it seems like an inalienable right owed to members of the pa community. just keep it in this thread so the rest of the board isn't littered with nonsense and cliffbars.
    Hum? Nonsense? Capitalization & punctuation would be nice! Of course you nor Rob have emailed like gentlemen with a "real" problems now have you? I guess you just want to be heard. Meeting in person would revel too much about other things. You just want a to have an NEPMTBA bashing thread. I guess you really can't deal with all our success.

    Inalienable rights according to ganginwood? So, basically your saying posts about Clifbars (not posted by me by the way)and your view of what you call nonsense is just that "your attempt to silence others who post stuff you don't want to look at" Good luck on that one!

    I think "everyone" would like to see unfold in this arena talk and informing "everyone" about trails you build and ride? Does the Pa community know where they are? Don't we all have inalienable rights to ride them? Please "educate" and share with "all" of us. "Everyone" likes trails and "more" trails are always better. Why not invite "everyone" to ride them? Hum? Why not put up a post about all the trails you ride, so guys that post about Clif bars can come and ride them also? GOT TRAILS?

    We will now continue or (as ganginwood calls them)"littering posts

    You dug your own ditch my friend! I think you "now" have enough rope!

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    I could be way off but it appears the part your missing is that it's the same people responding to the same garbage. It also looks like you have an organization that is represented by one person.

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    My outsiders point of view, You guys are sounding and looking ridiculous. Yes it is nice to share info about your trails, workdays, group rides, pics, success, etc. but lately it is overboard. I come to this forum looking for information on trails, maps, and people to ride with when I am coming to the area. To be honest it is frustrating and confusing to have to filter through post with pics of people standing around in a parking lots and insiders jokes, not to metion all the politics between groups, this all leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I fully understand the idea of getting out the information but some of this stuff should stick to the groups web-page or the sticky at the top of the page. If you really want to make the area a mountain biking destination you all need to settle/discuss your diferences in private, and work together. Here in Vermont we have destination successes such as the Kingdomtrails, Millstone, and the beginning of a ride center in Stowe. None of these would be what they are today without all groups working together. No hard feelings I'm looking forward to riding your area this weekend, I'm just giving you an outsiders point of view

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryFahn
    Obviously it needs explaining. Hopefully we helped you understand. Yours truly, Fahn
    Rob,you should man up and get a moto bike and maybe you would be a little wiser and it wouldn't need explaining because you would understand.I'll even take you riding.With that being said have a great holiday season and get out and ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatroll
    I could be way off but it appears the part your missing is that it's the same people responding to the same garbage. It also looks like you have an organization that is represented by one person.
    Seems the air went out of your sails. Are you now troubled by "other" things, troll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatroll
    Why? Do they talk about mountain biking over in the motocross forum?
    Although, I once posted a stroller topic in a car and driver thread. The similarities were analogous.

    4 wheels.
    You have to steer it.
    Both have passengers
    Yes they do!Cycling,running,weight training,nutrition etc..Very open minded people versus most but not all mtb people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganginwood
    i'd like to see it unfold in this arena. for as much crap as we had to look at for the last few years, it seems like an inalienable right owed to members of the pa community. just keep it in this thread so the rest of the board isn't littered with nonsense and cliffbars.
    Gagonwood,you got invited years ago to come ride.Was even gonna pay for your gas.You never responded.You are A funny person!

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    GAGONWOOD...

    mxer you crack me up!
    LMAO

    Well Gag? Moto?
    This Sunday?
    We got a bike for ya?
    Easy to ride version
    Great way to get aggression out.
    All about fun!
    Motoman will bring Clifbars
    No lycra required...
    "JUST BRING YOUR BIG SET"
    You do have them? Don't you?

    I invited Rob also years ago. Heck, Kev from Plains even motoed with us!

    We are all one big happy family.

    Man, I love dem smiley things

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPMTBA
    NEPMTBA
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    I don't know Kevin personally, but if the comparison you are trying to make here is that Kevin's blog is overloaded with his personal riding activities, well...that's what personal blogs are for. I don't see all of this on here as he keeps it on his own site. His blog looks fine to me, or is it because he basically says, on his own site, what he thinks about Moon Lake that has you upset? At least he had the decency NOT to bring it on here.

    Kevin, nice blog!

    Lee, maybe you are not seeing this the way ALL of us are. You are posting up nonsense over and over again in the same topics just to keep the topics on top of the page. C'mon...cats photshopped on motorcycles? Now you know me, I love cats, but that's overboard.

    Every time someone posts something up you immediatly bury it. No one can get their information up at all. And then when people start calling you out on it and start hitting you with facts you start yelling "Useless Post" It's comical already.

    I am still your friend and have stated that to all the people that have been emailing me lately. Your heart is in the right place, but it's not all about you here. This is a board for the whole state, not the private message forum for NEPMTBA. You have your site & shoutbox for the craziness, just as we have ours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPMTBA
    GAGONWOOD...

    mxer you crack me up!
    LMAO

    Well Gag? Moto?
    This Sunday?
    We got a bike for ya?
    Easy to ride version
    Great way to get aggression out.
    All about fun!
    Motoman will bring Clifbars
    No lycra required...
    "JUST BRING YOUR BIG SET"
    You do have them? Don't you?

    I invited Rob also years ago. Heck, Kev from Plains even motoed with us!

    We are all one big happy family.

    Man, I love dem smiley things

    Really Pennsylvania, Is this the best that you can do?

    Why is there a NEPMTBA sticky at the top of the page. Shouldn't that be NEPA Trail Info? Its almost as if the title of the thread is perfect for this area. A seemingly One Man Association who represents an entire geographical area. Again....six much bigger states in my travels and I never saw a sticky at the top of any of these pages for trail info. I can't wait to meet this guy. I was also PM'd and told that he'll ask the moderator to remove threads that calls him out. Is this true?

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    nepatroll,

    The only reason i've been able to figure out why there isn't a NEPA (and SEPA and ...) trail info sticky is that there's not enough regional cohesion to do it. I started trolling MTBR and the internet for info of the region way back in January when it looked likely that the Bear Clan was moving here and it took a LONG time to get any real information because of how discrete things are, and how poorly linked they are. For a real good example on how it SHOULD be go look at the MTBR Arizona Forum and scope the sticky there.

    I'm all in favor of the different groups minding their own back yards, it really does make sense that way quite frankly. But I do think that the region would benefit from a more cohesive presentation. Making things easier to find for visitors and newcomers and long term residents alike.

    Plains Bike, you find this a curiosity - I certainly do - but in using the internet since 1991 or so I've never run into a ShoutBox before I got up here. I think it serves a good purpose, but a (mostly-un- / lightly-) moderated discussion forum it is not.

    The WVMTBA discussion forum isn't a bad place either, but it's not (for lack of better terms) agnostic-enough nor responsive-enough (per-post moderator approval requirements prevent it from) to be much more widely used, it could never sustain if it had 100+ people posting a couple times an hour.

    I'm sure other bike groups in the state have their own forums/boxes too, as they should.

    Sadly, most people don't seem to participate in the MTBR PA forum for whatever reason and that dramatically reduces the utility of this forum.

    I've also tried to read the DirtRag forums, which seem a niece enough in it's own way, and I certainly love the Rag, but their forums presentation almost drives me away from it on sight. I still haven't figured that one out.

    RideMonkey has lots of good discussions too, not a bad alternative. Haven't been a regular on there in a long time though.

    NEPAMTBA may benefit from a group discussion forum (sorry gang, ShoutBox isn't the same), hard to say. They'd certainly be able to share the craziness there w/o "chuffing off" people who weren't regional. Non trivial undertaking though.

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    ^ Sorry about the moderated posts at wvmtba, but as you know we have been battling the trolls over there big time. It's not the bots either, it's real people now trying to get on the forum to post up "Russina Brides..Viagra...all that stuff. Some are even being so witty now as to try to respond to a post but when we pull up their profile all the spam is in their signiature lines. Gotta give them credit, they are trying!

    NEPMTBA'S shoutbox is moderated the same way, so in actuality it's the same thing. The message forum Lee has over there is also quiet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plains Bike
    ^ Sorry about the moderated posts at wvmtba, but as you know we have been battling the trolls over there big time. It's not the bots either, it's real people now trying to get on the forum to post up "Russina Brides..Viagra...all that stuff. Some are even being so witty now as to try to respond to a post but when we pull up their profile all the spam is in their signiature lines. Gotta give them credit, they are trying!

    NEPMTBA'S shoutbox is moderated the same way, so in actuality it's the same thing. The message forum Lee has over there is also quiet.
    I totally understand the reasoning, and don't argue that! :^)

    And yeah, now that you remind me, I have a link to the NEPMTBA forums somewhere (and have posted there) but for obvious reasons don't use it.

    And yes, "they" try hard. There's lots of money in the direct-spam business. I thought it was bad when it was just direct-mail (my older sister worked in telecomms marketing for a while so I used to hear ALL the dirt) but now that it's electronic it is just completely out of control.

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    ^Yeah, no kidding. I guess they actually pay people now to just sit at home and spam sites.

    I had 3 today so far that I deleted before they got posted...and it's funny, one actually asked about the CDH ride and bringing a camera.....from Latvia!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plains Bike
    ^Yeah, no kidding. I guess they actually pay people now to just sit at home and spam sites.
    From what I understand there also exist complexes where 50+ workers come to warehouse type facilities to do it all en-masse. Scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatroll
    Really Pennsylvania, Is this the best that you can do?

    Why is there a NEPMTBA sticky at the top of the page. Shouldn't that be NEPA Trail Info? Its almost as if the title of the thread is perfect for this area. A seemingly One Man Association who represents an entire geographical area. Again....six much bigger states in my travels and I never saw a sticky at the top of any of these pages for trail info. I can't wait to meet this guy. I was also PM'd and told that he'll ask the moderator to remove threads that calls him out. Is this true?
    Funny, I posted that to ganginwood(mxers version GAGONWOOD) yet you responded?

    Hum? Cat's out of the bag now!
    When do we all get to meet you in person? NEPAtroll?

    Doesn't matter what happens here on MTBR I think you should consider the people you have offended in the "real" world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPMTBA
    Funny, I posted that to ganginwood(mxers version GAGONWOOD) yet you responded?

    Hum? Cat's out of the bag now!
    When do we all get to meet you in person? NEPAtroll?

    Doesn't matter what happens here on MTBR I think you should consider the people you have offended in the "real" world.
    sorry lee. i wish it were true. you know i don't like you, i know i don't like you. i don't even know if i like what this other guy is doing. but either way i have the balls to tell you to your face that i don't like you.

    it ain't personal.

    edit: all i asked was that this be resolved in this thread for everyone to see. i'd like to see both sides. and i would hate to see another thread , one thread for *****ing seems like enough. good luck with your other battles.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Aswell
    the 5th poster, ganginwoods, is correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganginwood
    sorry lee. i wish it were true. you know i don't like you, i know i don't like you. i don't even know if i like what this other guy is doing. but either way i have the balls to tell you to your face that i don't like you.

    and it ain't personal.
    Agreed!
    And I, to you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPMTBA
    Funny, I posted that to ganginwood(mxers version GAGONWOOD) yet you responded?
    It's official. Name calling has commenced. Classy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear
    nepatroll,


    NEPAMTBA may benefit from a group discussion forum (sorry gang, ShoutBox isn't the same), hard to say. They'd certainly be able to share the craziness there w/o "chuffing off" people who weren't regional. Non trivial undertaking though.
    Ted:

    We have a forum, but as you can see by all this nonsense no one here will work together and since we are into Moto and Jetski and Snow machines. Others who "bike" are threatened by that!

    NEPMTBA was the original and very successful. Our members ride, race and trail build in many venues as do we help others anyway we can! We're happy with our system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NEPMTBA
    NEPMTBA was the original
    Wow- that's quite a statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyDean
    It's official. Name calling has commenced. Classy!
    Roy,

    Pay attention! mxer called him that first.

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    The original?

    Try Lackawanna Bike Club. Merli? How about Lackawanna? Prompton? They're all from members of the LBC. Gene and Pete Katapski (LBC) built Merli. Joe Tierney (LBC) established a great relation at LSP and fixes the old trails and put in several new ones. Pender (LBC) built Prompton with his own hands practically.

    Hubbard stepped in to help stop the timbering at Merli. Hubbard didn't build it or post their name on it. I'd post info if Hubbard was up maintaining it. That's it though.

    Lee, remember that ride you, Jay and I had after that day of clearing the trails at Merli? 12 people showed up and most left before lunch. Randy stuck around for that and the beginning of the ride and then split. But, you, Jay and me were riding right on that day. We were all in the zone! That was one of my favorite rides I can recall.

    What ever happened to those times? ttyl, Fahn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plains Bike
    I don't know Kevin personally, but if the comparison you are trying to make here is that Kevin's blog is overloaded with his personal riding activities, well...that's what personal blogs are for. I don't see all of this on here as he keeps it on his own site. His blog looks fine to me, or is it because he basically says, on his own site, what he thinks about Moon Lake that has you upset? At least he had the decency NOT to bring it on here.

    Kevin, nice blog!

    Lee, maybe you are not seeing this the way ALL of us are. You are posting up nonsense over and over again in the same topics just to keep the topics on top of the page. C'mon...cats photshopped on motorcycles? Now you know me, I love cats, but that's overboard.

    Every time someone posts something up you immediatly bury it. No one can get their information up at all. And then when people start calling you out on it and start hitting you with facts you start yelling "Useless Post" It's comical already.

    I am still your friend and have stated that to all the people that have been emailing me lately. Your heart is in the right place, but it's not all about you here. This is a board for the whole state, not the private message forum for NEPMTBA. You have your site & shoutbox for the craziness, just as we have ours.

    Kevin
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    So check the photo shopped cat on a motorcycle. Blaming me? Might be an oversight look at the names on threads and who posts them. I'm not purposely trying to jamb posts to the top. It does seem MTBR is really busy and lot's are posting due to all the busy server notices I get, So it's not being done by me on purpose, yes there is a lot of posting. None the less I support the person in our camp who did the Hucking Kitty and it is funny in our camp. Hucking Kitty has been around a while and it is funny to "us" in "our camp" I guess it goes back to: Don't like stuff in others posts, don't go there! Posting your dislike is cool, but telling others how to post or constant preaching about... com'on you know this s88t.

    So, where is the negativity in posting for everyone to read Diebert's blog? His disliking of Moon Lake has to do with a whole other topic you weren't a party to, and his liking or dislike of Moon Lake doesn't matter to me. His blog, his opinions!

    NEPMTBA
    LOOKING AT DIEBERT"S BLOG

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