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    Western PA represent

    People are gonna think this is the Eastern PA forum for chrissakes

    I live a short ride from Brady's Run & wanted to ride something different so I rode Moraine Saturday. The trails were in surprisingly good shape. There's still snow on the ground up there but the trails are 90% clear. I started to check out the new downhill section but the sun was getting low & I figured I'd better start heading back. Great ride

    On the way there I stopped at Brush Creek for an easy XC warm up ride. A little muddy in a few spots but for the most part it was good.

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    I live near Latrobe, but I didn't go riding on Saturday

    Was thinking about going up to Laurel Mtn, but I figured the trails would be a mess.
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    Western PA rider here. Actually an Ohio resident, but close enough to the state line that I do a large part of my riding in PA.

    Was hoping to ride at Moraine on Sunday, but with the rain coming down pretty solid I decided to stay home (probably the wrong decision).

    Hoping to get some daylight hours off work this week and spend a couple hours out there riding.

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    Rode frick park sat morning still some ice in spots didnt get very muddy either.

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    That's why I posted our Saturday ride at Roaring Run, figured it's time for us WPA guys to step up. Last couple of weeks have been so crappy weather wise I didn't bother. Here's one from the Butler - Freeport Trail a couple of weeks ago when the snow was too deep to ride in the woods. The rail trail wasn't too good either.

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    Live near Johnstown. Haven't been on the trails lately due to a combination of snow and rain making the trails soupy and unrideable.

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    another western pa rider here! i've only rode twice so far this year and most of my riding has been on the road. i'm itching to ride Apollo or Springs but the way the weather has been that's not going to happen for a while.

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    Back home after a 7 year stint in WV. Now in Westmont (Johnstown). Pleased to see all the new trails at Laurel Mountain. Took a few rides to get re-oriented. Would like to get over to Raystown when spring rolls around again. Went to Blue Knob once since being back, but that was for a day of snowboarding. Also looking forward to a spin around Mingo when visiting the parents in Monongahela. Still spend most of my mtbr time in the WV/VA forum due to all of the close friends there. Besides, I don't really need to read about Moon Lake on a daily basis.
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    Ligonier resident here......Laurel Mtn is still a sheet of ice. I checked it out Monday AM in the hopes that all the rain and snowmelt had opened something....no. Perhaps with studs you could ride it. Way slick/icy. The coupla inches of snow per night on the mtn top will likely have the XC ski crew back in force. Heading to Ray's this weekend....

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuckaloe
    Ligonier resident here.......
    By chance, do you happen to know Jeff the chiropractor in Ligonier? He's an ol' bud from high school. Love Ruthie's Diner, Fat Daddy's, and of course the Pie Shoppe in Laughlintown.
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    Davis,
    No, I don't know Jeff. It's a small town however. I'm sure to run into him sooner or later. Nearly every one of the establishments you mention is the beginning or ending of a ride on Laurel Mtn. Bull's Tavern has some outrageous cheesesteaks, too.

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    Anf

    RIding is great on the ANF outside Warren right now!


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    Quote Originally Posted by daveg66
    That's why I posted our Saturday ride at Roaring Run, figured it's time for us WPA guys to step up. Last couple of weeks have been so crappy weather wise I didn't bother. Here's one from the Butler - Freeport Trail a couple of weeks ago when the snow was too deep to ride in the woods. The rail trail wasn't too good either.

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    That is an excellent picture.

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    I usually take Monday/Tuesday off so I have the parks pretty much to myself, I live in the Strip District with plenty of trails close enough to mountain bike daily and when not on the dirt I have miles of rails and trails a block from my front door when I want to go pedal around and not worry about traffic.

    Frick, NP, Moraine, Riverview, 7 springs.... even Snowshoe is only a few hours away

    I am pretty happy in Western pa.... Ray's should be in the Strip and a few more trails with logs, rocks, jumps, drops and berms is all it needs


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    Quote Originally Posted by davis
    By chance, do you happen to know Jeff the chiropractor in Ligonier? He's an ol' bud from high school. Love Ruthie's Diner, Fat Daddy's, and of course the Pie Shoppe in Laughlintown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fat guy
    RIding is great on the ANF outside Warren right now!

    Looks great. I've got a long history of backpacking & kayaking over that way and would love to get on some Nat'l Forest trails with the mtb. Do you mostly ride Morrison & Rimrock, or do some of those barely-heard-of trails over there actually exist? It would be great to get a couple of leads to explore...

    How much snow did the trails get during the Feb. 6 blizzard?

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    Another Western PA rider just out of hibernation-

    From Uniontown--hit up Quebec Run and Big Bear as much as I can. Keep hoping for something to develop at Ohiopyle.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by jeffw-13
    People are gonna think this is the Eastern PA forum for chrissakes

    I live a short ride from Brady's Run & wanted to ride something different so I rode Moraine Saturday. The trails were in surprisingly good shape. There's still snow on the ground up there but the trails are 90% clear. I started to check out the new downhill section but the sun was getting low & I figured I'd better start heading back. Great ride

    On the way there I stopped at Brush Creek for an easy XC warm up ride. A little muddy in a few spots but for the most part it was good.
    You mean this isn't the NE forum?... JUST KIDDING!

    Good to see our other coast neighbors all fired up and hitting the dirt! Keep the good stuff coming!!!!!!

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    As an east coast transplant living in Colorado, it's good to see things picking up back home. There is so much potential.

    Might even have to make an appearance this summer and ride the loop at Bradys Run again a couple times. I miss the wet roots, short climbs, and mud quite a bit living out in the Rockies.
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    I live South of Butler. Ride Hartwood Acres, North Park, Moraine, and Alameda. Anybody know of a weekly group ride at any of those places? Recently moved back to the area and need to get OUT.

    Thanks.

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    Old, sick and overworked, nonetheless I managed to head over to Moraine to check on trail conditions yesterday (3/11/10). There's still snow left in the woods, but only about 5% of the trail had snow on it. Add to that maybe 20% that had standing water or was saturated and you still had enough rideable trail to make my day. Bottom line: it's gonna rain Friday and Saturday at least, so the snow should be almost gone, but the trails are still going to have large wet areas. If you're a conscientious rider you could fit in a ride without destroying the trails but it's gonna mean getting off and walking the bike past some wet patches. The loops near the Mt. Union parking area should be the most solid - the big loop is likely to have some serious bogs in a couple of areas.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpXu1F-UW10

    Have fun and be kind to the singletrack.

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    Wow, thanks Steve. That's good news. If the sun comes out for a few days next week....

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    Nice video, looks like a cool spot.

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    Might go out sunday to rake in a section and see how the new trails handled the winter. Should be interesting to see how the new DH holds up under the soggy spring conditions.

    If anyone is riding moraine and they come up to a mud hole feel free to pile rocks off the trail at that specific location and i will stop and rock armor throughout the spring. Big flat rocks are preferable to small or oblong. Piles of rocks help me out big time as i dont have to spend time searching.

    also please let me know about downed tree's as the thaw is sure to loosen some up.

    I will post up how the trail looks if i can get out.

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    I will definitely help out with some rock piles, then. My schedule has gone all to hell so that my free time is a rarity and making it to a trail work day is unlikely. But when I'm there I'll be sure to pick some spots and collect up a pile or two.

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    I'm from near Mt. Pleasant here. Just coming out of skiers hibernation. Winter is over down here, but I think it's gonna be awhile before Laurel Mountain is in riding condition. There is an INSANE amount of snow pack to melt then a butt ton of water to dry up.

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    Was out to Roaring Run Apollo yesterday and trails were in suprisingly good condition. Rode the whole Race Loop.

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    Looks great. I've got a long history of backpacking & kayaking over that way and would love to get on some Nat'l Forest trails with the mtb. Do you mostly ride Morrison & Rimrock, or do some of those barely-heard-of trails over there actually exist? It would be great to get a couple of leads to explore...

    How much snow did the trails get during the Feb. 6 blizzard?

    Thanks!

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    Morrison, Tankbark, and a bunch of other rides made up of a combination of illegal ATV trails and other trails.

    Didn't get any snow from the Feb 6th storm, but we got a little every day all thru Feb, its still not melted.

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    Well, here's a better attempt at a Moraine video, the first real attempt with my Helmet Hero, with footage from Sunday, March 15:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAJoRPOSss8

    Obviously I still have a lot to learn about making videos, but it's a start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampboy62
    Well, here's a better attempt at a Moraine video, the first real attempt with my Helmet Hero, with footage from Sunday, March 15:
    Obviously I still have a lot to learn about making videos, but it's a start.
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    I thought the video was quite good, the trail looks awesome and challenging, and I know how much work is involved in making video's, nice job.

    I'm curious, was this with the Helmet Hero HD?
    Reason I ask I'm thinking about getting one, I'm not really happy with the quality of the footage of my MottoComm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrider6
    I thought the video was quite good, the trail looks awesome and challenging, and I know how much work is involved in making video's, nice job.

    I'm curious, was this with the Helmet Hero HD?
    Reason I ask I'm thinking about getting one, I'm not really happy with the quality of the footage of my MottoComm.

    Thanks!

    This was just the regular, not HD, Helmet Hero. The video is fairly good (better on my computer and tv than on Youtube), but I can see why people would go the extra $$$ for the HD. And after using Windows Movie Maker a couple of times I'm also beginning to see why people buy other editing programs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampboy62
    Thanks!

    This was just the regular, not HD, Helmet Hero. The video is fairly good (better on my computer and tv than on Youtube), but I can see why people would go the extra $$$ for the HD. And after using Windows Movie Maker a couple of times I'm also beginning to see why people buy other editing programs.

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    The Helmet Hero HD takes some nice quality video. Another good option is the VholdR Contour HD, which is what I'm using. Just got it last fall, so I don't have any mountain biking vids yet as I haven't had it out. I just love the simplicity of these all in one units compared to the mess of wires my old helmet cam required.
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    Ahhhh. I finally got to go out & ride some singletrack today. (my first trail ride since my original post Jan 24). The past 4 or 5 weeks I was borderline depressed from lack of activity. Just totally unmotivated.

    I'm astonished at the transformation that 2 hours on the back of a bicycle can make in ones life. I'm reborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swampboy62
    Thanks!

    This was just the regular, not HD, Helmet Hero. The video is fairly good (better on my computer and tv than on Youtube), but I can see why people would go the extra $$$ for the HD. And after using Windows Movie Maker a couple of times I'm also beginning to see why people buy other editing programs.

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    Thanks for the reply, even not being HD, it still looks a LOT better than my Mottocomm, and like Judd97 said, much simpler, I have so many cables, microphone, camera, recording device, battery pack, ect...

    Oh did I mention I recently got Sponcered by GoPro on Hookit (used t be Sponcerhouse) they agreed to give me a elite sponcership after seeing I have over 200 video's on Utube, they are offering me 40% off, that seals the deal!
    http://www.hookit.com/members/dirtri...0/default.aspx

    Lots of sponcers on here guy's, and it's free to sign up.

    Thats all I use, Windows Movie Maker, you can't beat it for free, I bought a supposed upgrade editing software once, Pinnacle Studio, it was just to complicated, and the end quality was terrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjmiller
    Another Western PA rider just out of hibernation-

    From Uniontown--hit up Quebec Run and Big Bear as much as I can. Keep hoping for something to develop at Ohiopyle.
    Hey JJ, I'm close by in Smithfield. my wrecking crew rides Quebec weekly w/ the occasional 7Springs DH. Planning a Big Bear trip for sure this spring.

    we signed up last year to be volunteers to help out the Quebec rangers clearing trails which will definetly need work this spring, I'll post a date here when we get coordinated if you're interested...

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    Gonna check out Boyce Park after work this afternoon. Will post up later tonight with trail conditions (and maybe a helmet cam vid if theyr'e any good!)!
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    I live in central pa now, but i used to live in Bethel Park... god i miss that place.. Next time i come out to visit ill have to get ahold of you guys and figure out a ride or something. I wasnt into mountain biking back then so you guys would have to show me around.
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    Boyce is in GREAT shape! A few sections that you might wanna walk due to the muck, but other than that, the trails are great. They've hit that sweet spot of tacky, damp dirt.
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    That'd be awesome. Got word from somebody at Ohiopyle that they're going to do some trail work on Sugarloaf in June and build another trail. They had the IMBA trail school up there a few years ago, so I'm hoping that means good, bike-specific trails.

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    NEPA now......

    but used to live in Bridgeville(Hunting Ridge) and Peters Township years ago.....so like to read/view stories/pictures from Western PA. Hope to make it to Raystown Lake for DirtFest....not exactly WPA but slightly closer....
    There are two paths you can go by but in the long run........

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    oh, c'mon guys, we all know western PA is a joke as a whole. SW PA is wonderful, many of you here will know how truly i feel about that. but NW and even central Western PA is pretty much dead man's land. or rather, inbreederville. sadly, the closest thing to a real trail is morrison (yes, moraine excepted) and that's an ATV trail for our wrestling junkie nascar fans that ruin penn's woods. it's so sad that i see so much potential in the woods around me, but it is my firm belief that 95 of every 100 residents of the NW quarter of the state need relocated to antarctica with 1 pair of wool socks each. hell, if you threw in a case of busch and a welfare check most would go willingly.

    so basically, EFF western PA. i'm just saying what everyone else is thinking (or rather knows to be true)

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    Hello from a former WPA rider! I grew up in Beaver Falls, so I know Brady's Run, Brush Creek, and Moraine very well. I didn't get into mtb until I was in college (Geneva, in BF), and did most of my riding with buddies from the cross country (running) team in West Mayfield park. I rode at Brady's once or twice before moving away to VA for grad school and work back in 1998, but I never rode at Brush Creek or Moraine. One of these days I'll have to bring my bike with me when I go back to visit; I'd love to try out all those trails!

    It's a lot of fun hearing about all those places I remember!

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    Nice to see some western PA stoke for a change! You would think the NE PA folks owned the forum.
    Don't get out to western PA too often but have really enjoyed Rothrock, Raystown, Quebec Run, Laurel Mt, and the xc trails at 7 Springs. Hope to hit Frick next time i'm in P-burgh.
    Is Moraine far from Pittsburgh? I'll be in PB then Toledo for business at the end of April and wouldn't mind checking it out.
    My local rides are Wissahickon, French Creek, Valley Forge, White Clay, Brandywine.

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    Laurel Mtn trails are largely snow free though it looks like you could kayak most of them, or at least catch a few brook trout on them. Probably stick to the road (they repaved Linn Runn road)this weekend but the trails are calling.......amazing really, considering the accumulation the ridge got this winter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougr
    Nice to see some western PA stoke for a change! You would think the NE PA folks owned the forum.
    Don't get out to western PA too often but have really enjoyed Rothrock, Raystown, Quebec Run, Laurel Mt, and the xc trails at 7 Springs. Hope to hit Frick next time i'm in P-burgh.
    Is Moraine far from Pittsburgh? I'll be in PB then Toledo for business at the end of April and wouldn't mind checking it out.
    My local rides are Wissahickon, French Creek, Valley Forge, White Clay, Brandywine.
    Moraine is about 45 minutes to an hour north of PB. It is also best if you have a guide b/c i havent finished the signage yet. PM me well before your expected ride date and i will see if i can show you around. If nothing else others have some good maps to aide you in finding the trail. I am on here every few days, but give me some lead time if you want a guide.

    Moraine is rocky technical riding and probably the most technically difficult trail in WPA. People love it or hate it. No huge climbs but constantly harassing you. it takes roughly 3.5 hours (non racer boi speed) to do all 13'ish miles. Hope that gives you some scope. if you are going to toledo it is pretty much on the way and i would recommend it.

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    rode Quebec run 2 days ago. There is still some snow on the trails. There is a lot of trail work that needs to be done. Trees are down just about everywhere from the snow. It was nice to finally ride the single speed. Can't wait to hit big bear soon. JJ you up for some riding soon???

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    I moved from Pittsburgh 2 years ago and do miss riding in the snow. I have to say though living in southern Arizona makes the winter rides a little more enjoyable. How is the Bavington system holding up?

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    I finally got out on the trails today, it was my first real trail ride of the year. 3 friends and myself rode at Apollo (Roaring Run) for a few hours. We rode pretty much all the trails, I thought that I would be gassed and ready to go home after doing the race loop but instead I felt pretty darn good considering that I have less than a 100 miles under my belt so far this year. Trail conditions were a lot better than expected, there were some wet spots but nothing too bad. Weather was perfect for riding, sunny and low 50's.

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    I live about 15 minutes from Brady's Run and will be riding it tomorrow. Can't wait, it's been awhile.
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