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    Steel City Enduro- anyone else going?

    https://www.bikereg.com/Net/19675

    It was part of the 2 race Endurorama last year, it's at Sals again. I didn't get to ride the Sals race last year, so I'm super stoked!

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    Was considering it but my understanding it is open class,I like races with age groups and talent level.I can do fun group rides anytime anywhere, but to compete in an open pot is pointless as far as,IMO competitive!

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    IN! Missed last year's Endurorama due to injury.
    Should be a good time.

    tech - you should re-consider. These events need support so they grow to the point where they can offer classes / age groups.

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    I would like to do this one, not sure how much I can get ba k in shape by then but may be worth a try. What do you think Lee?

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    Quote Originally Posted by techfersure View Post
    Was considering it but my understanding it is open class,I like races with age groups and talent level.I can do fun group rides anytime anywhere, but to compete in an open pot is pointless as far as,IMO competitive!
    ??? Yeah it's open, but there's a pro class, and an amateur class. I don't understand the age group thing, as I am 32 but there are 48 year olds out there that will straight school me. It's a have-fun-and-raise-money-for-the-trails kinda race, with some minor bragging rights I guess? This is the only race I'll do all year probably, precisely because it's meant to be fun above all.
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    Anyone do this one last year? Thinking about entering. Any descriptions of trails, stage length, etc. would be appreciated! Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike14 View Post
    Anyone do this one last year? Thinking about entering. Any descriptions of trails, stage length, etc. would be appreciated! Thanks!
    Where are you from?

    Here is a map, the trails are rocky in places, flowy in others, but mostly rocky. A really good time. About 7 total miles (I recall hearing that, not sure- the whole trail system is like 10 miles), I didn't race it last year cuz I was out of town, but I was helping out on some pre-race maintenance on Saturday and they said it utilizes almost the whole system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    ??? Yeah it's open, but there's a pro class, and an amateur class. I don't understand the age group thing, as I am 32 but there are 48 year olds out there that will straight school me. It's a have-fun-and-raise-money-for-the-trails kinda race, with some minor bragging rights I guess? This is the only race I'll do all year probably, precisely because it's meant to be fun above all.
    I here what your saying but I'm 56 years old and if I'm going to compete it's nice to have a more even playing field! doing the Platty this weekend,has age groups and all others I plan to do are.since I have to pick and chose those that support age groups get carta blanche!

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    I'm from New York. Seems pretty similar to what I'm used to riding on the trails I ride here. Not sure if it's worth my trip though for only 7 miles of riding to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike14 View Post
    I'm from New York. Seems pretty similar to what I'm used to riding on the trails I ride here. Not sure if it's worth my trip though for only 7 miles of riding to be honest.
    I wouldn't quote me on that lol. We're about 90 minutes from NYC. I'd totally drive 2 hours to run this enduro.
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    Steel City Enduro- anyone else going?

    How do these trails handle the wet? Thinking about heading up this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pike14 View Post
    I'm from New York. Seems pretty similar to what I'm used to riding on the trails I ride here. Not sure if it's worth my trip though for only 7 miles of riding to be honest.
    Enduro Races aren't about distance, but all about the segments. I did the Raven Rock one at Tussey last year. It was a really friendly race, which I prefer.
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    I just moved to the area this past week. I have not even put my bike back together yet, but I would love to ride this race. I have never raced an enduro race before? Can someone familiar with this race tell me a little about the segments? How long are they generally? I am out of racing shape, but this seems like a race that is more about having a fun ride, then going fast in segments for bragging rights.

    Also, would anyone be interested in pre-riding the trails with me this week (I don't like to ride alone and have not met anyone who rides in the area)? I live in Salisbury off of Lehigh Ave (I think within a mile of the trail). I work during the day, so I would be down for an evening/night ride (I have a light) or a day ride Saturday, but it might be HOT.

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    This is the second year for the race, and I missed the first year, so can't comment on segment lengths.

    I can see if I can get out one night this week, not sure, but in the meantime, if you are on Facebook look up the East Coast Super D group, there are a few people this week trying to get out to pre run it.

    Welcome to the area by the way! Where did you move from? We have a ton of good riding 10-30 minutes from your house, and actually extremely varied terrain. Bikevmb.com is a good resource but annoyingly you can't use the forums unless you are a member. But if you have any questions about good places to ride, let me know!
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    Steel City Enduro- anyone else going?

    I think you might be able to view maps and sign up for rides even if you're not a VMB member. I don't see anything about a pre-ride posted on the calendar or forums.


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    Very possibly going. Depends on a few things that are as-yet outside my control, but I want to.

    And I've never ridden there, so racing Blind is pure entertainment!

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    Quote Originally Posted by koval79 View Post
    I think you might be able to view maps and sign up for rides even if you're not a VMB member. I don't see anything about a pre-ride posted on the calendar or forums.


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    Oh for sure, he can get maps, calendar, etc, but he can't really post up to ask for riding buddies. "Free VMB" and all that.

    I remember seeing a few guys on East Coast Super D on FB wanting to pre-ride it, but this week's VMB ride is at SMB so that doesn't help much
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    Steel City Enduro- anyone else going?

    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    Oh for sure, he can get maps, calendar, etc, but he can't really post up to ask for riding buddies. "Free VMB" and all that.
    Just pointing out that people can watch for a pre ride on the calendar. I'm on the fence about freeing VMB but having the forums open might help to boost interest in the enduro race. We rode sals last Wednesday. I will say that it's not exactly backcountry and is marked/mapped well. So no one should be hesitant to pre-ride it on their own.


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    Quote Originally Posted by XJaredX View Post
    This is the second year for the race, and I missed the first year, so can't comment on segment lengths.

    I can see if I can get out one night this week, not sure, but in the meantime, if you are on Facebook look up the East Coast Super D group, there are a few people this week trying to get out to pre run it.

    Welcome to the area by the way! Where did you move from? We have a ton of good riding 10-30 minutes from your house, and actually extremely varied terrain. Bikevmb.com is a good resource but annoyingly you can't use the forums unless you are a member. But if you have any questions about good places to ride, let me know!
    Thanks for the info.

    I just moved up from Florida. I raced downhill, slalom and 4x in college, so I got a taste of some decent trails. I imagine I am in for a treat once I pull out the bike and hit the trails around here...

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    For sure. I almost always ride Sunday mornings with my friend, I live sorta near you, so hit me up and we can show you around.

    I'm probably not riding this week until the enduro, I sprained some sort of muscle in my back at SMB on Sunday, I did something dumb that resulted in me OTB and landing the side of my ribs on the end of my bars lol.

    Tomorrow night, if your bike is together, you can meet up for the VMB Wed night group ride, if you want directions to the parking lot PM me. SMB is similar to Sals but with more elevation change. Fun place.
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    Here's a video of last years event at Sals, Endurorama.


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    How technical are the trails? Should I ride my Enduro SL (150mm rear/160mm front) or my Anthem (older 26' 80mm front and rear). I am much quicker on climbs on the anthem, but faster at descents and through rock gardens on the enduro.

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    C'mon...the bike is named 'Enduro'; you have to ride that

    Not sure how well the Specialized pedals. There is (from what I hear based on last year) one timed section with some climbing. Otherwise, I would definitely say go with the Enduro SL.

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    I wish I was going. My best friend is having his engagement party on Sunday and it's in East Jersey.

    Guess I better start training for next year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman View Post
    Guess I better start training for next year.
    training? who said anything about *training*?

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    A real friend would understand...

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    "See... the problem here is that... my little brother, this morning, got his arm caught in the microwave, and uh... my grandmother dropped acid and she freaked out, and hijacked a school bus full of... penguins, so it's kind of a family crisis..."
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    Myself and several friends are attending! did very well on my first Enduro at Platty and am now smitten!

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    I suspect you'll be smitten with the Grumpy's BBQ too- it's a local favorite. Good stuff! I am almost as excited for that as for the actual enduro lol
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    I'm pretty sure I have enough of the Race the Rocks loop done so I think I will be able to make this race. I wanted to get to last years so I'm pretty excited. This one should be fun.

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    VMB did a great job.
    I had a blast despite 2 flat tires, it being hot as balls, and blowing past the last time checkpoint.
    I hear they may do another one in the fall. And next year do a series.
    Fingers crossed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    I had a blast despite 2 flat tires, it being hot as balls, and blowing past the last time checkpoint.
    You forgot the 2" of rain the night before. I had an awesome time too, I'll definitely be back.

    To me, this race is a great example of a flawed-but-awesome east coast enduro. It probably has too much climbing for enduro, but that's dictated by the trails there (versus, for example, the Bear Creek super D nationals course, which was way too XC for no good reason). They did their best with what they have to work with, and tons of us are glad they did.

    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    VMB did a great job.
    Completely agree.

    A couple of comments, meant as constructive suggestions not complaints:

    -- still too many racers missing the ends of stages. Gotta figure out something better. If timing chips aren't feasible, and a volunteer at the end of each stage isn't either, then more taping (maybe a cattlechute of tape instead of candystriping one tree) or chalking the trail or something.

    -- not a big deal to me, but 70 people in a big open class, with no cats or age groups, isn't ideal. Most people want to know how they did vs. similar riders, which you can't do when everyone's lumped together.

    None of that changes the fact that VMB organizers and volunteers put on a fun, hard, well-organized race.

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    Yes - I said something to the organizers about the stage ends. I was fixing a flat at the end of stage 4, and at least 6 people blew past it and had to be told to go back, it was about a third to half of the riders that came through in that time.

    For the timed stages, I didn't think there was much climbing, except for the fourth one, and it wasn't bad (the transfer between 2 and 3, on the other hand...).

    They would need 5 additional volunteers, or 4 if they ended the last stage in the lot area.

    And RE: Bear Creek, yes, it is disappointing that the SuperD is that very XC. Didn't do it, but I have ridden their. The rocky trails on the other side would have been a much better course.

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    I think the flags at the end of the stages just need to go across the trail, and have some ribbon hanging down directly in the line of sight of the rider. Taping on trees at the side of the trail didn't work so well... Especially if you don't know the trail system and can not anticipate a possible ending...

    80% of the people i talked blew by at least one end point. I blew past 2.

    The chips are fine as a timing system. I thought the race was well run overall.

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    Steel City Enduro- anyone else going?

    Agree on the better stage end marking. Some orange or other bright color on the trail would go a long way. I missed the stage 4 exit and kept going for a long way. I'll be back next year and this fall if they hold it again this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reformed roadie View Post
    I was fixing a flat at the end of stage 4, and at least 6 people blew past it and had to be told to go back, it was about a third to half of the riders that came through in that time.
    Including me. Funny.

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    Probably reviving this thread from the dead but I'm interested in entering this race next year. How was the format set up for this race?

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