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    Ski Denton this weekend

    Anyone going to Ski Denton this weekend?

    I've never been there and trying to decide between there or Snowshoe for the holiday weekend. Anyone been there and can tell me what it's like?
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    Never been there, but I too wonder what the trails are like. I was thinking of trying the sprint mtn bike race or whatever they are calling it. It might be fun if its an XC course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by david101372
    Anyone going to Ski Denton this weekend?

    I've never been there and trying to decide between there or Snowshoe for the holiday weekend. Anyone been there and can tell me what it's like?
    I'm heading up there with my wife for riding on Saturday and Sunday. I was there once last year and really enjoyed it. I may do the beginner DH race on Sunday as long as the course isn't too advanced for me. I'd definitely consider myself a novice mountain biker in general, and a beginner DH rider, and there were plenty of trails for me to ride. There are quite a few black diamond trails that were pretty steep and sketchy, if that's your thing. There were also XC trails at the top of the mountain, but I didn't ride too many of them, only ones that led to the DH trails. The mountain is in a state park so I'm sure there is a network of trails that are ridable.

    I'd venture a guess that Snowshoe is a bit more developed for DH/FR, just because they've had MTBing longer. From pics and vids I've seen Snowshoe has more man-made obstacles. Although, apparently Denton has been making improvements so I don't know what they have in store for this season.

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    Kona rep just gave us confirmation on attending! That's reps from Jamis and Kona now...and Allegany Outdoors and Country Ski & Sport for vendor tents. Trails are shaping up nice and dried out great...spending some time this week with the equipment working on dirt features...birm and bank turns, and some table-top type stuff. See you all this weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by denton
    Kona rep just gave us confirmation on attending! That's reps from Jamis and Kona now...and Allegany Outdoors and Country Ski & Sport for vendor tents. Trails are shaping up nice and dried out great...spending some time this week with the equipment working on dirt features...birm and bank turns, and some table-top type stuff. See you all this weekend!
    That sounds awesome. I'm really looking forward to riding this weekend. By any chance, will there be demos/rentals available from any of these vendors? My wife rides a XC hardtail and I'd love to put her on a full-suspension for a bit.

    Also, would it be possible for you to give some info on the beginner DH course? Specifically, what trails does it use, what drops and other features are there, etc. I'd appreciate any input you can provide. I'd really like to do the race, it's sound like it would be fun, but I don't want to get over my head in terrain that's beyond my abilities. See you this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCinSC
    That sounds awesome. I'm really looking forward to riding this weekend. By any chance, will there be demos/rentals available from any of these vendors? My wife rides a XC hardtail and I'd love to put her on a full-suspension for a bit.

    Also, would it be possible for you to give some info on the beginner DH course? Specifically, what trails does it use, what drops and other features are there, etc. I'd appreciate any input you can provide. I'd really like to do the race, it's sound like it would be fun, but I don't want to get over my head in terrain that's beyond my abilities. See you this weekend.
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    yes to both...demos and rentals - i think sales too!! The beginner course will focus mostly on the open ski slope areas for the top half...hits the single track in the woods beside the lift for the bottom half...should be pretty tame. See you there!

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    Where exactly is ski Denton in relation do Philly? How long of a drive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by denton
    yes to both...demos and rentals - i think sales too!! The beginner course will focus mostly on the open ski slope areas for the top half...hits the single track in the woods beside the lift for the bottom half...should be pretty tame. See you there!
    Thanks for the response. Good news about the bikes, I'm looking forward to checking out what they've got. The beginner course sounds good, I think I rode most of the lower mountain singltrack last year so I should be in good shape. Thanks again for the info, we'll see you this weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinny A
    Where exactly is ski Denton in relation do Philly? How long of a drive?
    Denton is in Coudersport, which unfortunately is not very close to Philly. Mapquest is giving a distance of 273 miles and 4 hours & 49 minutes travel time. It's kind of in the middle of nowhere...or God's country, as they say. I live in State College and Coudersport is basically directly north as the crow flies, but since there is no direct route it still takes 2+ hours to get there. It's worth it though, Denton is still the only hill in Central PA (maybe all of PA?) that runs a lift for MTBing.

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    Hey Denton....any pictures??

    Do you have and can you post some pictures of any features, stunts, jumps, berms you have been working on or added?

    I plan on coming up Saturday and /or Sunday and ridng both some XC and FR/DH.

    I'm probably bringing up my 12yr old son, is it possible to ride to the top on a low grade trail? If some walking is required that's fine I just didn't want him to have to walk all the way up. Thanks
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    Hey Denton.... any pictures??

    Quote Originally Posted by denton
    yes to both...demos and rentals - i think sales too!! The beginner course will focus mostly on the open ski slope areas for the top half...hits the single track in the woods beside the lift for the bottom half...should be pretty tame. See you there!


    Do you have and can you post some pictures of any features, stunts, jumps, berms you have been working on or added?

    I plan on coming up Saturday and /or Sunday and ridng both some XC and FR/DH.

    I'm probably bringing up my 12yr old son, is it possible to ride to the top on a low grade trail? If some walking is required that's fine I just didn't want him to have to walk all the way up. Thanks
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    No need to reply big D

    I was up today and had a good time. Hope to get back up Sunday and ride some more with my son.

    I have to say I liked what I rode and the trails look very promissing for future development.
    I like the mix of trails from smooth flowing to get behind you seat or else.

    I will definatly be making the trip up with a bunch of my riding buddies later this summer.

    Other than the 1 1/2 hour trip with today gas prices, it's well worth $15. for 4 hrs of fun.
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    Had a good time as well. It was fun doing a couple of runs with someone who was better/faster than me (as opposed to me going slow so my wife could keep up). Thanks for putting up with my "slowness".

    I'm sorry I missed you for another go-round. I was fooling around at the terrain park (the "big" drop was pretty fun) for 10-15 minutes to see if you were gonna pop out at the bottom by the lift. The clouds started moving in so I hopped on the lift for one last run. No sooner had I sat down when the thunder started...so I ended up being the last run of the day.

    I definitely will be back again, hopefully sooner this summer rather than later. Keep us posted if you and the boys are taking a trip up there, and I'll do the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by spacoli
    I was up today and had a good time. Hope to get back up Sunday and ride some more with my son.

    I have to say I liked what I rode and the trails look very promissing for future development.
    I like the mix of trails from smooth flowing to get behind you seat or else.

    I will definatly be making the trip up with a bunch of my riding buddies later this summer.

    Other than the 1 1/2 hour trip with today gas prices, it's well worth $15. for 4 hrs of fun.

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    me and a friend were going to go up today and stay in a hotel then ride tomorrow but i think we are just gonna leave at about 8 tomorrow morning. we are like 2 and a half hours away according to mapquest but i think we can make it in 2 or less. i was planning on doing the beginner DH race but i dont know if we are gonna get there in time for me to look at the course first. dont really want to jump right in there since im still relatively new to all this and ive got a hardtail.

    im pretty excited to get up there. maybe ill see some of you guys

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    so who all was there? i got there around a quarter til 12. i waanted to get in the race but we got lost so much it took us an extra hour to get there. it was a blast though.

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    Is ski denton the closet place of this type to the Philadelphia area? I would love to give it a go but would prefer to shorten the drive. I gave it a search on Google but came up with nothing. I was told a while back that there is a service in or near Jim Thorpe that operated a shuttle of some sort but being as lazy as I am I haven't researched it yet. Any knowledge would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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    Ladies,

    How about some pictures?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PCinSC
    Had a good time as well. It was fun doing a couple of runs with someone who was better/faster than me (as opposed to me going slow so my wife could keep up). Thanks for putting up with my "slowness".

    I'm sorry I missed you for another go-round. I was fooling around at the terrain park (the "big" drop was pretty fun) for 10-15 minutes to see if you were gonna pop out at the bottom by the lift. The clouds started moving in so I hopped on the lift for one last run. No sooner had I sat down when the thunder started...so I ended up being the last run of the day.

    I definitely will be back again, hopefully sooner this summer rather than later. Keep us posted if you and the boys are taking a trip up there, and I'll do the same.
    I just missed you. As I got to the lift there was one person getting on and just as i was to get on someone came up and said no more people on the lift because of the thunder.

    My son and I went back up today and had a great time, the weather was great. He wanted to ride the Gemini and I rode my Heckler. He did great for the first time on the bike, it's a little too big for him but he wanted to ride it. He went down one time pretty good on the trail that runs right next to the lift on the left if your looking down at the trail while riding up the lift.

    Here is a picture of him coming down the center right under the lift, he was just coming up that bank after that little berm. I was pretty impressed how he handled the bike.

    I didn't get to let it all hang out on the Heckler being that it's set up for more trail riding, I still had fun.

    I beleive I'm going to plan fathers day the next trip up with my son.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
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    How about some pictures?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spacoli
    My son and I went back up today and had a great time, the weather was great. He wanted to ride the Gemini and I rode my Heckler. He did great for the first time on the bike, it's a little too big for him but he wanted to ride it. He went down one time pretty good on the trail that runs right next to the lift on the left if your looking down at the trail while riding up the lift.

    Here is a picture of him coming down the center right under the lift, he was just coming up that bank after that little berm. I was pretty impressed how he handled the bike.

    I didn't get to let it all hang out on the Heckler being that it's set up for more trail riding, I still had fun.

    I beleive I'm going to plan fathers day the next trip up with my son.
    Nice, it looks like he took right to the downhilling thing. Your gonna have to pick him up a DH bike of his own.

    That's a great pic, it really captures the grade of the terrain there, although it wasn't super steep (but steep enough for me to be white knuckled). I really got a kick out of those two little kids that were doing trail work as we came down that trail. As I passed them by they said, "we're just trying to make the trail better to ride." That was awesome.

    I'm glad you guys had fun. Nate and I will be at Diablo on Father's Day weekend, but maybe we will hook up a trip later in the summer.

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    You guys should join us on another trip to Prompton. Right up yours and Be's alley, I think.

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    i only took one pic because i was mainly concerned with riding and it was of the beginning of the trail the one vendor dude(one from ny) was working on. we took a few short vids of it too but nothing good. the trail was really technical as it wasnt done yet but the top part was amazing with all the ladder bridges.

    i saw you spacoli, you your son and another dude. he looked pretty good for how old you said he was. wish i had to the guts when i was twelve to do some of those trails. i was the kid with the olive shirt riding a specialized hardrock. its blue and my friend had a grey cannondale. he had on a sleaveless red shirt.

    i think we are going to be going up there again soon. its a great place.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BHertz
    i only took one pic because i was mainly concerned with riding and it was of the beginning of the trail the one vendor dude(one from ny) was working on. we took a few short vids of it too but nothing good. the trail was really technical as it wasnt done yet but the top part was amazing with all the ladder bridges.
    Hey B, what trail was that? There was a ton of trails that I didn't get to ride and that was definitely one of them. Do you know what # it was? What other North Shore type stuff did it have?

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    it wasnt numbered and it was sort of blocked off. it wasnt done.. just the top half was crudely done it still needed work but it was still great. i cant wait til its all done. however... you know just as you get off the lift there is a road straight ahead. well it was the very first back that road.. only about 30-40 yards back it.

    umm it just had a few ladder bridges. i talked to the guy who was working on it and he said it wasnt even close to done yet but he wanted us to check it out for what hes got there now. hes going to be putting in more north shore style stuff in and hopes it will be done by the end of summer.
    it had a lot of switchbacks as well and some pretty neat rock gardens. im uploading some short vids right now. they arent anything special but it shows what he has there now. ill post them in a minute.

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    first one is my friend at the top of the trail and the second one is me on the second bridge.

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    the seesaws were a blast too.... lol

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    and in reply to the guy wondering about philly. its a pretty long haul from here... we left this morning at 8 from state and it took up 3 hours to get there because we got lost SOOO many times.

    however if i knew what this place was like and i lived in philly i would probably drive up for a weekend. its a sweet place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHertz
    i only took one pic because i was mainly concerned with riding and it was of the beginning of the trail the one vendor dude(one from ny) was working on. we took a few short vids of it too but nothing good. the trail was really technical as it wasnt done yet but the top part was amazing with all the ladder bridges.

    i saw you spacoli, you your son and another dude. he looked pretty good for how old you said he was. wish i had to the guts when i was twelve to do some of those trails. i was the kid with the olive shirt riding a specialized hardrock. its blue and my friend had a grey cannondale. he had on a sleaveless red shirt.

    i think we are going to be going up there again soon. its a great place.

    Hey B sorry I missed you or don't remember seeing you, maybe next time.

    We did that trail down the center around 4 times. He cleaned it 3 out of 4 times. He washed out (2nd run) at that little berm before you shoot up the bank on his second run. That makeshift bern was sketchy, and I was very surprised he cleaned it the first time.

    I was schooling him all day long on how to brake and flow through the rough and sketchy sections.

    It was a pretty special day for me, as I have not seen him in over two months and I know he has not ridden his bike on the trails since last year.
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    very cool. me and my friend are either going to diablo or snowshoe this weekend. ill have to see whats on the agenda in a few weeks. maybe we will make it up fathers day weekend.

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    From the image gallery on the home page I see a lot of larger FR/DH bikes...how would a XC hardtail fair at Denton? Are the trails rated by difficulty? Overall the place looks like a blast...just want to make sure before I make the drive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000cx
    From the image gallery on the home page I see a lot of larger FR/DH bikes...how would a XC hardtail fair at Denton? Are the trails rated by difficulty? Overall the place looks like a blast...just want to make sure before I make the drive.
    I rode my 2005 specialized hardrock. while i would have done much better on an fs bike i still had a good time and got through the trails alright. also i would not even begin to call myself a great rider. im still learning.

    also no i do not believe they rate them by difficulty. or actually they might. i noticed that the diamond shaped signs that said what number the trails were were red and blue. i dont know if that means anything or not. maybe some one can help you out on this one.

    but yeah over all this place rocks.

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    Yes...Trails are marked wth yellow circles for easiest, blue squares for moderate, red diamonds for difficult, double red diamonds for most difficult. Also, all the trail heads are numbered on the placards according to the numbers on the trail map. We're always marking more and and making sure the numbers are legible. There are all levels of trails from the top of the mountain...even "soccer moms" with 7 and 8 year olds have made some of ther loops and had a great time!

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    Whats new at SkiDenton? We are headed up for this weekend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropthehammer
    Whats new at SkiDenton? We are headed up for this weekend...
    Not sure what's new. I don't know what it was like last year, since this year was my first. I have been up there three times and hope to get up there again soon. I guess all the jumps and berms are new and I'm sure some of the trails are.

    I don't know what type of stuff you are used to riding, but I like what I see and it sure has potential to be allot better with some work.

    There are some fast double/triple wide trails,some short single track cutting through the tree lines, rocky steep stuff, one long single track (trail 25) that is really fun. I have seen a drop or two, two tabletop jumps, along with all the little jumps one the singletrack trails in the treelines.

    There are some teeters,some small wooden jumps and drops.

    It's definatly a fun time you don't need a DH or FR bike to have fun up there, but it would sure be more fun if you did.

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    i plan on getting back up in a few weeks. just got a new bike and a new truck so i need an excuse to test them both out ;-)

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    We are XC hardtail riders, never tried 'real' DH or FR. Intend to feel it out this weekend.... Not sure what the shop has to offer there, but the plan is to rent a couple of DH/FR bikes for a few hours if they can accomodate us. Otherwise we will explore on the XCs. Looks like alot of fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHertz
    i plan on getting back up in a few weeks. just got a new bike and a new truck so i need an excuse to test them both out ;-)

    That's cool, what new ride did you get. We are going to get a group around sometime and go up. I'm hoping to get up without my son so I can ride my Gemini, if not I still have fun on the Heckler. I just bought a 60mm DH stem and DH bars for the Heckler instead of my 100mm stem and carbon bars. It should make a big difference in getting the front end up and being more stable on the DH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dropthehammer
    We are XC hardtail riders, never tried 'real' DH or FR. Intend to feel it out this weekend.... Not sure what the shop has to offer there, but the plan is to rent a couple of DH/FR bikes for a few hours if they can accomodate us. Otherwise we will explore on the XCs. Looks like alot of fun.
    I'm sorry to say there is no shop there to rent from. You will still have fun on the singletracks through the trees. I'm sure there is more XC trails, but I'm not sure. If I were you come up for a half day (4hrs, $15.) use the lift for some runs and then the last lift ride of the day stay up top and do some XC on top and check out the trails.
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    gentlemen, i must take this time as i feel obligated to do and suggest you all look seriously at finding another location for "real" DH and or FR.

    i highly recommend trying diablo freeride park. you can rent legitimate bikes for the terrain there, and i must admit it is an incredible facility.

    i'm not suggesting that denton is not fun, i certainly didn't hate myself far making the tirp up. however, i am saying that denton is trying to gather support for their biking program and as such is trying to gather rider input. the only thing is that most riders have not been anywhere else to see it done well. denton could well be a fabulous place to go and ride, but in order to be a viable option they need input or preferably experience of someplace that has already succeeded.

    by all means, i encourage you to go to denton, but i also encourage you to go to diablo, or plattekill or snowshoe even more so. see where denton is at, see where they want to go and do your part to help them get there.

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    i appreciate your suggestion but my context for 'real' is coming from an all XC rider whos never been on anything even intended as DH/FR. I think Denton will provide the perfect venue for our introduction if for no other reason, it shouldn't be crowded and we won't be in anybody's way! As far as FR, i only intend to be a spectator!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dropthehammer
    i appreciate your suggestion but my context for 'real' is coming from an all XC rider whos never been on anything even intended as DH/FR. I think Denton will provide the perfect venue for our introduction if for no other reason, it shouldn't be crowded and we won't be in anybody's way! As far as FR, i only intend to be a spectator!
    It's perfect for a beginner, I'm not saying you are a beginner, you know what I mean, you will have fun. It won't be crowded as you stated.

    Don, I think we would all love to go to those FR parks, when the time comes I will.
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    jeff,

    no doubt you all will. my point here is not to take the mindset of seeing what "real" DH or FR is by visiting denton. it's a good time, and certainly beats the cost of the trips elsewhere. but i had gathered from talking to scott that he had visions to take it to the next level so to speak and that is something we can help him with, but only if we know what that level is as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spacoli
    That's cool, what new ride did you get. We are going to get a group around sometime and go up. I'm hoping to get up without my son so I can ride my Gemini, if not I still have fun on the Heckler. I just bought a 60mm DH stem and DH bars for the Heckler instead of my 100mm stem and carbon bars. It should make a big difference in getting the front end up and being more stable on the DH.
    Found a brand new 2005 Specialized Enduro on eBay for cheap. it was old stock in a shop. I'm pretty satisfied. its no DH bike but downhill/freeride isn't my normal cup of tea. Oh and if you were asking about the truck. Its an 01 Nissan Frontier.

    Denton is a great place to get the feel for what downhilling is like. i agree its not as real as it gets but it sure can be a good time. if you normally ride XC and wonder what its like to ride other styles Denton is a good place to go if you are worried about getting in over your head because you wont really do it up there. also its ridable on a true xc bike. however i agree with bighitdon that if really want to see what its all about hit up another location.

    oh and by the way. bighitdon, you work a the bicycle shop right? i was the kid in there today talking to craig i think his name is. the one who was there when the guy came in from north Carolina.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHertz
    Found a brand new 2005 Specialized Enduro on eBay for cheap. it was old stock in a shop. I'm pretty satisfied. its no DH bike but downhill/freeride isn't my normal cup of tea. Oh and if you were asking about the truck. Its an 01 Nissan Frontier.
    Nice, good bike choice and I'm sure the truck is nice too. 93 Toyota here, I always make sure my bike is worth more than my truck.
    I can fix it............... my dad has an awesome set of tools

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHertz
    Found a brand new 2005 Specialized Enduro on eBay for cheap. it was old stock in a shop. I'm pretty satisfied. its no DH bike but downhill/freeride isn't my normal cup of tea.
    05 had both frame styles of enduro. is yours the 5 inch or the 6 inch? i always swore that the 5 inch would be about the perfect xc bike for rothrock.

    Quote Originally Posted by BHertz
    oh and by the way. bighitdon, you work a the bicycle shop right? i was the kid in there today talking to craig i think his name is. the one who was there when the guy came in from north Carolina.
    yup, that's me. that guy from NC was all about his riding back home, i almost wanted to send him to the rockiest place ever and tell him it was all groomed and buffed. but alas, the nice guy in me won out. i've always found it crazy that people can stand mt biking without rocks. i'd be so bleeding bored!

    do you ever hit up the friday evening rides out in coopers gap? i havne't made one anytime recently, but i'd like that to change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighitdon
    yup, that's me. that guy from NC was all about his riding back home, i almost wanted to send him to the rockiest place ever and tell him it was all groomed and buffed. but alas, the nice guy in me won out. i've always found it crazy that people can stand mt biking without rocks. i'd be so bleeding bored!
    yeah haha. rocks arent even bad. but i guess if you're used to smooth trails then it could get annoying. by the way i sent you a pm.

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