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    A question about registration. Is it beginner racer or beginner rider?
    Although I have ridden for a long time (definetly no expert) this would be mt first race.

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    PHeller,

    There are a bunch of issues that eliminate motocross or harescramble from happening at our place. We have very little open land to provide a start area, we have almost no level land to provide parking for the big rigs that come to our other events and we couldnít even come close to handling the parking. The only open land we do have is bordered by to many neighbors to put that much activity in such a small place. A bunch of us are very seasoned at promoting moto events and our place isnít well suited. Being a land use guy Iím sure you understand that not all locations are good for every activity.

    Scott

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    bilbo56,

    You have already ridden most of what will be the race course. Everyone will be running the same loop, the only difference will be beginners will do 1 lap, sport will do 2 laps and experts will do 3 laps. I anticipate some pretty fast and strong guys in the expert class but if you want to do 3 laps, I'll keep scoring open till Sunday if you want to take that long to finish, I promise. Hell, I'll even hop in my bike and ride the last lap with you if scoring is all settled down and my wife and daughters want to do awards. Iíll bring dinner out to you on the trail with fresh water too.

    A bunch of years ago one of the other owners and I did our first mountain bike race at Bear Creek. We figured we werenít fast but we might as well run the expert class since 27 miles seemed like a great ride even if we were going to come in last. I only did two laps but Ed did all three and they had scoring packed up and were doing the awards as Ed came pedaling up the hill to finish his third and last lap. Everyone just stopped, no one said anything everyone just stopped and went outside and lined the last 50 feet of the loop and cheered him over the finish line. I have raced at all kinds of thing all of my life and will continue to do so till I leave this planet. I have no idea where I finished or what races Iíve done for the most part but I will always remember that race. Ed won that race without question.

    Iím pretty sure that at our age the race for me isnít really with everyone at the event at least in mountain biking, dirt bikes are a bit different. If however you really want shoot for the highest finishing spot in a class that offers level competition, you will need to run your first race to see what a real race pace is like and where you stand. Wow, that was a long non-answer.

    Iíll give the short answer that I give every first time harescrambler. Think of the first race you do as a trail ride with a few hundred of your closest friends. Get a last place start and run a pace that you know will let you finish. These kinds of races can be long and you will pass pretty much everyone you would have with a first place start. Race your first race to finish because you canít finish first if you donít make it to the end. Ed may have finished last that day a bunch of years ago but he finished and beat me like a drum. Three laps beats two every time

    Besides I can change anyoneís class the day of the race if they wish.

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    velojan,

    Thanks and your help is very much appreciated.

    Beardman27,

    Thanks, you are good people. We are always building something and more hands makes for more fun stuff to play on.

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    Thanks for all your support guys...

    ...we greatly appreciate it, we always wanted a fun event in the area that we can all gather, race, and share friendships.

    Bill,

    Hit up a pre-ride if you can as we will have them in the future.

    On your opportunity to race, first no undue pressure on yourself. Have everything ready before hand. sign up ride around to warm up. Maybe a couple jaunts up the uphill to get it all flowing. Show up early for the start, listen to the promoters instructions, find your spot.

    That's when the fun begins. Pace yourself in the beginning, concentrate on picking good lines. Walk or run areas you don't feel comfortable attacking, no harm in walking, sometimes it's actually faster. Crashing burns up too much time and harm. If you encounter a slower rider give them a "On your left" and pass clean. Watch the course directions.

    Remember you are here for fun!

    I have no doubt you will do good!
    I wish you the best!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr500 View Post
    PHeller,
    A bunch of us are very seasoned at promoting moto events and our place isnít well suited. Being a land use guy Iím sure you understand that not all locations are good for every activity.
    Scott
    Thanks Scott. I was just curious, and figured that you guys were making a wise decision. Wish younger riders would understand the idea of "appropriate venues" instead of ripping up someone else's land.
    I do custom ArcGIS and Google Maps, including data collection and sustainable trail layout. Ride Welsh Mountain

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    I use to be able to ride a dirt bike in the valley for 5 or 6 hours and never even think of being board or having to head up the mountains as little as 10 years ago. Now you have to shoot from place to place and head right up the mountain with all the land being closed up. It is a shame that the world is changing but it's where we are at. It's so much easier to talk with people if we haven't pissed them off before we need to talk about riding areas. A loud exaust is so hard to get past when talking to people living in an area where people ride followed by trash. I was a huge ass when I was a kid so I can't throw any stones from my glass house.

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    Scott, cant wait for this. I plan on racing but I will also help you guys get ready (trail maintenance, marking the course off or anything else needed to be done as we get closer). I'll also do my best to get others I know that ride to get them to sign up and race....you have been kind enough to let me ride at your land more times than I can remember so helping you guys get ready is the least I can do....

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    "Race" da Rocks at Hunlocks 2013

    Just curious... Why are the expert men doing only 2 laps and expert women and expert SS 3 laps? Typo on bikereg I assume?

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    Typo on my part, I'll fix it tonight. Thanks for the heads up.

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    Both expert classes have been fixed

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    Smile

    Scott and I added trail up on top of the mountain, it's a combo of smooth Moto trail with a few neat rock outcrops, and green friendly trail with lots of room to pass and flow. Can't wait for the weather to break to have a preride with all of ya! Scott Olex is doing a great job!...LOL
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    I also really appreciate everyone's effort on this, looking forward to more riding and racing apparently at HCGA. ;^)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cr500 View Post
    PHeller,

    There are a bunch of issues that eliminate motocross or harescramble from happening at our place. We have very little open land to provide a start area, we have almost no level land to provide parking for the big rigs that come to our other events and we couldnít even come close to handling the parking. The only open land we do have is bordered by to many neighbors to put that much activity in such a small place. A bunch of us are very seasoned at promoting moto events and our place isnít well suited. Being a land use guy Iím sure you understand that not all locations are good for every activity.

    Scott
    Well then, I guess an Oldtimers Grand Prix race with the likes of Decoster, Hannah and JR is out of the question.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Chuck View Post
    Well then, I guess an Oldtimers Grand Prix race with the likes of Decoster, Hannah and JR is out of the question.
    I can not believe you left out DAVENPORT

    Even if he is dead. I'm purchasing him a ticket. He might show up!

    Elvis is not invited!

    JR?...LOL

    PS, the old timer race is the next day, only we use Moto Trials bikes You know Old and Slow over the Rocks is the way we go!

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    The original Powerhouse, Robert became an instant hero once he got off the Chay-Zed and joined Team Suzuki, funny thing is Brad Lackey told me the CZ factory still exists and they make motorcycle chains now."Race" da Rocks at Hunlocks 2013-robert-decoster-rahier-1972.jpg

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    Lackey is still mad at me because I wouldn't give him my autograph.

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    I don't know about that, but he is still one fast dude!

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    Added the race flyer...
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    i think it's really great that you guys are doing this; can't wait. printed out some flyers to pass along

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    Whats HCGA? If this is where I'm figgerin- there No Trep posters are signed Hunlocks Grove Association. Can this place be leased out?

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    HCGA= Hairy Crazy Guys on Acid

    Hunlock Creek Grove Assoc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadrider View Post
    i think it's really great that you guys are doing this; can't wait. printed out some flyers to pass along
    Thanks Red, say hey to Super Bob!

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    Red,

    Thanks a ton, and I look forward to seeing you and Rob out this season. We have open rides and we'll have pre-rides so there will be a ton of opportunities. Maybe we can get you out on that KTM. Please put the flyers everywhere you can and we appreciate the help.

    This makes me remember Rich's contest from last year for the Coal Cracker Classic. He had a photo contest on their Facebook group for photos posting flyers at local businesses. With that in mind we'll do a similar contest. Whoever posts the most photos of themselves hanging our flyer in local businesses will get a free race shirt. We are still working on the race shirts but if they end up being what I think, you won't be disappointed. They should be modern wicking material with sub-laminated graphics. They should be real nice...

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