NEPMTBA/HCGA trail construction and MTBW plans
More MTB trails in the Wyoming Valley area to ride in the process of being constructed by NEPMTBA on the HCGA (Hunlock Creek Grove Associates) private property.
Just a little disclaimer first. "THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY" Sorry for the blast, but it is to protect everyone involved. The property is gated and patrolled :arf:
The plan is to have a camping MTB weekend sometime this September, so everyone can check it out! This property is less than one half mile from the fabulous 30 miles of mOOn Lake trails, and I already have permission from the great folks at the mOOn(like they don't know me by now. LOL) and the HCGA to connect all of it together for 2 days of super fun and riding at both places for the 1st Annual HCGA/NEPMTBA MTBW. :thumbsup:
If you have already heard of this adventure, believe me we are not keeping this a secret! NEPMTBA is in the process of building: MTB trails, MTB endurocross, MTB Trials, and an all Wood MTB Pump Track! We have been building and riding the place to death in preparation of the MTBW in September! Trails are roughing in nicely. Five miles of trails are in place now, and this property is nothing like the mOOn. There are MOUNTAINS! Even more interesting are the ROCKS! Like our T-shirts say: "Ride the Rocks at Hunlocks" Or should it say: "Lee Likes ROCKS?" LOL :D
The property is owned by Moto riders (which many are buying MTB's as of lately. LOL) and contains many miles of Moto, Quad trails and old logging roads. As well as the constructed MTB trails, the "Green Moto Loop is very MTB friendly and interesting in it's own respect, No, it's not all ripped up, so don't jump to conclusions! We plan to use it for the MTBW as a kinder, gentler loop for riders who like that kinda stuff. Trails like "High Noon" "Hell Froze Over" and "Terminus Eldorado" are not kind "OR" gentle! Scott O. is making trail/name signs which are color coded as to show the applied trail is "MTB only" Nice job Scott The honorary trail #1 goes to "Fat Dog" (real dog) just don't try to hug him! He approved of his trail by, what else, but taking a dump on it! Ah! to be a Dog! We talked it over and "all" the land owners agree that only MTBs are allowed on the MTB trails! :)
I speak of the greatest thanks to the owners who have provided "every" opportunity to help with all aspects of this project, and totally know what it takes to join forces with others who ride, no matter what kind of vehicle :cornut:
STOP ME?????????? HA! HA! :smallviolin:
NEPMTBA's opportunity to work with many great people continues, add HCGA to the list!
Awesome news! I heard Lee has a shitter made of rock! Not to mention his slate bed with shale sheets!
...Lee...thanks very much for the update and new riding area.....can't wait to give it a try......hopefully the Mtn Bike weekend won't be the same date as the Rattling Creek Single Trackers BASH which is scheduled for Sept. 15th-18th....it is the last year for the BASH. Thanks again, Ride On!
Thanks for the update and the work you've been doing. I can't wait to check it out!!!!
Very cool Lee, my friens Dave M. said he met you over the weekend at the land where you were making trails and spent some time talking to you about the trails you were building, he said man he's really into it!:thumbsup:
NEPMTBA/HGCA trail construction and MTBW plans
Only been there once, that was before there were any mtb trails. Beautiful area! I can't wait to see what Lee and the guys have been up to! Make sure you bring your climbing legs!
Great work folks. Glad to see such a powerful organization.
Thanks guys for the support!
Last nights progress:;)
Different view of SOB (Scott O. Byway) LOL, Signage by Scott O. and the dog, the myth, the legend!(just don't hug him). Great old grow needed to be ridden through and a cleaning up dual purpose. Someone had a tree stand there from way back that is now laying all over the ground ruining this nice area. I can only imagine these trees were way closer together then and as they grew the tree stand just fell through. The property was clear cut back in the 80s and I am amazed these trees didn't see the ax.
Dirtrider: Dave is a great guy. I hope we can get him out on a ride sometime, as I did invite him to a mOOn ride.
I've been wondering why we have not seen you as much at the Moon. Now we know why. Looks like you have been busy. The mountain bike weekend sounds great. can't wait to ride the new trails.
Are the boardwalks over wet areas?
"Are the boardwalks over wet areas?"
Yes, it was a total worthless area till our hydro engineer shaped the water flow. The plan is to continue to shape the area till we have the runoff stream channeled through the boardwalk. We have yet to find a spring there, so I believe it is just runoff. What you see in the pics is the smoothest area. Prolly have it in lights sometime for night pump track. At the one end SOB continues as a dirt trail to the huge rocks as big as cars above. It is (pretty much unrideable, unless you can static and hop) MTB trail for now, but it will be on wood soon. It's really cool. Big molithic rocks are spread through the property. Makes ya feel really insugnificant as a human trying to ride a bike through them... LOL.
Lots of fun(work) ahead. ;)
"I've been wondering why we have not seen you as much at the Moon. Now we know why. Looks like you have been busy. The mountain bike weekend sounds great. can't wait to ride the new trails."
Well, actually I have been riding Moto trials on Wednesday nights for a week or two. I'm at the mOOn earlier on Wednesdays. Speaking of mOOn the big broken tree on Ledgeview will be gone tomorrow. Yaaaaaa...:thumbsup:
When "night falls" does it get hurt?
sounds great; can't wait to check it out one day
Replies and tonights progress...
"sounds great; can't wait to check it out one day"
Red: Yes, one of the only places I know of that you can ride Motos and MTB on separate designed trails! We have plans for an Ironman weekend in the future with, one day of Moto riding and the other day MTBs of course while not riding will include adult consumption of copious amounts of liquids and dining on savory foods... LOL
Pics 1 & 2 The tree stand is no more on the newest trail called "Itchy Tire" The place is really hard on tires hence they do get very itchy. So far 3 shredded MTB tires and one MTB tire completely blown off the rim. The squirrels must be sharpening rocks at night... LOL
Pics 3, 4, 5, 6 New line being constructed on SOB, narrower, tighter, wood and rocks!
Pic 7 Who says you can't put big rocks on top of the wood... LOL Thanks go to the "glacier" for delivering that big baby!
Where does the "White" go when the snow melts?
What are the plans for access once trails are ready for users? Will anyone be able to ride here? You did say it was privately owned, right?
That's up to the landowners. They are a great group and lots of ideas are being thrown around. I'm doing the webwork for them, so I will have the info on all future events and happenings at HCGA. I will be updating the NEPMTBA http://nepmtba.piczo.com website soon with all the info. My other purpose for being there besides MTB trails is to set-up and host an NATC national Moto Trial http://mototrial.us/ in the future. If you have never seen a moto trials in person it is amazing. A Mt. bike race is in the works too.
Originally Posted by ds33gt
One thing that helps is the location HCGA is close to mOOn trails, Mock trails, Penobscot Loop, Riverlands, Mt Top, CDH, and the Lackawanna State forest. All are already linked together somewhat. 100 miles of trails was my goal. It is a wonderful opportunity to get trails, so we all have lots to ride, but the people who have stepped up in our area are the absolute best. Sorry to ramble, but everyone has kept a giant support for mOOn and the Wednesday rides are always packed as well as the others mentioned. I'm sure HCGA will be added right in seamlessly.
Nice work Lee, I really appreciate all the work you do.
Originally Posted by rustybkr
... but I do have lots of help from everyone too. I think it's a great thing to meet and see everyone riding and having fun.
Great holiday weekend with lots more work done...
... as work progresses on the newest trail (Itchy Tire) is starting to look like a favorite trail. It has the making of many different types of terrain, starting with off camber nasty uphill rocks, followed by swoopy smooth downhill, to a logging area with a burned in moto trail, then "wood" over area, then a freek'in downhill grass field diving into a tight area covered in pine carpet, finishing up with a ride through the chicken coop(yes, literely) then rocky singletrack. Itchy Tire is the most important trail as it aligns the property to the access of more areas to be built in the future.
Pic 1: The "Toecutter"(you'll understand if you watched the original Mad Max movie) in the pines section of Itchy Tire.
Pic 2: Scott O. in the pines of Itchy TIre.
Pic 3 A little handwork with super potential(3 tabletops of wood over big stumps)..yee haa
Pic 4 (singing that stupid song) I'm too sexy for this bridge, this bridge, and my doggy. It's my doggie, as I do a little turn on the bridge(wait just don't try to hug FAt dOg... LMAO) I gotta get a vid of him as he has a new gimmick: He barks non stop at all of us to get us to watch him run into the pond and jump in and bite at the water. This dog is a riot!
The 4th at HCGA was...
... a hoot. Lots of activity, and Itchy Tire trail is almost complete with the hill climb section being last to be built. It will require lots of bench work as the trail transverses a slope that is quite steep! Lucky on two points. One it's mostly clay non organic and two, the trail passes one of the old logging roads and Shawn should be able to get "the machine" back there to rough in the area. Much easier than by hand with mattocks!!!! Once done it will allow a line that will put the rider out on the edge, yet able to stick to the slope enough to complete the section. Should be very interesting.
Itchy Tire pics:
Pic 1: The stump section before work.
Pic 2; The stump section complete minus wood.
Pic 3: More stump section
Pic 4: Scorpa trials moto was out for a spin. Nice bike!
Friday nights are special, seems the thunderstorms missed us tonight and lots got done at HCGA.
Itchy Tire has progressed quite a bit. The pics show the trail is now cleared and "wood" progress is next. This area was logged, and it is really cool how the ferns take over. They are great to look at or ride through, but weedwacking them lets their juices come out and man they are worse than poison ivy. Should of named the trail Itchy Ferns.. LOL
Too bad I took pics before, but it got dark, and I didn't get the final progress taken, so tomorrow I will have a very surprising update. The stumps are the clue. We now have a brandy new Stihl FS 90 wacker that takes all the heads. Look out now!
pics 1-5 are of progress on Itchy Tire
pic 6 is one of our 4 legged friends
pic 7 yes it will have a "skinny" on it too
What's the outlook on when this will be open for riding? Did we talk if this is open to public or invite only riding?
Come to the Mt bike weekend and ride it.
Originally Posted by ds33gt
...three of us loaded 3 truck fulls and delivered it to the land. So here's the pics I promised yesterday!
Itchy Tire trail will have a secession of 4 "woodys" each 40 feet apart that will make it a good rhythm section. At the end is the option "skinny" exiting the logged out area! Of course stuff still has to be trimmed and set in.
Next is the "bench work" on the cross hill sections!
Back to SOB...
...the newest line (Rocker) just about complete!
A line that is woody and rocky, only 12 inches wide, with a few turns and ups, along the way it rides part of the old rock wall that was there for more than 100 years! Entrance and exit are tricky!:eekster:
Ride the Rocks and the Woody at Hunlocks!
The adventures of Ruger and Fee-Fee...
...while building trails today I see a very funny thing. Ruger taking Fee-Fee for a stroll. It just struck me as a great site cause Ruger is a much older dog and he took it in stride as to his owner giving him responsible of protecting Fee-Fee from harm. Fee-Fee can hold his own and Ruger never flinched when other dogs came around! Jimmy said Fee-Fee is really a cat but dressed as a dog so Ruger doesn't "EAT HIM"... LOL
I know what does it have to do with trails well... The Itchy Tire trail connection with High Noon is complete and it contains more of the famous Hunlocks Rocks... weeeeeeeee
pics a more tomorrow!
Rocks, rocks, rocks, large, small, and most of all ROCKS!:yikes:
The day was about 3 things: Itchy Tire gets nicked, flicked, and our yellow jacket friends were relocated from the trail, "ROCKS" at High Noon, and our newest trail "DR"
First 3 pics of the Itchy Tire extension leading to High Noon is complete and even has it's own multi-line 3 rock section(I did mention we ride Rocks at Hunlocks didn't I?) The rest of Itchy Tire including the VW rock ride section is all done... weeeeeeeee (we might bench stuff later????)
...nah just ride it:cool:
pics 4-6 The real fun, working in the sweltering heat moving around rocks that weighed, o, say thousands of pounds:eekster:... it's all in the balance!:ihih:
High Noon finally gets the really BIG SCARY line that it deserves, and don't worry it's right at the beginning, so missing it means a tail between the legs ride down the service road to the parking lot... LOL... there "is" a "sneak line" for non landscapers! Lucky the rock we used had 2 separate top rocks that could be moved off each side to provide ramps for a super large table top slab. Straps, comealong, large iron pry bars(which by the way both got bent) and even tiedowns to nearby trees finally yielded the bass turds to move. They were last moved by the glacier 100,000 years ago, much easier then... LOL
pic 7 Fat Dog took a rest after chasing a Moto through a ditch and he almost blew out his front forks!... Good Dog(just don't hug him)
no pics yet of DR... connected to Terminus Eldorado is our newest trail DR, lots of climbing and a great Top o the Ridge rock play area with many lines and huge slab rocks some as big as cars. And that's not even the top of the mountain yet. Then DR takes a stroll to the Licktop Rock(a massive outcrop bigger than a house) Epic, epic, epic!
Funny how all the Moto guys keep telling my their tires wear out really quick at Hunlocks!
More later gotta go ride it all...
ps... Hey Tony check the one pic see anything?
Lee, ur blowin' me away!!! FANTASTIC!!
Originally Posted by fps
Jimmy and his orange shirt!
I think we need a trail called "your mom"
Yeah, "Your Mom" thats what she said.
I asked her and she said:
"No name it "YOUR DAD"
Do you realize your third post has "your mom" in it!
enough lets ride the mOOn already!:p
Amazing work as usual Lee!!! Itchin' to get out there dude. Looking like the neon orange t-shirt design I did for Jimbo is makin' it's way (albeit small) into some of your shots.
What can I design for you to get a trail named after me?? :ihih:
Keep up the good work !!!
You've already got the name for the next round of T-Shirts!
Originally Posted by kevinokev
"I Rode -Your Mom- on the Rocks at Hunlocks"
What's really long and really skinny?...
... Line Nine...
the newest line on the Woody. Prolly end up being a bit wider than 9 inches to encourage more to ride it, but we won't tell anyone will we? It's really good when you can use a fallen tree in 2 different directions and for two totally different line designs.
pic 5 Tony and Scott in the sweltering heat had the quad hooked up to straps to tune the Bikes of the Round Table rock at the intersection of High Noon and Itchy Tire. The top of this rock is so big and flat and you could park a car on it and still have room left for more.
This should put the thread over 1000 views...
... After the 1 hour torrential downpour everyone got to work...:madmax:
Working on "Line Nine" in the Woody. Line Nine will be the first line to leave the SOB Woody area and connect with the upper mototrials area, where it can be looped back if you like or continue on upper SOB... confused yet?... LOL Riding it will sort it all out, I'm just being articulate!
The 2 machines arrived Friday to expand the pavilion area. It will be really nice when the MTB Weekend rolls around. Lots of tree cutting, stump removal, shuffling of dirt, and all that sourced lots of firewood too for the MTBW. I was drooling at the super skinnys being cut up though. No fear as more remain, especially on Hell Froze Over for the 2 way teeter totter(one each direction next to each other) Got that picture?... LOL:p
Making my job much easier Ray delivered a Suzuki King Quad to use with plans of adding a trailer to the back of it. Should come in really handy to get around the miles of logging roads to get stuff done. The Factory Ford Focus has been on some really scary rocks as of lately getting farther out to build trails.
We had a new guy stop by fron Jersey and he was totally blow away when he heard we have mt bike trails, also on the land. He saw the Woody and just smiled. Five bucks says when he visits next time the MTB is in the truck too.:)
In the one pic it looks like the "local dog union" got together and hired a contractor to dig up their dog bones!... LMAO:D
Thanks to Brian and Stephanie for the great food, and to the rest for a good days work done!
... to Ray for the use of this great Suzuki quad complete with winch, getting around is much easier with this unit.
Thanks again Ray!
... to Ray for the use of this great Suzuki quad complete with winch, getting around is much easier with this unit.
Thanks again Ray!
Stopped by after the race to do a little trail work in the rain...
... of course working on trails in the rain is a great way to see where the water likes to go!:madman:
After spending a few days at the drafting table, and looking at the land on topo maps trying to figure how to use this very "thin ridge trail area" I finally discovered a way to use it as a trail that will benefit us in 3 ways, rather than a hum drum rock crawling experience.:madmax:
One, it will provide a connection with Itchy Tire, this allowing a direction change and open more areas to trails, without climbing a total mega rock infested hill...:eekster:
Two, From the ridge trail going left opens up an area very similar to T-Rex 2 at the mOOn. Flowing connected turns that provide fun! Might even Lolli-pop it to reconnect with Itchy Tire and do laps!:p
Three, From the ridge trail going right puts the rider back in the rocks. Not a bad thing just a different type of terrain.:D
So there it is another new trail and area to add to the Hunlock's Rocks riding area. It's roughed in and will be open for the "Ride da rocks at Hunlocks MTB Weekend on October 1&2 :thumbsup:
looking good, looks like alot of "wood" there and tech riding. anything fast & flowing?
We have lots of diverse trails and woody, come check it out sometime!
Originally Posted by jkad
More to come!
... just get wetter when it rains sideways... LOL;)
Biggest problem was getting there, roads blocked, one with 17 trees...:eekster: so I helped cut trees out since I had the chain saw and fuel in the vehicle, even met one guy who asked about mt biking at mOOn, after our brief conversation while cutting trees off the road, then he asked me "where the hell I was going to" Told him to HCGA, to work and ride. You had to see the look on his face! A true believer:D
Got the new bridge built on Itchy Tire(IT) over the water line. Got it really level and smooth as to not deflect riders cause it is in a turn and up a bit, riding it puts you out over the view.:eek:
The Suzuki 4wd quad works great for hauling tools and lumber even if I can't get right on the trail near is close enough... Thanks again Ray!:)
Right after the bridge on IT the angled log over got a small ramp filler, should improve flow but yet hold interest as an object.:ihih:
Sorry for a few blurry pics due to the rain, I'll get better ones next time.
way to go with the dedication (and community spirit)!
Hurricane pics of the Woody and Fat Dog...
... then the newest unnamed trail rock section!
It has a big table rock turn and a double line with zap gaps,(croutons not included) might drop a nut on this one... LOL
Ride da (hurricane proof) Rocks at Hunlocks!
WOW... THAT is amazing work , dedication, and much loyalty . I wish NJ had more people like you and trails like this , its a shame since we have soo many mountains and nobody is creative up here. You guys looking to maybe add some DH kind of style trails? with some nice berms, drops, and 3-4 jumps ? WOuld be pretty sweet !
Thanks for your great comments...
...I'll pass it on to the land owners also!
We have been looking at the property elevations and after the XC trails are done we plan to have a DH line or two. We have the wood to build also, good thing is its private property and owned by Moto guys so jumping is right up their alley, some of the moto trails have super ledge drops now, but in true moto style they usually slam right back up the next ridge, pretty much impossible on an MTB.
I hope you can gather a group in NJ someday. NJ has some of the greatest trails alll around. Have hit many of the H2H races got to see lots!
As soon as I hit the lottery for a realy big amount I will just ride around and build stuff for people to ride!
We have a mt bike weekend at the HCGA and Moon lake properties October 1-2 your invited, come ride, drink, and be hairy... LOL
The trees on FaT Fog are chainsawed out. The bottom section of High Noon is blown out and clear now. The Boardwalk section is blown clear and back to normal now too. I should be up there tomorrow and we'll see how much more can get cleared.
Lee, I have your gas can still too. I'll put it in the Red Building if I don't see you Monday.
Anyone planning to come up for the October 1-2 weekend please post here or PM me so I can get an understanding of how many people plan to come.
I'll be there... LOL