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    Mount Penn - Antietem - Pagoda, Trail Maps?

    With all the talk about the very good old and new trails at Mount Penn, does anybody have any maps or GPS tracks of the good stuff? I'm going to try and make it out there on saturday (I'll bring my GPS and log the ride), but I was hoping to get some direction as to where the desirable trails are.

    My bike is a cross country soft-tail, but I do just fine at french creek and bear creek. I'm not looking to do major hucking or wall rides, but my bike will handle drops up to 2 feet or so (depending on the situation, of course). Ladders, bridges, teeters, etc. are all fair game, as well.

    All the gps tracks I find on motionbased are for trail running.... Thanks in advance.

    [edit] Is the Atietem parking lot relatively safe?

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    I'll be there Sat. AM if you want a tour. 10:00 at the Antietam Lake parking lot. White Ford Expedition. I'll actually be starting @ 9:00, then heading back to the parking lot to pick up some other riders @ 10:00. You're welcome to join me at 9:00 or 10:00.

    Your bike will be fine for the trails, and your car will be fine in the parking lot.

    Tom

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    Or if you'd rather explore on your own, park here, head out the back of the parking lot, and seek out "the path less traveled".
    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...7,0.01296&z=16

    You won't be disappointed.

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    There are very few marked trails and it is our intention to keep it that way.this place begs to be explored,and I believe this is one it's greatest attributes.you won't be disappointed.

    Hey tduro,so you've ridden stone henge?and how about the bolder rock shoots near Rotory park.wild log ride?

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    The unmapped/unmarked nature of the area kept me away for years. My loss. Once I finally broke the ice, it didn't take long to find my way around. First on the main trails, then offshoots connecting main trails, then avoiding the main trails altogether. The more you explore the better it gets! Mt. Penn is truly a hidden gem.

    I'm still trying to match the names with the trails, so I don't know exactly which trails you're referring to. I think I rode past the top entrance to stonehenge today, but we were headed somewhere else so we didn't explore it this time. I might check it out in the morning. I gave a tour today to a guy who had never been there before. I think he was very impressed.

    I've seen some pretty intense lines coming down off the boulders near Rotary Park. I know a couple ways through and/or around there, but I haven't tried some of the crazy-ass lines I've seen. Even the trail around the bottom is pretty technical. I love the newly cleared stuff paralleling the south side of List Rd. between the yellow and red blazed road crossings (and even further south past the cave).

    Between the radio tower and the pagoda, I've explored all the windy technical stuff above the red blazed trail, between the red and the yellow, and below the yellow. I think most of it could be deemed a "wild log ride". My first time into the new stuff between red and yellow, I ended up going around a few times until I found my way out. It was hilarious! "I know I've seen this tree three times already. Will I ever find my way out?" Very cool.

    Thanks for all the great trails!

    Tom

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    RoyDean, did you get out to Mt. Penn today? I saw someone in the parking lot at 9:00 and though it might be you. I introduced myself and it wasn't you. But I ended up joining the guy (Jim) on a 3 hr. ride. He showed me some trails I didn't know, and vice versa.

    If you don't give it a try, you won't know what you're missing. Let me know if you want a tour sometime.

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    readingracing, how many miles of new trails, and how many miles of newly cleared old trails, would you say have been added to the area in the last year?

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    Hey dudes... Sorry Tduro, I did make it there this morning, however I *ahem* slept in, so I got there at about 9:30am (I had planned to be there closer to 8am, had to leave by 11am). So I only explored about 6 miles of trails, with lots of back tracking and head scratching. Way too many options, but I did stumble upon a few very fun trails. Unfortunately one of them was a very sweet downhill run from the firetower (right off the rocky ridgeline heading downhill towards the pagoda from the firetower) that I had to CLIMB. The "drop in" from the ridge trail was nearly impossible for me to walk up... the rest of that trail is quite doable (other than a couple of the jumps), but I think I'd walk down that portion. I did see the weird bomb shelter looking thing (there's something similar at wissahickon, too!). One of the good trails back down to the lake pretty much started right there. Here's the route I took:

    http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/8027066

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    Roy, looks like you had a great ride! I think I recognize most of those trails. There's many miles of trails within that loop that you haven't seen yet, and even more outside of it. Glad you enjoyed it! Let me know if you ever want a tour.

    Tom

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    readingracing, I think I found stonehenge today. Up the switchback with the banked turns, past the stone cellar, left along the ridge, before dropping down to bobblehead. Took a left at the tee (should I have gone right?). It got pretty technical after that. And every time I thought we were heading down, the trailed turned and went back up. And vice versa. Ended up on the steep part of the yellow blazed trail below the stone cellar.

    We took the yellow trail down, then veered left on a trail that looked like it was heading for the power line, but it veered left again and went straight up the hill where all the wooden bridges, jumps and drops are. I've seen that area from a distance, but today we walked right up the middle of it. Ended up on yellow in back of the stone cellar.

    Explored some sweet new trails in the triangle formed by List Rd., Hill Rd., and the power line. I've been down there before but found even more today. Great riding!

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    tduro,sounds like you were going in the right direction,did you ride the rock outcrop,then down a rock step down with a shoot drop and or go around,then over a bolder rollover?I don't know what trail you call bobblehead is, we should hookup sometime,cool that you guy's are spending time getting to know the area.have some fresh stuff that is not easy to find,like to get it more known and ridden in.

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    That place is stellar.

    Tom and I had a good ride there on Friday.

    Next time maybe I'll see stonehenge.

    ~ Rod

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    readingracing, when do you usually ride? I'd love a tour. I met you a couple times already. First time was when your dog wiped me out in a head-on collision. Then again after the first big ice storm of last winter. I was riding in from List Rd., while you were hiking out (coincidentally right near where the dog wipeout occurred).

    I've met some riders you might know (Jim, Paul, Eddie, Joe, James, Juan, Brad, Bryan, Mike, Chris, another Paul, Todd, and others.) I've introduced several riders to the area, and they're always impressed. And the trails keep getting better!

    I love exploring, so I tend to ride the faintest hint of a trail as far is it takes me. (I've ended up walking and/or bushwhacking on several occasions.) I'm sure I've missed a few trails, but I know my way around pretty well.


    I enjoy meeting local riders and trying to show each other new trails. Sometimes they do, and sometimes I do. Great stuff!

    Tom

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod24
    That place is stellar.

    Tom and I had a good ride there on Friday.

    Next time maybe I'll see stonehenge.

    ~ Rod
    Yeah, that was a great ride, Rod. And there's probably another 3 - 4 times as much as what we did that day. I did another 20 miles between Sat. and Sun., including some sweet miles I never saw before. Let me know when you want to check out some more trails. Bring some buds if you like. The entire mountain begs to be ridden.

    Tom

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    hey guys I just joined to chime in here with this thread. I have only rode the trails twice and not very much of them. I would like to meet up with a group to learn more so if anyone is heading the this saturday the 25th please let me know.

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    looks like there will be a small group meeting on Saturday the 25th. If you want in speak up. member bankofdad is going to lead the way for me and a friend that do not know the trails. the more the merrier. we are looking to start between 12 and 1 but if the majority wants to ride in the morning we can move it up.

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    Let me know the time and I might be able to join you.are you meeting at the lake or rotory park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingracing
    Let me know the time and I might be able to join you.are you meeting at the lake or rotory park.
    as of right now we plan to meet at the firetower at 1:30

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    thanks for the great time guys, can't wait to do it again

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    I live in the damn town and I've never ridden there. I might be 5 minutes from antietam lake too. I just don't get out much anymore. I'm not much of a rider either so that's kind of intimidating.

    What's the terrain like? I've previously rode at Neversink Mountain and found it to be nice, but I encountered some guys on atvs/motos and a family out with one carry guns. Not sure if they were home owners on the the mountain, but that was kind of strange. They were small game rifles, but still. I was under the impression that motos/atvs werent allowed on those trails? Also I have yet to find the damn loop as the map I found for Neversink sucks. I liked the terrain there. A bit rough on a hard tail, but fun on the way down.

    So how does Mt Penn compare?

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    From flow to as technical as your comfortable with.there is some nice trail on Neversink if you know where to look.

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    I haven't ridden Neversink, so I can't comment on that. I really haven't heard too many good things about it.

    Mt. Penn can be ridden by a beginner if you stick to the main trails. Starting from Antietam Lake the main trails aren't technical, but it's about 400-500' of elevation gain in the first mile. There's no reason to be intimidated if you're willing to walk a tough spot here and there.

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    Neversink actually has some great trails and some really great climbs,you can ride down to the Thun trail and there is some river single track,but unfortunately isn't ridden enough.we used to have a three mtn excursion years ago,but the third mtn is private property and accessible by invite only.or born and bred Creasion. the trails are exceptional.tduro,how's the shoulder coming along.rode Rattling Creek for the first time Sun,interesting rock features and great flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingracing
    Neversink actually has some great trails and some really great climbs,you can ride down to the Thun trail and there is some river single track,but unfortunately isn't ridden enough.we used to have a three mtn excursion years ago,but the third mtn is private property and accessible by invite only.or born and bred Creasion. the trails are exceptional.tduro,how's the shoulder coming along.rode Rattling Creek for the first time Sun,interesting rock features and great flow.
    I did find some I liked a lot, but it was hard to find connections up there. It seemed like there were a lot of atv type trails rather than single track. I'd end up getting all turned around looking for a loop though

    I'll try started at antietam lake since its close by. I don't mind walking...its good for my ego!

    thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingracing
    Neversink actually has some great trails and some really great climbs,you can ride down to the Thun trail and there is some river single track,but unfortunately isn't ridden enough.we used to have a three mtn excursion years ago,but the third mtn is private property and accessible by invite only.or born and bred Creasion. the trails are exceptional.tduro,how's the shoulder coming along.rode Rattling Creek for the first time Sun,interesting rock features and great flow.
    Each day I get a little better range of motion, but I've got a long way to go, and I still have a lot of pain. I rode my bike around the block, and felt pretty comfortable. I'll try jogging tomorrow, and maybe kayaking on the weekend. But absorbing bumps with my arms will have to wait until I'm pain-free, or risk doing more damage. You said this happened to you before. Did it get all discolored like mine?

    I've heard nothing but great things about Rattling Creek. I'll have to check it out this summer.
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    Nice bruise Sasquatch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tduro
    Each day I get a little better range of motion, but I've got a long way to go, and I still have a lot of pain. I rode my bike around the block, and felt pretty comfortable. I'll try jogging tomorrow, and maybe kayaking on the weekend. But absorbing bumps with my arms will have to wait until I'm pain-free, or risk doing more damage. You said this happened to you before. Did it get all discolored like mine?

    I've heard nothing but great things about Rattling Creek. I'll have to check it out this summer.

    Did you do that up at Mt. Penn tduro?

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    Yeah Paul, that was at Mt. Penn. The thing that sucks the most is that I'd been riding more than ever, increasing my mileage week after week. I was probably the fittest I'd ever been (it's not saying much, but still...). This will set me back a few months at least. And I'm not getting any younger.

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    Get better Tom. I need to come back up to Mt Penn sometime soon.

    Nice bruise, though.

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    Get better Tom ,Fred took me over to the lake parking lot to show me new stuff dane put in and to show me the runners damage they did from the race now I can see what he was talking about he also took me down some older trail to the lake lot from rotary park.

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    Thanks guys. I ran a few miles today without too much discomfort. At least I have a way to stay in shape while waiting to heal.

    Bankofdad, are you Jim that I met 2 weekends ago?

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    Hey tduro yes thats me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankofdad
    Hey tduro yes thats me.
    Cool! Thanks again for inviting me along. I had a great ride!

    I think I know all the trails from Rotary Park to the lake, but you surprised me with some new stuff last time, so you never know.

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    Tom,have you ridden the new loops on the lake side across Angora Rd?if not when your back in the saddle again contact me.I'll be happy to hook up and show you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingracing
    Tom,have you ridden the new loops on the lake side across Angora Rd?if not when your back in the saddle again contact me.I'll be happy to hook up and show you.
    Do you mean in this area? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...h&z=16&iwloc=A
    I know a short loop in there, but it's not new.

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    Yes that area,trust me there is more!

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    Cool. I'll explore it one way or another.

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    Soon to be some new sweetness.test rode some of it yesterday,the rest needs some finish.

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    There will be a small gang of us doing shuttle DH runs in the morning tomorrow (Saturday) if anyone needs help finding trails. We'll be there from 10am till 3 or later.

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    anyone riding this sunday the 3rd?

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    anyone riding on saturday the 16th early in the morning?

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    My friend was there riding with someone yesterday and he told me that we have been missing some awesome singletrack. We are going up there on Sat morning around 6:30 AM 7:00 AM. You are welcome to join us. I am not the fastest rider (especially up long climbs like the one out of Antietam lake parking lot) We are starting on List Rd. right by the ballfield entrance.

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    If I can get myself outta bed then I will be there, look for a silver suby wagon.

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    This place just keeps better and better every day! I was out yesterday morning on a very slick ride and was riding on another 2 to 3 more miles of trail that was just under my nose. I have been riding almost solely up here for the past 8 months at least once a week and thought i had almost all the trails licked but sure enough I keep discovering more and more! I know more and more is always being added too! Just when you have ridden on a piece of trail and you have been to the end of it and know where it takes you, you ride it again a month or two later and bang another trail has been extended, or another trail has been connected to previous ones. AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME!!!! There has got to be at least 23 miles of singletrack up here!

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    The beauty of Mt Penn/Antietam is the discovery,Paul your the kind of rider that this area appeals to,keep your eye's open there is more to be found.just recently completed two new lines one I call One Way and to ride it would be self explanatory,has a complicated rock feature.seek and you shall find!

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    Kind of off topic, but I didnt want to start a new thread so...

    Wanted to ride out at Antietam lake area but ran out of time so I went with what I knew: Neversink MTN. i started out at the Exeter river trail section and rode up past the memorial park and took a left. The long gradual climb was a good test of just how out of shape I am. Good news is that my ride jersey still fits! Bad news? I walked a bit. Not terrible though.

    I climbed to the overlook that lets you see out over the valley looking on towards the power plant and 422. Its actually a really nice view. I continued on to the gate at the dump and turned around as I had run out of time. I would've liked to have gone on to Witch Hat actually as that's a good varied ride for me.

    As I was coming back down I passed a guy on a brown or 'root beer' Santa Cruz. Couldn't tell if it was a Blur, or a Superlight though. Was that any of you guys? If so then I was the guy on the blue Cannondale Caffeine hard tail with the red helmet and red fox jersey.

    I let gravity do the work for the descent for the most part and was treated to a nice relaxing ride down the mountain. I would've liked it more if I didn't have to dismount for the two bridges, and be warned that there is a lot of glass in the railroad tunnel coming off of the river trail.

    Trail was pretty moist down at the bottom, but the sandy soil up near the top was nice and dry without being the powder it gets to be late in the summer. There were a lot of rocks after the look out, and the washout near there is getting worse. The drop to the left as you come up on it is scary looking. I left feeling like I could've gone farther, and my Ramen noodle lunch seemed to actually do me good!

    So that was my first ride of the season. Pathetic that it took me so long, but damn did it feel good!

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    You can find some nice single track if you take the time to look.the mtn is really under developed as far as mtn biking is concerned,and has a lot of potential.

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    one way

    i think i found one way behind/beside at the backside of the rocks,rotry park old log jump left up over into a narly rock shute with a thread the needle ..............ends a bottom of deerhead?that is badass.

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    Is this Dave? it's not one way but glad you like it,did you see the other shute? that one is really balls up all most took me out the first time I did it and still makes me nervous,grippy tires are a must! one way is off the upper level old stump jump trail.there is a new tech rock/trials section that feeds into wall rock trail at Rotary,starts at stone henge entrance,has a six foot drop,check it out.

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