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    Mount Penn - Antietem - Pagoda, Trail Maps?

    With all the talk about the very good old and new trails at Mount Penn, does anybody have any maps or GPS tracks of the good stuff? I'm going to try and make it out there on saturday (I'll bring my GPS and log the ride), but I was hoping to get some direction as to where the desirable trails are.

    My bike is a cross country soft-tail, but I do just fine at french creek and bear creek. I'm not looking to do major hucking or wall rides, but my bike will handle drops up to 2 feet or so (depending on the situation, of course). Ladders, bridges, teeters, etc. are all fair game, as well.

    All the gps tracks I find on motionbased are for trail running.... Thanks in advance.

    [edit] Is the Atietem parking lot relatively safe?

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    I'll be there Sat. AM if you want a tour. 10:00 at the Antietam Lake parking lot. White Ford Expedition. I'll actually be starting @ 9:00, then heading back to the parking lot to pick up some other riders @ 10:00. You're welcome to join me at 9:00 or 10:00.

    Your bike will be fine for the trails, and your car will be fine in the parking lot.

    Tom

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    Or if you'd rather explore on your own, park here, head out the back of the parking lot, and seek out "the path less traveled".
    http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sour...7,0.01296&z=16

    You won't be disappointed.

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    There are very few marked trails and it is our intention to keep it that way.this place begs to be explored,and I believe this is one it's greatest attributes.you won't be disappointed.

    Hey tduro,so you've ridden stone henge?and how about the bolder rock shoots near Rotory park.wild log ride?

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    The unmapped/unmarked nature of the area kept me away for years. My loss. Once I finally broke the ice, it didn't take long to find my way around. First on the main trails, then offshoots connecting main trails, then avoiding the main trails altogether. The more you explore the better it gets! Mt. Penn is truly a hidden gem.

    I'm still trying to match the names with the trails, so I don't know exactly which trails you're referring to. I think I rode past the top entrance to stonehenge today, but we were headed somewhere else so we didn't explore it this time. I might check it out in the morning. I gave a tour today to a guy who had never been there before. I think he was very impressed.

    I've seen some pretty intense lines coming down off the boulders near Rotary Park. I know a couple ways through and/or around there, but I haven't tried some of the crazy-ass lines I've seen. Even the trail around the bottom is pretty technical. I love the newly cleared stuff paralleling the south side of List Rd. between the yellow and red blazed road crossings (and even further south past the cave).

    Between the radio tower and the pagoda, I've explored all the windy technical stuff above the red blazed trail, between the red and the yellow, and below the yellow. I think most of it could be deemed a "wild log ride". My first time into the new stuff between red and yellow, I ended up going around a few times until I found my way out. It was hilarious! "I know I've seen this tree three times already. Will I ever find my way out?" Very cool.

    Thanks for all the great trails!

    Tom

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    RoyDean, did you get out to Mt. Penn today? I saw someone in the parking lot at 9:00 and though it might be you. I introduced myself and it wasn't you. But I ended up joining the guy (Jim) on a 3 hr. ride. He showed me some trails I didn't know, and vice versa.

    If you don't give it a try, you won't know what you're missing. Let me know if you want a tour sometime.

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    readingracing, how many miles of new trails, and how many miles of newly cleared old trails, would you say have been added to the area in the last year?

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    Hey dudes... Sorry Tduro, I did make it there this morning, however I *ahem* slept in, so I got there at about 9:30am (I had planned to be there closer to 8am, had to leave by 11am). So I only explored about 6 miles of trails, with lots of back tracking and head scratching. Way too many options, but I did stumble upon a few very fun trails. Unfortunately one of them was a very sweet downhill run from the firetower (right off the rocky ridgeline heading downhill towards the pagoda from the firetower) that I had to CLIMB. The "drop in" from the ridge trail was nearly impossible for me to walk up... the rest of that trail is quite doable (other than a couple of the jumps), but I think I'd walk down that portion. I did see the weird bomb shelter looking thing (there's something similar at wissahickon, too!). One of the good trails back down to the lake pretty much started right there. Here's the route I took:

    http://trail.motionbased.com/trail/activity/8027066

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    Roy, looks like you had a great ride! I think I recognize most of those trails. There's many miles of trails within that loop that you haven't seen yet, and even more outside of it. Glad you enjoyed it! Let me know if you ever want a tour.

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    readingracing, I think I found stonehenge today. Up the switchback with the banked turns, past the stone cellar, left along the ridge, before dropping down to bobblehead. Took a left at the tee (should I have gone right?). It got pretty technical after that. And every time I thought we were heading down, the trailed turned and went back up. And vice versa. Ended up on the steep part of the yellow blazed trail below the stone cellar.

    We took the yellow trail down, then veered left on a trail that looked like it was heading for the power line, but it veered left again and went straight up the hill where all the wooden bridges, jumps and drops are. I've seen that area from a distance, but today we walked right up the middle of it. Ended up on yellow in back of the stone cellar.

    Explored some sweet new trails in the triangle formed by List Rd., Hill Rd., and the power line. I've been down there before but found even more today. Great riding!

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    tduro,sounds like you were going in the right direction,did you ride the rock outcrop,then down a rock step down with a shoot drop and or go around,then over a bolder rollover?I don't know what trail you call bobblehead is, we should hookup sometime,cool that you guy's are spending time getting to know the area.have some fresh stuff that is not easy to find,like to get it more known and ridden in.

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    That place is stellar.

    Tom and I had a good ride there on Friday.

    Next time maybe I'll see stonehenge.

    ~ Rod

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    readingracing, when do you usually ride? I'd love a tour. I met you a couple times already. First time was when your dog wiped me out in a head-on collision. Then again after the first big ice storm of last winter. I was riding in from List Rd., while you were hiking out (coincidentally right near where the dog wipeout occurred).

    I've met some riders you might know (Jim, Paul, Eddie, Joe, James, Juan, Brad, Bryan, Mike, Chris, another Paul, Todd, and others.) I've introduced several riders to the area, and they're always impressed. And the trails keep getting better!

    I love exploring, so I tend to ride the faintest hint of a trail as far is it takes me. (I've ended up walking and/or bushwhacking on several occasions.) I'm sure I've missed a few trails, but I know my way around pretty well.


    I enjoy meeting local riders and trying to show each other new trails. Sometimes they do, and sometimes I do. Great stuff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rod24
    That place is stellar.

    Tom and I had a good ride there on Friday.

    Next time maybe I'll see stonehenge.

    ~ Rod
    Yeah, that was a great ride, Rod. And there's probably another 3 - 4 times as much as what we did that day. I did another 20 miles between Sat. and Sun., including some sweet miles I never saw before. Let me know when you want to check out some more trails. Bring some buds if you like. The entire mountain begs to be ridden.

    Tom

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    hey guys I just joined to chime in here with this thread. I have only rode the trails twice and not very much of them. I would like to meet up with a group to learn more so if anyone is heading the this saturday the 25th please let me know.

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    looks like there will be a small group meeting on Saturday the 25th. If you want in speak up. member bankofdad is going to lead the way for me and a friend that do not know the trails. the more the merrier. we are looking to start between 12 and 1 but if the majority wants to ride in the morning we can move it up.

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    Let me know the time and I might be able to join you.are you meeting at the lake or rotory park.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingracing
    Let me know the time and I might be able to join you.are you meeting at the lake or rotory park.
    as of right now we plan to meet at the firetower at 1:30

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    thanks for the great time guys, can't wait to do it again

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    I live in the damn town and I've never ridden there. I might be 5 minutes from antietam lake too. I just don't get out much anymore. I'm not much of a rider either so that's kind of intimidating.

    What's the terrain like? I've previously rode at Neversink Mountain and found it to be nice, but I encountered some guys on atvs/motos and a family out with one carry guns. Not sure if they were home owners on the the mountain, but that was kind of strange. They were small game rifles, but still. I was under the impression that motos/atvs werent allowed on those trails? Also I have yet to find the damn loop as the map I found for Neversink sucks. I liked the terrain there. A bit rough on a hard tail, but fun on the way down.

    So how does Mt Penn compare?

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    From flow to as technical as your comfortable with.there is some nice trail on Neversink if you know where to look.

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    I haven't ridden Neversink, so I can't comment on that. I really haven't heard too many good things about it.

    Mt. Penn can be ridden by a beginner if you stick to the main trails. Starting from Antietam Lake the main trails aren't technical, but it's about 400-500' of elevation gain in the first mile. There's no reason to be intimidated if you're willing to walk a tough spot here and there.

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    Neversink actually has some great trails and some really great climbs,you can ride down to the Thun trail and there is some river single track,but unfortunately isn't ridden enough.we used to have a three mtn excursion years ago,but the third mtn is private property and accessible by invite only.or born and bred Creasion. the trails are exceptional.tduro,how's the shoulder coming along.rode Rattling Creek for the first time Sun,interesting rock features and great flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingracing
    Neversink actually has some great trails and some really great climbs,you can ride down to the Thun trail and there is some river single track,but unfortunately isn't ridden enough.we used to have a three mtn excursion years ago,but the third mtn is private property and accessible by invite only.or born and bred Creasion. the trails are exceptional.tduro,how's the shoulder coming along.rode Rattling Creek for the first time Sun,interesting rock features and great flow.
    I did find some I liked a lot, but it was hard to find connections up there. It seemed like there were a lot of atv type trails rather than single track. I'd end up getting all turned around looking for a loop though

    I'll try started at antietam lake since its close by. I don't mind walking...its good for my ego!

    thanks for the info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingracing
    Neversink actually has some great trails and some really great climbs,you can ride down to the Thun trail and there is some river single track,but unfortunately isn't ridden enough.we used to have a three mtn excursion years ago,but the third mtn is private property and accessible by invite only.or born and bred Creasion. the trails are exceptional.tduro,how's the shoulder coming along.rode Rattling Creek for the first time Sun,interesting rock features and great flow.
    Each day I get a little better range of motion, but I've got a long way to go, and I still have a lot of pain. I rode my bike around the block, and felt pretty comfortable. I'll try jogging tomorrow, and maybe kayaking on the weekend. But absorbing bumps with my arms will have to wait until I'm pain-free, or risk doing more damage. You said this happened to you before. Did it get all discolored like mine?

    I've heard nothing but great things about Rattling Creek. I'll have to check it out this summer.
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    Nice bruise Sasquatch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tduro
    Each day I get a little better range of motion, but I've got a long way to go, and I still have a lot of pain. I rode my bike around the block, and felt pretty comfortable. I'll try jogging tomorrow, and maybe kayaking on the weekend. But absorbing bumps with my arms will have to wait until I'm pain-free, or risk doing more damage. You said this happened to you before. Did it get all discolored like mine?

    I've heard nothing but great things about Rattling Creek. I'll have to check it out this summer.

    Did you do that up at Mt. Penn tduro?

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    Yeah Paul, that was at Mt. Penn. The thing that sucks the most is that I'd been riding more than ever, increasing my mileage week after week. I was probably the fittest I'd ever been (it's not saying much, but still...). This will set me back a few months at least. And I'm not getting any younger.

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    Get better Tom. I need to come back up to Mt Penn sometime soon.

    Nice bruise, though.

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    Get better Tom ,Fred took me over to the lake parking lot to show me new stuff dane put in and to show me the runners damage they did from the race now I can see what he was talking about he also took me down some older trail to the lake lot from rotary park.

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    Thanks guys. I ran a few miles today without too much discomfort. At least I have a way to stay in shape while waiting to heal.

    Bankofdad, are you Jim that I met 2 weekends ago?

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    Hey tduro yes thats me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bankofdad
    Hey tduro yes thats me.
    Cool! Thanks again for inviting me along. I had a great ride!

    I think I know all the trails from Rotary Park to the lake, but you surprised me with some new stuff last time, so you never know.

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    Tom,have you ridden the new loops on the lake side across Angora Rd?if not when your back in the saddle again contact me.I'll be happy to hook up and show you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingracing
    Tom,have you ridden the new loops on the lake side across Angora Rd?if not when your back in the saddle again contact me.I'll be happy to hook up and show you.
    Do you mean in this area? http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...h&z=16&iwloc=A
    I know a short loop in there, but it's not new.

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    Yes that area,trust me there is more!

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    Cool. I'll explore it one way or another.

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    Soon to be some new sweetness.test rode some of it yesterday,the rest needs some finish.

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    There will be a small gang of us doing shuttle DH runs in the morning tomorrow (Saturday) if anyone needs help finding trails. We'll be there from 10am till 3 or later.

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    anyone riding this sunday the 3rd?

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    anyone riding on saturday the 16th early in the morning?

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    My friend was there riding with someone yesterday and he told me that we have been missing some awesome singletrack. We are going up there on Sat morning around 6:30 AM 7:00 AM. You are welcome to join us. I am not the fastest rider (especially up long climbs like the one out of Antietam lake parking lot) We are starting on List Rd. right by the ballfield entrance.

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    If I can get myself outta bed then I will be there, look for a silver suby wagon.

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    This place just keeps better and better every day! I was out yesterday morning on a very slick ride and was riding on another 2 to 3 more miles of trail that was just under my nose. I have been riding almost solely up here for the past 8 months at least once a week and thought i had almost all the trails licked but sure enough I keep discovering more and more! I know more and more is always being added too! Just when you have ridden on a piece of trail and you have been to the end of it and know where it takes you, you ride it again a month or two later and bang another trail has been extended, or another trail has been connected to previous ones. AWESOME, AWESOME, AWESOME!!!! There has got to be at least 23 miles of singletrack up here!

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    The beauty of Mt Penn/Antietam is the discovery,Paul your the kind of rider that this area appeals to,keep your eye's open there is more to be found.just recently completed two new lines one I call One Way and to ride it would be self explanatory,has a complicated rock feature.seek and you shall find!

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    Kind of off topic, but I didnt want to start a new thread so...

    Wanted to ride out at Antietam lake area but ran out of time so I went with what I knew: Neversink MTN. i started out at the Exeter river trail section and rode up past the memorial park and took a left. The long gradual climb was a good test of just how out of shape I am. Good news is that my ride jersey still fits! Bad news? I walked a bit. Not terrible though.

    I climbed to the overlook that lets you see out over the valley looking on towards the power plant and 422. Its actually a really nice view. I continued on to the gate at the dump and turned around as I had run out of time. I would've liked to have gone on to Witch Hat actually as that's a good varied ride for me.

    As I was coming back down I passed a guy on a brown or 'root beer' Santa Cruz. Couldn't tell if it was a Blur, or a Superlight though. Was that any of you guys? If so then I was the guy on the blue Cannondale Caffeine hard tail with the red helmet and red fox jersey.

    I let gravity do the work for the descent for the most part and was treated to a nice relaxing ride down the mountain. I would've liked it more if I didn't have to dismount for the two bridges, and be warned that there is a lot of glass in the railroad tunnel coming off of the river trail.

    Trail was pretty moist down at the bottom, but the sandy soil up near the top was nice and dry without being the powder it gets to be late in the summer. There were a lot of rocks after the look out, and the washout near there is getting worse. The drop to the left as you come up on it is scary looking. I left feeling like I could've gone farther, and my Ramen noodle lunch seemed to actually do me good!

    So that was my first ride of the season. Pathetic that it took me so long, but damn did it feel good!

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    You can find some nice single track if you take the time to look.the mtn is really under developed as far as mtn biking is concerned,and has a lot of potential.

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    one way

    i think i found one way behind/beside at the backside of the rocks,rotry park old log jump left up over into a narly rock shute with a thread the needle ..............ends a bottom of deerhead?that is badass.

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    Is this Dave? it's not one way but glad you like it,did you see the other shute? that one is really balls up all most took me out the first time I did it and still makes me nervous,grippy tires are a must! one way is off the upper level old stump jump trail.there is a new tech rock/trials section that feeds into wall rock trail at Rotary,starts at stone henge entrance,has a six foot drop,check it out.

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    one way?

    do u mean on roth's side by rotry?for oneway? where's stonehenge? yes it is dave , dane . the chute i seen was a big stone slad into a left with a thread the needle between 2 trees then a rock up and over .thats the freeride trail with grippy tires needed?that other chute is a old line that heads to the parking lot.we got to get together to build and session this stuff .

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    Since I've posted on this thread before I have ridden some more awesome trails yet again! Its funny how you can ride these trecherous trails for a couple of months and not get hurt for awhile and the you ride out at Blue Marsh once, and crash hard. I just don't get it.
    Anyway I was out on the trails at Antietam/Mt. Penn this past Wed. for a short hour and a half ride and was noticing, and have been noticing, the amount of glass on the trails. Its everywhere and its starting to piss me off. Everywhere you go glass. I mean I know there has been glass up at that stone cellar area by Rotary Park since I started riding up there but now its everywhere else too. It annoys the crap out of me that people walk around up there and( most likely on purpose) break their bottles right on the trails, anywhere. I am beginning to wonder if there is just a certain person who doesn,t like us Mountain bikers and is doing it?
    I have been wanting to ride a certain area of trails for over a month
    and a half now. I was on part of the trail many times and then some more newer stuff opened up and connected with more and I rode those other loops only once. So I decided to go and ride those two loops again . Awesome again! I had to stop and move some dead tree brush and after I moved it I pushed my bike back up the trail a little so I could do the log rollover. Little did I know I stirred up a bee hive or something and was attacked by a bunch of bees. Man was I running, I dropped my bike and my hydration pack and was fumbling to get my helmet off because I was getting stung in the head too. I have been stung before but only like one at a time. It hurts when you get stung a couple of times. I'm just glad I'm not allergic to bees. The crazy thing about it was that at no time did I actually see any bees, so I didn't know what was attacking me.
    Have fun riding! see you lata!

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    Some friends and I have recently started doing some shuttle runs there. There's some awesome trails. My favorite trail is A-line; love doing jumps. I was wondering if there's any more trails like that. Also I noticed some of the jumps were in poor condition. I wasn't sure who fixes up the trail. I'd assume nobody would object to us doing a little maintenance do them? What about building new jumps? I was thinking it would be really awesome if another freeride trail something like that would be built. I wasn't sure if it would be allowed for something like that to be done. If so, I might be able to bring a few friends to do some building.
    Thanks!

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    Anyone want to ride tomorrow from Antietam lake at 9AM? (Sunday 8/30/09)

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    The Antietam Lake parking lot seems to be closed due to road re-paving in the area. Where are some other good parking spots. I know of a small spot on List Rd. and there's the fire tower. Where else to people park?

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    Those are the three spots we always park at, List rd. at the ball field is a popular one!

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    did some shuttle runs from the fire tower yesterday down a-line and the trails across the street from airplane circles.. dont know the trail name. the first ride down sucked..someone tried to destroy and de -feature A-line. they tore out logs n rocks from the jumps but buckets n rocks on the take offs n landings n put logs n rocks in the banked turns. three of us cleared the debris n fixed up the jumps but its not perfect. its rideable but may need some more repair work. i rode the same trails 2 weeks ago n everything was fine! is there conflict with hikers up there or was it random acts of someone being a *******? any way this place has some good stuff to ride but i still have a lot of exploring to do.

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    t-dogs, I ride mostly XC there. I was on that a-line trail today but didn't notice anything unusual. Then again I go around most of the jumps, so I might not have noticed the difference. I did notice the buckets were in a different place than yesterday, but they're in a different place every time I ride through. I hope nobody's f'ing with the trails. I rode over 20 miles this weekend, and everything seemed cool.

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    Does anyone know when the big cleanup at Antietam/Mt. Penn is this year? It time to get those trails cleared out and ridden!!!

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    Fred said early december.Have you been riding on the other side of the lake at all where you and Eddy,Fred repaired the hill from the runners?I would like to ride there sunday afternoon but I am sure I will not be able to make out where the trail goes from the leaves covering it up like on the woodcutters trail and the new section Dane put in on the north side of the powerline that you pick up from rotary park.

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    Paul, I've still been riding there a lot, but I've been losing the trail quite frequently due to all the leaves. There has been some raking on the main trails, where it's not needed, but the secondary trails need some work.

    Jim, I don't think I've seen the trails on the other side of the lake. But I'd love to check them out some time. Are you planning on riding this weekend?

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    Glad to see someone is making use of this natural setting. Me and the former Nature Center Director put a lot of those original trails in from Drenkle field to Nature Center. We did all this before the Rotary Park was. That area used to be called the archery field. Below the archery range was an old hotel(Keichler's Roost). We had trouble with undesirables using the new trails. Anyway you guys using the area probably cleaned it up. that's a good thing. Goodluck guys and 'keep the rubber side down'.
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    Who is in for some trail cleanup?

    If anyone is interested! I plan on going up there tomorrow to do some raking of the trails below the fire tower! It was alright when I rode up there and there was snow covering the trail but then I went the next time when the snow was melting and the trails had lotsa leaves underneath making it impossible for any traction! I will be starting between 9 and 10 AM from the firetower! If anyone is interested let me know. I was planning on riding until I thought this would be a better idea because I crashed on Saturday anyway and gouged my knee!

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    Yo Pauley,
    Paul told me about your little mis-hap, hope you are OK. If you are up to it I am doing Gretna Sat am and it looks like Paul may come and possibly Kris. Let me know. We did 10 miles at BM for our first official night ride last night. Pretty wild, but seemed like the entire loop was up hill. Notice I use periods, try it sometime

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lugi
    Yo Pauley,
    Paul told me about your little mis-hap, hope you are OK. If you are up to it I am doing Gretna Sat am and it looks like Paul may come and possibly Kris. Let me know. We did 10 miles at BM for our first official night ride last night. Pretty wild, but seemed like the entire loop was up hill. Notice I use periods, try it sometime
    May I ask what loop you did.? I was out last Sat and it was way icy,downright scary at times. Sounds like it was better for you.

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    We started at State Hill Launch behind the bathrooms and went out that way(South side of the lake), up 7 mile hill and came back, I had no clue where we were, as i am not a BM rider normally and it was dark of course. I think that most of the ice melted, it was not too bad.I am a Gretna fan and will be there Saturday am if you are into it! PM me if you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lugi
    We started at State Hill Launch behind the bathrooms and went out that way(South side of the lake), up 7 mile hill and came back, I had no clue where we were, as i am not a BM rider normally and it was dark of course. I think that most of the ice melted, it was not too bad.I am a Gretna fan and will be there Saturday am if you are into it! PM me if you are.
    Nice to know ...that loop is a nice chunk of my normal " training" loop -- if that's what I should call it.Thanks for the Gretna offer.... I have my daughter's birthday on Sat at 1p or I would be there.A riding buddy at work is a Gretna regular, and loves the place .

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    Trail cleanup!!!

    Ouch, pain! I was up at Antietam /Mt Penn today with another guy(Jason)! We cleared out a lot of trail today and I would like to do it some more because we didn't finish the rest of the trail that we started! I was simply too exhausted to rake any more leaves! The trails we raked are primo so get up there and ride!!!! We started raking right behind the tower down the steps and down that trail a little bit is where we started raking! Also I found a mountain bike glove that someone lost up there! Its a Troy Lee Design glove and doesn't look that old if you or someone you know lost it! Let me know!!

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    I have a leafblower you can borrow if you want Paul beats rakeing unless the leaves are frozen and stuck to the ground. Pm me and I can drop it off after work 7:30 am.

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    Yeah that would have helped later on in the afternoon on the trail that hasnt been ridden on too much! Earlier on in the morning(10.00 - 12:00) the trails that have been riden in alot, there were hard frozen leaves underneath and you needed a rake. I don't plan on going up tomorrow but if I should go up again next week I will definitely call you! Thanks for offering Bankofdad! I plan on riding the trails tomorrow that were cleared out today! If the weather holds out!

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    Hi,
    I'm new to this site.but live in the area. would really like to checkout the trails sometime with someone who knows there way around..(i hate to get lost).. i kind of remember doing downhill shuttle runs in that area years ago..Is the place single speed friendley?
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    I wouldnt say its SS friendly but I was out with this guy on Saturday who was riding a 29er SS rigid bike and he was good! Me personally ,NO! If you are good YES! I'm probably heading out around 9:30 tomorrow from the tower if you are interested!

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    Thanks for the offer. i just checked the forcast, it looks like we are going to get some freezing rain late tonight and into Friday morning. so it may be a little too slick for me.. but Saturday would also work for me..
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    Hey mikeoo1, looks good outside, no ice or rain! We are def. gonna be going riding today! We will be at the firetower by 9:45 AM if you are still interested in riding today! I woke up this morning feeling like a Mac truck hit me! Guess I went a little overboard on the raking yesterday! Post back or PM me if your still interested in going out there today! Its rocky and technical!

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    Hey mike001 we are not ,I repeat, not going to ride today! We are going to rake from where we left off yesterday! Can't see leaving a trail unfinished, so we are gonna be raking fools again today! Wheres the Alieve?

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    Pauly, Let me know if you want to do Gretna tomorrow and what time you (and whoever else may want to come) can be there. I will be leaving from Nature Center Parking lot.

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    mtnbkerkonadawgdeluxepaul,
    Thanks for the heads-up..I will send you a PM with my contact info...i would really like to check the place out sometime..
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    Hey,Paul what trail were you raking today?I opened up my Quarry ridge line this morning.you need mtn goat skills to ride it (-;

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    Quarry ridge trail, hmmmm I've gotta try to ride it! Where is it? Me and another guy started yesterday from the steps behind the tower and after the cinders on the trail we started raking that trail till we met up with the trail that heads down to the main red trail going to the tower! We saw a new trail veering off to the left then. I didn't follow it(yet)( that's tomorrow)! We resumed cleanup on the trail, off the main red trail, that heads down towards angora road and cleaned up to the old access road that goes over the wall there! We actually cleaned all three loops that are in that area. We then proceeded to rake the trail past that wall and over to the S turn climb up to the start of the DH run near the tower again! We are riding tomorrow around 11:30 AM if you want to show us around! I would like to ride all that we cleaned out and also the section that I seen but didn't ride and your newest trail!

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    What's up with all the chain-sawing? All my favorite logs are disappearing! The raking is fine - helps me find the trail. But if I wanted sterilized trails I'd go to French Creek.

    Some of those logs have been challenging me since I started riding Mt. Penn several years ago. Some I've conquered. Others I was just getting close. Now they're gone! WTF?

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    I totally understand why you are PISSED....The same thing has been going at a local trail i ride a few times a week..

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    Yeah I was out today and noticed a log was sawed out of the way! I don't know who is doing it and i do like the challenges the logs bring! I don't own a chainsaw! I have only been raking the trails and that's it! That is all I bring out with me!

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    What trails are you talking about,there has been very little change as far as logs go,unless some that the County cut out on main trails.if anything there are more after recent storms but minimal trust me being the main trail builder I build for challenge! I've had complaints about to many logs! tduro ever ridden wild log ride 1,2and 3 you can get all your log riding requirements full filled on these tails alone or show you logs that only myself and one other can clean and if you really want challenge come out with us and ride the tech rock features I've built in the last year.also completed a series of log rides not roll overs that are sweet.if you like to challenge yourself or your skills we have it all,logs,rocks,drops,gaps,doubles,step downs,shoots,steeps,Mt penn/Antietam Lake is the last word for true All Mtn riding in our area.

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    One was on the yellow-blazed trail between Haag Rd. and Rotary Park. It was a tough one, on a hill, and elevated off the ground. I've seen people ride it, and I was getting really close.

    Another was on the trail marked with red dots (not the main red-blazed trail). This trail parallels Skyline Dr. on the east side, between the radio towers and the fire tower, close to the top of the mountain. There was a big log near a turn that branches off and drops down into a new twisty turny section. I finally rode that one in both directions. Now it's gone.

    There were several log rides in the wedge between Spuhler Ln. and Skyline. One was recently raked 2-3 weeks ago. I had lost it in the fall leaves, and the raking revealed it again. It was chock full of challenging log crossings, and I was excited that I was able to follow it again. I rode it a again last weekend, and many of the logs were gone. There's still some good logs left, but not like before.

    There's other missing logs as well, but I can't describe their exact location. Don't get me wrong, Mt. Penn is still my first choice. I just hope it isn't degraded by over-zealous sterilization efforts. I've seen that happen elsewhere, and it sucks.

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    The red trail was cleaned by a volunteer hiking group,some compromises have to be made.and I can't recall the one on yellow don't ride that as much to many other challenging options.have you actually ridden wild log ride ? very few can clean the whole thing something like 30 plus log overs with log rides,and I know there are some trails you couldn't have ridden or you would never have brought up this log issue.true some logs have been sacrificed but trust me they were few overall.never thought I'd here complaints about lack of log overs.you should really ride with us if you want to know how much stuff is out there,just completed a sweet log and rock roll over the last several days.contact me if you want to hook up.

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    Where is "wild log ride"? I've ridden a few trails that could be named that, but I'm not sure which one you're referring to.

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    tduro,mostly below the Firetower,some of it is cleaned and some not,it crosses over the Firetower access road closer to the yellow gate off of Angora road.and there is actually 50 plus logs of various height,and thats only wild log ride,there is at least that many on all the other trails combined.the logs are great but all the tech rock/bolder areas are really challenging.explore around Rotary Park it's literally a playground there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by readingracing
    tduro,mostly below the Firetower,some of it is cleaned and some not,it crosses over the Firetower access road closer to the yellow gate off of Angora road.and there is actually 50 plus logs of various height,and thats only wild log ride,there is at least that many on all the other trails combined.the logs are great but all the tech rock/bolder areas are really challenging.explore around Rotary Park it's literally a playground there.
    Yeah, I really enjoy those trails below the fire tower. I know the ones you're talking about - both sides of the fire tower access rode. Some of them get pretty rugged. I ride through there a little differently on every ride. Maybe I'm just imagining things, but it seems the logs are disappearing little by little. I hope I'm wrong. Maybe it's just getting easier with practice. And I thought this old dog had stopped learning new tricks years ago!

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    Conditions?

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    took a walk with the kids on the lower part near the lake parking lot yesterday and all the trails were still covered by very wet soft snow. Don't know about higher up though.

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    The dead zone

    Skied there this evening from from rotary and I'm sad to say that the XC skiing season is drawing to quick end with warmer nights coming and the sunny warm afternoons we now have.

    We are now in the dead zone: too liitle snow to ski...too much to bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bbohr
    Skied there this evening from from rotary and I'm sad to say that the XC skiing season is drawing to quick end with warmer nights coming and the sunny warm afternoons we now have.

    We are now in the dead zone: too liitle snow to ski...too much to bike.
    Ah, there is never too much to ride. I'm gonna try tomorrow morning first thing around 9 AM. I know some of the trails up higher that get hit by the sun are rideable. I was up by the Pagoda on the ridge and that was beautiful at around 4:15 this afternoon. I'm gonna ride the DH's and push my rig up the snowy trails! I hope!!

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    Well I was out this morning.....SUCKED!!! All except for the ridge trail near the Pagoda and most of The Network was ridable which made it worth while. The DH run from the tower was pretty sweet up until you get to the lookout area.

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    The Duryea Downhill race is held there there are some practice runs available on youtube here are some links
    the NEW A-Line of Mt Penn - YouTube
    Practice Helmet Cam Duryea Downhill 2012 (pt.2) - YouTube
    Practice Helmet Cam Duryea Downhill 2012 - YouTube

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    Rigid SS?

    How friendly is this place for a single speed Karate Monkey with niner rigid carbon fork?

    I'm new to the area and looking for trails. Ridden french creek, blue marsh, wissahickon, nockamixon, white clay, valley forge, green lane without much trouble at all.

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    No reason not to single speed,tends to be more rugged overall.have a few regular single speeders here and like the challenge.mixed groups ride daily here year round,conditions have been excellent even with snow!

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