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    IUP/Pennsylvania

    Looking for riders around the area, if any exist that is. I've been grasping at straws trying to find local riders. Seems the only "riders" I ever meet are people with fully wally world bikes who've never seen dirt.

    Any riders see this get ahold of me. The trails are so lonely and cold

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    I ll be at IUP tomorrow, I have a Heckler and a Chameleon no wally world bikes here. I might bring the chameleon to get around town tomorrow. Where do you ride at IUP?

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    IUP ride

    Whites Woods by the College Lodge if you like to go up as much as down that is... Lot of short steep hills good for training. Hit me up coz I load the truck on Sat mornings from the stadium lot and take serious riders only up to Laurel Mtn or Roaring Run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcornell
    Whites Woods by the College Lodge if you like to go up as much as down that is... Lot of short steep hills good for training. Hit me up coz I load the truck on Sat mornings from the stadium lot and take serious riders only up to Laurel Mtn or Roaring Run.
    I try to get up there at least 4 times a week or more depending on work and such. I've never ridden at Laurel Mtn or Roaring Run. What are they like?

    Quote Originally Posted by keith13
    I ll be at IUP tomorrow, I have a Heckler and a Chameleon no wally world bikes here. I might bring the chameleon to get around town tomorrow. Where do you ride at IUP?

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    There's whites woods, college lodge, blue spruce park, and I've heard there are some trails at at two lick dam, But I haven't really found anything yet out there.

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    If you ever get closer to Pittsburgh let me know. I just started getting back into it and pulled my old cannondale outta the closet. Let's just say that its seen its share of dirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 94M400
    If you ever get closer to Pittsburgh let me know. I just started getting back into it and pulled my old cannondale outta the closet. Let's just say that its seen its share of dirt.
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    I ride the Ghost Town Trail sometimes. That's about as close to Pittsburgh I ride.

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    Laurel Mtn consists of a network of great rocky, root infested, twisty trails with nature/man made stunts built in. This weekend i'll be at 7-Springs for the race but the following Friday and Sunday I will be heading up to Laurel to ride. I also recomend 7-springs for the downhill course and the cross country trails.

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    Hey how fit are you guys that ride Laurel Mountain and roaring run? I don't want to get too embarassed if I show up? I am living in Monroeville at the moment so I could definitely meet up for a roaring run ride and I really want to go check out Laurel Mountain !!!
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    You owe to to yourself to check out laurel mt. I am very fit and usually spend the day doing most of the trails there. That said, there are trails that everyone can enjoy. I see some really serious guys there on high dollar bikes and I see beginners on wally world bikes all having a good time.

    I think its one of the best rides I've been on anywhere in the US. Nice scenery and a good balance of climbs and technical challenges. The trails are nicely marked and pretty well maintained. There aren't any really long sustained climbs so if you encounter a climb you can't do, just push the bike up. The bigger challenge is the rocks. There are some trails that are almost entirely coverd in large rocks so if you are looking for techincal challenge you will find plenty.

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    I've have to say Laurel Mtn is also my favorite place to ride. It's variety of trails and sites (Wolf Rock) make it ideal. Pack up the Camel Back with a lunch head out from the parking lot across from the entrance to the ski area and explore. Trail maps are available at the parking lot at the DCNR board. Can't miss it.

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    keith id say im an avg rider. i live in plum and ride roaring run a few times a week. i usually ride a pretty casual pace with frequent breaks, though i have gone out on many intermediate rides and had no problem keeping up. let me know if your interested in car pooling a ride up there. im also planning to head out to laurel mtn in the coming weeks, though ive never ridden there. trying to find some people to get together and ride there too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bprush
    keith id say im an avg rider. i live in plum and ride roaring run a few times a week. i usually ride a pretty casual pace with frequent breaks, though i have gone out on many intermediate rides and had no problem keeping up. let me know if your interested in car pooling a ride up there. im also planning to head out to laurel mtn in the coming weeks, though ive never ridden there. trying to find some people to get together and ride there too.
    Count me in for Laurel Mt

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    Quote Originally Posted by dascro
    Count me in for Laurel Mt
    Ditto here. I know you're gone this weekend, but the following weekend I am all for it. When did you say you left from the Stadium lot?

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    im looking to go to laurelmtn monday morning maybe around 9 or so from monroeville. anyonr interested let me know and we can figure out somewhere to meet. im trying to get a few people due to gas costs plus i also dont wantto ride in an area that big alone in cause of some sort of injury. i will also have a gps so no worries on getting lost. plus from what i hear the trails are fairly well marked

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    Laurel Mtn 9-6-08

    Anyone interested ? I'm healing from last weeks 24hr race but the neighbor is bugging me to take him back on the mtn. Truck will pull out early morning.

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    I ride at Yellow creek park. Nothing great but some killer hills. I have to push. It's pretty complex I rode there about 5 times If I went alone I would get lost.

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    I'm heading to Roaring Run in Apollo Sunday with my neighbor. So if anyone will be out around there hope see ya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrix
    I'm heading to Roaring Run in Apollo Sunday with my neighbor. So if anyone will be out around there hope see ya.
    racing there tomorrow...never been there though.

    what times you guys heading out, might have to throw the road and the MTB in the car on sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
    racing there tomorrow...never been there though.

    what times you guys heading out, might have to throw the road and the MTB in the car on sunday.
    I have to talk to my neighbor, but I'm wanting to leave at 11 am at the latest. We're not far from there at all. We want to spend at least 6 hours out there riding. We'll both be riding HT's. I'll be on a blue Hardrock and he'll be on a silver Trek 4300.

    I've never ridden the trails but I heard they vary in extremeties. So I'm debating what equipment to bring. I don't know if a full face will be worth it or not, would you justify it for any of the trails out there?

    EDIT: NVM...haha I completely tuned out "never been there though." Eh screw it, might as well bring it just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrix
    I have to talk to my neighbor, but I'm wanting to leave at 11 am at the latest. We're not far from there at all. We want to spend at least 6 hours out there riding. We'll both be riding HT's. I'll be on a blue Hardrock and he'll be on a silver Trek 4300.

    I've never ridden the trails but I heard they vary in extremeties. So I'm debating what equipment to bring. I don't know if a full face will be worth it or not, would you justify it for any of the trails out there?

    EDIT: NVM...haha I completely tuned out "never been there though." Eh screw it, might as well bring it just in case.
    after riding there today... thisis what I can give you.

    VERY technical riding,, made for a tough race course today. 15 miles and my arms and shoulders are way more sore than my legs.

    some of the rock rides there looked pretty sick didnt hit them because I was racing.

    Expect tons of rocks of all sizes, a good measuring of roots tons of quick up and down. Steep roll down, and slickrock on dirt uphills. the only thing I didnt like was the sidehills argh my 175mm cranks kept hitting the ground.

    i wouldnt wear a full face there ever, lots of tech but nothing you go really fast on. and a full face riding some place you actually have to pedal sucks big time.

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    Thanks for the info.

    We'll be out there around like 2-3 ish tomorrow.
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    We made it down there, got to ride some really technical trails then whaddya know? The two screws holding my hanger on went missing somehow....

    That was a ****ty walk back to the parking lot.
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    Hey folks, I live in Indiana, but don't attend IUP though I did gradumacate from there.

    There used to be a shop ride fro the place on Philadelphia St around 5:00 on Wednesdays I believe.

    I commute from Indiana to Blairsville a few times a week and ride SS up in Whites Woods when I can. If anyone wants to meet up sometime let me know.

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    My bike is going to be in the shop for at least a week. If you're referring to the Trailz End shop on Philly street I'll ask him about that when I take my bike in for some repairs.

    Not this coming monday/tuesday but the following I and my neighbor will be heading down to Roaring Run again to ride. If anyone wants to set up a ride down there get back to me.
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    This week is looking nice. If I don't commute a day this week, I may sneak of for a local ride.

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    I just wanted to post that I'm talking with Friends of Whites Woods in Indiana as well as the Indiana Area Rec and Parks Commission, and IUP about possibly building more trails up in Whites Woods and the College Lodge/Farm area.

    If anyone would be interested in helping out shoot me a message. Or if any of you from the Indiana area know any members of the cycling club on campus let them know and see if they'd be interested.
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    Hows that going?

    To be honest, I'd be surprised if you get anywhere. The FoWW have no sort of management control of the Whit's Woods area and after all the hullaballoo (rightfully so) about the timbering practices, I'm pretty sure the Township, which does manage Whites Woods would want to get anywhere near trail building.

    Have you though of contacting LHORBA? I'm only saying, if you're going to build trails up there, please do it the right way. We've had problems over the years from people building renegade trails up there that are neither legal nor sustainable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocko
    Hows that going?

    To be honest, I'd be surprised if you get anywhere. The FoWW have no sort of management control of the Whit's Woods area and after all the hullaballoo (rightfully so) about the timbering practices, I'm pretty sure the Township, which does manage Whites Woods would want to get anywhere near trail building.

    Have you though of contacting LHORBA? I'm only saying, if you're going to build trails up there, please do it the right way. We've had problems over the years from people building renegade trails up there that are neither legal nor sustainable...
    It's been going ok so far. FoWW have been hugely supportive and the IARPC have been fairly neutral so far in their responses so I'm trying to coax some more definitive responses out of them so that I'm not left in a vague grey area. I know the riding season is technically winding down but if there are some trails that could get built for next riding season and broken in well enough I'd be thrilled. I always thought that a trail that ran parallel to initial trail that is directly to the left of the picnic tables at the top of the climb would be an awesome trail that could carry lots of speed and technical difficulty. As well as a long trail between the college lodge and the college farm. The fire road that runs in between both is hella fun to ride. It's loose, fast, steep.... It's just an absolute joy to ride but given the terrain I think something truly awesome could be built there.

    And believe me, I won't even begin to lay down an inch of trail with out getting the appropriate permission necessary. I love riding up there and certainly would not want to piss off any groups involved with the area.
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    Good to hear. I do like your ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocko
    Good to hear. I do like your ideas.
    Glad you like them. I'm looking for as of right now for people to maybe "rake" up some turns on the trails at whites woods. Raking up turns to make the ground looser to give riders more cornering traction on existing trails isn't a big deal so if anyone (though I'm beginning to doubt anyone in Indiana is interested aside from you) is interested in doing some trail maintenance get back to me. Even if we could rake up some of the tight turns on the first left trail at the picnic tables that could prove insanely helpful. A little raked dirt and riders could carry much more speed through the turns and tackle that track with a lot more momentum than we can carry now. My last accident happened on that trail in fact. I was trying to rail a corner, lost my traction in a turn of basic concrete dirt and ended up slamming into a tree and separating my shoulder as well as fracturing my left fore arm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrix
    Glad you like them. I'm looking for as of right now for people to maybe "rake" up some turns on the trails at whites woods. Raking up turns to make the ground looser to give riders more cornering traction on existing trails isn't a big deal so if anyone (though I'm beginning to doubt anyone in Indiana is interested aside from you) is interested in doing some trail maintenance get back to me. Even if we could rake up some of the tight turns on the first left trail at the picnic tables that could prove insanely helpful. A little raked dirt and riders could carry much more speed through the turns and tackle that track with a lot more momentum than we can carry now. My last accident happened on that trail in fact. I was trying to rail a corner, lost my traction in a turn of basic concrete dirt and ended up slamming into a tree and separating my shoulder as well as fracturing my left fore arm.
    loose trail? instead of a hardpack one? trust me on this the harder the dirt the more sustaniable its is and better grip. If you lost control its your fault not the trail...

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    I'd agree with that. Plus the looser it is the more likely it is to erode, which is really the main problem, especially on the trail you mention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BushwackerinPA
    loose trail? instead of a hardpack one? trust me on this the harder the dirt the more sustaniable its is and better grip. If you lost control its your fault not the trail...
    I wasn't talking about making it extremely loose. Just a few select corners on some of the trails are entirely impossible to really rail given that they slope away from the direction the turn is taking. Just giving them a little more bite for the knobs to grab ahold of which would increase traction through the turn and allow more speed to be carried through them since they don't have any berms you can really lean into and digg into. If the turns were different and had a slight upslope away from the direction of the turn I wouldn't even consider this. I know that really loose dirt is a bad idea, tell me something I don't know, I never said I wanted to basically re-dig up the trails as I feel was the notion you got.
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    I think a lot of the trails up there could be looked at for months by an IMBA crew or other trail building entity. They are hardly sustainable and built as well as they could be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyrix
    I wasn't talking about making it extremely loose. Just a few select corners on some of the trails are entirely impossible to really rail given that they slope away from the direction the turn is taking. Just giving them a little more bite for the knobs to grab ahold of which would increase traction through the turn and allow more speed to be carried through them since they don't have any berms you can really lean into and digg into. If the turns were different and had a slight upslope away from the direction of the turn I wouldn't even consider this. I know that really loose dirt is a bad idea, tell me something I don't know, I never said I wanted to basically re-dig up the trails as I feel was the notion you got.
    trail building, yur doon it rong!

    build up some small, drainable berms instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cdburch
    trail building, yur doon it rong!

    build up some small, drainable berms instead.
    I know. However that's not an option right now until IARPC says it's ok and they are slow as hell to get back to anyone. I haven't heard anything in nearly a week. I would love to build some small berms believe me.
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    Rake the corners..... Trail maintenance...... How about helping me remove all the derailer grabbing limbs from the trails. The storm was two weeks ago and the only log, limb that I did'nt move from the trails was the dead tree on the hill above the walk bridge. Have trouble conering ? Try less tire pressure or maybe a better set of tires. If your riding a full squish maybe look into setting up the suspension properly.
    By the way I've been riding up there for over 10yrs. Last Saturday I was up riding with the neighbor and was stopped by an elderly man. This kind gentlemen explained how some one on a bike flew by him on the trail and came so close he almost fell over the hill.
    I know from experience you can fly that trail with minimum pedal strokes and yes it's a blast but.......watch for the people in the Nike Air Walkers huh !!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcornell
    Rake the corners..... Trail maintenance...... How about helping me remove all the derailer grabbing limbs from the trails. The storm was two weeks ago and the only log, limb that I did'nt move from the trails was the dead tree on the hill above the walk bridge. Have trouble conering ? Try less tire pressure or maybe a better set of tires. If your riding a full squish maybe look into setting up the suspension properly.
    By the way I've been riding up there for over 10yrs. Last Saturday I was up riding with the neighbor and was stopped by an elderly man. This kind gentlemen explained how some one on a bike flew by him on the trail and came so close he almost fell over the hill.
    I know from experience you can fly that trail with minimum pedal strokes and yes it's a blast but.......watch for the people in the Nike Air Walkers huh !!!!!!
    Yeah I usually try to stop and move large branches that can cause problems when I ride up there, it's been a little while for me though while I was waiting for my parts to come in to repair my bike. And I'm always respectful of the other people hiking or walking their dogs. I'll jam on the breaks and slow down to a trickle as I pass them and make sure they know I'm passing on the left or right.
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