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    Green Lane trail conditions

    After the recent weather we have had I urge anyone that is considering riding Green Lane to think about the long term affects that just "1" ride will make. I realize that GLP is not in great shape at this point but I believe in the next few months a revitalization of the trails will occur. The county has begun to clean up post sandy and they have also started working on the wet spots on the blue trail as well as some small ravine work that we have completed. I know everyone is itching to get out and ride but until it freezes again or dries out we are only doing more damage. I spoke with the county today and they will be posting a similar message on their web page in hopes of reaching the equestrian community. Work days are in the plans for the near future and I will be posting dates and contacting everyone that responded earlier. Thanks

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    Have they considered signs at the parking lots? I feel like reaching the equestrian community is at least as hard as reaching the mountain bike community, and if the last time I was out there was any indication they are doing most of the damage (its not all bad though, when the mud was frozen there were some free rock gardens around the softer spots )

    Looks like it *might* be cold enough to freeze the next few nights. Hoping it will be enough to get trails rideable by Sunday. If not at least the perk trail is closeby.
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    I recommended signs at the trail heads as well however it sounds like they have done this before and they are constantly being ripped down. Some people will continue riding no matter what the conditions are mtbr and horses, the only thing we can do is educate them when we see them.

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    Oof. This is why we can't have nice things.

    I think I'll just ride from my house up to the park on Sunday and try to ride around the reservoir (starting with blue). That way if the trails aren't rideable I still get some good miles in. I'll post back how things look, just in time for it to get warm and mushy again
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    I checked a few of the trail sections today and it looks like the cold weather has firmed things up again. We are going to try and get a ride in tomorrow around noon I will post a report on the trail conditions when I get back in.

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    Rode the some of the red trail today and the cedars off of knight rd. the trails were solid and very rideable. Just a quick warning to all the winter riders out there, be aware of areas where water pools up when flooded my brother went down hard on one of these spots today in the middle of the field before the trail head.

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    Thanks for the update. May try to hit green lane tomorrow. And I agree, seeing the ice beneath the snow can be difficult!
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    I got a ride in at Green lane yesterday and did just the red trail. Parked at the second parking lot down Knights road. Lots of ice and some big pools of water. While the Wiss was frozen and fast, Green lane is frozen and slow. When the weather goes up today and this week, it is going to be a complete and utter mess. When the horses hit, the trails will be totally destroyed.
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    Anyone been out up there lately? Thinking of trying to get in a ride after work tomorrow but not sure how sloppy it'll be.
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    I assume that green lane would be a total mess. Even when frozen, it was pretty crappy.
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    Hmm last time I rode there it didn't seem that bad all things considered (only rode red + blue, didn't do much on the far side of Knight Rd). Things seemed to be in good shape except for the usual field sections that I've never seen *not* destroyed.

    If I don't hear back I'll probably err on the side of caution and spin on the perk trail for a bit. But Betzwood was in much better shape than I expected it to be yesterday, so I'm hoping things have dried out a bit up in Green Lane too.
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    I was not out to check on the trails this week but my guess is that they are still pretty wet since the slow thaw is on. On a brighter note we rode up at Bear Creek yesterday and it was great, we rode up to the top and returned back the same way. The bike was almost spotless after the ride which is a pleasant suprise for March. There is the possibility that we may try to get a work day together in 2 weeks I will keep everyone posted when I know for sure.

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    Rode the Blue and Red trails last night, they were in great shape except for the usual wet spots (Blue trail near Ward Rd lot, low section of Blue near Hill Rd area, any field section with heavy horse traffic). Only rode the portion of the Red trail right along the reservoir due to time constraints but those trails usually drain pretty well because they're cut into the side of the hill.

    Dogwood trail was in pretty good shape too, except for the usual muddy spot where it crosses the wider horse trail and some standing water on one of the rocky sections where the shape of the trail doesn't let it run out.

    I would definitely stay off the wider horse paths through the fields in the near future, but I try to avoid them at all times really. In 7 years I've never seen them worth riding, always a muddy mess or they have 6 inch deep hoof prints baked into them.
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    Road the blue trail from ward rd. to hill rd. and back I was surprised at how good the conditions were. The first section was messy as usual but I am hopeful they will address that soon since the stone is sitting there. From there out it was great. I do believe that our volunteer group will be best used in the ravines and technical sections cleaning up the drops and providing erosion control and providing water run off.
    More wet weather on the way but it was nice to get out today!

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    looking to ride green lane sometime this summer, Where is the good spot to park?

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    Both lots are off Knight Rd, one at Knight and Ward rd the other near 29 on Knight Rd. If you're going around the reservoir I think counterclockwise is probably the best way to go.
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    We got out for a hike and some trail work today as expected it was pretty wet. My 7 year old rode while we hiked and had a great time with the snow. I like starting at the 29/knight rd. lot and going all the way around however somedays we ride from the house and climb up to hill rd. and start there. Either way there are some trade offs, jammin I will keep you posted we are looking to start week night rides when everything dries out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    We got out for a hike and some trail work today as expected it was pretty wet. My 7 year old rode while we hiked and had a great time with the snow. I like starting at the 29/knight rd. lot and going all the way around however somedays we ride from the house and climb up to hill rd. and start there. Either way there are some trade offs, jammin I will keep you posted we are looking to start week night rides when everything dries out.
    Sounds good, always looking for more people to ride with.

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    Was out there today, Red and blue in good shape except the usual spots. There was a guy on upper blue clearing trees with a chainsaw, its mostly clear just a couple spots with trees down.

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    We were out yesterday and rode the blue to the red all the way around I thought the trails were in excellent shape. The park has almost completed cutting the down trees and it sounds like they are getting help from some others. I am planning on getting a day together soon to work in some of the ravine areas to clean them up. As nice as it was it's ashame we had this rain.

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    The trails have been in such great shape lately! Im so glad I live two miles away. And to thnk I wasted my time and drove to nox. that place is the worst. Keep up the good work GLP!

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    Red trail & Dogwood were in good shape last night. The trails in the woods up on the hillside directly across from the Knight Road lot were in great shape too.

    The section between Red Hill rd and Markley Rd on the other side of Knight was in pretty rough shape. Got out of there pretty quick but a few spots were real muddy, if/when it dries its gonna be tough going for a while because of the ruts.
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    Blue trail was good as well last night very few wet spots and almost the entire trail is clear with a few exceptions. Broke my chain not once but twice so it slowed us down a bit but it was a good night.

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    The trail was pretty dry today, except for a few spots. I noticed the improved trail markers also which were a nice touch.

    I rode the red trail and blue trail today and then jumped on the perkiomen trail to head back to Knight rode parking lot.

    What section of the blue trail is off limits to bikes? I seen a sign for it after I crossed Hill road into the horse parking lot.
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    We rode yesterday as well and the trails were in great shape. The new markings are a result of some past confusion, we walked the trail one day with the trail supervisor and identified where we think the trails should go I am sure we may need to change a few spots but I think it is better then it was. The only section where the blue trail is off limits is from the hill rd. day use area along hill rd. until you reach the section where it crosses the road. I am also optimistic that this area will be open to bikes again in the near future.

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    The trail markers were clutch! I didn't even know about the portion of the blue trail by the boat launch/dock area. I usually pedaled up the paved rode to Hill rd.

    I was riding my green Cotic, but I did see the guy on the Salsa also.
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    I am planning on working on the blue trail tomorrow around 1 if anyone is interested in lending a hand. I have a bunch of tools and would like to get some work done in the ravines since the trails are to wet for riding right now. Send me a pm if your interested in helping tomorrow.
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    We were able to get in and get some work done today. The two ravines from swinging bridge towards ward are in pretty good shape now as we were able to fill in the up-rooted tree balls and grade them out. The areas may see some settling but I figure we can go in and fix it up as needed. I will post future work days as they are set.

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    Rode the loop tonight and the trails are in great shape, very few wet spots and the ravines are riding a lot smoother. The first section from ward. Rd. has lost some of its luster with all of the stone they added but at least it is dry now and it gets you in to the good sections without the mess. We will continue to do more work in the ravines and hopefully open up some more trails on the upper blue.

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Good conditions today considering the amount of rain we got on Saturday. I rode red and blue trails. Usual spots weT, beginning of blue trail stays dry after all the gravel though (kinda boring now but beats waiting a week+ to dry out). Upper blue trail had some muddy spots, suspect the other side of Knight Rd is messy too. Trails by the reservoir were great though, should recover relatively quickly if it rains tomorrow considering the shape theyre in and the temps expected.
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    I have only rode up there once, Looking to do a morning ride saturday. Was thinking of hitting here or french creek. Are the trails pretty easy to follow and get back to the lot? not looking to get lost.

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Easier to get lost the farther you get from reservoir. But if you stay close to the water should be fine. I think there's maps at the Knight Rd trailhead.

    To close the loop around water or get to the orange trail you can use the perkiomen trail.
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    I am working with the park to organize a trail work day on Saturday June 1st, from
    8-11 the goal is to identify a few areas and dial them in that day. Today I went out and identified a few areas and depending on the number of volunteers we get that day. I have spoken with a few of you about the day and I am passing the word on to the local bike shops, please get the word out to anyone you know that might be interested in helping that day. Overall the trails looked good today but the rain this week may keep us off for a little bit.

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    Going to try and make this one, Any tools needed? i have access to alot of stuff.

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    I was able to get out and do some work today on the orange trail which is located right at the park off of Snyder road. For those of you not familiar with this trail it is a nice short loop that doesn't get much attention but it is a great area to do some laps in after work. There are a few wet spots out there right now but I am hoping to get some drainage issues fixed in there. I rode the orange tonight and it needs some clean up but it is very rideable .

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    I was able to get out and do some work today on the orange trail which is located right at the park off of Snyder road. For those of you not familiar with this trail it is a nice short loop that doesn't get much attention but it is a great area to do some laps in after work. There are a few wet spots out there right now but I am hoping to get some drainage issues fixed in there. I rode the orange tonight and it needs some clean up but it is very rideable .
    That is great news and THANK YOU for your trail work. Highly appreciated!

    Also, any updates on the red and blue sections?
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    I didn't ride the red or blue this week but I assumed it might be wet at spots, the plan is to start getting some more riding days in. I will post any updates.
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    Hey all - I live down closer to Philly, but saw that I can take the Schuylkill/Perkiomen trail all the way up to Green Lane, so it would be a great training ride. How long of a loop can be put together once I get up there? Is there maybe something in the 10 mile range of easy/moderate difficulty? I would probably want to skip the really advanced stuff (I guess that is a relative term) given how long of a total ride it will be.

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    If you do the red / blue loop it ends up right around 10 miles. Nothing too advanced, orange is the only place with any real chunk. I live really close to the midpoint of the Perkiomen trail so find myself riding it a lot. Its kind of a drag on my singlespeed but it does seem to help me get better at spinning (and also makes sure I'm warmed up by the time I get to the singletrack at either end).
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    Thanks - that sounds like the way to go then. I am looking at 23 miles from my door to the trailhead, and the same home...so yeah, should be nice and warmed up by then!

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    Can you pickup the single track right off the Perk trail? Or do you need to ride the road some?

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Perk trail can get you to blue, or up to red via 'green lane connector'
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    I only rode the Perk trail to Green lane near the lake once. Is it near there?

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Yeah you can ride across the dam and pick up on the other side. Generally speaking left turn gets you to blue and right gets you to red.
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    Ok cool, Never been across the Dam, we use to run our RC crawlers on the rocks in the small lot near the office. will have to check it out. The parking lot across the road from the lake, I think i see some trails go up the hill from the lot, are they rideable to? i never checked them out.

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Think that is orange you're thinking of. Chunky (for me on rigid bikes anyway) but very rideable. Only a few miles but great change of pace.
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    Sounds good, I'm down near Phoenixville. I may have to ride up the Perk and check it out. I only rode green lane many many years ago and we parked at some little gravel lot and rode on some little dirt rode through a field back to the trails.

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    The Perk trail will get you right to orange trail however as alexcuse said it is not in the best shape as we are trying to get a plan together for it. The blue trail starts up the hill to the equestrian camp and then follows across hill rd. and along hill rd. until you reach the day use area up there. Hopefully that helps.

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    I actually really like the rocks on orange but haven't been on it since we got all that rain. Since its always wet anyways could see it becoming a bog.

    I can probably give a tour (including how to connect to perk) if you can tolerate a slow single speeder. I like both ways but prefer riding up the paved climb on perk (runs right along 29) and doing red first, then crossing Knight Rd bridge and taking blue back.
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    I rode the perk up from valley forge on Sunday, then did maybe a half mile or so on the orange before calling it quits due to mud and potential trail daageI can see it being a fun dry trail, but I am not a fan of smooth, wet, mossy rocks all jumbled together.


    What about all that singletrack alongside the perk? As I approached valley green, I noticed some pretty nice looking trails diverting off every so often. Looked like private land at first glance...

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