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    Sorry for being MIA lately things have finally settled down a little on my end and I have been able to get a few rides in. Last week I walked the orange section that was abandoned after sandy with the trail supervisor and we came up with a plan to fix some areas and re-route a few others. Wednesday we will be marking out the new section of trails so that the maintenance crew can come through and do the ground work. Once the trail is set I will start going through and looking for issues, I will also try to post days when maybe we can work on the tread a little not now when the conditions are great for riding. My hopes for the orange is that we can create a few fast loops with some technical sections for days when we don't have time for the entire loop. I would also like to get it to a point where people can bring their kids to get them started with mountain biking.
    I plan to head out tomorrow morning and ride the blue loop from ward to hill and back, one of my favorites. Thanks to the locals that have been keeping up on the trail work!

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    The blue is in sad shape at the moment, the storm that came through a few Fridays ago made a mess. With any luck I'll get a free night later in the week, and if I can get a second set of hands may be we can attack some of it. But there are some VERY shady trees broken between ward and the 1st ravine. There are a few leaners between red hill and markley roads north of Knight that need to go. The Dogwood is in SEVERE need of pruning. I may get some free time this weekend, if I do I'll try to get some more work done over there.
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    I got some free time tonight. Headed out and took the one nasty leaner out in the cedars between Red Hill and Markley roads. There was another leaner that wasn't blocking the trail flow but had the dreaded cedar "spikes" sticking out of it. I cleaned all the spikes off the lower 6 feet and left it. Walked in Honeysuckle to red and cleaned up the branch down on red. Headed back out and met Btownrider at Ward Rd. We walked into blue and cleared the 2 trees between Ward and the 1st ravine. The 2nd one was a bit tricky, it rolled weird and had the saw pinched good, but we used some "levers" and got it freed to finish the job. From there we continued our walk in onto the upper blue, and cleared the one on top of the pile, and "modified" the lower one a bit for clearance and left it for a logover. Can't wait to get out and ride it. Enjoy!

    If I wind up with some more time this weekend, I think I'm going to drag the weedwhacker up to Dogwood and give the raspberry bushes a trimming. FYI though, there are TONS of ripe and delicious raspberries up there.
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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Great work - I was hoping for a log over there, the bottom one looked perfect. Been missing the one that rotted out behind the Knight road lot.

    Thanks for all the work you guys are doing - trails at GLP are in the best shape I've ever seen them lately.
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    Nice job guys!
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    Well done gentlemen! I rode the loop today and was pretty happy with the general tread throughout. I believe the spots that you guys "maintained" tonight were the main issues. I cleared one area up near hill and there was one more between swinging bridge and hill that will need to be addressed at some point. I am marking out the new route for the orange tomorrow and also hoping to find time to weed whack the red. I will post any progress that I make. Felt great to get back out again today!

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    Hit the full loop along with the "new" orange areas with TEAMGLP and Btownrider today. Everything is in great shape, and everything is rideable, all trees that couldn't be made into logovers are clear! The new orange route is fun, and just as difficult as the old orange but more sustainable, and there's a big rock jump. See what the weather brings tomorrow, but judging by the bike racks on cars at the Knight rd lot, there were a lot of people out enjoying the trails today.
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    Your volunteered trail maintenance is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

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    Those of you that ride the orange trail know that many of the trails struggle with erosion problems at multiple places. Last week I walked the orange with the county trail supervisor and came up with a plan to incorporate some of the existing trails and also cut some new trails to make the loops sustainable. The secondary goal was to use the entire park footprint and add some distance to the loops.

    The section directly behind the parking lot at Deep Creek and Snyder is in decent shape so my focus has been on the other side. Today I finished rough cutting a loop that connects the original orange that was not being used to a point near the upper gas line. The trails are marked with orange surveyors tape and makes the first portion of the loop. I was hoping to have the rest of the loop cut by Friday but I blew the head of my weed whacker apart as I was finishing up. If you are riding that area in the next few days or weeks please ride the trail that I cut if you find it, the more traffic we get on it the better idea we will have on the layout. I tried to follow the contours and use the space, please feel free to let me know if you have any thoughts or ideas about the trail. This is our first real test with the county and cutting new trails of significance so I want it to go smoothly.
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    I got some free time to use up tonight, and I've rode the past two days, so I decided to go out for a little clean up work. I gassed up the weedwacker and headed up to Dogwood. First off, I cannot believe how dry it was after last nights storms. Unreal. one perpetual wet spot, that I opened up a bushwhacked reroute on. For those that haven't hit the Dogwood recently, the trail was almost completely overgrown with raspberries in places. I got about 80% nicely done before the sky went dark, the rest I just hustled out and tried to get the worst stuff, but you can tell I was rushing. I'll get up there and finish the rest sometime, but I think you can at least ride the trail without bleeding, unless you crash. Enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    I think you can at least ride the trail without bleeding, unless you crash. Enjoy.
    Did you cut down those moving trees that jump out at you? Apparently TEAMGLP and I have found a rare breed on Saturday morning!

    TEAMGLP, rode that trail in with a few hot laps of new and old orange on the other side of the road. Awesome, awesome, awesome! Great work. This may be a great after work ride as it is short and punishing and you can loop it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Btownrider View Post
    Did you cut down those moving trees that jump out at you? Apparently TEAMGLP and I have found a rare breed on Saturday morning!
    I left them because it's funny to watch you crash. And they don't jump out at me!
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    Green Lane trail conditions

    Hey guys in new to the area..
    I stay in Schwenksville‎.
    If it hasn't been coverd. Can some explain the GreenLane color coding?
    I ran into some orange today just riding the Perkiomen trail.
    I'm trying to get more info on GreenLane & maybe meet up & ride with anyone else that's down too.
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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Red, blue and orange are all open to bikes. There are a couple non color trails also.

    Red runs along the north side of the reservoir. Mostly buff/flat with some roots.

    Blue runs along the south side of the reservoir and has a lot of loose rocks and climbing. Some fun technical ravines too.

    Orange is a smaller loop and has some nice chunky rock sections.

    I think there is probably close to 20 miles of trail open to bikes in the park. I usually ride up the perk trail (i live off township line road right before you get to schwenksville) and do red/blue loop, and orange/dogwood/cedars if I've got time. Planning to head up Sunday morning if you'd like a tour.

    Bikesport used to do a group ride from the Knight rd parking lot closest to 29 on Sundays at 9, not sure if that is still going.
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    Green Lane trail conditions

    Thanks Alex & yes I would like the tour Sunday.

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    Racerx alexcuse is right on with his description. There is a plan in place between us and the park to have a easily mapped loop around the resivour for visitors. With that in mind there are spots like you posted where the orange is blacked out where they have redirected the trail, unfortunately sometimes they don't always get the marks right so the process continues. There are more trails (i.e. Upper blue, dogwood, cedars) that may not be mapped but we will continue to maintain them, some of them are in need of work at this point as we have been spending some time on the orange loop down at the park. Keep me posted on rides as I am out of town this week but should be back to riding next week.

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    Green Lane trail conditions

    Thanks TEAMGLP
    & if you & alexcuse need any help let me know.
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    Red trail was in *perfect* condition today - didn't even get muddy coming up to the lot by the Knight Rd bridge.

    Unfortunately snapped my chain before I got too far into blue
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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Riding at 9 from the Deep Creek/Snyder lot if anyone wants to join. Looking forward to checking out the orange reroutes.
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    Who the hell cut out the log over on blue trail before second ravine crossing??!! I mean come on someone already built a little ramp up and over. Isn't that easy enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Btownrider View Post
    Who the hell cut out the log over on blue trail before second ravine crossing??!! I mean come on someone already built a little ramp up and over. Isn't that easy enough?
    The ramp made it real easy. I sure didn't cut it out because carrying the saw back that far sucked the first time, and if you think I was going to do it again you're nuts. Maybe the park did it? Be curious to see if that nightmare tree on "green" was handled too. That'd be a dead ringer for the park having done it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    The ramp made it real easy. I sure didn't cut it out because carrying the saw back that far sucked the first time, and if you think I was going to do it again you're nuts. Maybe the park did it? Be curious to see if that nightmare tree on "green" was handled too. That'd be a dead ringer for the park having done it.
    I knew it wasn't you. You can appreciate a challenge. Plus I wasn't there to carry the saw. The widow maker on green is still there so I'm not sure it was the park.

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    the one thing GLP needs more of is log over's (fine maybe a skinny or two).

    What is the "green" trail?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexCuse View Post
    the one thing GLP needs more of is log over's (fine maybe a skinny or two).

    That's what I'm saying!

    What is the "green" trail?
    Double secret on this one. You will have to ride with us!

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Suppose I will

    This month is crazy for me but post here if you plan any weekend rides and I'll try to make it work.
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    I was able to get out on the blue tonight for a loop and the trails were in great shape! In my opinion this is the best time of year to get out and tonight didn't disappoint. The only area that needs attention is the upper blue off the hill rd access, this is an area that we cleared in the spring but doesn't get ridden often. If you are looking for a fun technical loop the blue out and back is great. I also think we have received some assistance with trail maintenance up there so whoever is putting in the time up there, thank you!

    I have been riding the orange trail at nights and everything is in great shape there as well with the exception of one hanger that came down last week. I am in the process of clearing a path around it at this point. The second portion of the orange loop that is getting cut will have to wait for bad weather because at this point when I am out I am riding. Get out and enjoy it!

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    Hit the trails in the dark tonight, and the conditions are fantastic. Get out and ride!
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    I agree. Green lane has gone from a place I would ride occasionally and often be disappointed with to a place that I really like and look forward to ridding. Just a nice fun place to ride now. Being able to ride the blue to the orange and loop it all around without having to ride the road is just fantastic!
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    Amen! Just had the same conversation this weekend as we were climbing up to the equestrian lot on the blue. Hoping to add more flowy sections to the orange in the near future just don't want to give up riding time right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    Amen! Just had the same conversation this weekend as we were climbing up to the equestrian lot on the blue. Hoping to add more flowy sections to the orange in the near future just don't want to give up riding time right now.
    I agree. Green lane is such a wonderful place. I really think places like Green lane and Nox are great examples of what can be done when park officials and mountain bikers work together. It is important to note that it is not just mountain bikers that benefit, but the whole community. I see tons of runners and walkers on those trails and they all comment how great these trails are (both at Green lane and Nox). These are great times for the Suburban philly crowd!
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    I've been wantin to check these out for a while now since my girlfriend lives in Lansdale.

    Quick question to anyone familiar. How is this during the week during archery? Hunting allowed I assume. Not really in the area on Sundays but don't wanna run into many hunters. Tyia

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    There might be controlled hunts from time to time but pretty sure hunting is not allowed in any Montgomery County parks. In 8 years I've never seen a hunter there, thats for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexCuse View Post
    There might be controlled hunts from time to time but pretty sure hunting is not allowed in any Montgomery County parks. In 8 years I've never seen a hunter there, thats for sure.
    Thanks. Not from that area so wasnt sure

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    No hunting on the GLP trails, as a matter of fact we saw 2 guys escorted out last year one day. A few of the trails border property lines and you may see tree stands but I have never had any issues. As always in archery I try to wear bright colors, get out and ride the trails are great right now. Heading out on the orange in 5 minutes!

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    Went back on a fatbike again, but this time it was my own. Managed to keep the chain intact this time and ride most of blue. Perfect conditions as usual - the rain last week seems to have helped.
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    I really like ridding at Green lane but am noticing with the nice weather, it is packed on the weekends! The gully crossings on the blue section, which I live for, were full of people on Sunday. One guy was having lunch right in the middle, with his GF and two pit-bulls! I actually told him that with the two dogs, he pretty much can do as he pleases and he laughed but I don't think he really got my joke…

    Anyway, Green lane truly has become a jewel. Now how do we get rid of the walkers? (:
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    As much as I hate to say it you know the story about the early bird. We have been getting out around 8 the past few weekends and have not run in to a lot of traffic on the entire loop. The conditions and weather have been great and I can't blame people for getting out there, lunch in the middle of the trail is a little over the top though! On a side note we rode Bear Creek Sunday and it was fantastic as always, makes you realize your not in as good as shape as you thought. I am trying to make Friday afternoons around 3 a ride time if anyone is interested, great way to start the weekend.

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    We've found a way to beat the traffic....................Ride it in the dark! 3 of us did the full loop tonight in the dark and it was awesome, just a bit cold. Trails are very dry and fast, but the leaf cover is absolutely horrible, lots of hidden rocks. I came into the railroad tie switchback on Honeysuckle pretty hot and found a rock under the leaves, resulting in me rolling down the hill without the bike. Luckily I managed to not mash my light. Encountered tons of deer...........................and jumped a skunk behind the trailer park, made for some fun breathing up the climb.................
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    I forgot how fun that place is, good ride tonight fella's!
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    Planning to roll from Ward Rd lot around 6 tomorrow if anyone wants to meet up. Going to start with blue and try to talk my friends into hitting orange before we circle back to red.
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    Just got back from a couple loops on the orange. It was slick. Wet cleats, wet rocks, wet roots, with wet leaves on top of all of that slowed the pace down a little. I actually did a little trail work while I was out tonight, I'm amazed at how quickly that tread has set in down there and can't wait to get the next section done. With a crazy schedule it's nice to be able to ride out the back door and get some time in.
    The trails are real dry right now, as much as I hate to say it a little rain would be good for the trails

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    I rode blue then red tonight, everything was in terrific shape. Wet leaves upped the degree of difficulty significantly on blue - my friend hadn't ridden for a while so we skipped orange figuring it would be more slippery.

    Hoping to go back Thursday and ride orange - I haven't ridden it in forever, want to check out some of the new bits

    I was thinking back to a ride right after hurricane sandy where I think we spent more time sawing than we did riding. That was as bad as I've ever seen the trails, but I think it served as a catalyst to really get things moving in the right direction. A lot of its weather I'm sure but the trails have truly been better this year than I can ever remember, to the point that I think they rival French Creek. I haven't seen the perennial mud bog as you approach the lot across from dogwood all year I don't think. Unfortunately as mentioned above it seems the secret is out, and the crowds are moving in. But more traffic should help keep things nice Thanks again for the great work!
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    I couldn't agree more, I grew up riding these trails on my first rigid mountain bike. I was just getting back into riding when Sandy rolled through and hammered the GLP loop and like alexcuse said kept us off the bike more then on it. At that point I was not aware of any volunteers working on the trails and took the time to meet with the park as a concerned rider. Fortunately for all of us timing was everything the park was more then willing to start a working relationship on their trail system. All of that being said I have simply been a liaison between riders and the park. Fortunately we have a good group of riders and some hikers that don't mind working for the benefit of others and keep the trails open even before the park identifies the problem. THANK YOU EVERYONE!
    We are getting there and the main trail system is in good shape. I am looking to finish the orange re-route this fall and then explore some other options. I know I haven't had a chance to get out and meet everyone but I look forward to working and riding with everyone in the future! Thanks again to ALL of you that ride and take time to look after the trails.

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    Got out again tonight, even with yesterdays rain the trails are still extremely dry. Only found 1 tiny puddle. We rode red and dogwood tonight, everything was fast and fun. Cleared one small tree in the cedars between 29 and red hill road. Saw a couple other bikers but traffic wasn't too bad. The leaf cover is just as bad in the daylight as it was at night.
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    Ferguson keep an eye out on the red when you are up there. My brother was riding yesterday afternoon and said the upper connector trail we cut with you guys last year to keep us out of the mud had brush deliberately thrown on it every 10 feet. He did see a person before hand that he thought looked out of place but didn't see him after. He threw everything well down the hillside there and it is open again. That trail is well inside the park boundaries so I am not sure why someone would do that. Just an FYI glad you guys are getting out, we will have to meet up again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    Ferguson keep an eye out on the red when you are up there. My brother was riding yesterday afternoon and said the upper connector trail we cut with you guys last year to keep us out of the mud had brush deliberately thrown on it every 10 feet. He did see a person before hand that he thought looked out of place but didn't see him after. He threw everything well down the hillside there and it is open again. That trail is well inside the park boundaries so I am not sure why someone would do that. Just an FYI glad you guys are getting out, we will have to meet up again!
    Will keep my eyes peeled. Have not noticed anything odd up there, honestly we haven't been running that trail since the ground is so dry and the mud hasn't been an issue. There is a leaner up there that needs addressed, the tree can stay as it leans away from the trail, but it's got a nasty root sticking up that Btownrider clipped his foot on hard. It pokes out into the trail just enough. It should be able to be handled with a large pair of loppers or a bow saw.

    Did notice there appears to be a new or possibly "revived" trail between Red hill road and Markley road. Weeds look like they were freshly raked away. There are older trails in that section ripe for reopening. We will have to catch up for a ride again, my schedule has been tough lately so most of the time I just go on a whim, or we go at night.
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    Just got off the red and cedars and they were in better shape then i thought. After the rain yesterday I thought it would be questionable but I didn't see one standing puddle. To be honest with you my bike didn't even get dirty. A lot of leaves so watch yourselves in the corners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    Just got off the red and cedars and they were in better shape then i thought. After the rain yesterday I thought it would be questionable but I didn't see one standing puddle. To be honest with you my bike didn't even get dirty. A lot of leaves so watch yourselves in the corners.
    That is crazy. I may try to hit it tomorrow or Saturday. Great news!
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    Was out after work today for a quick and unfortunately had to clear off the section trail that my brother cleared last week. I double checked my route on the gps and we are clearly on the park land so I am not sure what the issue is. Whoever is doing it spent some time to drag debris on the trail. Assuming it must be a hunter that doesn't want us near a tree stand however I have yet to meet him. I always try to take the high road but this can't continue. Otherwise the trails were in good shape. Please keep me posted if you guys see anymore trail issues.

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    That is interesting. I have not been out for 2 weeks, been sick and it sucks. I'll let my brother know to keep an eye out, he rides more after work than I do. But at this point I'm sure this person isn't friendly and should be avoided rather than questioned by civilians. But if I happen across it I'm sure I'll run my mouth like normal.

    Is it possible to ask Rich to have that specific section of park area border posted? I'd volunteer the time to hang, and even a couple bucks if needed for the signs.................
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