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    Quote Originally Posted by Btownrider View Post
    Walked blue starting at ward road through to about the 4th ravine crossing. Took upper blue (which was a wet disaster as usual) to the lower blue and back to ward road. Lower blue was in excellent condition once you got past a few wet spots before the water crossing at swinging bridge. A tree that was laying across trail also disappeared. It was the bow saw bandit!
    Has the park handled the trees that TEAMGLP said were down between ward rd and the 1st ravine?

    The bow saw bandit sure is one ambitious guy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    Has the park handled the trees that TEAMGLP said were down between ward rd and the 1st ravine?

    The bow saw bandit sure is one ambitious guy!
    I handled one tree but the 6 trees toppled over on each other was a bit too much for me. I did cut down part of a mess just so that a guy on a bike would fit under it. Maybe people on horses can't get through....ooooops!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Btownrider View Post
    I handled one tree but the 6 trees toppled over on each other was a bit too much for me. I did cut down part of a mess just so that a guy on a bike would fit under it. .
    Are these trees substantial in size? I'll see if I can't get something to happen, but I'd rather see the person going in to handle it only take the minimum required equipment. He said hiking with a 14 pound saw sucks.........................
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    Are these trees substantial in size? I'll see if I can't get something to happen, but I'd rather see the person going in to handle it only take the minimum required equipment. He said hiking with a 14 pound saw sucks.........................
    Well it's only about a football fields distance in. As long as the guy can be sneaky, it shouldn't be too bad. If he needs an accomplice the bow saw bandit may be able to arrange something.

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    Looks like we are in for 3 days of rain this weekend and since we can't ride maybe we can knockout some more trail work. I am looking at getting a crew together to work on the section of blue that was opened up last year. The section that goes from Hill rd. to the equestrian camp was opened up but we have never cleaned it up so I would like to get it done before everything grows in. Post here or PM me and let me know if your interested I am thinking maybe the afternoon but that could change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    Looks like we are in for 3 days of rain this weekend and since we can't ride maybe we can knockout some more trail work. I am looking at getting a crew together to work on the section of blue that was opened up last year. The section that goes from Hill rd. to the equestrian camp was opened up but we have never cleaned it up so I would like to get it done before everything grows in. Post here or PM me and let me know if your interested I am thinking maybe the afternoon but that could change.
    I may have some time................Let me know when you want to go at it. Just try to make it a bit more than an hour in advance...................................Need to get some framing done in the master bath so drywall can go in next week. A project I can't wait to be done with. But I'm crossing my fingers the forecasters are wrong and it'll be 60 and sunny and we can continue to ride..............................
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    I'm crossing my fingers the forecasters are wrong and it'll be 60 and sunny and we can continue to ride..............................
    Ill drink to that!!! I am also available til noon on Saturday and all day Sunday. Remember gents I'm on stay-cation all week next week so lets ride!

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    So I walked the blue trail from Ward Rd in to the first ravine tonight. It's pretty sloppy still, but all the trees have been cleared. Someone beat me to it. When i got there, a ranger was in the lot, so I left the tree remover in the car. Happily, it wasn't necessary. Thanks to whoever got it done!
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    Anyone able to comment on conditions, getting close to ride-able? thanks

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    After last nights rain it is going to wet for a few days but I think most of the loop will be rideable this weekend. Warm weather and winds like today get the red trail dry quickly, some sections on the blue side may need more time. As always use common sense and avoid the wet areas when possible. Won't be long until we can get some full loop rides in, all trails are clear to my knowledge except for the Hill rd. to equestrian camp blue section that was opened last year. We did a quick scan of that area and it looks pretty bad, lots of big trees down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    After last nights rain it is going to wet for a few days but I think most of the loop will be rideable this weekend. Warm weather and winds like today get the red trail dry quickly, some sections on the blue side may need more time. As always use common sense and avoid the wet areas when possible. Won't be long until we can get some full loop rides in, all trails are clear to my knowledge except for the Hill rd. to equestrian camp blue section that was opened last year. We did a quick scan of that area and it looks pretty bad, lots of big trees down.
    Wow, that would be amazing. I generally don't even think about hitting green lane unless we are in a drought. But it sounds like things have improved enough to make it ridable under normal type weather situations.
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    For the last couple years it has been pretty OK on the red side outside the odd time it gets completely wrecked by horses. Blue really started to get better when Dan got involved with the park after Sandy. The entrance by Ward rd is homogenized and boring now, but at least it is rideable outside drought conditions

    I rode past on the Knight road Sunday and saw a guy loading up his bike at the lot across from the climb up to dogwood. Actually looked pretty clean, despite the giant mud pit on red approaching that lot. Things seem to be recovering from the winter faster than I'd expected. Can't wait to get back up there.
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    That section by the lot at markley road lot is a mess, we have been bypassing that cedar run because of that area by the lot. For those of you that head up to the dogwood look around last fall we added a section that allows you to make some loops around, it is by no means perfect but the more it gets ridden the better it will be.

    The blue is tough to judge by the weather, there may still be pockets of snow in there with the way the shoreline dips in and out. I agree w alexcuse the first part of the blue lost some character but it is nice to be able to get in there without getting muddy. Drainage has been one of our biggest priorities, simple diversions at key locations has helped eliminate the big wet spots. We are looking to ride this weekend if it doesn't rain, I need to start logging some miles or my bike won't hold me anymore!

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    I've been riding full loop clockwise and counter clockwise already. Only spot that is a concern on blue is the sanitized ward rd to the first water crossing. It's just not draining well at all. Rest of the trail is fantastic. Let me know when you're riding this weekend. I'm in!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Btownrider View Post
    I've been riding full loop clockwise and counter clockwise already. Only spot that is a concern on blue is the sanitized ward rd to the first water crossing. It's just not draining well at all. Rest of the trail is fantastic. Let me know when you're riding this weekend. I'm in!!
    Are you saying that Green lane is ridable, now? I usually start on the Knights road parking lot (the last one before the bridge) and go over to the blue (off of hill road) and ride around to the bridge area near Knights road. You think that is ridable?
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    Use your best judgement if its a messy disaster, but I will be riding.

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    Best idea is to give it a few days after a normal rain. We had a wet winter so I urge everyone to be patient until we get a week of dry weather. No doubt there are sections that are rideable but I am sure others are a mud pit. No sense tracking it up now or they will compare us to the equestrians. On a side note bear creek has a tendency to dry faster then anywhere around in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    On a side note bear creek has a tendency to dry faster then anywhere around in my opinion.
    So what time are we riding BC Saturday?

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    Rode pretty much the entire park today. Trails were in great shape except one stretch on the upper blue trail, maybe 10 spots on orange and the usual 2 spots on dogwood (the approach to the lot across the street also). Red trail was especially nice.
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    Hit GLP for a short ride tonight before the rain came through. The trails I rode were in great shape and fast. Went out with a mission to do some pruning on Honeysuckle, there was one point where the trail drops down toward the water fast then makes a sweeping turn back up the hill, but the inside of the turn has tons of rose hanging in the trail making leaning the bike almost impossible without bloodshed. That's all fixed now! The thunder started to crack as I finished pruning, and I bombed back to the truck. I had a fun, fast ride, first time hitting GLP since ditching the front derailleur and going to a 30T narrow wide. Rode the cedars before I went to honeysuckle and the conditions up there were great also. Glad to see the log over up in the cedars has been left alone, and seems to be getting more stable. That tree killed the flow and we couldn't move it, so we made it rideable.
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    Green Lane trail conditions

    Rode the blue and red trails for the first time yesterday as a bonus in the middle of my perkiomen there-and-back from betzwood. The blue was a bit more challenging than I expected. I didn't have the stones or energy to charge the stream crossings, and there were a couple trees down, but overall really cool trails.

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    I know there is one big tree down on the blue, that is in a bad place to get to. I don't really remember where it was, other than right out of either the 3rd or 4th ravine from Ward Rd, I'd almost have to ride in to figure out where it is again and what the best route would be to get to it with 14# of tree remover. I think walking on off swinging bridge rd would be best but not sure if I'd get heckled for parking there..............

    If someone is out there and could record the coordinates of the tree that would help get it removed.............................
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    Anybody know if green lane is ridable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    Anybody know if green lane is ridable?
    It's better than ever. Place drains a lot better than you think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Btownrider View Post
    It's better than ever. Place drains a lot better than you think.
    Cool! For a little variety, I think I will hit Green Lane today before more rains come.
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    Yesterday was bone dry!
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Ro View Post
    Yesterday was bone dry!
    Well, for the most part. The little area up across the street from the knights road parking lot (the lot before the bridge) was dry in some areas and crappy in others. Lots of trees down - every 10 feet which made it rough. The red trail, aside from that was in great shape. Just road around there and did not hit the blue trail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    Well, for the most part. The little area up across the street from the knights road parking lot (the lot before the bridge) was dry in some areas and crappy in others. Lots of trees down - every 10 feet which made it rough. The red trail, aside from that was in great shape. Just road around there and did not hit the blue trail.
    That spot is always an issue. Don't even much worry about it anymore. I am very interested in where these down trees are. I thought we had all of those resolved, and Btownrider hit it Saturday, and didn't mention anything when we rode elsewhere sunday. I know the blue has a few down, but red is news to me, can you give locations?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    That spot is always an issue. Don't even much worry about it anymore. I am very interested in where these down trees are. I thought we had all of those resolved, and Btownrider hit it Saturday, and didn't mention anything when we rode elsewhere sunday. I know the blue has a few down, but red is news to me, can you give locations?
    If you turn down Knights road from Rt. 29, park in the second parking lot on the left. It is the lot before the bridge crossing. Right across Knights road is a trail going up the hill. Go up that hill and enter the trails up there. If you take the long loop around that area (going clockwise) you will go right at the top of the hill, and climb a bit before going down again. If you eventually turn back to the left to go along the water, you will hit the trees. They are down every 10-15 feet. Make sense?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    If you turn down Knights road from Rt. 29, park in the second parking lot on the left. It is the lot before the bridge crossing. Right across Knights road is a trail going up the hill. Go up that hill and enter the trails up there. If you take the long loop around that area (going clockwise) you will go right at the top of the hill, and climb a bit before going down again. If you eventually turn back to the left to go along the water, you will hit the trees. They are down every 10-15 feet. Make sense?
    It does. I have never been back there though. We went up on top, but never found those trails along the water, though I did know they exist. Were these trees huge? Guess I need to do some more exploring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    It does. I have never been back there though. We went up on top, but never found those trails along the water, though I did know they exist. Were these trees huge? Guess I need to do some more exploring.
    Those trails are not the most exciting but there are some nice spots to add a mile or so to the ride. The trees are large - at least 10-12 are down. At an almost even spacing. Very odd actually.

    Go up that hill and turn left. Keep following the trail and you will start hitting the trees.
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    I'm hoping the rain turns out to be minor..........................Most of my riding buddies will be out of town this weekend, and I need to drive to Charlotte, NC Sunday. Looking to ride GLP before I hit the road. Anyone interested in an early(ish) Sunday full loop ride? Rob and Dan, I'll text you. Anybody else?
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    Green Lane trail conditions

    Plan on riding blue in Green Lane this week. Pre- Sandy I would park at the lot right after the bridge head to the trails. Once I went over the little rocky river section I would bang a left and a right up a rocky climb and follow the upper Blue until I hit a dirt road at which point I would turn right go past a gate up a paved road and hit a left trail head to continue on. Post Sandy that "left" trail head became un-rideable due to down trees. Is the trail still there? Abandoned? Just curious as I prepare to ride there this week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molasses View Post
    Plan on riding blue in Green Lane this week. Pre- Sandy I would park at the lot right after the bridge head to the trails. Once I went over the little rocky river section I would bang a left and a right up a rocky climb and follow the upper Blue until I hit a dirt road at which point I would turn right go past a gate up a paved road and hit a left trail head to continue on. Post Sandy that "left" trail head became un-rideable due to down trees. Is the trail still there? Abandoned? Just curious as I prepare to ride there this week.
    I believe it is still there, but don't know if it's been cleared any. I only looked for it once, and didn't find it. Staying on the lower blue is mostly good, there is one new tree down, but that's it, the rest is clear. Btownrider and I did the full loop this morning and the trails are in great shape, other than covered on the usual horse crap. But this weeks weather forecast looks bad. I'm out of town all week, but am going to make an attempt to take my "tree in the way" cure for a walk next weekend.
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    Green Lane trail conditions

    When you say complete loop do you mean blue to red? That might be cool just need to dig out the maps to see how it could be done. I used to loop upper blue to lower blue. I love this park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molasses View Post
    When you say complete loop do you mean blue to red? That might be cool just need to dig out the maps to see how it could be done. I used to loop upper blue to lower blue. I love this park.
    Yes, blue to red, or as we usually go red to blue. We usually start at the tennis courts off Green Lane Road, ride the Perk trail up the hill by the dam, follow the Perk trail to the red behind the old nature center/ trailer park. Follow the red along the water, cross Knight Rd, do the cedars, cross again onto honeysuckle/ red, follow that along the water to the bridge. Cross the bridge and ride the blue back to hill road. From there you can go out the blue thorough the equestrian camp and down the hill back to the car, or ride out the Hill road access driveway, cross Hill road and bomb down the gasline back to the perk trail and parking lot. The trail on the gasline has gotten washed out pretty bad and has lots of decent sized loose rocks to watch out for now though. That loop will get you around 12 miles. If you cross Knight road before the bridge, go up the hill to Dogwood you can get close to 15 out of it.
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    If anyone is able to update conditions Friday afternoon/evening it would be awesome. I'm going to be traveling down to the area this Saturday and plan to either ride Green Lane or just ride the Perk with my kids (which will require different bikes.) But it'll be completely contingent on what the iffy weather does the next three days. I'm 2 hours away so a little hard to judge.

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    Green Lane trail conditions

    My plans to ride are off as it is pretty wet but will post tomorrow if conditions change
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    I was hoping to go today after work. Too wet?

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    Is it even worth thinking about for sat the 14th? This weather is killing me. I only have time ride on weekends and the past weeks have been... soggy. Haven't been able to get to Nox either.

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    Rode all of red this afternoon prior to the flash flooding. Red Trails WERE good but I imagine they are pretty rough after that amount of rain. Don't even try blue. The first water crossing was at least knee high and flowing. May take the entire weekend for it to dry out and be able to cross the waters. I picked a shitty week to be off work!!

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    Green Lane trail conditions

    Thanks for the heads up. I'll just make it a gravel loop today on the CX bike


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    Btownrider and I took a couple of walks into the trails today with the downed tree remover.......................... The new one after the ravine on the blue that totally blocked the trail is gone. We also removed a few others on the upper blue and a couple other spots. Everything we walked was in good shape and dry enough to ride. The water flow at the ravines is higher than normal but the ones we looked at are manageable. We are going to go for it tomorrow, just use caution as there may be some localized wet spots.
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    Green Lane trail conditions

    Red was pretty well drained today but the stream crossing was on the deeper side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    Btownrider and I took a couple of walks into the trails today with the downed tree remover.......................... The new one after the ravine on the blue that totally blocked the trail is gone. We also removed a few others on the upper blue and a couple other spots. Everything we walked was in good shape and dry enough to ride. The water flow at the ravines is higher than normal but the ones we looked at are manageable. We are going to go for it tomorrow, just use caution as there may be some localized wet spots.
    Dude thank you for moving that massive flow killer at the ravine, that is one of the most diff sections to clear when there isn't a 50' Oak laying right down middle of it. Much love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chestercospinner View Post
    Dude thank you for moving that massive flow killer at the ravine, that is one of the most diff sections to clear when there isn't a 50' Oak laying right down middle of it. Much love.
    No problem. It had to be done and the park has proven time and time again they won't, or just take too long to do it. Cleared the tree easy Saturday, failed to clear it on the bike Sunday. Dammit. Next time.
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    Anybody know if GL is dry enough to ride? I know parts of the area got some bad storms but it seems to vary from location to location.
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    I'm maybe 8 miles south as the crow flies and didn't get a ton of rain yesterday. I'd expect the red trail at least to be in decent shape by tomorrow afternoon at the latest. I'm planning to ride there Sunday so if anyone finds out otherwise in the meantime I'd love to know
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    Green Lane was super dry today. Horse traffic was also high today. Unfortunately Friday night's storms brought down more trees. There's quite a few down on the blue, not too far in from Ward rd. There may have been a few smaller ones throughout, but blue was the worst.
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    Rode all of blue forwards and backwards. Same trees down between ward road and first ravine crossing. New double tree down between first and second crossing. Top tree needs to go. Love to see the bottom one stay to make a nice log over.
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