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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    . There is a leaner up there that needs addressed, the tree can stay as it leans away from the trail, but it's got a nasty root sticking up that Btownrider clipped his foot on hard. It pokes out into the trail just enough. It should be able to be handled with a large pair of loppers or a bow saw.
    I went out by myself today since I'm still not 100%, but I just wanted to ride. The above issue has been addressed! Props to whoever took care of it.

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    Was out after work today for a quick and unfortunately had to clear off the section trail that my brother cleared last week. I double checked my route on the gps and we are clearly on the park land so I am not sure what the issue is.
    This has not been addressed. I rode up there to check it and it was blocked at both ends. Seemed more half assed than what you had described prior, but still blocked off. I cleared it again and rode the trail. Are you positive it's not the park? Someone has clearly been up there, and a few other places I saw pushing brush back with a tractor.

    Also noted there is another trail that comes from the direction of route 29 that goes straight into it. Some log overs and other fun stuff, it's partially ridden in, but more riding would make it great.
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    Rode up there Friday and it was open, however passed a guy in a silver Tacoma with bow hunting stickers that seemed to give me a look on knight road. It's possible that he went up and did it after we went through Friday. We road Saturday and saw the guy in the skid steer pushing brush back, I did not talk to him but I let the park know he was up there. He didn't look like a park employee to me. There are some stakes on wide sections between the cedars, wondering if the equestrians aren't doing something up there. I will find out this week and keep you posted. Thanks for clearing that section again. Keep me posted when you are feeling better and we will get out!

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    I did see a father and son back there that were in the woods above the trail when I initially came in from 29. After I cleared the one end and rode back that new trail I found, they were on the (normal) trail near the ravine. Even with my obnoxious Hope freewheel behind them, they did not turn around, look at me or make any attempt to share the trail, I called out on your left and they split sides of the trail and the dad gave me a dirty look. I was looking for them when I cleared the far end of the trail but didn't see where they went. I should have rode back up there, but I was feeling kind of beat and didn't want to push it anymore.
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    I am confused, that section is clearly on park land and if I was hunting up there I would not want to draw attention to myself. That's 3 times in the past 2 weeks that we have had to clear it. On another note the trails are in great shape. Any thoughts on going through the red and blue in a couple weeks with leaf blowers and clearing them out?

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    What section are you guys talking about? I'm riding GLP tonight and would prefer to avoid any confrontation with anti-bike creepers when its dark out.

    Also, riding from Snyder/Deep Creek lot at 6 if anyone is interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexCuse View Post
    What section are you guys talking about? I'm riding GLP tonight and would prefer to avoid any confrontation with anti-bike creepers when its dark out.
    The section we are talking about is in the cedars north of Knight road, between Red Hill road and 29. When you start at 29 and ride into the cedars, you come out to a wider trail, where a slight left takes you down into a small ravine that is normally (except this year) full of mud. The trail we are having issues with you would make a right rather than the slight left, go about 100 feet, then left onto the trail. It runs along the hillside above the ravine to stay out of the mud, and then ends up on the other side of the ravine.

    Clear as mud?

    Even going the normal way through the ravine you are very close to the trail. And the property line for that matter, but I did look yesterday and the posted signs are a good bit into the woods beyond the trail. Strava also shows it as being on park property.
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    Pretty sure I know where you mean - would be nice to have a way around that ravine when its muddy that doesn't involve riding the perimeter of that field back toward walters rd (off park property).
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    I confirmed today that we are on park property and that the park has no issues with us riding there. I was also told that they are not the ones blocking the trail. The MTB group is in good standing with the park and i hope we can continue to keep it that way. I will keep you posted if I hear more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    Any thoughts on going through the red and blue in a couple weeks with leaf blowers and clearing them out?
    It would be great but it's gonna take an army of leaf blowers! Lots of ground to cover. I was thinking about it stuck in traffic today, my old Trek has bosses welded on the frame for a rack. Wonder if I can still get one that would work..................lots easier than walking in with a leaf blower or saw..........
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    We have walked the entire section of the blue and red blowing already and you are correct not enjoyable. I have seen a few pics of people with the blowers facing out the rear as they ride. I assume you put it in granny gear and just take your time. Maybe we can pick a day and try to get a few groups to do a few sections, I think we are a few weeks away from all of the leaves being down.

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    I went out for a quick ride tonight just before dark, didn't have my light charged. The trail up in the cedars that has been a problem was not blocked. I rode it slowly however, and there is a treestand/ blind north of the trail, about 30-50 yards. Guessing that's who the dick is. I rode back that way and jumped 3 deer in the ravine. Guess that's why the stand is there. I yelled at the deer to not run toward the stand. It was just at dusk, and I did not see that blind Sunday so I'm assuming someone was in it.

    *County tax maps show who the property owner is, and he has a 23 acre lot, not sure why he needs the stand there unless he's plucking deer off park property*

    Now I wonder if this isn't the skidsteer guy too. Some of the pushed back stuff was right there--opening up shooting lanes?

    Also rode the honeysuckle tonight, and noticed that someone moved a rock out of the way on the switchback. Come on guys. Leave the rocks where they lay. That's the challenge, that damn thing rolled me down the hill without the bike once, but I'm still pissed someone tossed it. After that it had been a conscious effort to pick a better line.

    Team GLP, is the park doing the mowing or is that rogue activity too?
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    I have been looking for a stand up there and haven't noticed one, wondering if the guy brings it in and out during the week? Pretty bold move to open up lanes in that area. As for the mowing the park is not mowing as far as I know, however at one point the equestrians were allowed to mow their jump areas. They had somone approved come in and do it but if can't remember the last time it was done.

    I have not moved any rocks,not sure what rock it was. There is a group that does cycle cross on the cedar side but I doubt they would move it they are pretty hardcore.

    On another note I am looking at a pre thanksgiving day GLP ride on the morning of thanksgiving, burn some calories before we put them back on! Any interest anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    I have not moved any rocks,not sure what rock it was.
    I know it wasn't you. And I know someone who knows who did it. Next time I ride out there I will look for it and return it to it's place if I find it.

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    On another note I am looking at a pre thanksgiving day GLP ride on the morning of
    thanksgiving, burn some calories before we put them back on! Any interest anyone?
    I am interested. If I can convince the wife is another story..............Are you looking at a full loop or just a section?
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    That rock was fine till you fell on it and knocked it loose!!!
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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    I know it wasn't you. And I know someone who knows who did it. Next time I ride out there I will look for it and return it to it's place if I find it.



    I am interested. If I can convince the wife is another story..............Are you looking at a full loop or just a section?
    I was behind the mover - if memory serves it is just off trail to the right if you're heading up. I have no idea what rock it is though - just a loose one that rolled down the hill?
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    I wonder if this weekend is the big equestrian event? They may have been blocking certain trails. That would be unreal

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    Equestrian event is tomorrow they were marking things off today. If you are planning on riding tomorrow I would stick to the blue or go somewhere else. I let them know it would be appreciated if someone from their organization came in and clean the crap off the trails when they were done, last year was brutal for the next few weeks.

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Know if that event was rain or shine?
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    Does anyone know if the horse event went on as scheduled Saturday?

    I'm riding tomorrow night and one of the guys I'm going with has never been to GLP before. Not sure I should take him on red if its been made back into the ****-fest of old.

    Oh, and I'm riding at 6 from the orange trail lot (snyder and deep creek) if anyone wants to meet up.
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    The horse event was rescheduled for this Sunday so you should be good tonight.

    I got out and finished cutting the rest of the orange loop today, everything was done with clippers and blower so it will need some dress up. For those of you that have ridden the first reroute, at the top where it comes out near the gas line continue straight across and it will wind through there all the way up to the top existing trail. Should add some mileage and be better then riding the gas line. If anyone gets out there try to ride it to start working it in and let me know what you think.

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    Rode pretty much everything tonight, though we bailed at hill road and snuck back down to the parking lot. A few mud holes on orange behind the parking lot but nothing terrible. One or two down trees on hemlock. I think we managed to catch some of the orange reroute - soft and twisty, marked with orange ribbons? I think it has a ton of potential - will have to get a tour from someone during the daytime so I can remember it better - the way we turned onto it I was NOT expecting to come out where we did.

    I managed to catch my tire in the divot where that rock used to be on the switchback and wipe out on my first time down - had to hike back up and try again
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexCuse View Post
    I managed to catch my tire in the divot where that rock used to be on the switchback and wipe out on my first time down - had to hike back up and try again
    It wasn't the divot, unless someone tossed the rock again. I found it Sunday and put it back. It's a bastard, and it makes the switchback much more challenging, as you and I now both found out while rolling down the hill....................


    Where are the trees on Hemlock? How big are they? 12" saw or 20" saw?
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    Probably about halfway through. I think a 12" would probably do it, but the break is about 10-15 feet up and the limb is just hanging straight down in the trail. Couldn't tell if the whole tree would have to go or not, that might take a 20. I really need to throw my saw back in my camelback, think it would have been enought to at least make it passable.

    I still don't know what rock you mean - until recently I always shot for the inside of the switchback. I just started trying to go wide on my fatbike, and decided to try it on my singlespeed tonight. It was definitely a divot that I hit, and it looked like there was a rock there pretty recently. Just assumed it was the same place. I was riding with the guy who moved it last Monday, I made sure to blame him
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    I was on my way down around 7 tonight to try out the new section and literally blew the tire off my rim in the middle of Becker rd. Sounded like a gun shot, of course first reaction hit the brakes... Rim is hammered. Took it home and debarred the entire thing put a tube on it and so far it is holding. Temporary fix until I order a new tubeless rim. Hoping to get out tomorrow if I can beat the rain.

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    Ouch - I might have actually heard that when we were on the new section. Got distracted by a loud noise and looked back to make sure everyone was OK, ended up washing out in one of those soft corners. Glad you're OK, hope the bike heals up!
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    PS not sure if I will be home for Thanksgiving but if I am I will definitely be up for a morning ride. GLP is one of the things I'm most thankful for these days after all
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    I will be around for thanksgiving, are you looking for an early ride TEAMGLP? I could probably sneak away for a 7 or 8 start. I'm also thankful I've got GLP in my backyard. Hell I haven't rode anywhere else in the past month plus, time constraints have kept me at GLP. But today I given the weather I said screw work and a buddy and I are heading to Whiteclay!

    Also when I was out Sunday we ran into a guy doing some trailwork in the section between Red Hill and Markley Roads. Adding some well needed berms. Didn't catch his name but he said he's been reclaiming old trails up there recently. There is one more that has a ton of berms in it that has lots of fallen trees. We talked about it, I may go clean it up. For those that haven't been in that section, be sure to check it out. Some fun sections.
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    Great sections up in there! There is a group of guys that cycle cross up in there and I have noticed the work they are doing and really appreciate it. I had a brief conversation recently about a planned trail network through the cedars that would add mileage and flow.

    Thanks giving day ride full loop, early start, post ride seasonal beverages! Let's ride

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    Pretty sure I'm in for thanksgiving - need to start early though. How early were you guys planning to ride?
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    I may be able to get out for a ride Friday, but I think I'm not going to make the Thanksgiving day ride. Have to be somewhere by 11:30. Guess it all depends how much snow is on the ground.....................
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    Agreed, I would like to ride around 8 or so but it depends on the amount of snow. If it's starting out like this maybe I should have pulled the trigger on the the fat tire bike! Let's play it by ear with the weather.

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    Orange trail lot?
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    Figuring with this weather red trail side is gonna be most rideable - some of the blue climbs could get dicey. Gonna start from knight road at 8, try to ride everything up there.
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    I am going to make a decision tomorrow am, if it freezes then it may be ok. However I was just out in my front yard and it is a sloppy mess. Hopefully it either gets cold and freezes up soon or warm and dries out. We rode last Saturday am when it was frozen and that was the fastest it has been in a long time, I forgot how much I like riding those cold mornings. Alexcuse if we head out I will try to meet you in that area.

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Conditions on red side weren't too bad today. We finally found the "keep out of the mud" trail you guys talked about. Seems like the guy who was blocking it off still isn't happy

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    There was another shortly down the trail. I threw the glass down into the little concrete structure off trail, need to carry some kind of reinforced bag for **** like this I guess.

    There was one tree down on red trail in the middle of the twisty, rooty climb. Think it would've been clearable with a folding saw, which I have to find and put back in my backpack.

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    Someone needs to let the park rangers know about that!

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    Yeah blocking off the trail is one thing but this is just sick. It was on the back side of a small logover, could have really messed someone up if they came over it at speed. I'm glad I was going slow to find the trail otherwise I probably would have wrecked at least one tire. God forbid a runner or dog had come over it fast, or an inexperienced rider went OTB from the log.
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    Someone posted this on facebook, said they found it Tuesday night along with attempts to block the trail like you guys have described in the past

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    That is ridiculous. Looks like its time to get a game camera set up to catch the prick. Rangers will be there less than us bikers are, and we haven't stumbled into the prick yet. The only downside is that animals don't try to steal cameras or SD cards, but a human will....................have to be in a locked bulletproof box.
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    I contacted the park and let them know. Ridiculous that someone would even consider doing something like that, who does that? Fairly certain it must be a hunter that works that upper corner, can't imagine someone hunting that close to park lines would want to draw attention to themselves but this guy must be pretty obnoxious. For the time being please be careful up in that area as a confrontation with this guy most likely won't be peaceful. Please keep me posted as to any other findings up there and I will keep the park in the loop.

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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Gonna ride from Ward rd lot tomorrow at 930 if anyone's interested
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    Re: Green Lane trail conditions

    Conditions were great today. Maybe 2 wet spots on upper blue and 2 on orange. Then the usual spots on red. Red was wonderfully tacky and fast.

    There is a tree down on hemlock right before that loose rock climb with the 90 degree turn in the middle.

    And a path is starting to emerge over the tree that I'm sure everyone has seen near the top of the rooty climb on red in the honeysuckle area - keep left over the tree, and be ready to get back right

    Rode the new orange stuff for the first time in daylight today too, that is gonna be really fun when it starts getting packed down better. I think I've ridden it all now but not sure.

    Didn't hit the glass trail - anyone seen any more shenanigans back there?
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    We did a full loop today and I noted a few things.

    First and this really pisses me off. Someone cut down one of the two trees on the "bar check" segment in the cedars north of Knight road. Totally ruins the fun the trail used to be. This sh*t deserves someones fingers broken. Second the log pile we made up there a few months back was partially dismembered by someone with a saw, left some of it, but cut some away. WTF?

    The rock on the switchbacks on Honeysuckle is gone again. The hole where it was is unrecognizable. So to the as*hole that did it the first time, and probably did it again, you win. I got a rack for my old bike.

    Hemlock needs help. The one tree on the down that someone did a crappy clip job needs to go. The down one at the bottom needs to go too. Going to take a big saw.

    We did not check out the Glass trail. Between cutting a sidewall on Hemlock, crashing on lower blue and landing in a ditch, I was run down and beat up
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    Oh yeah that clip job was horrible. Scared me so much I forgot about it haha.

    Didn't realize someone had cut out the back of that log pile, thought it had just rattled apart. Shitty, trails could use more of that type of stuff IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by ferguson65 View Post
    We did a full loop today and I noted a few things.



    My brother and I were talking about going in and reopening the one original ravine crossing on lower blue that Sandy dropped a tree in. It's a shitty walk in from either end with a 14# saw, but I just never have enjoyed the reroute.

    If anyone is off this week and want to help get some of this work done, I'm game shoot me a PM. I'm off 'til the 2nd. I have the saws and experience, just nice to have someone else along in case I pinch the saw, and to help carry it. If we open the original ravine crossing on blue we'd need to take a leaf blower in too, it's really bad right there. I have that too.

    We did not check out the Glass trail. Between cutting a sidewall on Hemlock, crashing on lower blue and landing in a ditch, I was run down and beat up
    I didn't see any glass on my ride today either.
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    I believe we are talking about the same section. It is between Ward road and the access on Swinging Bridge road, on the lower blue. I think its the only ravine that hasn't been cut back open. If there are other spots that need attended to I'm up for that also. I wish I could have pinned the location, I'm not sure which way in would be a shorter walk.

    I should be able to free up some time Friday. I know I can't do Saturday. Will keep you in the loop.
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    Anybody have any idea what shape the park is in? Ridable or muddy?
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    Noted that Blue trail has 2 more ravines cleared to pre-Sandy status as of today. Trees are all clear for the original line, but you can still try the reroute line if you want to. Also the large tree on the downhill before this ravine was cut out as well.

    On a side note, the upper blue is a mess of standing water, lower the usual spots are wet(ter) than normal. Give it a few days or a freeze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    Thanks. Was thinking of hitting just the red with my son. May give it few days to clear.
    Ended up hiking around the park instead and was surprised to see many people out -from horses to bike riders. The single track was in pretty good shape. The "field" areas were pretty crappy.
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    I am usually the one that post about staying off the trails when it is muddy like this , however if anyone is looking to spin the tires head over to the new orange cut by the park. Riding the red and blue right now will surely damage the trails until we get a solid freeze. The orange trail on the gas line side that we cut this fall could afford to be torn up a little and it actually isn't a muddy mess right now. I rode on Saturday and did a little work building a monster log over that was needed and it was dryer then I thought it would be. As a new trail cutter/builder I am learning quickly that I need to consider both directions of travel and also lengthen my straight runs. The section that we did in there is ok but I am already considering some reroute areas.

    Looks like Ferguson and I are going to get out on Tuesday morning to do some layout work on a new cut near hill rd if anyone wants to join us. The plan is to meet at the hill rd lot at 9.

    Thank you to the local crew that has been diligently clearing debris when needed! We are definitely a small crew but everyone serves their part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    I am usually the one that post about staying off the trails when it is muddy like this , however if anyone is looking to spin the tires head over to the new orange cut by the park. Riding the red and blue right now will surely damage the trails until we get a solid freeze. The orange trail on the gas line side that we cut this fall could afford to be torn up a little and it actually isn't a muddy mess right now. I rode on Saturday and did a little work building a monster log over that was needed and it was dryer then I thought it would be. As a new trail cutter/builder I am learning quickly that I need to consider both directions of travel and also lengthen my straight runs. The section that we did in there is ok but I am already considering some reroute areas.

    Looks like Ferguson and I are going to get out on Tuesday morning to do some layout work on a new cut near hill rd if anyone wants to join us. The plan is to meet at the hill rd lot at 9.

    Thank you to the local crew that has been diligently clearing debris when needed! We are definitely a small crew but everyone serves their part.
    Thanks for the heads up. Yes, while some trails were fine, many were way too wet to ride. With that said, the sheer number of riders - from bike to horse - surprised me!

    I never would have thought the orange trail would be ridable. Thanks again for all your work!
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    I hiked out on the blue today for a short distance and it is definitely not in any shape to ride. Tomorrow ferguson and I will be on foot to look at some trail options leaving from hill rd. Around 9.

    As far as the Orange is concerned please ride the gas line side of Snyder rd as the other side will be a mess. The new trail that is marked with the Orange tape is so fresh that getting some tracks on it while it is wet will help to break it up a little. Looks like we may get some freeze this week and hopefully firm everything up a little

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    Just a heads up I met with the trail supervisor today and hiked a new section trail that we marked off of hill road and he was happy with our plan. The trail is marked with orange survey tape and creates a loop from hill road to swinging bridge. I am planning on blowing the trail off tomorrow if I can beat the weather and that should make it a little easier to see. Feel free to ride it when you can.

    On a side note today we stumbled on a section that was recently cut with a chainsaw, there were a large number of trees cut and a log over was built in the area. The supervisor was not happy and is interested in finding out who is doing the cutting, obviously he knows it is a mtb rider with the log over. Please contact me personally if there are any areas that you feel need to be cleared and I will let the park know, we are not permitted to use chainsaws on park land.

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    I was able to get out this am and beat the weather and get the new section blown off. The trail should be easy to follow now and hopefully start getting some use. To access from hill rd ride the blue trail from the lower blue towards the top where it crosses the entrance road. As you make your way up you will see orange surveyor tape to the right, if you follow this it will take you along and upper trail towards swinging bridge rd. Hopefully we will get some riding weather in the near future.

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    Anyone been out since it got cold? Was hoping it'd be good and frozen for a ride Sunday morning if the forecast holds true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexCuse View Post
    Anyone been out since it got cold? Was hoping it'd be good and frozen for a ride Sunday morning if the forecast holds true.
    Not ridding but went for a hike. The Red trails was frozen solid.
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    I may try to get out on the red this afternoon, I will let you if I get out

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    Rode today, mostly great. Some spots with a lot of leaves under the snow were tough (mostly on upper blue, hemlock and the bit of red behind the knight lot). The first part of dogwood (if you ride it counterclockwise) is absolutely trashed. I've never seen it so rutted - was a pretty big disappointment.

    Get out and ride it today if you can I think we have a rough week coming up!
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    Rode orange behind the parking lot yesterday and it was in surprisingly good shape. Its actually easier to ride right now I think because so much of the rocks are under snow. There is ice under it so just go easy into the corners. Wish I had gotten to ride more up there but the ride up on the perk trail was slow going.
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    Google found out about the orange trail sometime recently. And it looks like they're onto the blue trail also. Not sure how to feel about this.

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    Damn the Google!

    Hoping to get out and start assessing the trails soon, let me know what you guys are seeing out there. Hopefully people will use some common sense and let the trails dry out before getting on them.

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    I've been riding the dirt roads around the park a bunch lately, from the looks of things around there I think we may have another couple weeks to wait :-/
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    Oddly enough I being to a eastern pa trail condition group on Facebook and the people said GLP is clear to trail run. I can't see runners not doing damage if it's that bad.
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    Hopefully they're running dogwood and packing all the ruts back down. I think once the majority of surface mud is dried it's usually 'OK' to run on but tires tear that top layer right up. Shoes do too if we're being honest, I don't think runners are generally as concerned with trail conditions as long as the ice is gone.
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    I wonder what green lane will be like tomorrow? Going to be a cold night and I wonder if it will freeze.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    I wonder what green lane will be like tomorrow? Going to be a cold night and I wonder if it will freeze.
    So, as usual, I ended up hiking instead of ridding and it was muddy. Not as bad as you would expect but very wet in some areas. Lots of people ridding bikes and horses. Honestly, just seeing the damage the horses do, I see almost no issue with a bike rider in those conditions.
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    I was planning to bail and ride the perk but ended up hitting a good bit of orange and all of hemlock and red today. A couple problematic low spots on orange, and the fields are craptastic on red but most of the singletrack in the woods was great. There was a unexpected wet spot near the end of hemlock closest to 29. And a tree down in the honeysuckle section on red, but it was only about 8" pretty easy to get over. I couldn't find the trail with the logovers btownrider showed me in the fall, assuming the stone pile got knocked down and the trail reclaimed by the woods

    This was about as dirty as my bike got

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexCuse View Post
    I was planning to bail and ride the perk but ended up hitting a good bit of orange and all of hemlock and red today. A couple problematic low spots on orange, and the fields are craptastic on red but most of the singletrack in the woods was great. There was a unexpected wet spot near the end of hemlock closest to 29. And a tree down in the honeysuckle section on red, but it was only about 8" pretty easy to get over. I couldn't find the trail with the logovers btownrider showed me in the fall, assuming the stone pile got knocked down and the trail reclaimed by the woods

    This was about as dirty as my bike got

    That is great news. I actually walked around both green lane and Nox and both were in pretty good condition. May try to get a ride in tomorrow before the weather changes....
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    Not sure on timing yet but I'm gonna ride from the ward rd lot after work today if anyone is interested
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    Change of plans meeting at Knight lot at 5
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    I walked hemlock yesterday and the new upper blue / whitetail tonight with the wife. Hemlock was great. That one wet spot is pretty much the only bad spot, and it's always wet. it's easy enough to get to and I'm sure could be made to drain better if we looked at why it happens, I mean it is on a hill. The new upper blue TEAMGLP and I cut around Christmas is visible and easy to follow, though someone pulled the ribbons off for the first hundred yards or so. There is a big tree down on the rocky decent, probably blew down this weekend. Saw a red fox and a few deer back there tonight. Moved what I could by hand, chainsaw required for the rest.

    On a side note, I saw they were looking for volunteers to help with trail maintenance. I may try to get more details. If it frees me to use the tree remover when necessary I'd be game.
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    Rode the main loop today, took upper blue and hit dogwood both were OK. The usual problem areas on upper blue. Bike was filthy when I finished because I tried going across the field and down the gravel path instead of taking that rutted mess down to the red trail lot on Knight closer to 29 (take the rutted mess, the other way is even worse).

    I need you guys to show me the new trail on blue side sometime, have kept an eye out but not found it yet.

    Think I've ridden all of the park in the last two days except the section where they do the guerilla CX trails (and the trails I can't find ), and pretty much everything in the woods is in great shape. Here's hoping we don't get all the rain thats called for, or that people have enough sense to stay off the trails Saturday if we do get it all...
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    Really sucks its going to rain tomorrow, Green Lane was awesome tonight!
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    Rode the Red trail out to the connector and back today including a couple of off shoots down by the lake. Conditions were really good aside from the usual mud spots. I saw a lot of people out on bikes, horses, and just hiking around. Everyone was very nice and I always try to be as well.

    Cannondale was well represented today I saw a good number of nice ones out there. (including mine if I do say so myself!)

    A couple of damn nice Santa Cruz bikes too.

    The equestrians I did encounter were very nice and we all got a long just fine so that was a welcome addition.

    I would've liked to do the blue trail but I was worried about conditions and quite honestly I've been a couch jockey all winter so my fitness level leaves something to be desired there.

    The mud I did encounter was chocolate milk (by the parking area before/after the paved section and before the first little curve and hill) to chunky peanut butter in almost every other spot where there was mud. Otherwise the moisture level on the trails was perfect. Great day overall. Just need to lay off the Doritos.

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    Got out this morning and rode the blue loop top/bottom. This past fall ferguson and I cleaned up and upper section and connected it with the existing blue with the help from some rogue trail workers. Overall the loop is great, almost 4 miles with some technical section, climbs and flow. Couple areas need trees cut and I will re-mark it as somone pulled down some ribbons. Feel free to post any areas that need work and we will try to get them cleaned up.

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    I was out on Sunday. On Blue right before the downed tree before the big climb someone piled some thorn bushes on the trail. I moved them out of the way. It was bizarre. It wasn't enough to do anything and it was in a straight away, so anyone would see it coming.
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    Hello,
    I have ridden Green Lane in the past, but in the last year I purchased a house in Pennsburg. I am now riding GLP more frequently and would like to help out with any trail work that may be needed. If this is possible let me know.
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    There are trail days posted here from time to time - I've still never been able to make one but someday the stars will align. I do my best to carry a folding saw with me whenever there have been heavy winds.

    You aren't the lucky new owner of that house that had the for sale sign right on the blue trail are ya?
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    Even the path to the lot across from dogwood was dry today. We need some rain badly.

    One downed tree near hemlock entrance by the school, another right in the middle of upper blue.
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    Gonna ride from the red trail lot (the one closest to 29) after work if anyones interested. 5pm
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    Rode pretty much everything on the red side of the reservoir yesterday. The stuff across Knight rd that holds moisture a bit longer was in great shape, especially the section right across from the stream crossing where the cyclocross guys ride in the fall. Someone's done some work on the trail down along the base of the hill, added little mini rollers and a nice bridge over one of the drainage ruts. Other sections getting kinda dusty, to the point that it affected traction a bit. The "high" trail right across from the lot (the one that was getting booby trapped in fall/winter) is getting ridden in pretty nicely, but there are a few spots its getting loose. Hopefully we get some rain to help it firm up a bit.

    They are doing work on the gas station across from the lot, it stunk like natural gas when I pulled in and whatever they were doing was very loud. Looks like that should be done in a couple days though.
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    Everything was perfect today. Good to see puddles by the knight rd bridge again.

    Not sure how much its supposed to rain tomorrow but if you get a chance to ride today do it
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    Rode again this morning, conditions not much worse than they were Sunday. "Sector Z" (and for that matter everything on north side of Knight Rd) was a little soft but I would bet its already firmed up. Usual wet spots on blue and orange but no real mud to speak of.

    The tree that was down near the hill rd crossing on blue is cleared (thanks!). Still one down on upper blue, keep an eye out for it. Its in the middle of a straight section. I saw one tree knocked down by the most recent storm, just before you get to the twisty, rooty climb on honeysuckle (if you're riding counterclockwise).
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    any idea if green lane is ridable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vespasianus View Post
    any idea if green lane is ridable?
    I am heading out tomorrow am, assuming the usual spots are wet but it should be rideable. I will keep you posted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    I am heading out tomorrow am, assuming the usual spots are wet but it should be rideable. I will keep you posted.

    Thanks. With all the rain, coming, it might be only for today.
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    I rode the Orange this am, definitely wet but rideable. The new section we cut handles the rain well right now. I plan to be out tomorrow am again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEAMGLP View Post
    I rode the Orange this am, definitely wet but rideable. The new section we cut handles the rain well right now. I plan to be out tomorrow am again.

    That is good to hear. The orange, like the blue, has lots of rocks and I wonder if that helps in the rain.
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    It helps, but the bad spots on those two get really bad. If you stick to the "lower" blue trail that is typically a bit better after rain.

    The worst spot on orange is if you go straight back from the snyder/deep creek parking lot, but its easy to avoid that section.
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    Any idea how the trails are?

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    I'm planning to head up in the morning. Think they should be pretty good by this afternoon, finally getting some dry air. Could be a lot down from the storm Thursday, I'm packing my saw
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    Rode most of the trails today, good shape except the usual spots on orange. I noticed one of the logs in that pile across knight rd that someone cut the back side out of last year had popped up like 2 feet above the others. Cut that out, there is not much left there. I'm hoping the branch that popped up is the one that made that whole thing kinda unstable and what little is left will turn out to at least be not unpleasant to ride.

    There is one rotten tree that was too big for my saw down in the middle of the first climb up into the "upper" blue trail (if you're coming from ward rd lot). Its borderline makeable but considering where it is a cut would be a merciful act

    Theres a couple trees down on orange behind the parking lot. Look fresh. Who is authorized to use chainsaws in the park? I was thinking it would be great to cut these into 18-24" lengths and build a way through some of the usual wet spots on the orange trail. They are really close to most of the chronic wetness so we wouldn't have to move anything too far. The location shows up on the map here https://www.strava.com/activities/344665923 (I broke off the high limb, so now its pretty easy to walk over)
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexCuse View Post
    There is one rotten tree that was too big for my saw down in the middle of the first climb up into the "upper" blue trail (if you're coming from ward rd lot). Its borderline makeable but considering where it is a cut would be a merciful act
    I rode there on Sunday and the trails were in great shape. Better than I have ridden them in a while. But definitely leave that log across the climb into upper blue. It makes that climb so much more interesting (no mercy AlexCuse). Just be careful of the water crossing before it as there is a HUGE rock right in the middle of the line through.

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    Been ducking under this one on upper blue for months. Thought it was too big for my saw but today I was mad enough at it to find out

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    All good, usual wet spots on orange
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    My brother and I rode almost every trail in GLP Sunday. It is dry, dry, dry. Still a couple wet spots hanging out on Orange though. It's been so dry and great for riding this year but I think we need a maintenance day. The trails are really overgrown. I've been down with a sprained ankle the past month but think I can get back out and hike around now.
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    Any spots that are particularly overgrown? I'm planning to ride a few laps on Sunday if it doesn't rain a ton, I could carry some kind of cutting implement for at least one of them.
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    90% of red and dogwood is overgrown, honeysuckle entrance, guerilla cross area, and lower blue is nearly unrideable.

    Every time we've ridden there in the past month or two I wind up bleeding and I didn't even crash. IMO, that's overgrown, and everything that hangs in the trails at GLP IS covered in thorns which makes it that much more fun.
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