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    New question here. Cross training with Motos?

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    Since MTBs are close relatives to Motos and share a lot of the same technology. Does anyone use Motos to better their MTB skills? How do you feel it helps?

    With the weight and speed of a Moto it can basically teach you greater tech skills. Moto riders have to make decisions quicker due to the increased speed. So people say ya well you just sit back and hit the throttle! Well... really your trying to control a missle, and many muscles take part in this endeavor.

    On an MX track fun, fun, fun, open area with runouts or at most a snow fence to run into, but take that 60HP beast in the woods and look out trees don't move! Of course, Yes, having an engine does not compete with pedaling and all the skills necessary to move your body up and over rocks and logs. On a Moto you can gain much more speed through sections of trail and in my opinion it helps with mt biking skills. It would be more of a benefit to Downhill and Free Ride due to the similar techniques and increased suspension travel.

    Similar, but different is Moto Trials! a low speed motorcycle where the object is to ride over natural and man made obstacles. For world-class riders, the obstacles can get to be pretty sizeable, The sport is very challenging to do, and is fun to watch. Trials riders are sometimes referred to as the gymnasts of motorcycling or "the Magicians of the motorcycle world". The bikes are light and agile - the emphasis is on technique and more like mt biking since they weigh less than MX Motos and you don't rely on sheer HP to over come an obstacle. Moto Trials is more about traction and close right up to, launches with no run at the rocks or logs Really an artistic balance and skill show! Great for cross training for MTBs

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    Cross Training

    I was told that riding the mountain bike would help with riding the moto. When I finally got back on a dirt bike I could not believe how much my technical skills had improved!
    I also notice the opposite being true. Riding my dirt bike develops skills and strength that carry over into mountain biking.
    In my opinion, mountain biking and dirt biking, in any form, go hand in hand. You learn different skills with each discipline and they can all be used to improve your performance in the other.

    Twisting the throttle or torguing the pedals....it's all good!
    Now, just shut up and ride!
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    the 5th poster, ganginwoods, is correct

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    Cross Training

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    Ahhhh, how cute!!!

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    Good job!

    Moto:

    Here's another believer and past national champion!:

    http://www.team-shoair.com/rider.asp?r=20

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    Go O-Show!!!

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    Yes they definitely go hand and hand.For me as having done lots of both for many years nothing can compare to moto.Especially HS and enduros.

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    I didn't realize this thread had to include baby pictures.

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    Good job!

    Much better...

    ...Moto Kid now! He's even got the "THROTTLE" hand in action!

    Brrrraaapppp!!!
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    Think that little maniac needs a motorcycle.Funny thing is I was riding a motorcycle before i even rode a bicycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxer
    Yes they definitely go hand and hand.For me as having done lots of both for many years nothing can compare to moto.Especially HS and enduros.
    Remember Ramapo?...

    .. Especially for getting a big run at water filled ditches! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

    I wish I had a pic or vid of that day!

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    Yes thatwas a classic!

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    ... and if we just ... Cross Training

    Want to be able to hang with Johnny "O Show" O'Mara in the NORBA series. Take a tip from Huckin' Moto Kitty and do some cross training with a moto!
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    Moto,those pics are bringing tears to my eyes.The kitty was KING!

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    Those are actual photos from Lake Sugartree, they have not been retouched in any way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoman465
    Those are actual photos from Lake Sugartree, they have not been retouched in any way!
    i konow!That is what makes it so great!

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    Cross Training

    Huckin' Kitty really believes in Cross Training!!!

    Rock On, Huckin' Kitty!!!
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    He's so good ho doesn't need any protective gear.

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    Cross Training

    NO PROTECTIVE GEAR....BAD KITTY, BAD KITTY!!!
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    At least he showers after a ride!

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    Hoping to get out and do a little moto in the woods this Sunday.Anyone up for it?

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    Cross training with Motos

    Judging from the amount of negativity over this thread, apparently riding motos does not classify as training? After all, you just sit on the bike and twist your right wrist, right? I should not have to defend the validity of riding moto to those who are unable to ride for whatever reason! I am sure if this thread were about doing squats, deadlifts, or planks there wouldn't be a backlash like there is. To everyone that is up in arms over this post, I say swing a leg over a moto and go out and ride aggresively and then post back with your experience!
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    I'd say that you should find a motocross site and post this bs there.

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by motoman465
    Judging from the amount of negativity over this thread, apparently riding motos does not classify as training? After all, you just sit on the bike and twist your right wrist, right? I should not have to defend the validity of riding moto to those who are unable to ride for whatever reason! I am sure if this thread were about doing squats, deadlifts, or planks there wouldn't be a backlash like there is. To everyone that is up in arms over this post, I say swing a leg over a moto and go out and ride aggresively and then post back with your experience!
    It's really funny how people judge and pick sides. How many times have you heard on MTBR guys posting rides with "road" bikes? Is that wrong? Heck no, Riding is riding! How about talk of cars that carry MTBs on? Guys will brag it up about the bling bling and show up at the trail head with a fancy rig, GREAT! Nice shiny stuff is always fun to look at and talk about.

    The crossover from moto to MTB in parts development. Funny they don't cry about their Fox forks that came from motorcycle technology.

    Have you heard from Shaffer? I hope we can pull off the MTB race at Twin Creeks MX halftime, cause lot's of guys who Moto bring their MTBs and use them to train on as well as love to ride them! We should hook up with Shaffer soon. I was amazed to hear he used to go to Jim Thorpe MTB weekend back in the day.

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    Then why don't "all those guys who moto and love to mountain bike" join in on your discussions? 3 people in this thread, three people in that thread, always the same three people.......Kind of weird don't you think?
    No one is saying don't do it. Just make a phone call.

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    Quote Originally Posted by onegeargood
    I'd say that you should find a motocross site and post this bs there.
    Yea,and some of these people complain that ss is junk,29er"s are junk,cyclocross is junk etc..Pretty funny actually that get all wound up over.Onegeargood go find a moto forum?Well let me tell you that on moto forums there is plenty of talk about mtb,road,nutrition,rowing,running,weight training etc..Moto people are alot more open minded versus cycling people.Also ongear and anybody else if you don't like these moto threads why do you come in and look?Maybe because you wish you knew how to moto.Maybe you just need something to complain about?Basically if you don't like moto threads you just don't have to open it.DAh!Sorry there you go fixed it.Rolling eyes over your ignorance.Your so smart you must be a teacher like gagonwood.Ok suited up and heading out for a ride.A road ride no less.Hope that is ok.LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatroll
    Then why don't "all those guys who moto and love to mountain bike" join in on your discussions? 3 people in this thread, three people in that thread, always the same three people.......Kind of weird don't you think?
    No one is saying don't do it. Just make a phone call.
    Troll,and that is all that you are this was posted to try and see how many other people moto.Seems there is only a few others so far.If you don't like it why don't you just stay out of this thread? Guess you just need something to complain about.That being said going riding.See ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mxer
    .DA!
    Actually, it's "dah"
    Used with a well known retard entonation.

    As I said in another post, "What is With This Place"

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    Good job!

    Quote Originally Posted by nepatroll
    Actually, it's "dah"
    Used with a well known retard entonation.

    As I said in another post, "What is With This Place"
    Retitle post to "What's with NEPAtroll"

    Up to 10 posts now! Impressive and all of them are bashing towards others, and thread policing others, and may I ask what help have you offered to others?

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    Cross Training with Motos?

    I want to get a trials bike next year and learn trials riding. There is alot of crossover from cross-country and motocross to mountain bikes, but I think that there maybe more in the trials area.

    I can static balance a 'crosser for almost a minute, but I think the best I did on my 29r was about 10 seconds. I can definitely see where trials skills on a moto will help out with the more technical obstacles you will encounter on the trail with a mt. bike!

    Now, just have to find a decent bike at a decent price and then go out and play...and not get hurt! LOL!

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    Good job!

    Moto:

    Yes, one of the best ways to sharpen your tech skills is a trials Moto or MTB. I will be heading out to a few open house events soon. Lot's of motorcycle and bicycle trials bikes to look at and demo.

    I feel your logical step though is to get into a "classic" trials motorcycle first. Such as a Yamaha TY 250, Kawasaki KT 250 or Suzuki RL 250. All are very affordable and won't hurt ya. Even some of the Spanish stuff like Montesa, Bultaco, or Ossa will work just harder to find parts for.

    Then progress to a Gas Gas, Sherco, Beta, Greeves, or new Ossa which are all much quicker handling modern trails motorcycles.

    The nice thing in buying and restoring a classic older Trials Moto, is the value of these bikes is going up substantially, so as you ride it your are also gaining an investment towards a newer ride.

    Somewhere in the mix you might consider a trials bicycle for x training, builds strength and tech skills, of course you can ride trials with the MTB you have just gotta make a few adjustments, that we can do at the shop.

    Let me know if your interested in going along!

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    Specialized invades motocross

    I was just over checking out the Racer X website and apparently a few of the top moto professionals are training on both road and mountain bikes and Specialized is leading the charge. Not only do moto guys train on these things, but even after they are retired some pursue a career in mountain bike racing...most notably Johnny O'Mara.

    http://www.racerxvt.com/virtual_trai...zed_bikes.html

    I also found a photo of two great former moto champions on mt bikes. Mike "Too Tall" Bell was the 1980 SX champion and Mickey Dymond was a two time 125cc outdoor national champion! Both of them are pedaling now!
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    Good job!

    Me likey toys with wheels! Mt biking and Moto are such great sports, shame only Moto gets all the TV coverage, unless you include the Tour, not much else on their. We need an MTB network too

    How bout you guys?

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    Tv

    I agree!!! If it has two wheels and it involves dirt, it is for me!!! I would love to see TV coverage of:

    Cross Country MTB - It is just freakin' cool!!!

    Downhill - I love to watch lunatics do what they do best!!!

    Bicycle Trials - It just amazes me what people can do on bikes!!!

    I think that the bicycle athletes should be able to share the spotlight with their moto brothers!!!
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    Yes moto guys have been training with mtb's for years.I can remeber seeing yeti,specialized and grafton stickers on the helmets of Johnn O,RJ,Jeff ward,Ron Lechien and many others.

    They used to have xc,4x and dh on the old oln network.The sport dwindled over the years so they stopped airing it.

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    Cross training with Motos?

    Quote Originally Posted by mxer
    Yes moto guys have been training with mtb's for years.I can remeber seeing yeti,specialized and grafton stickers on the helmets of Johnn O,RJ,Jeff ward,Ron Lechien and many others.

    They used to have xc,4x and dh on the old oln network.The sport dwindled over the years so they stopped airing it.
    I will have to pay more attention when I look at old photos and videos of moto guys from back in the day. OLN was an awesome network in the day!!!
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