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    Bear Creek Resort trail pictures

    Posted a very heavy picture blog of the completed "new" loop at Bear Creek.

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    I've been wanting to see pictures of Bear Creek, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner1
    Posted a very heavy picture blog of the completed "new" loop at Bear Creek.

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    Those pics make it look pretty sweet up there. I have to be up that way in couple weeks and am looking to ride. I am an XC rider, who isn't afraid (read to dumb to know better) of some downhill type stuff, even though I am suspensionally challenged.

    My question is: what type of riding to expect? The www.skibearcreek.com says it only has 6.5 miles of trails that are XC style (not updated?), but the photos look like there is some downhill stuff. I would like to get a good 2hour burn in. Is it long enough for XC or is it only worth it to go if you are into DH riding?

    Any info would be appreciated.
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    Keep in mind, this is just my opinion and there are some better riders than me that will chime in. Bear Creek right now has about a 6 mile loop if you only ride the blue trail, but there is a yellow loop at the top that may add about another mile or so. (I don't ride with a bike computer, so I don't really know). It's a good hard 6 or so miles, that's for sure. Mostly XC stuff, but I'm a freak and ride it both ways. They hosted a DH race there last year so it's a little of both. When you climb the blue loop clockwise from the kiosk, you're basically climbing a DH run.
    When I ride the loop, it takes me about an hour and a half, but like I said in my blog, I push a good bit. I know guys who ride it in under an hour. you can always do 2 loops or finish 1 loop and turn around and ride it the other way. that'll get your burn for sure!

    As for bikes and being suspensionally challenged, I ride it XC on a Iron Horse hardtail no problems, even coming down the big rock garden on the top of the mountain.

    I push my DH bike to the top and blast down either side for a good DH run.

    PM me you email and I'll send you more pictures if you'd like or get a ride together.
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    Hey Gunner, would you be my tour guide around the mountain!!!!



    Quote Originally Posted by gunner1
    Keep in mind, this is just my opinion and there are some better riders than me that will chime in. Bear Creek right now has about a 6 mile loop if you only ride the blue trail, but there is a yellow loop at the top that may add about another mile or so. (I don't ride with a bike computer, so I don't really know). It's a good hard 6 or so miles, that's for sure. Mostly XC stuff, but I'm a freak and ride it both ways. They hosted a DH race there last year so it's a little of both. When you climb the blue loop clockwise from the kiosk, you're basically climbing a DH run.
    When I ride the loop, it takes me about an hour and a half, but like I said in my blog, I push a good bit. I know guys who ride it in under an hour. you can always do 2 loops or finish 1 loop and turn around and ride it the other way. that'll get your burn for sure!

    As for bikes and being suspensionally challenged, I ride it XC on a Iron Horse hardtail no problems, even coming down the big rock garden on the top of the mountain.

    I push my DH bike to the top and blast down either side for a good DH run.

    PM me you email and I'll send you more pictures if you'd like or get a ride together.

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    does anyone have a garmin file uploaded to motionbased for the race course?
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    Gunner, that blog about Diablo is great! Good pics of Bear Creek also. I was just there yesterday for the 4th time. Its a great technical trail. I also play around on the yellow/orange/red etc while I'm up there and if I have time do it the other way, which I like better actually. Going counter clockwise from the kiosk that first section is so much fun blasting down before the realization of whats to climb sets in. You should take a couple more pics and show how rocky it is, I took my brother since he was home from Carmel, CA for a week. He was on a Giant Reign and HATED it both ways hahaha! He said there was no flow, bah! I think its a great ride and since I live 10 minutes away I can get a quickie in after work. It has potential for much more as well, I have high hopes. Zillah

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    Zillah, which way away do you live? I'm in between Macungie and Alburtis right down Mountain Road. Next time I have the camera, I'll get some good pictures of the rocks.
    Chuck T and his crew are really putting a max effort in and the only thing i could hope for is that they'd turn on the lifts for even just one day!
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    A few more pics

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    Turn your head to the left. Rock garden.

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    Another little bridge on the yellow trail. Yes, the rocks ARE the trail

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    You will go up and to the right around the boulder and then start very techincal switchbacks.

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    Not how you really want to see your bike when you get back up, but I'm used to it. *sigh*

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    Blue trail coming out to the pond, trail makes hard left at flags and climbs.


    Hope these add something to the visual.
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    Gunner1- Thanks for the good info and ride offer. I am going to be in the area for business and not sure of the time I am done, so I can't really commit to exactly what time I am riding. Looking forward to riding this place.
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    Hi- the trails are about 6 miles in length right now, with some 'optional' routes along the way. Most trails are XC/Trail oriented- its only DH if you are willing to go uphill under your own power first . In general, a fit rider will do the entire loop in about 45-60 minutes with elite racers doing it in the 35 minute range. IMO, the trail is completely different in each direction, so doing a loop in each is a fun thing. As far as a GPS route of the actual race course, yes I have one (helped dig some of the new areas and was treated to an 'off limits' ride) but I havent uploaded it to motionbased yet. In general, the race course is clockwise (facing the mountain) with the singletrack portion starting at the kiosk, following blue to the top, then yellow, back to blue, the red bypass, then finish on blue. PM me to see if we can hook up for a race course tour, but I will be at the RCST bash this weekend.

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    "In general, a fit rider will do the entire loop in about 45-60 minutes with elite racers doing it in the 35 minute range."

    So Dan, you poking me about my hour and a half ride times?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner1
    "In general, a fit rider will do the entire loop in about 45-60 minutes with elite racers doing it in the 35 minute range."

    So Dan, you poking me about my hour and a half ride times?
    Nope, just trying to offer some general idea of how long a loop it is interms of time, not mileage- 6 miles sounds short, but the terrain makes up forthe lack of mileage

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    Gunner - I live close to where 29/100 meet, by st peters road. It looked like theres been some major trail maintenance since the last time I was there, the rock gardens are nice but I enjoy the non-constructed rock strewn areas on the right side facing the Mtn, fun climbing and fun bombing down, so far. I don't know the crew who does the digging, but they are dedicated it seems, and do a great job. Bear Creek seems to be a bit on the sandy side compared to other places around and it looks like they have to deal with erosion a little more than the trails at south mtn, jordan and others. It was a so dry you left a dust cloud behind, makes you feel fast on the way down. I had just put easton flatboys on my bike and they tore me up, gotta love it.

    Hour and a half?!...sounds about right I usually take a break on top...Sometimes I like to push myself but usually I just like having fun...try sections a couple times...catching snakes and toads...and poison ivy...good times. Zillah

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    Who is building these trails, you say? Its actually the Bear Creek folks themselves at this point. BC has been making a push to be a 4-season resort, and one of the managers is a MTB'er himself, so has a real interest in making the place bike-friendly. In case anyone is interested, the MASS season finale is the 22-23 of September with STXC Saturday, and XC Sunday. Then, the following Tuesday is the Bear Creek STXC racing series, and that one will have its season finale during the BC Fall Fast on October 27. There is even a rumor about doing some CX racing there next year. Just be sure to sign the waiver at the kiosk before you ride- it keeps it open and free for all of us

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    Zillah, PM me your email if you want and we'll hook up to do a ride there. My son goes with me and another friend of mine and we're way into the just having fun riding. Slow, but fun Oh, and there IS a DH possibility there.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrewS
    Hey Gunner, would you be my tour guide around the mountain!!!!
    He will teach you many things up on that mountain....

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    See, dude?

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    I've been wanting to see pictures of Bear Creek, thanks!
    Been tellinya' we should check it out!
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    This looks great! I can't wait to ride there. Anyone interested in riding with me? I don't know when I'll go, but I only live about 1 hr away, so it's doable for me during the evenings (before it gets dark) and anytime during the weekends.

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    Soobie, PM me your email if you'd like and I'll give you a shout when I'm going up. Zillah wants to meet up as well so we may have a good group ride coming up!
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    I did the MASS final race at Bear Creek. It was gnarly. Seriously, I killed myself. At race pace, it's just absurd. I think I went over the bars at least 7 times. My knee is destoryed. My arm looks as if I have gangrene. It's one thing to ride these bad boys recreationally, but don't look to race them unless you're fully suspended and a maniac. Great time nevertheless. Oh yeah, and I flatted. My race was officially over when that happened. Sickest trails I've ridden in my life.

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    Strumpetto, got any pics? Not of your gangreen arm though, I don't want to see that!

    Anyone up for a ride this sunday sometime. 10ish or so?

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    I'll do a group ride this weekend.

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    I would be game for a 10:00am group ride on sunday!

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    That's three.

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    May try to make it Sunday, not sure. Stumpetto, nice blog posting! Sorry to hear you had it that bad. I know your pain, I ride BC on a hardtail everytime I ride it. Took me 2 summers to get to where I can come away from a ride and not be bleeding. Shattered my left elbow in the spring on the downhill side switchbacks and now have pieces of bone just floating. Shins and forearm pads will be with me from now on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner1
    May try to make it Sunday, not sure. Stumpetto, nice blog posting! Sorry to hear you had it that bad. I know your pain, I ride BC on a hardtail everytime I ride it. Took me 2 summers to get to where I can come away from a ride and not be bleeding. Shattered my left elbow in the spring on the downhill side switchbacks and now have pieces of bone just floating. Shins and forearm pads will be with me from now on!
    That's real promising! I helped the PMBA out last week with some trail maintenance and this one dude there was waddling around on crutches. He had a limp leg. Apparently he spilled and wound up taking a brake lever to the calf so bad it lodged it's self into his calf. ... Yikes! Stuff I don't want to know about. I'd rather hurt myself on my own ignorance/stupidity, thanks...

    Anyways, it's 2:30 Saturday evening. I'm kinda buzzed right now. I'd give out my #, but am afraid of a serial rapist. IF anyone is up for a ride tomorrow at a later time than 10, post back up on here. I live about 45min to 1hr away and would gladly make the ride if I Had someone to ride w/.

    sleepy time. ...

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    By the time I was ready to go, it was too late in the day. Plus I read on BC's website that they recommend you ride with someone else. ... I'm not sure if that means they mandate it or not. Anyways, the next time I can ride will probably be the weekend of the 13th. So maybe we could arrange a ride there then?

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    Yeah, I couldn't make it out Sunday, had too much to do. The 13th is the Velo swap meet and I'm selling some stuff but would be up for an afternoon ride there if someone wants. You don't have to have someone with you allthough it's not a bad idea. You can't get lost but you can get hurt. I ride there all the time solo, but i will tell you that in all total, there's about 25 minutes of my life that I can't account for after coming to laying on the side of that mountain during various spills. (Yes, Chuck T, I signed the waiver!)
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    Gunnar... I knew a guy nicknamed Gunnar before... I even used to ride with him and his son often... Then one year he disappeared found his chosen riding buddy and left his crew in the dust... hmm, wonder if your the same one???

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    Nope, it's not me. I'm Gunner. Gunnar is my French speaking Cajun cousin.
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    I was in the Adirondacks for a long weekend doing some cabin maintenance but I am down to ride the 13th or 14th. I'm also going to the velo swap the 13th, Gunner you have a booth? I have some stuff to unload as well, whats it cost? I just rode BC Monday and brought my ASX, pain in the butt going up but well worth it. That was the most fun I've had there to date, I didn't leave until the sun went down and I pinch flatted for the 2nd time. They could easily host a DH race, it wouldn't be very long but fun for sure. Zillah

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    Gunner (my bad)... any reason why you never came out to any dd's rides this year??? just tryin to see if someone pissed ya off or what is the deal??? didn't even know you were still on the map until I bopped onto mtbr...

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    Oh and I forgot to mention my last trip to BC was the third consecutive trip picking up someones GU wrapper on the trails .

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1FNG
    Gunner (my bad)... any reason why you never came out to any dd's rides this year??? just tryin to see if someone pissed ya off or what is the deal??? didn't even know you were still on the map until I bopped onto mtbr...
    PM me with an email and identity and I'll discuss it. I don't respond to public call outs and sniping events.
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    It's Straus you cheesehead... Not a call out, just a simple question... Just wondering where ya been...

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    Oh, OK. I should have known by the profile. You're the only one i know who is in love with his own Unit that much. You know my deal, Hellooooo, I live in MD during the week and am busy on weekends with Scouts. Plus I don't like people anymore, i just tolerate them
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    If anyone's down, I plan on getting to BC tomorrow around 2. I have to work in the AM and I'm not sure when I'll leave, but I'm planning on leaving in time to make it there by 2. PM me your contact info if your interested in riding.

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    Trail closures

    The entry to the left side is closed off and the first 1/2 mile or so is closed off due to logging. No *****, it's a ski resort and they have to make money. But Chuck T. and the crew have done a sweet job trying to keep as much open as possible all summer.
    Busted my left knee up pretty bad last weekend so I'm probably done for the year up there unless they open the lifts for DH runs.
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    Chuck, did you do that after I saw you at the velo?

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    I finally rode BC last weekend too. Fortunatly, no broken bones! I ran into all of that construction but managed to do the loop regardless. I mostly stuck to the blue path but hit up the orange paths a couple times too. Unfortunatly, I went the wrong way around. I didn't know where the trails were, so I went into the lodge and asked. I think the guy in there wanted to torture me so he suggested I go counter clockwise. Either that or he wanted me to avoide the construction. But there was construction on both sides, so I think he just wanted to torture me. The accent was very rockey and I had to hike a bike a lot of it because it was just too difficult (for me?). I think that, combined with the construction that I had to hike-a-bike through kind of spoiled my experience a little. On the right hand side of the mtn, it was a lot of fun winding around some fun, pretty technical and rockey terrain up until the point where the construction was. After the construction the path is a really tight extremely rockey switch back that was pretty frustrating. I imagine it would be a lot of fun going down though. Regardless of the amount of up and down and winding around I did, it didn't seem to take long to get to the top. So that was nice. The left hand side of the mountain has a lot of different trails to choose from but it's no where near as rockey as the right hand side, so I had no problem getting my speed up (i ride a hard tail btw). With the amount of speed I gathered, it wasn't long before I ran into the construction on the left hand side. There was no construction going on, so I hopped the tape and cut right through. It took a while though, which sucked, but oh well. There was another half mile or so after the construction and I was back at my car. Total time I spent there was 2.5 hrs. I got turned around a couple times due to the construction and missed a couple trail markers, plus I made a couple detours. All in all it was fun, but could have been a lot better w/out the construction and if I went the other way around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gunner1
    I'm probably done for the year up there unless they open the lifts for DH runs.
    Unless we rig a system of ropes and pulleys to create a "chuck-dragger" system to get you to the top...

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