Saddles are a pricey experiment. I have stuck with WTB's while other varieties have not impressed me once I ride on them. I have bent the ti rails on my Laser V and it is time to replace. There are 3 eligible models that the differences are too subtle for me, even after reading the WTB web site:
Laser V Stealth 235 gr $130msrp
Rocket V Stealth 225 gr $130msrp
Pure V Stealth 240gr $130msrp
Thats a ton of fuss for 15 grams. Any other help as to typical aplication would be greatly appreciated.
p.s. I bent the Ti rails on my Laser V last year, too. I thought that I was pretty smart sending the saddle back to WTB to get new rails. It did not take long to bend them again this year, tilting to the same side.
I got one of each of the "stealth" models of Pure V, Rocket V and Laser V. still trying to decide which one's the winner.
Rocket V is very firm and narrow. if you don't like narrow saddles, skip it. however, for a firm, narrow saddle it is SUPER comfortable.
Pure V is like the old school original WTB saddle with about 1/2" more padding, super comfy but maybe too well-padded for some roadie snobs or others who like thin-padding saddles.
Laser V is sort of a combination of the two, as wide at the rear as the Pure V but with less padding -- its softness and comfort comes from the "tuned" undershell that the padding is bonded to. a bonus is that the sides of the saddle extend down further, so if you use your saddle as a spot to lever your inner thighs when you descend, you might prefer the Laser V.
I've never bent or broken a saddle rail, I'm a skinny dude (155 lbs) who doesn't sit down while riding rough terrain fast enough to cause the kind of bucking that might destroy a saddle's rails.
the Laser V is hard to pass up, it's wide enough to be comfy for all but the most narrow-hipped, and light enough to be compared to XC racerboy saddles. the additional thigh prop spots just increase the goodness.
I think I just convinced myself that the Laser V is the best of all 3 for my uses!
I got the Laser V Stealth after reading all the good reviews here. I've not been disappointed at all either, it's pricey, but if you shop around you can find them cheaper. I got mine for like $75 at one of the sales an online bike store was having.
'12 RM Slayer70, i9 Torch, Flow EX, XT Brakes, 5050 s3.
Laser V stealth is what I know fits. I won't experiment.
hands up who wants to die
The Stealth in WTB saddles is a slightly-harder plastic bottom layer. It does not give as much as the non-Stealth saddles. I prefer a little more cush for MTBing...
I would suggest the non-Stealth version of the Rocket, or else the Laser if you like wider seats.
I think they are calling the non-Stealth, ti-railed versions the "Team" model. I have been using Rocket Teams for a couple years and love 'em.
well described comparison....
the way i look at it for me, the Rocket V Stealth is a great trailbike saddle....for my lighter builds, I go with the Rocket V Stealth which is nearly as comfortable.
Do It Yourself
The Rocket has a bit more "dip" from front to back. Not bad but not my favorite. Other than that it's okay. I moved it over to my roadie/commuter.
The hardshell vs. the softshell is a personal preference thing. My friends that rode my softshell Laser described it like a vinyl foam toilet seat which seems appropriate. It was fine but I think I would probably go with the hardshell Stealth next time.
steel rail pure v
you know, if you're having trouble with rails bending on the WTB Ti rail saddles, you could go with a steel rail pure V instead. the rails on those are less likely to bend, or so i've been told. i've bent the ti rails on two (different) laser v stealth saddles in the last two years. I'm now riding the steel rail pure v (very comfy, although heavier) and haven't bent the rails yet. Get the rails replaced on your laser v and move it to your commuter, road, or xc bike.