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    Is it worth the money ?

    Hi all

    so like, I have a 2004 P.2, and when I first got it it rode perfict, like most bikes would. But shortly after I got it, I kinda went bankrupt ....till a few months ago basically. The P.2 ran completly stock, for DJ and mostly urban assault use, never could afford new brake pads, never could afford tires ... but then a few months ago I picked up a Specialized P.1 Cr-Mo. now the P.2 needs a LOT or work, the fork has been destroyed, beakes are dead, grips are paper thin, tires are bald ...figure around 300 bucks worth of work.

    I dunno, the bike is almost worth that much as it is now, even with upgrades it wont be worth much. but at the same time I could sell it, keep my 300 bucks and go out and get something like a Kona Shred to replace it. the kona wouldent have any problems

    has anyone been in a similar situation before ? whare your bike was kinda trashed, but you could buy a new bike for the money of selling it ?
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    You own 4 bikes and sell "stuff" to buy more bike stuff. Either you're a kid(and can be excused), or you might be an "adult"(and I use that term loosely) and "stuff" could be dope. So like, how come you're broke and own 4 bikes? Or is it because you own 4 bikes and that's why you're broke? If you're broke how do you keep any of them in running shape? I dunno. Something strange and cheap about someone using their signature area to sell stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fred3
    Something strange and cheap about someone using their signature area to sell stuff.
    Check it out, there's a few moderators around here that pioneered that sort of thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fred3
    You own 4 bikes and sell "stuff" to buy more bike stuff. Either you're a kid(and can be excused), or you might be an "adult"(and I use that term loosely) and "stuff" could be dope. So like, how come you're broke and own 4 bikes? Or is it because you own 4 bikes and that's why you're broke? If you're broke how do you keep any of them in running shape? I dunno. Something strange and cheap about someone using their signature area to sell stuff.
    wow there, slow down turbine ! I'm 17 and suffer from severe ADHD, theres no way in hell I can afford to have a job and go to school at the same time. So by me selling "stuff" its things that I have owned before, dont use anymore. (thus making ebay my best friend) I usually get old electronics fix them up, replace parts then sell them again.

    as for the 4 bikes

    1. 1999 Diamondback Venom (worth nothing)
    2. 2004 IHBC warrior ( trying to sell )
    3. P.1
    4. P.2

    Its none of your buisness at all for why I became broke for a while. it wasnt because of the bikes. how do I keep them in running shape ? maybe possible doing something called repareing the stock parts and haveing to run the bike completly stock I'm sorry if you have never had to do that before, but I have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobW
    Check it out, there's a few moderators around here that pioneered that sort of thing...
    huh ? i've seen lots of other people do the same thing. Didnt know it was a problem.
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    For me it would depend on how much you liked the P.2? It seems that you have enjoyed the bike while you have had it, so why not fix it and punish it some more.

    Damn fred3, jumping to some quick conclusions on what "stuff" might be. Maybe you could patronize todd_freeride some more or just have his phone calls spied on. Todd doesn't have to justify to you how he makes his money or why he didn't have any money.

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    There is a lesson here about priorities.

    At 17 you are asking for guidance. I guess fred just understood it in a different way. I guess it is the language that you use to describe the situation of your bike: "the fork has been destroyed, beakes are dead, grips are paper thin, tires are bald" or "has anyone been in a similar situation before ? whare your bike was kinda trashed." Nowhere is there a statement that "I destroyed my fork" or "I trashed my bike." In sport where maintenance and care are principles to keep us all rolling support for those who abandone those ideas can be spotty. At the same time those of us with years of experience might forget that we all had lessons to learn and forgot what it was like when we learned them.
    Sell what you don't need and take a loss. Use the cash to refurbish the ride you like best. Learn to take care of your bike as a priority to enjoy the ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkeley Mike
    At 17 you are asking for guidance. I guess fred just understood it in a different way. I guess it is the language that you use to describe the situation of your bike: "the fork has been destroyed, beakes are dead, grips are paper thin, tires are bald" or "has anyone been in a similar situation before ? whare your bike was kinda trashed." Nowhere is there a statement that "I destroyed my fork" or "I trashed my bike." In sport where maintenance and care are principles to keep us all rolling support for those who abandone those ideas can be spotty. At the same time those of us with years of experience might forget that we all had lessons to learn and forgot what it was like when we learned them.
    Sell what you don't need and take a loss. Use the cash to refurbish the ride you like best. Learn to take care of your bike as a priority to enjoy the ride.
    Earn the ride.
    No, I maintained them just fine, repared anything that really went wrong, but its more like "the destroyed fork" the internals are ruined beyond repair, it needs to be replaced because it doesnt work at all. Things are just brakeing, I have the money to fox the little things, but I mean there was a time when I had absolutly 0 dollars to spend on repairs. hell I even had to run front brake only because I couldent afford cables ! so chill out when it comes to maintaining it. I DID MY FREAKING BEST for what I had at the time.
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    Couple of thoughts

    Sounds like you ride your bike a lot and ride it hard. Nothing wrong with that, but as you see it takes it's toll on the bike. Why not ride the P.1 until you can afford to fix the P.2? Don't do all the repairs at once, either. Buy tires one month. Save a bit here and there, and keep your eyes peeled for a steal on a decent DJ fork that won't fold on a landing. Grips are another item you can find on ebay for dirt cheap. Don't look at the project as a whole, look at each item as it's own project. By springtime, the P.2 will be back in great shape.

    As for the cost of maintaining the bike meeting or exceeding it's current value over the life of the bike, that's something we all deal with. It's hitting you harder right now, becuase the cost wasn't $40 for tires one month, $20 for brake pads the next month, $10 for grips the next month, etc. Because you couldn't afford to replace them as they wore out, the cost mounted. Think about that, and I think it puts things in perspective.

    Lastly, buying a new bike won't solve the problem, IMO.

    Just my thoughts as always.

    Let us know what you end up doing.

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    What Clyde said....

    Fred3... it's so easy to judge without knowing the whole picture...

    I'm an adult. Responsible I think. Maybe you can't imagine what's like to struggle to buy a freaking set of brake pads but there are some of us who really struggle THAT hard.

    Been there, done that. Thanks, Clyde for putting my bike into running order again, BTW!

    Money is not always there, and if it's there, there are some priorities to attend. Diapers, food, rent, you name it.

    Maybe the guy has four bikes... so? I had a bike and then I had to sell it away because, situations change and one day you have the dough, the next one you just don't.

    Would he have a Turner worth of 5 grands and then suddenly he has no money to keep it running, does that make a strange situation? Can't it happen?

    Dude... seriously, money is not always there for the bike. Maybe you have plenty. God Bless you and keep it that way... but there are people who are not that lucky.
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    One more time.

    It doesn't matter what you tried to do, the result is what counts and now you are dealing with it. Wait until you see what happens when you defer maintenance on a car and you tell people you have 4 cars and they are all heaps. I think the reactions here are pretty normal and you are just in a weird spot.
    I have worked with a hundred kids around this very issue. Some need more support than others. Some never learn.
    Short and sweet. You have 4 bikes. Consolidate your resources and evaluate. Sell what you aren't using and don't need. Redistribute your resources to solidify the bike you will decide to commit to. These can be tough decisions but give yourself a break.
    The Sledgehammer is not worthless. You have to be able to sell if for a new set of tires, or pads and cables. The P2 may soak up more resources than it is worth ($100 fork repair, $60 tires, $25 cables and housings, $25 pads) and perhaps you need to sell it as is and just take your medicine. There is no shame in running Stock. Riding a catastrophe is a shame.

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