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    Oh! and Crank Brothers Eggbeaters and Candy peddles. What junk. My own fault though, I did'nt learn my lesson until 4 pair later.

    And Brooks B17 saddle. I still have haunting memories of the worst numbness I had ever experienced. This is by far the worst purchase ever. Fad saddle only, not meant for actual use.

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    ^Lol maybe for your ass. ...

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    Buying a FS bike from Sports Authority when my wife said "You'll be sorry". In 5 months the rims were out of true, seatpost bent from rear shock bottoming out and the fork was oozing black stuff. Had everything replaced under warranty and quickly sold it to someone to ride on the street and "look cool".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Federline View Post
    ^Lol maybe for your ass. ...
    Yeah, I heard they were great saddles and that's what made me buy one. Unfortunately it wasn't my ass that was going numb. I was convined that these saddles were meant for people without sexual organs.
    This is a regretfull purchase thread and that was my most regretfull purchase.

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    My apologies. Different strokes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Federline View Post
    My apologies. Different strokes...
    No sweat. I expected to take some heat for that comment. I know how much love there is out there for Brooks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWS View Post
    Also very mildly disappointed in my Avalanche Woodie shock. It's great but the guy from Avalanche was pretty adamant that it should be revalved (not just turning the knobs) if I go from a 400# spring to a 450. I said I like to experiment with different settings while I figure out what I want, he said I'm not the sort of customer they want. They want customers who already know what they want (or who buy what they're told they want). I later found something on their web site that says they can offer a valving with a broad range of adjustability but that never came up in the phone conversation. All of that said, it rides great - I have no complaints about that. Another good product that just isn't for me.
    that's interesting, and kind of sad for me to hear. I've loved all the stuff that I've owned that Avy has produced...I truly feel that they have a quality to their products that other manufacturers miss...and I have had mostly good experiences with Craig, such as a lengthy conversation about what shock would be suitable for a specific frame, and whether he could do anything with them aftermarket....but I've also heard from multiple people of their difficulties in trying to deal with him and get him to do what THEY wanted, rather than what HE wanted. He's also extremely picky about rebuilds and stuff. I've talked to him multiple times about trying to lighten parts up, change this or that, or whatever, and each one constitutes a complete rebuild plus all new parts and all sorts of craziness. There's no "sure, we can lighten your fork by removing a damper and installing a dummy rod, since we sell a fork just like that". It's "Oh, you'll need a new leg, lower, upper, spring, dummy rod, dropout, oil, letter to your parents, and two tickets to CATS". It always turned me off a bit to know that even he makes every single component of everything he sells, he can't figure out a way to swap them and make them easier to carry from frame to frame.

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    My Nicolai Helius AC Pinion. It has ruined derailleur equipped bikes for me.

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    Back in the early nineties, my overenthusiastic bike shop owner/friend/mechanic convinced me to commission him to build for me, what was probably the first eight speed cassette in the world. Eight cogs and thin spacers jammed on an XT 7 speed freehub body,
    weird looking dish on the wheel I recall. Thought I was gonna be groundbreaking in the good sense. I broke the ground alright.
    Wheel literally exploded on a fast downhill! No major injury but the wheel was so mangled, I could not even remove it from the frame! Chagrined mechanic built me a new wheel for free, and to this day I only ride a seven speed cassette! (Not really).

    Also went thru a wide variety of funky brake systems in an attempt to improve on the wretched cantilevers in the pre-Vee brake era. Interloc Racing Design Rollercams and Westpine Scissorcams were both overcomplicated, underpowered, experiments in engineering and machining that I threw money away on in a vain quest for predictable brakes.

    We have it much better these days. Most stuff now seems pretty reliable compared to the purple anodization era!
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    I built a DJ bike that I thought would be cool, with a parts spec that really spoke to my aesthetic and the local businesses that I liked at the time. The only problem was I am a poor dirt jumper and the bike, while spec'd perfectly for aesthetic sensibilities, rode like a cast iron pig. $1400 lesson learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwich View Post
    ...but I've also heard from multiple people of their difficulties in trying to deal with him and get him to do what THEY wanted, rather than what HE wanted.
    That is a nice summary of our conversation. And it's kind of a relief, because I thought it was just me!

    The other thing that bothers me about that shock is that the controls are practically inaccessible with the shock installed. I now suspect that this may have been a deliberate design decision.

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    Re: What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

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    I like platforms and honestly crank along damn good in them. I really think a lot of people who are staunch clipless riders use them as band aids for improper technique; much the same as a lot of full suspension riders use them to avoid using leg straightening and body position on a hard tail.
    This. I use and love both, but once I started hitting truly technical descending I found my decade of purely clipless use had left me with several bad habits. I had to really focus on flats for a few months to get to the same natural ease I have with clipless pedals, but it was worth it in the long run.

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    My next purchase?

    I want to buy a new bike next season. I have all kinds of justifications. My bike is 10 years old, newer geometry will help me ride better, bigger wheels will aid in getting over rocks and logs - i.e. the usual excuses but am I making a mistake?

    We all need to be honest with ourselves and admit we won't instantly become a better rider just because we have more suspension, bigger wheels, different paint or more gears.

    So my concern is that getting a new bike will be a mistake.

    Alas, life is full of mistakes and darn it, I want that new Tallboy LTc, Pivot 429 or Remedy 29 and any one of them will make me ride better and compensate for getting old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWS View Post
    The other thing that bothers me about that shock is that the controls are practically inaccessible with the shock installed. I now suspect that this may have been a deliberate design decision.
    I do agree that the screw or wrench-only adjusters are the biggest PITA you could design. Seriously why not a knob instead of a wrench flat or screwdriver slot? They did seem to work quite well though...

    At least now that the world of mountain bike suspension is getting demystified, you can get a quality shock from a lot of vendors...back in 1998 that wasn't the case!

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    Both 29ers that I bought. All the talk and reviews are very convincing but I felt like the wheels take more to get moving and kinda flop around when you need to steer quickly. I wanted to like them but I ended up selling one for a 26er and the other for a 27.5 both of which I feel ride much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev Bubba View Post
    I want to buy a new bike next season. I have all kinds of justifications. My bike is 10 years old, newer geometry will help me ride better, bigger wheels will aid in getting over rocks and logs - i.e. the usual excuses but am I making a mistake?

    We all need to be honest with ourselves and admit we won't instantly become a better rider just because we have more suspension, bigger wheels, different paint or more gears.

    So my concern is that getting a new bike will be a mistake.
    The purpose of a new bike is not to make you a better rider.

    The purpose of a new bike is to have more fun.

    Those two things are only very loosely related.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwich View Post
    I do agree that the screw or wrench-only adjusters are the biggest PITA you could design. Seriously why not a knob instead of a wrench flat or screwdriver slot? They did seem to work quite well though...
    Needing tools is only half of the problem - I'd need to drill a hole straight through the downtube to get a screwdriver to one of the compression adjusters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWS View Post
    The purpose of a new bike is not to make you a better rider.

    The purpose of a new bike is to have more fun.

    Those two things are only very loosely related.
    The purpose of a new bike is NEW BIKES ZOMG

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    Oh, right. That too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_slacker View Post
    Both 29ers that I bought. All the talk and reviews are very convincing but I felt like the wheels take more to get moving and kinda flop around when you need to steer quickly. I wanted to like them but I ended up selling one for a 26er and the other for a 27.5 both of which I feel ride much better.
    i'm the opposite. I rode a 650b for a year and thought it was a small improvement over 26. I'd rather go big (29) or go home (26) and save my money. I'm not sure of what the point of 650b is, nowadays, besides selling more bikes. I moved from 26 to 29 to 650b back to 29 and now also 29+, and 29 is where it's at, if you can get a decently designed bike, and they aren't easy to find.

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    I bought a Trek once....
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    I bought a trek 3700 once....

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    What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Squeal Out. Thought it would fix my avid elixirs. It didn't. Nothing did.

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    Marinovative cheap trick brakes (early v-brake) and tech-lite levers. Really cool at the time, but super sketchy brakes........lol.

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    5 piece multi tool... Frickin useless doesn't fit majority of things on bike!?

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    Hmm MTB crap products

    Shimano XT wheels - blew the free hub and bent the rear wheel within a few weeks, the least durable "All mountain" wheels ever.
    Original CODA (Cannondale) disc brakes circa 2001 - they just didn't stop, the V-brakes they replaces worked better
    Any Crank Bros pedal - I was at the point where I broke a pair of pedals every month, they would send me a new pair and I'd break them again.
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    Bought my bike last fall,so had about 10-12 pinch flats.
    I now own 15 tubes.
    I thought it was my fat ass,& side scorching rocks.
    Last flat was on flat gravel, i made a sharp turn,pop.
    I inspected the tire,no problem,rim,no pro....Wait!
    I found a small punch out from one of the spoke holes under the rim strip.
    Hardly noticable.
    No further trouble.

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    ^^It could be worse, kid I used to work with kept getting pinch flats, explained (in small words) what was happening--happened again the next day.

    "I put less air in, because then it won't pinch, with less pressure, right?"


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    before i got into biking I bought a hybrid bike....thought it was the best of both worlds (road and mtn) and realized that it was the worst of both worlds hahahaha....few months later it got stolen and i had to feign sadness

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    With the exception of maybe my old 97 Stumpjumper M2 hardtail frame, pretty much every major part I've ever bought for any bike has let me down at one point or another. Even the ridiculous, stupid money XTR parts. If a rear derailleur is only gonna last half a year, why not just buy alivio and just shrug when it grenades instead of being almost sick over a $100+ chunk of twisted crap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tothepeak View Post
    Sram brakes, XX and XO specifically

    Kenda Slant Six tires
    Maxxis Ardent tires

    those two tires go down as worst tires I've ever ridden.

    Crank Brothers Candy pedals. I am head over heels for my eggbeaters, and have never had an issue with them, but the Candy pedals are the worst pedals I've ever used
    Ha...love Ardents for a back tire. I run them on sandstone, silt, and loose over hard. Different strokes...

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    Avid BB7 brakes. Jaysus fook, are they horrible. 1st gen Ritchey clipless pedals. Rock Shox Boxxer. Ritchey Z-Max tires. Generic purple ano v-brakes. Ritchey Logic cantis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwich View Post
    the purpose of a new bike is new bikes zomg
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    WTB Nano race 40 x 700c tires. Not because they are bad or anything, just that they won't work with a wide rim so they are useless to me unless I build new wheels. Not building new wheels to run cross tires on my mountain bike.
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    My first bike was a size too small

    And 2014 Fox Float CTD BV is def one I'd like to undo, however there's only one way to learn.
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    Dropper post. While it does make some scary descents more fun, it's just not needed and cost to much plus another part to maintenance. I find that I lose to much time with my seat down as normally I'm pedaling on some downhill sections and at the end of the decent to get as fast as I can to go up the next hill. My times since getting the dropper have increased.

    Spending lots of money trying to weight weenie my bike. Built a second bike for friends out of my old xcal parts and tuned it the way I like it. Bike weighs 5lbs more then my other bike and just smoked my time on it. Lesson learned here is skill, training, and how well your bike is adjusted to you trumps weight weenieing to death!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Quint View Post
    Squeal Out. Thought it would fix my avid elixirs. It didn't. Nothing did.
    Take the pads out. IPA wipe till clean, put in oven at 400f for 30-60 min. Sand lightly and ipa wipe again. Ipa wipe the rotors, put pads back in and squeal be gone!!! Done this a bunch of times and it works. Avid Elixers seem to be a lot more sensitive to contamination.

    If it still squeals check caliper alignment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramborage View Post
    Take the pads out. IPA wipe till clean, put in oven at 400f for 30-60 min. Sand lightly and ipa wipe again. Ipa wipe the rotors, put pads back in and squeal be gone!!! Done this a bunch of times and it works. Avid Elixers seem to be a lot more sensitive to contamination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gingerdawg View Post
    India Plae Ale?
    Haha.... Yeah you can drink it to..... No IPA is rubbing alcohol. Isopropyl alcohol!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramborage View Post
    Take the pads out. IPA wipe till clean, put in oven at 400f for 30-60 min. Sand lightly and ipa wipe again. Ipa wipe the rotors, put pads back in and squeal be gone!!! Done this a bunch of times and it works. Avid Elixers seem to be a lot more sensitive to contamination.

    If it still squeals check caliper alignment.
    Yeah I did all that. Then I sold the brakes and got shimano.


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    Bought some rim tape to go with my tubeless conversion, only to realize it's "cloth" tape and not good for the conversion. $6.99 wasted, but I'll keep it in my tool drawer for a rainy day.

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    29er....

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    Way back in the day (early 90s) I was riding at Blue Marsh, PA. On the drive home we came across a bike shop and wandered in. Lo and behold they had a couple pairs of Sidi winter boots on super closeout. I went back on forth on which size to get but eventually settled and bought a pair. Weeks later I pulled them out of the box and - like an idiot - found I had purchased one right boot in each size. DOH! I never did go back to swap them.

    Oh, and Onza clipless pedals **shudder** ... I still have scars.

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    Bought a Bridgestone MB-3 when I had the money for an MB-0 but wanted a suspension fork. Never bought the fork, really liked the MB-3 but really really wish I had the Zip now.
    The most expensive bike in the world is still cheaper than the cheapest open heart surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by targeezer View Post
    Bought my bike last fall,so had about 10-12 pinch flats.
    I now own 15 tubes.
    I thought it was my fat ass,& side scorching rocks.
    Last flat was on flat gravel, i made a sharp turn,pop.
    I inspected the tire,no problem,rim,no pro....Wait!
    I found a small punch out from one of the spoke holes under the rim strip.
    Hardly noticable.
    No further trouble.
    Don't feel bad, almost every month I meet a person with a new bike that has frequent flat problems caused by rim imperfections not covered by a cheap rim strip. I always cover the stock rim strip with duct tape and I've not had one person ever replace the duct tape with another rim tape. I've got a pair of 33 year old rims that still have duct tape on them (from 33 years ago). On my last set of wheels I switched to Stan's Rim tape and it seems really good, we'll see if it lasts 33 years.
    The most expensive bike in the world is still cheaper than the cheapest open heart surgery.

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    a trek x cal 6... lol
    bike people are either some of the worst and most annoying people, or some of the coolest people you could meet.

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    2011 Second Hand Scott Genius LT30 for my son.
    The Genius twin lock system and proprietary DT equilizer 3 shock are a disaster.
    Unreliable, expensive to service and because of the design of the bike being a pull shock design you cant get a replacement, you are stuck with the DT shock
    Never ever buy a bike which use proprietary components such as shocks, forks

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoahPhillips View Post
    29er....
    ISO: 22" GT Rebound frame, year 2000 model

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    using tires that are not tubeless-specific on tubeless rims without tubes. I have tried three different tires that I got for free or in a trade with lousy results. it is possible to get a non-tubeless tire to seal up and hold for a while, but a tire that was designed to be used tubeless seals better and is much less likely to get sliced sidewalls. YMMV but I for one am not going to waste time on the headache. stick to tried and true tires that seal up right and stay there.

    also, lightweight tires in general. you don't need a boat anchor of a tire, but anything "lite weight" never seems to hold up to real trails.

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    I'm going to go with Scwhalbe racing ralph tires. Sure they rolled nice but traction was marginal and it was flats-o-rama. I would consider them more of a tube "covering" than an actual tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandwich View Post
    i'm the opposite. I rode a 650b for a year and thought it was a small improvement over 26. I'd rather go big (29) or go home (26) and save my money. I'm not sure of what the point of 650b is, nowadays, besides selling more bikes. I moved from 26 to 29 to 650b back to 29 and now also 29+, and 29 is where it's at, if you can get a decently designed bike, and they aren't easy to find.
    Just found this reply and wanted to come back to it. I actually bought 3 different 29ers.

    Misfit diSSent
    Trek/GF Superfly carbon (G2 geometry)
    Kona Raijin

    I don't know if all these bikes aren't 'decently designed' but I do know none of them were for me and I won't be buying any more 29ers.

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    Worst....1998 Cannondale Super V 1000. What a turd. Sucked going up, sucked coming down, sucked looking at it in the garage. Sold it after only 3 months and went back to my 1993/1994 GT Avalanche hardtail for another 4 years.

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    Huh. I just read through the entire thread, and I was a bit surprised about the hate for the Crank Bros. Candy's. I've been riding Candy C's, SL's and Candy 3's for at least ten years (I think they came out 2002'ish?), and have never, ever had a problem (although the cleats tend to wear fairly quickly). Ride 'em hard, show them a little maintenance love once in a while and they've been bombproof until the point where they were worn out.

    Maybe I'm just extremely lucky, but I'll take it. I still like them better than anything else I've ridden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flybigjet View Post
    Huh. I just read through the entire thread, and I was a bit surprised about the hate for the Crank Bros. Candy's. I've been riding Candy C's, SL's and Candy 3's for at least ten years (I think they came out 2002'ish?), and have never, ever had a problem (although the cleats tend to wear fairly quickly). Ride 'em hard, show them a little maintenance love once in a while and they've been bombproof until the point where they were worn out.

    Maybe I'm just extremely lucky, but I'll take it. I still like them better than anything else I've ridden.

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    Peddles are love/hate components. People love what they have and hate everything else. When I got SPDs I loved them, when I started using Eggbeaters I loved them and found shortfalls (perceived) in SPDs. People who love SPD's don't generally like other brands. Just how it goes.
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    785mm bars and bar ends together. NOT a happy combination. Thought I'd need the bar ends due to a fused cervical spine and a shoulder injury.

    Ummm, no. Let's just say that the drawbacks outweigh the benefits.

    So, they're coming off. And the pipe cutter's going to be used on the bars. 725 was a bit narrow (setup with X0 Grip Shifts), but 785 is too wide. There's a happy medium in there somewhere I'm sure.

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    Schwalbe Rock Razor 650b 2.35 tire ^^ don't get me wrong, I love the tire - when trails are rocky etc. but trails in my neck of the woods tend to be rooty/damp/muddy the majority of the year... RR will only get used at the height of summer...
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    What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Bought a giant xtc, didnt last long and bought a mach 6. Xtc is collecting dust ever since.


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    Beautiful but too small!
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    When I was young and foolish I bought an Infinity (supermarket brand) full suspension bike. I 'm a big guy so within 5 rides: snapped chain, mangled rear derailleur, warped both wheels, on top of it weighing 40lbs, flexing like a rubber band and bouncing around like a pogo stick.

    I gifted it to my 11yr old nephew because they wouldn't warranty it.

    *edit. and not MTB related but from my 80's BMX days, hutch bear traps. My shins shuddered just looking at this image.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMC FS View Post
    No sweat. I expected to take some heat for that comment. I know how much love there is out there for Brooks.
    I bought the B17, and had the same issue. Unbearable on the taint no matter the angle. Same with the Aliante for the road. Luckily I am a slow learner, I got the Team Pro and it is hands down, the most comfortable saddle for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clyde250 View Post
    I bought the B17, and had the same issue. Unbearable on the taint no matter the angle. Same with the Aliante for the road. Luckily I am a slow learner, I got the Team Pro and it is hands down, the most comfortable saddle for me.
    Loved my road Aliante so much, I got a dirt one for the MTB too.

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    i've only been riding since march so here goes
    bought a used trek 850 xc and didn't check the seat post. got it home and it was seized in the frame, ended up cannibilizing parts off of it for a gary fisher i bought cheap.
    buying cheap tire levers and tubes
    bought the wrong front disk brake bracket wanted a front and bought a rear.
    bought the wrong bb for the crankset i bought.
    time will tell but a set of hayes 9 carbon brakes, should have gotten the prime expert..

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    SPD pedals and shoe's, they just aren't for me. The only benefit is being able to pull up hard when climbing. I can pull upwards climbing with flat's so its not a huge benefit. Everything else feel's geeked though, hopping stuff it promotes poor technic, no ability to shift foot placement, dabbing a foot makes you almost have to unclip in anticipation of it. Heaven forbid you want to toss a 1 footed flatty on some flow trail's, that's asking for trouble.
    I like to fart when I'm in front of you on a climb

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    Bike with negative standover clearance.

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    Bike with negative standover clearance.
    That almost describes my 21" Stumpy hard tail...

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    Spent all of my money on a bike with wrong frame size (2" too big), meaning almost no clearance between the top tube and my crotch and having to get a 50mm stem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krudler View Post
    When I was young and foolish I bought an Infinity (supermarket brand) full suspension bike. I 'm a big guy so within 5 rides: snapped chain, mangled rear derailleur, warped both wheels, on top of it weighing 40lbs, flexing like a rubber band and bouncing around like a pogo stick.

    I gifted it to my 11yr old nephew because they wouldn't warranty it.

    *edit. and not MTB related but from my 80's BMX days, hutch bear traps. My shins shuddered just looking at this image.

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    Dude, I'm in Illinois. The only place anyone would come from that would say this area is hilly is Kansas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DIRTJUNKIE View Post
    OUCH! Are you sure that's not some mid evil torture device. Or a Grizzly Bear leg trap.
    These were THE sh!t back in the day! I still have scars on my shins from these, and I was wearing leathers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairbanks007 View Post
    These were THE sh!t back in the day! I still have scars on my shins from these, and I was wearing leathers.
    Ha! Get off my lawn, I still run Oddyssy Triple Traps on one of my rigs. About the same amount of toothiness, the guys at the bike shop always complain and show me the fresh blood when they take it out for the post repair test ride!
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    130mm stem because I thought the longer reach would be better for my height. Expensive numerous baggy shorts which were hotter then heck and constantly caught on the seat and rubbed on my knees. Buying an old used bike for "cheap" that almost fit and then spending more than a good bike would cost in the right size on cheap "upgrades" from ebay and the clearance bin.

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    After 20+ years of flawless performance from Shimano systems, I purchased SRAM brakes and BB/Cranks. Both have had nothing but problems in the first 300 miles.

    Never again, SRAM. Shimano for me from now on.

    Why would I even considering changing brands after so many years and so many miles of flawless performance with, admittedly, woefully inadequate maintenance on my part? Because I'm stupid. Well done, SRAM, you got me once. Never again.

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    I paid $2000 for a Pro Flex 856, with the elastomer suspension that barely moved and fork full of pivots that needed regular disassembly and greasing.

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    Crank Bros. Eggbeaters - after years of using different spd pedals I decided to give Eggbeaters a try. While they might be great in most enviroments, they absolutely don't work in southern read clay. The cleats clogged immediately forcing you to stop, dismount, find a stick, dig the clay out. Not a problem after returning to spd.

    Easton CT2 handlebar - I paid a fortune for this bar. I rode it problem free for a year or so then decided it was time for new grips. When I took the old grips off and loosened the brake levers and shifter to put the new grips on I noticed the deep gouges where the levers had been. When I removed the stem faceplate there were deep gouges there too. The thing had to be close to a scary failure.

    New inner tubes - I still use tubes. So recently I bought a bunch to replace old tubes. Most of the new tubes leak down overnight. If you're lucky they might hold the right pressure for a ride or two but most leak down to unrideable pressures in a matter of hours.

    Semi slick tires - I bought a set of Bontragers when they were all the rage. In the summer my local trails are dry and fast so semi slicks seemed like they would work. Not at all, my local trails have quite a bit of sand. Semi slicks and sand are a terrible combination. Without the rolling resistance of knobbies I'd fly down the straight sections of trail then have the tires wash out in the corners with just a sprinkling of sand. They lasted one ride.

    Sram PC 90 chain - I swore by Sachs chains. They were great, lasted for years, never failed. So when I needed a new chain I looked for a Sachs. I bought a Sram chain after finding out they'd purchased Sachs. With less than 90 miles on the new chain it snapped on a climb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldTiGuy View Post
    Crank Bros. Eggbeaters - after years of using different spd pedals I decided to give Eggbeaters a try. While they might be great in most enviroments, they absolutely don't work in southern read clay. The cleats clogged immediately forcing you to stop, dismount, find a stick, dig the clay out. Not a problem after returning to spd
    I also tried eggbeaters and thought they sucked mightily. No spring adjustment and really difficult to get out of in a low speed tech riding situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldTiGuy View Post
    Crank Bros. Eggbeaters - after years of using different spd pedals I decided to give Eggbeaters a try. While they might be great in most enviroments, they absolutely don't work in southern read clay. The cleats clogged immediately forcing you to stop, dismount, find a stick, dig the clay out. Not a problem after returning to spd.
    I went to Eggbeaters and Candies because my SPD's kept getting clogged.

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    buying a coil sprung fox float fork for my superlight. can't remember the model name but it was a very plush dirt jumper fork ill matched to the stiff air shock in the back. that thing turned my santa cruz climb like a loaded dualie tractor trailer over the donner pass...

    my 1990-something GT karakoram frame. it was WAY TOO SMALL--you can see how big i look on it. then, i made questionable setup decisions that made descending on this bike a questionable experience.

    those are the two most glaring i can think of right now. i'm sure i've made more.
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    Expensive tires for my cheap hybrid.
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    Needed a hitch mount rack for a road trip. Picked up a 3 bike Swagger rack from craigslist last minute. It had the mounting system where you screw a plate down onto the bikes top tube. The rubber padding seemed a bit weathered but all there. Low and behold get to the trail head found the rubber padding had split allowing the plate to put nasty gouges in the top tubes of all 3 bikes! Uggh lesson learned!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    I went to Eggbeaters and Candies because my SPD's kept getting clogged.
    Came from both SPD & time and now egg beaters. Love'em!!! No issues and love the float they have and very easy to come out of when needed.

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    Egg beaters (first generation). On a steep descent I hit a rock with the underside of the pedal, foot released, pedal rolled under foot and I nutted myself so faulking bad it took 10 minutes just to stand up. Egg beaters pulled off the bike that night. Oh yeah, that was on my first ride with them.

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    Avid Juicy Ultimate brakes.................total shyte.

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    Can't remember anything in particular, but it probably had something to do with going cheap and then having to deal with it's crappyness and then replacing it with what I should have gotten in the first place.

    Going cheap usually ends in heartache, not to say everyone should go for top-of-the-line, but bottom of the barrel will always be bottom of the barrel.

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    Was on a MTB race team back in the early 1990s. We got sponsored by Softride Suspension Stems. I think my shoulders still have yet to recover. It was amazing how much the bars rocked in the stem even when new.

    Retired my old but still fine original SPDs (which I still have and they still work!) and went with some new tech, Onza Clipless Pedals (I still have these as well). These were the ones with the elastomer "springs" under the retention plates. The elastomers came in different colors for different retention adjustments. Those things were the absolute worst piles of crap to ever be bolted to the end of a crank arm.

    Early carbon road bars, I cannot remember the brand. I broke them at the Cat's Hill Crit while pulling up on them going UP THE HILL! SNAP! Thank God it wasn't on the downhill portion of this crit. YIKES! I was parked about 1/2 block away and just loaded up my bike (bar dangling by the cables) and drove away counting my lucky stars.

    Cool thread. I'm enjoying all the reads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by algs911 View Post
    Was on a MTB race team back in the early 1990s. We got sponsored by Softride Suspension Stems. I think my shoulders still have yet to recover. It was amazing how much the bars rocked in the stem even when new.

    Retired my old but still fine original SPDs (which I still have and they still work!) and went with some new tech, Onza Clipless Pedals (I still have these as well). These were the ones with the elastomer "springs" under the retention plates. The elastomers came in different colors for different retention adjustments. Those things were the absolute worst piles of crap to ever be bolted to the end of a crank arm.

    Early carbon road bars, I cannot remember the brand. I broke them at the Cat's Hill Crit while pulling up on them going UP THE HILL! SNAP! Thank God it wasn't on the downhill portion of this crit. YIKES! I was parked about 1/2 block away and just loaded up my bike (bar dangling by the cables) and drove away counting my lucky stars.

    Cool thread. I'm enjoying all the reads.

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    ONZA PEDALS!!!! hooray for components that become completely useless in mud!!!

    (but it never rains in california enough to make mud any more)

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    ONZA PEDALS!!!! hooray for components that become completely useless in mud!!!

    (but it never rains in california enough to make mud any more)
    Well, maybe I should resurrect the pedals then! Ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manbat View Post
    i can think of loads but for me i really think its got to be getting right into all the weight weenie give me your money bull, yeah i can see the point in dropping some weight (within reason) from wheels and tyres but dropping a few grams from frames, forks, seat post etc etc is just nonsense...unless of course your competing in the tour de france

    by the way my weight weenie bike creaks like a mofo
    ... but it is fun when you have nice disposable income to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    ONZA PEDALS!!!! hooray for components that become completely useless in mud!!!

    (but it never rains in california enough to make mud any more)
    Hilarious, I came here to vent about the Onza pedals I bought back in the 90's. Glad to hear I was not the only one who regretted buying those death traps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Pinche View Post
    Hilarious, I came here to vent about the Onza pedals I bought back in the 90's. Glad to hear I was not the only one who regretted buying those death traps.
    My first clipless pedals!

    Black elastomers if you never ever wanted to be able to get out of them

    Blue elastomers if you never ever wanted to be able to get out of them

    and then white elastomer if you never ever wanted to be able to get out of them

    Love having options!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KevinGT View Post
    My first clipless pedals!

    Black elastomers if you never ever wanted to be able to get out of them

    Blue elastomers if you never ever wanted to be able to get out of them

    and then white elastomer if you never ever wanted to be able to get out of them

    Love having options!
    the thing is, was that their bar ends and tires were pretty good. i ran onza bar ends for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    the thing is, was that their bar ends and tires were pretty good. i ran onza bar ends for years.
    I also ran an Onza Buzzsaw 22t inner chainring.

    Onza was headquartered in Santa Monica, CA and I drove right past their warehouse on the way home from work. I stopped in a few times to have them look at my pedals (didn't help) but I always walked out with tons of stickers. I still have about 30 Onza Porcupine stickers in a shoebox. Classics?

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