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    Quote Originally Posted by Funrover View Post
    X2, I can completely relate.
    Clip This !


    Yes that's my foot stuck in my Clipless pedals, yes that's my Rockhopper 29 Comp, yes that's trees, yes that's the sky above and yes I'm on my way down into a rock strewn gully I now call the Witch's Crack in Sycamore Canyon California. My bike was tossed into a grass bank, I landed on the rocks below on my Hydration pack and my helmet. Both the bike and I escaped without a scratch. Cause: Stalled at the top of my pedal stoke couldn't unclip. Effect: Next ride Spike Spanks & Five Tens.

    Clipless = Road Bikes (don't be fooled) Who clips in in Red Bull Rampage ? Anyone ?

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    ergon grips
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    Re: What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHank View Post
    Clipless = Road Bikes (don't be fooled) Who clips in in Red Bull Rampage ? Anyone ?
    Who ran flats at the DH world's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Who ran flats at the DH world's?
    I'm really not sure about either but I wish someone at that level would comment about the use of either clips and plats.

    Thanks,

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    mistakes in no particular order - avid brakes, spank spike pedals, fox rp23

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    Buying a bike that was obviously too big for me because it was on clearance. I should have just spent the extra money up front on a not-on-sale bike that fit as I've now spent way more than I would have swapping frames and a multitude of other components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53119 View Post
    mistakes in no particular order - avid brakes, spank spike pedals, fox rp23
    I have them and like them. What don't you like about them (other than the price)

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    Buying some Bos suspension.

    I've had companies send me the wrong stuff before, I've never had a company be actively hostile to me for daring to point it out, nor have I ever been told that if I want the right parts I'll have to buy them again full price.

    Expensive way to find out just how true the rude Frenchman stereotype is...

    On the flip side, Magura saved the day! Thanks Germans (and Si of Magura UK)!

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    My biggest mtb purchasing mistake was buying crappy saddles in the past. Hurt like hell. I don't remember what they were...just that they came from the shop's bargain bin for like $9.99 or something. Owww.

    I've been buying decent saddles lately, so my butt has been pretty happy.

    My biggest bike purchasing mistake was the last commuter frame I bought. On-One Pompetamine. Cool idea, but the rear dropouts/disc tabs are finicky SOB's. I spent more time fiddling with them and trying to get the brake caliper aligned with the rotor than I actually did riding it. It spent most of this summer on the workstand. I'm replacing it with a Salsa Vaya, which I hope works out better for me and is a long term bike.

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    Re: What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHank View Post
    I'm really not sure about either but I wish someone at that level would comment about the use of either clips and plats.

    Thanks,

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    They mention it in the commentary.
    I think it was Sam Blenkinsop running flats and almost everyone else running clipless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHank View Post
    I have them and like them. What don't you like about them (other than the price)

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    spanks - went thru 2 bearing kits in a few months in great hero dirt conditions w/zero strikes. i really love the platform but did not like the bearing problems. user error? bad batch? bad luck? maybe but didn't want to hang out. spesh bennies at half the price instead w/straitline pins. would try spanks again though cuz platform size/thickness is great.

    rp23- for a used enduro frame(spesh oem new take off) to replace an rp2. did not like the compression tune and lack off mid stroke support even with volume tweak. weak on grip(got spoiled on ccdb coil) considered push but fortunately rode a rs monarch plus pushed and never looked back. great aftermarket shock on ANYTHING.

    avid brake- just personally comparing them to shimano on bite, modulation and ease of bleed for me is why i switched. have tried the new trail brakes but still give the nod to shimano zee.

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    My 2014 hardrock. Why did I not just spend the extra $80 and get the disc version.
    Then again, everyone on this forum probably frowns upon me for not buying used for first bike...instead, I got entry lvl!

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    Stupid seat bag -- Girreaux, or something like that. What a piece of s---. Even properly secured (and this is no mean feat figuring THIS out from the crappy instructions), it bounces loose from the saddle, because the main strap only secures the last 1/5th of the sack, and soon it swings beneath the saddle like a single bloated testicle, until momentum breaks the strap completely free, and then it's simply life-threatening.

    I've suffered with this f*cker for two months. Well, that's not exactly true: quit using it after the 3rd ride, but recently had a flat and of course my tube and tools were 23 miles away, in this piece of sh*t seat bag in my garage, so went back to using it.

    Tomorrow I'm buying a camel-back.

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    What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    My biggest mtb purchasing mistake was buying crappy saddles in the past. Hurt like hell. I don't remember what they were...just that they came from the shop's bargain bin for like $9.99 or something. Owww.

    I've been buying decent saddles lately, so my butt has been pretty happy.
    Once you find the "one" I've gone through a dozen saddles trying to find the right one and have discovered MY saddle is the Giant flow 1. Nothing fancy. Just fits my ass perfect an I can ride in it all day/race. I have three now. One on each bike. Bought a brooks b17 for my fixed gear cus I thought it was the stylin' thing to do but I hate the brooks especially on a 24 mile commute at 5am. At that hour I just wish I had the ability to coast and my osprey full of piping hot coffee. I swapped that sucker out with a flow 1 ASAP

    Anyone wanna buy a cheap newish brooks?



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    What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Thank goodness I was a penny pinching bastard and bought an older used Brooks B17 for my commuter on fleabay. Saved lots of money and it was already broken in. A very comfy saddle.

    I would probably not be able to tolerate breaking in a new Brooks.

    The other saddle I like on my mtb is a Specialized Rival MTB. I used the Ass-O-Meter to pick the size and it's been a great saddle for me on up to 7hr rides.

    I regret purchasing Slime tire liners many years ago. They were crap. Shortly after installing them, a honey locust thorn (very much like a framing nail) pierced the tire and that crappy liner. When I started buying good tires, I stopped having problems with big thorns like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Doesn't everyone have an orphan 1.5" stem on their bench?
    I have it on my bike.

    I regret having every single one of my bikes, as right now I can build up several that are better (or just different and new, which is really the same thing), but I can find no reason to get rid of the old ones. Maybe if I bought some crap it would have been easier to discard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    My biggest mtb purchasing mistake was buying crappy saddles in the past. Hurt like hell. I don't remember what they were...just that they came from the shop's bargain bin for like $9.99 or something. Owwwe.
    I'm running a Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow Kevlar/Carbon seat.
    Damn, it hurts. But at that price, I'm going to see if I can get used to it...

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    rookie mistakes,right?
    ...live and learn.
    ...No more buying xtra tires just because they're cheep.
    ...They don't do much good after they get all dried out.
    I wish tire makers published dates of manufacture and possible expiration dates for the materials they're made of.
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    Buying about 30 tubes and then converting my all my tires over to tubeless. It'll take me years to go through the tubes. Also buying schrader tubes when my wheels valve openings are only wide enough for prestas

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    Dropping 120$ bucks on Kenda Slant 6's for my 29ers just to find out you cant run them tubeless haha... bought wrong pair.

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    My biggest MTB purchasing mistake was a Giant. The most expensive frame I've ever bought, and the first frame that cracked under my butt.

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    Super awesome newb mistake:

    Circa 1999.
    Bought my first bike (1998 Voodoo Hoodoo CroMo Hard Tail)
    Bought some cheap SPD's at Performance
    Found a clearance table...found clipless shoes that fit for $24.00

    Hit the trail and could not figure out why I was slipping all over the place when I stepped off on rocks...it scared the crap out of me to put my foot down because the shoes would just slide all over the place.

    Yeah...this dumb newb had bought roadie shoes. HA!
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    Buying Spesh Winter clipless boots last month (they were in a sale and wanted some for years) before converting to Flats this month :/

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    I've bought parts on a whim only to use them for a month or 2 and swap back to stock.

    I bought a CF seat post while in China last year. used it for about 3 rides before I took it off and benched it. The seat clamps wouldn't hold the saddle rails and let it slip all the way back, and the clamp would squeak. drove me nuts. I was only out $35 though.

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    1. When I bought my first bike, purchasing frame based on LBS "recommendation" as to size even though I could tell it was too big for me.
    2. Cheap carbon parts from china.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitr0 View Post
    My 2014 hardrock. Why did I not just spend the extra $80 and get the disc version.
    Then again, everyone on this forum probably frowns upon me for not buying used for first bike...instead, I got entry lvl!

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    Nahh, IMO everyone should buy their first bike new. If you don't know what to look for, used bikes are hit or miss.
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    My first bike. Actually, a good bike, but I found out it wasn't right for me. Should have spent a few more bucks and gotten something else. It got stolen 6 weeks ago, so now I have to buy another. I am hoping to do my homework a lot better this time, and getting something that is just what I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduff View Post
    Buying Spesh Winter clipless boots last month (they were in a sale and wanted some for years) before converting to Flats this month :/
    Spesh Defroster winter boots might be the single best bike product I've ever bought! I guess I'm thin-blooded, but they opened up a lot of extra riding to me. I've been out in Maryland when my water bottle froze, but even here in Arizona I use them all winter long.

    One man's feast is another man's famine, I guess ....

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    Not spending the extra $600 dollars for the bike i really really wanted! Time to start saving again
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeCOLORADO View Post
    Bought some cheap SPD's ...
    ...found clipless shoes that fit for $24.00

    Hit the trail and could not figure out why I was slipping all over the place .... Yeah...this dumb newb had bought roadie shoes. HA!
    Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding we have a winner, folks.

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    Flat pedals with flat shoes when I first started. Wish I would've just gone clipless from the get-go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluntrager View Post
    Flat pedals with flat shoes when I first started. Wish I would've just gone clipless from the get-go.


    Clipless pedals with SPD shoes when I first started. Wish I would've just gone with flat pedals and flat shoes from the get-go.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Galeforce5 View Post
    My first bike. Actually, a good bike, but I found out it wasn't right for me. Should have spent a few more bucks and gotten something else. It got stolen 6 weeks ago, so now I have to buy another. I am hoping to do my homework a lot better this time, and getting something that is just what I need.
    I hear ya on this one. I got an entry level hardtail 29er with 100mm travel for my first bike...then I quickly found its limits, so I just spent a few more bucks ($4600) on something more gravity oriented (160mm front and rear)! I guess you can't put an a price on learning though hah!

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    @DirtyHank, interestingly opposite! I'm sure I'll appreciate my flats when I get a DH rig one day, but right now, the heat I'm takin from the old lady for spending nearly $400 on two sets of shoes and pedals isn't worth it haha.

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    Bought a Specialized FSR Enduro Comp back in 98 or so (first year they had sealed bearings in the pivots) without a proper test ride. Front Rock Shox fork bottomed out easily on any setting(they eventually came thru with a firm ride spring N/C) but the biggest problem was the frame was very weak in the BB/pivots, enormous flex in grinding situations with lots of creaking. Standing and grinding felt like it would snap, basically gave it away. Went back to a hardtail for another 8 years.

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    '96 GT karakoram frame--too small.

    early 2000's coil-sprung fox float 1R fork--poorly matched to the air sprung rear shock on my superlight.

    some sort of 36-spoke front wheel, can remember what rim or hub but it was IMPOSSIBLE to get tires on and off the damned thing.

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    Dirt jumper 1 fork for my trail bike, either stiff with 2 inches of travel or awful brake dive. Tried, air pressure, oil level and, oil weight just couldn't make it happy. Also charge spoon seat, looked nice, nice shape, but too stiff and too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spykr View Post
    I bought alloy chain ring bolts once. Once.
    So did I.

    They're still going well...

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    Year long adventure pass. Used it twice in that year, for parking at San Juan. Actually bought it out of remorse, since I didn't have one the first time I went. Not sure what the money goes to; the ruts on that trail are so big that they're like a luge channel.

    Roadie bibs as undershorts/liners. How are you supposed to use the restroom with these things?

    Various cheap tires. I've been so spoiled by Maxxis tires for dry SoCal dirt that nothing else really seems acceptable. One place where I notice "cheapness" big time. I feel like I could ride a cheap bike, as long as it has decent tires, but not a top of the line bike with crappy tires.

    Expensive cycling specific socks as replacements. My 2 year old insoles apparently were needing replacement pretty badly; so badly that my big toe was going raw from rubbing on the inside of the shoe, and I lost a few socks to toe-blowout this way. Got some expensive replacements, and they went out in a single ride. My fault. I realized it was the insoles after noticing the pattern of where the holes were forming, so I took insoles from another pair of shoes and stuck in 'em and no more sock problems. Not sure if any sock would've survived that, but it did show that just because socks are expensive that they haven't really solved the issues like toe blowout. I'm pretty happy with the NLZ ones I've been wearing for the past 3 years, losing only maybe 2-3 pairs worth out of the 6 pairs I initially ordered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    So did I.

    They're still going well...
    One snapped while warming up before a race and had to be replaced with a derailer hanger bolt. Another broke while re-assembling the crank after the rings had been taken off to give the crankset a soak in a parts washer to get super clean and shiny. Swapped for steel after that. I threw form over function once, and never again shall I do so.
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    Just a month or so ago purchased lightweight 9mm front hub thinking it could be converted to 15mm thru axle with Stan's end caps. Nope. Not even close. Shipped back to Canada for refund, but the shipping took a nice chunk out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley View Post
    I used to work for a shop that did these super thorn-proof setups for about 30 bucks a wheel. It would consist of tire liners, a heavy duty thorn proof tube, and sealant inside that tube. On road bikes with 23mm tires, I found it hard to believe that there was any room left for air.
    I must be working at the same shop you left. The salespeople are constantly pushing this ridiculous combo without any consideration to the mechanics. I feel like committing suicide every time I have to do one of these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocop View Post
    I must be working at the same shop you left. The salespeople are constantly pushing this ridiculous combo without any consideration to the mechanics. I feel like committing suicide every time I have to do one of these things.
    Amazing how many people can not change a tube. But your salespeople are right. Everybody hates flat tires.

    I do run one of those stupid thick tubes with slime on my commuter, but with 32mm tires. Did not puncture it so far - gravel road, with seasonal star thistle. Not worth it trying to set up and maintain proper tubeless.

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    Gore Tex Ride-On sealed cables. They were amazing just after installing them, but after a couple rides the teflon coating gummed up and made them impossible to shift.

    Tires were usually the biggest let down. Putting a new tire on my bike always made me more motivated to go ride. When you end up with a tire you hate is an immediate let down. Larson TT, and a couple bontragers were some that didn't work for me.

    Spin Skins. They were kevlar liners for your tires that were supposed to keep thorns from poking through. I lived in the desert at the time and flats were common. These things did nothing to prevent thorns.

    ISIS standard the day they came out. I got a raceface next crankset when they came out with the isis standard. Burned through 3 bottom brackets in the next couple of weeks. Finally found one that would hold up for more than a few weeks. FSA was great about warranty. I had two of those and when one went bad I'd swap to the other one and send it off for warranty.

    Paul Love levers for v-brakes. Bought them because they were the lightest thing out. They needed constant maintanence to keep from getting sticky and had horrible leverage. Didn't realize how bad they were until I switched to some XTR levers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manbat View Post
    Buying a complete bike and replacing every part on it so it is exactly how I like it..and after a few months buying a better frame.
    This is exactly what I am in the process of doing. Wasn't sure I would like MTB. I do so I bought an entry levelish HT 29ER. Starting to replace the parts I think could be better.

    But I think of it as a learning experience. I need to know what I like. How ji ride and what is actually worth the price of admission to me.
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    My first mountain bike was purchased in 1986. A Trek 860 Antelope if I remember correctly. I road trails for several years, then converted it into a commuter bike and turned into a road biker and hiker.

    Fast forward to around 2008 and I read they are building a mountain bike park less than 2 miles from my house. I decide to get back into the sport, so I go to the national chain bike store (mistake #1) and buy a FS Teocali Elite all mountain bike by Mongoose (which was a good name back in 1986 when I bought my first bike). I had no idea about anything - I just wanted a bike and I wanted it right now.

    I still have it as a spare, but compared to my tallboy Ltc, it is a waste of good metal. Should have gone to a lbs, gotten good advice, and bought a bike that would serve better as my introductory ride and subsequent backup bike. Not as disaster like some have posted, but definitely a mistake.

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    What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    That's quite a step up. Do you ride the LTc in the park? I'm gonna take mine this summer.

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    Not mine, but I think this qualifies as a pretty big mistake: 2014 Giant Anthem Advance 1 275 Medium - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories

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    Quote Originally Posted by westin View Post
    Yea Giant Bikes.......

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