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    Quote Originally Posted by Funrover View Post
    X2, I can completely relate.
    Clip This !


    Yes that's my foot stuck in my Clipless pedals, yes that's my Rockhopper 29 Comp, yes that's trees, yes that's the sky above and yes I'm on my way down into a rock strewn gully I now call the Witch's Crack in Sycamore Canyon California. My bike was tossed into a grass bank, I landed on the rocks below on my Hydration pack and my helmet. Both the bike and I escaped without a scratch. Cause: Stalled at the top of my pedal stoke couldn't unclip. Effect: Next ride Spike Spanks & Five Tens.

    Clipless = Road Bikes (don't be fooled) Who clips in in Red Bull Rampage ? Anyone ?

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    ergon grips
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    Re: What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHank View Post
    Clipless = Road Bikes (don't be fooled) Who clips in in Red Bull Rampage ? Anyone ?
    Who ran flats at the DH world's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Who ran flats at the DH world's?
    I'm really not sure about either but I wish someone at that level would comment about the use of either clips and plats.

    Thanks,

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    mistakes in no particular order - avid brakes, spank spike pedals, fox rp23

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    Buying a bike that was obviously too big for me because it was on clearance. I should have just spent the extra money up front on a not-on-sale bike that fit as I've now spent way more than I would have swapping frames and a multitude of other components.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 53119 View Post
    mistakes in no particular order - avid brakes, spank spike pedals, fox rp23
    I have them and like them. What don't you like about them (other than the price)

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    Buying some Bos suspension.

    I've had companies send me the wrong stuff before, I've never had a company be actively hostile to me for daring to point it out, nor have I ever been told that if I want the right parts I'll have to buy them again full price.

    Expensive way to find out just how true the rude Frenchman stereotype is...

    On the flip side, Magura saved the day! Thanks Germans (and Si of Magura UK)!

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    My biggest mtb purchasing mistake was buying crappy saddles in the past. Hurt like hell. I don't remember what they were...just that they came from the shop's bargain bin for like $9.99 or something. Owww.

    I've been buying decent saddles lately, so my butt has been pretty happy.

    My biggest bike purchasing mistake was the last commuter frame I bought. On-One Pompetamine. Cool idea, but the rear dropouts/disc tabs are finicky SOB's. I spent more time fiddling with them and trying to get the brake caliper aligned with the rotor than I actually did riding it. It spent most of this summer on the workstand. I'm replacing it with a Salsa Vaya, which I hope works out better for me and is a long term bike.

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    Re: What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHank View Post
    I'm really not sure about either but I wish someone at that level would comment about the use of either clips and plats.

    Thanks,

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    They mention it in the commentary.
    I think it was Sam Blenkinsop running flats and almost everyone else running clipless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHank View Post
    I have them and like them. What don't you like about them (other than the price)

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    spanks - went thru 2 bearing kits in a few months in great hero dirt conditions w/zero strikes. i really love the platform but did not like the bearing problems. user error? bad batch? bad luck? maybe but didn't want to hang out. spesh bennies at half the price instead w/straitline pins. would try spanks again though cuz platform size/thickness is great.

    rp23- for a used enduro frame(spesh oem new take off) to replace an rp2. did not like the compression tune and lack off mid stroke support even with volume tweak. weak on grip(got spoiled on ccdb coil) considered push but fortunately rode a rs monarch plus pushed and never looked back. great aftermarket shock on ANYTHING.

    avid brake- just personally comparing them to shimano on bite, modulation and ease of bleed for me is why i switched. have tried the new trail brakes but still give the nod to shimano zee.

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    My 2014 hardrock. Why did I not just spend the extra $80 and get the disc version.
    Then again, everyone on this forum probably frowns upon me for not buying used for first bike...instead, I got entry lvl!

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    Stupid seat bag -- Girreaux, or something like that. What a piece of s---. Even properly secured (and this is no mean feat figuring THIS out from the crappy instructions), it bounces loose from the saddle, because the main strap only secures the last 1/5th of the sack, and soon it swings beneath the saddle like a single bloated testicle, until momentum breaks the strap completely free, and then it's simply life-threatening.

    I've suffered with this f*cker for two months. Well, that's not exactly true: quit using it after the 3rd ride, but recently had a flat and of course my tube and tools were 23 miles away, in this piece of sh*t seat bag in my garage, so went back to using it.

    Tomorrow I'm buying a camel-back.

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    What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

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    My biggest mtb purchasing mistake was buying crappy saddles in the past. Hurt like hell. I don't remember what they were...just that they came from the shop's bargain bin for like $9.99 or something. Owww.

    I've been buying decent saddles lately, so my butt has been pretty happy.
    Once you find the "one" I've gone through a dozen saddles trying to find the right one and have discovered MY saddle is the Giant flow 1. Nothing fancy. Just fits my ass perfect an I can ride in it all day/race. I have three now. One on each bike. Bought a brooks b17 for my fixed gear cus I thought it was the stylin' thing to do but I hate the brooks especially on a 24 mile commute at 5am. At that hour I just wish I had the ability to coast and my osprey full of piping hot coffee. I swapped that sucker out with a flow 1 ASAP

    Anyone wanna buy a cheap newish brooks?



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    What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Thank goodness I was a penny pinching bastard and bought an older used Brooks B17 for my commuter on fleabay. Saved lots of money and it was already broken in. A very comfy saddle.

    I would probably not be able to tolerate breaking in a new Brooks.

    The other saddle I like on my mtb is a Specialized Rival MTB. I used the Ass-O-Meter to pick the size and it's been a great saddle for me on up to 7hr rides.

    I regret purchasing Slime tire liners many years ago. They were crap. Shortly after installing them, a honey locust thorn (very much like a framing nail) pierced the tire and that crappy liner. When I started buying good tires, I stopped having problems with big thorns like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    Doesn't everyone have an orphan 1.5" stem on their bench?
    I have it on my bike.

    I regret having every single one of my bikes, as right now I can build up several that are better (or just different and new, which is really the same thing), but I can find no reason to get rid of the old ones. Maybe if I bought some crap it would have been easier to discard.

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    Re: What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    Quote Originally Posted by NateHawk View Post
    My biggest mtb purchasing mistake was buying crappy saddles in the past. Hurt like hell. I don't remember what they were...just that they came from the shop's bargain bin for like $9.99 or something. Owwwe.
    I'm running a Selle Italia SLR Gel Flow Kevlar/Carbon seat.
    Damn, it hurts. But at that price, I'm going to see if I can get used to it...

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    rookie mistakes,right?
    ...live and learn.
    ...No more buying xtra tires just because they're cheep.
    ...They don't do much good after they get all dried out.
    I wish tire makers published dates of manufacture and possible expiration dates for the materials they're made of.
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    Buying about 30 tubes and then converting my all my tires over to tubeless. It'll take me years to go through the tubes. Also buying schrader tubes when my wheels valve openings are only wide enough for prestas

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    Dropping 120$ bucks on Kenda Slant 6's for my 29ers just to find out you cant run them tubeless haha... bought wrong pair.

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    My biggest MTB purchasing mistake was a Giant. The most expensive frame I've ever bought, and the first frame that cracked under my butt.

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    Super awesome newb mistake:

    Circa 1999.
    Bought my first bike (1998 Voodoo Hoodoo CroMo Hard Tail)
    Bought some cheap SPD's at Performance
    Found a clearance table...found clipless shoes that fit for $24.00

    Hit the trail and could not figure out why I was slipping all over the place when I stepped off on rocks...it scared the crap out of me to put my foot down because the shoes would just slide all over the place.

    Yeah...this dumb newb had bought roadie shoes. HA!
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    Buying Spesh Winter clipless boots last month (they were in a sale and wanted some for years) before converting to Flats this month :/

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    I've bought parts on a whim only to use them for a month or 2 and swap back to stock.

    I bought a CF seat post while in China last year. used it for about 3 rides before I took it off and benched it. The seat clamps wouldn't hold the saddle rails and let it slip all the way back, and the clamp would squeak. drove me nuts. I was only out $35 though.

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    1. When I bought my first bike, purchasing frame based on LBS "recommendation" as to size even though I could tell it was too big for me.
    2. Cheap carbon parts from china.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitr0 View Post
    My 2014 hardrock. Why did I not just spend the extra $80 and get the disc version.
    Then again, everyone on this forum probably frowns upon me for not buying used for first bike...instead, I got entry lvl!

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    Nahh, IMO everyone should buy their first bike new. If you don't know what to look for, used bikes are hit or miss.
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    My first bike. Actually, a good bike, but I found out it wasn't right for me. Should have spent a few more bucks and gotten something else. It got stolen 6 weeks ago, so now I have to buy another. I am hoping to do my homework a lot better this time, and getting something that is just what I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macduff View Post
    Buying Spesh Winter clipless boots last month (they were in a sale and wanted some for years) before converting to Flats this month :/
    Spesh Defroster winter boots might be the single best bike product I've ever bought! I guess I'm thin-blooded, but they opened up a lot of extra riding to me. I've been out in Maryland when my water bottle froze, but even here in Arizona I use them all winter long.

    One man's feast is another man's famine, I guess ....

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    Not spending the extra $600 dollars for the bike i really really wanted! Time to start saving again
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeCOLORADO View Post
    Bought some cheap SPD's ...
    ...found clipless shoes that fit for $24.00

    Hit the trail and could not figure out why I was slipping all over the place .... Yeah...this dumb newb had bought roadie shoes. HA!
    Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding we have a winner, folks.

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    Flat pedals with flat shoes when I first started. Wish I would've just gone clipless from the get-go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluntrager View Post
    Flat pedals with flat shoes when I first started. Wish I would've just gone clipless from the get-go.


    Clipless pedals with SPD shoes when I first started. Wish I would've just gone with flat pedals and flat shoes from the get-go.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Galeforce5 View Post
    My first bike. Actually, a good bike, but I found out it wasn't right for me. Should have spent a few more bucks and gotten something else. It got stolen 6 weeks ago, so now I have to buy another. I am hoping to do my homework a lot better this time, and getting something that is just what I need.
    I hear ya on this one. I got an entry level hardtail 29er with 100mm travel for my first bike...then I quickly found its limits, so I just spent a few more bucks ($4600) on something more gravity oriented (160mm front and rear)! I guess you can't put an a price on learning though hah!

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    @DirtyHank, interestingly opposite! I'm sure I'll appreciate my flats when I get a DH rig one day, but right now, the heat I'm takin from the old lady for spending nearly $400 on two sets of shoes and pedals isn't worth it haha.

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    Bought a Specialized FSR Enduro Comp back in 98 or so (first year they had sealed bearings in the pivots) without a proper test ride. Front Rock Shox fork bottomed out easily on any setting(they eventually came thru with a firm ride spring N/C) but the biggest problem was the frame was very weak in the BB/pivots, enormous flex in grinding situations with lots of creaking. Standing and grinding felt like it would snap, basically gave it away. Went back to a hardtail for another 8 years.

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    '96 GT karakoram frame--too small.

    early 2000's coil-sprung fox float 1R fork--poorly matched to the air sprung rear shock on my superlight.

    some sort of 36-spoke front wheel, can remember what rim or hub but it was IMPOSSIBLE to get tires on and off the damned thing.

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    Dirt jumper 1 fork for my trail bike, either stiff with 2 inches of travel or awful brake dive. Tried, air pressure, oil level and, oil weight just couldn't make it happy. Also charge spoon seat, looked nice, nice shape, but too stiff and too small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spykr View Post
    I bought alloy chain ring bolts once. Once.
    So did I.

    They're still going well...

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    Year long adventure pass. Used it twice in that year, for parking at San Juan. Actually bought it out of remorse, since I didn't have one the first time I went. Not sure what the money goes to; the ruts on that trail are so big that they're like a luge channel.

    Roadie bibs as undershorts/liners. How are you supposed to use the restroom with these things?

    Various cheap tires. I've been so spoiled by Maxxis tires for dry SoCal dirt that nothing else really seems acceptable. One place where I notice "cheapness" big time. I feel like I could ride a cheap bike, as long as it has decent tires, but not a top of the line bike with crappy tires.

    Expensive cycling specific socks as replacements. My 2 year old insoles apparently were needing replacement pretty badly; so badly that my big toe was going raw from rubbing on the inside of the shoe, and I lost a few socks to toe-blowout this way. Got some expensive replacements, and they went out in a single ride. My fault. I realized it was the insoles after noticing the pattern of where the holes were forming, so I took insoles from another pair of shoes and stuck in 'em and no more sock problems. Not sure if any sock would've survived that, but it did show that just because socks are expensive that they haven't really solved the issues like toe blowout. I'm pretty happy with the NLZ ones I've been wearing for the past 3 years, losing only maybe 2-3 pairs worth out of the 6 pairs I initially ordered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NordieBoy View Post
    So did I.

    They're still going well...
    One snapped while warming up before a race and had to be replaced with a derailer hanger bolt. Another broke while re-assembling the crank after the rings had been taken off to give the crankset a soak in a parts washer to get super clean and shiny. Swapped for steel after that. I threw form over function once, and never again shall I do so.
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    Just a month or so ago purchased lightweight 9mm front hub thinking it could be converted to 15mm thru axle with Stan's end caps. Nope. Not even close. Shipped back to Canada for refund, but the shipping took a nice chunk out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley View Post
    I used to work for a shop that did these super thorn-proof setups for about 30 bucks a wheel. It would consist of tire liners, a heavy duty thorn proof tube, and sealant inside that tube. On road bikes with 23mm tires, I found it hard to believe that there was any room left for air.
    I must be working at the same shop you left. The salespeople are constantly pushing this ridiculous combo without any consideration to the mechanics. I feel like committing suicide every time I have to do one of these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocop View Post
    I must be working at the same shop you left. The salespeople are constantly pushing this ridiculous combo without any consideration to the mechanics. I feel like committing suicide every time I have to do one of these things.
    Amazing how many people can not change a tube. But your salespeople are right. Everybody hates flat tires.

    I do run one of those stupid thick tubes with slime on my commuter, but with 32mm tires. Did not puncture it so far - gravel road, with seasonal star thistle. Not worth it trying to set up and maintain proper tubeless.

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    Gore Tex Ride-On sealed cables. They were amazing just after installing them, but after a couple rides the teflon coating gummed up and made them impossible to shift.

    Tires were usually the biggest let down. Putting a new tire on my bike always made me more motivated to go ride. When you end up with a tire you hate is an immediate let down. Larson TT, and a couple bontragers were some that didn't work for me.

    Spin Skins. They were kevlar liners for your tires that were supposed to keep thorns from poking through. I lived in the desert at the time and flats were common. These things did nothing to prevent thorns.

    ISIS standard the day they came out. I got a raceface next crankset when they came out with the isis standard. Burned through 3 bottom brackets in the next couple of weeks. Finally found one that would hold up for more than a few weeks. FSA was great about warranty. I had two of those and when one went bad I'd swap to the other one and send it off for warranty.

    Paul Love levers for v-brakes. Bought them because they were the lightest thing out. They needed constant maintanence to keep from getting sticky and had horrible leverage. Didn't realize how bad they were until I switched to some XTR levers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manbat View Post
    Buying a complete bike and replacing every part on it so it is exactly how I like it..and after a few months buying a better frame.
    This is exactly what I am in the process of doing. Wasn't sure I would like MTB. I do so I bought an entry levelish HT 29ER. Starting to replace the parts I think could be better.

    But I think of it as a learning experience. I need to know what I like. How ji ride and what is actually worth the price of admission to me.
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    My first mountain bike was purchased in 1986. A Trek 860 Antelope if I remember correctly. I road trails for several years, then converted it into a commuter bike and turned into a road biker and hiker.

    Fast forward to around 2008 and I read they are building a mountain bike park less than 2 miles from my house. I decide to get back into the sport, so I go to the national chain bike store (mistake #1) and buy a FS Teocali Elite all mountain bike by Mongoose (which was a good name back in 1986 when I bought my first bike). I had no idea about anything - I just wanted a bike and I wanted it right now.

    I still have it as a spare, but compared to my tallboy Ltc, it is a waste of good metal. Should have gone to a lbs, gotten good advice, and bought a bike that would serve better as my introductory ride and subsequent backup bike. Not as disaster like some have posted, but definitely a mistake.

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    What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    That's quite a step up. Do you ride the LTc in the park? I'm gonna take mine this summer.

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    Not mine, but I think this qualifies as a pretty big mistake: 2014 Giant Anthem Advance 1 275 Medium - Buy and Sell and Review Mountain Bikes and Accessories

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    Quote Originally Posted by westin View Post
    Yea Giant Bikes.......

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    worst things ive purchasd.

    xo brakes (never again - shimano all the way)
    ardent tyres (faceplant a-go-go)
    crank brother candy pedals (two weeks and then in the bin)

    not bad considering how much stuff ive bought over the years - my wife would kill me if she knew the 'truth'. i just dont buy anything our than music and bike things.

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    Once, a long time ago, I paid MSRP for a bike related purchase.
    Sad but true.



    Stuff I've bought that ended up sucking:

    Time Alium pedals - I've seen potato chips handle more abuse than those things. Shattered 3 of them in a season, but have had SPDs last for years on end under the same riding.

    THE pinch-flat-proof rims - single suckiest component I've ever owned. There no way to remove a tire from them short of cutting either the tire or rim. Never even rode them before hacksawing them apart to save my tires.

    Manitou suspension.

    Grip Shift.

    Goretex cable/housing kits.

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    2003 Specialised epic, hated that bike so much.
    2012 Cannondale Synapse Carbon roadie, seems there is a reason for the cracknfail tag...
    Flexstem, yeah not so good.
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    The new trek x-cals are marked e2 on the headset, so I bought a tapered fork upgrade... Only to find that it was an error on the part of the factory. I paid tax, import duty etc that I couldn't claim back when I returned the fork.

    Other than that, a set of clipless pedals after having been on flats forever... A dangerous mistake until I saw sense 4 weeks and 4 falls later...
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    Flexstem, yeah not so good.
    Oh man, how could I have forgotten that...
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    Kenda klimax tires.

    I was seduced by the light weight... Never mind that they had the grip of an octagenerian. Several falls later and I was eager for a grippier, heavier tire.

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    I got talked into buying the $300 pair of shoes that I kept saying was too big, instead of the $150 pair that felt really great. My feet hurt so much from sharp pains that would end my rides early, that I had to go and buy another pair that actually fit my feet.

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    I got a knockoff WTB saddle from a now defunct internet retailer. The seam where the Kevlar corners were sewn to the "leather" were raised about a millimeter. The first ride I did on the saddle was 30 miles. By the time we finished I could hardly sit. Have had issues with saddle sores ever since.
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    Usually the biggest mistake is buying a cheaper bike or bike version and then spending more money upgrading. For example I have bought a Trek Fuel Ex 7 and then changed the wheels, the tires, the brakes, the drivetrain, the seat, the stem and the handlebars! So almost everything except for the frame and the fork and rear shock were upgraded.

    The positive however is that I have chosen the parts I wanted during upgrading rather the parts that would have been stock with a higher version. Alternatively I could have just bought the frame and built it up from scratch and save some money.

    Two more mistakes that I have done in the past was buying the wrong size (XL instead of L and M instead of L in two different bicycles) and also buying a 100mm FS 29er just because I liked how it looked when I really needed a 140mm FS 26er.

    Anyway. All these mistakes made me wiser and poorer !

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    Not knowing that I would get addicted I bought a decent starter bike. Since then I've upgraded everything except the frame and wheels. I guess it's been a learning process. I know what I want in my next bike.

    Oh, buying a kenda nevergo (nevegal) tire ranks up there too. Way more knob than I need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Wassa View Post
    Acrylic inner tubes from Foss. All three that I've had have exploded when the tyres heated up while the bike was in the sun. The sunlight can be somewhat intense here in Oz, far too intense for the Russian made Foss inners. Also, they were advertised as being one of the lightest inner tubes going, the Foss acrylic inners were actually the heaviest inner tubes that I've ever used.

    I had a Giant XTC hardtail with Kenda Small Block 8s and Avid squealing pigs on it. The person/s who stole the bike, a few years ago now, did me a huge favour, although it didn't feel like it on the day ... I feel that got my own back on them, although indirectly of course, knowing that they stole an extremely uncomfortable bike and it would be only a matter of time with the Small Block 8s, before the thief washed out on it ... and hopefully now has an acquired brain injury.

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    That's some good information, thanks for that. Rivendell is pushing those tubes and I wondered about them. They looked heavy, but for a time I had serious problems with flats so I was considering them. Now glad I haven't tried them.

    I should have a bunch of mistakes to relate, but off the top of my head only a few come to mind:

    * after taking a hiatus from riding for about 7 years I'm at a well known local shop that specializes in used parts and get a knobby tire. How was I supposed to know that the kids these days had gone to 27" knobbies?

    * Buying a bike a little too small for me from a Craigslist seller. Hopefully I'll get a little bit out of it when I put it on Craigslist this spring. Part perceived peer pressure (arranged the meeting, costing them time), part hopefullness (it's pretty close to the right size...), part feeling committed already (I took two buses to get here and would prefer to ride home...).

    * Buying a pair of 700C fenders from a Craigslist seller because I felt bad arranging the meet up with him and didn't realize they weren't my size until I got there (brand/size seems much more common in 26"). Gave them to a friend of mine who actually has a 700C city bike that needs to get out and ride and we live in Seattle...so all to the good in the end, and I was only out $15 and my time.

    * I'm tempted to include my snow tires. I'm sure they're great tires, but I'm starting to think I'll never need them in Seattle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hey_poolboy View Post
    Not knowing that I would get addicted I bought a decent starter bike. Since then I've upgraded everything except the frame and wheels. I guess it's been a learning process. I know what I want in my next bike.

    Oh, buying a kenda nevergo (nevegal) tire ranks up there too. Way more knob than I need.

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    Just wait it out, those knobs will fall off within a year. :P

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    Those videos sold me, I'm too old and fat and responsible for that kind of caper

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    trek rig 2011, igorned the reviews on the rear wheel moving, although there weren't as many bad reviews when I bought mine. What an awful turd of a bike.

    Klein Palomino with the original ill-designed Maverick Monolink, again ignoring the wealth of bad reviews since I bought it used...nothing like an unexpected down shift into the granny ring while flying downhill, or unexpected shift and chain suck at the most difficult part of a technical uphill climb. I still can't believe Maverick charged $225 to replace their POS design...what a sorry company.

    So when I finally jumped into the waters on the dropper post last month and my GD Classic wouldn't work right, I just returned it for a refund...And with the GD purchase I learned from the volumes of negative reviews on RS,KS,Crank Bros., and Specialized, that I wasn't going to ignore the negative feedback...

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    Just wait it out, those knobs will fall off within a year. :P
    It's currently sitting in the garage waiting for a DIY studded tire job. Those things just don't roll! :-)

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    What are the MTB purchasing mistakes you have made?

    For you old timers out there... First buying a Manitou II elastomer fork then "upgrading" it with Arlo Englund Total Air cartridges. Most dangerous bike component I ever rode.

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    Avid BB5s. Brakes are supposed to make the bike stop right? Not force me to try and break the brake lever while wide-eyed and white knuckled.

    I got them for free and they stayed on my bike for about 10 miles, one terror filled ride of doom. My old busted Hayes Nines went right back on. Im ordering Shimano Deore Hydros tomorrow.
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    Avid BB7 brakes - I had them on a commuter, no way in hell I'd ever use them on a real mountain bike.
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    Hylix Cheap ass chinese carbon bars.

    Stated to allow bar ends, max tightening 6nm. They cracked under half of that torque before I even got to ride them. Then an ordeal to try and get a refund.

    Should spent $25 more and gotten something from a US seller with legit parts..

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    Avid BB7 brakes - I had them on a commuter, no way in hell I'd ever use them on a real mountain bike.
    You must have had a set off BB7 roads, a properly set up bb7 Will run with most hydros

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin_Federline View Post
    You must have had a set off BB7 roads, a properly set up bb7 Will run with most hydros
    No sir, the craptastic chunks of plastic and EZCorrode alloys [patent pending] were the much-vaunted BB7 standard "brakes". Metal pads, compressionless housing, SD Ultimate levers, aftermarket rotors collectively helped a little, but not enough to turn the set I had into anything other than a step down from a Tektro v-brake. YMMV
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    Weird, my BB7s are great when I'm flying down the side of a hill.

    The only regretful purchases I've made are gear choices - bought a few wrong sizes and low quality pieces, but I made it all work.

    I'm starting to question my choice of bike (wish I would've gone hardtail vs. rigid), but I by no means regret my purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkrobe View Post
    No sir, the craptastic chunks of plastic and EZCorrode alloys [patent pending] were the much-vaunted BB7 standard "brakes". Metal pads, compressionless housing, SD Ultimate levers, aftermarket rotors collectively helped a little, but not enough to turn the set I had into anything other than a step down from a Tektro v-brake. YMMV
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    Sram brakes, XX and XO specifically

    Kenda Slant Six tires
    Maxxis Ardent tires

    those two tires go down as worst tires I've ever ridden.

    Crank Brothers Candy pedals. I am head over heels for my eggbeaters, and have never had an issue with them, but the Candy pedals are the worst pedals I've ever used

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    Avid bb7's, twice.
    Shimano xtr 965 wheel set, super noodles
    Ti black sheep bar...it broke
    Easton carbon bars, they broke
    Cannondale headshok, locked up while compressed
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    Cafe latter tire sealant, boo
    Jaguar Marta brakes. Lever bolt rattled loose while in pigsgah, NC. had no rear brake the whole day.
    Pace rc31 carbon rigid fork. Joke. Broke that.

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    Back in 2001 I lived in Mammoth CA, and I bought a 4" travel Heckler when i should have gotten the original freeride machine SC Bullitt, since all I wanted to do was jump off stuff and ride the DH trails.

    Buying numerous cheap wheels over the years, when I should have just ponied up and gotten a set with really good hubs in the first place.

    Buying stuff cheap on sale because it's a good deal even though it isn't really exactly what you wanted...

    Buying a singlespeed when I live in the Rockies and already was good friends with my granny gear. So dumb. put about 80 miles total on that experiment.

    Running cycling shoes that were too tight for a number of years before I tried on some that actually had toe room and realized it. Incredibly, also I did the same thing with snowboard boots. Why did I think tight footwear=the way it was supposed to be?!?!

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    Hmmm been a few over the years, onza porcupine tires, scott shocks early 90's, ali derailleur cogs even now I am fighting buying red ones for my bike, I need an intervention.
    Oh I bought the wrong size headset, most I say is tire choices, with the forums though that has gotten better with real rider reviews not some BS mag saying these rock when they don't. Shimano shoes uggg I hate them and would never buy them again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gouda Cheez View Post
    Weird, my BB7s are great when I'm flying down the side of a hill.
    Im very happy with mine. Ive been running some pretty nice Formula hydros the past couple years but just put a set of BB7's with Speed Dial levers on my hardtail. They lack the modulation of the hydros but the power is great. Every bit as powerful as any high end brake Ive used, and considering you can get the whole set with levers, cables and rotors for $120 bucks they're a great option for a low budget build.


    Mistakes - spending big $ on high end hydro brakes when BB7's are up to the job.

    My first mountain bike, a Gary Fisher Marlin. Hated that bike. It tried to throw me over the bars every ride. Sometimes it succeeded. Turns out the fork was way under sprung for my weight, but I didnt know about that stuff at the time and the LBS was no help.

    Ive regretted pretty much every lightweight tire Ive bought. They just dont hold up to every day riding for me.

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    On top of the mistakes I already made I am preparing to make another. I have a 2013 Fuel Ex 7 fully upgraded to XT and Fulcrum Red Zone and eventhough it is great for 90% of my ride I plan to buy another one 160+mm AM bike that I really don't need it but I want it!

    Still resisting though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobine View Post
    For you old timers out there... First buying a Manitou II elastomer fork then "upgrading" it with Arlo Englund Total Air cartridges. Most dangerous bike component I ever rode.
    on that note, I had a quadra 5 that shot it's PLASTIC top cap right into my chest on a big compression. It hit me square in the breastbone, if I hadn't been so well positioned, I would have lost an eye. Those cockbags recalled it shortly thereafter with stronger PLASTIC top caps.

    I have had zero luck with RS forks (Three shitty boxers, and a shitty Reba, and a slowly leaking pike).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ifrider2 View Post
    Avid bb7's, twice.
    Shimano xtr 965 wheel set, super noodles
    Ti black sheep bar...it broke
    Easton carbon bars, they broke
    Cannondale headshok, locked up while compressed
    Caffe
    Cafe latter tire sealant, boo
    Jaguar Marta brakes. Lever bolt rattled loose while in pigsgah, NC. had no rear brake the whole day.
    Pace rc31 carbon rigid fork. Joke. Broke that.
    WOW that is one impressive list of broken stuff! Well done

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkrw3 View Post
    WOW that is one impressive list of broken stuff! Well done
    Yeah, and the one constant is the rider...

    Just saying

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    1) Blur LTc - I don't know what people are talking about when they say this bike is great riding uphill...
    2) FSA compression plug - Tried using it in an aluminum steer tube to replace hammering in a star nut. Plug kept slipping and I couldn't pre-load the bearing properly.
    3) Speedplay zeros - They're not Look's.
    4) WTB Volt saddle - great for numbing

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    Shocked at the BB7 comments...If set up properly will stop as good as hydros.

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    I loved my BB7's. They take a little bit of fiddling every now and then but were incredibly reliable for me. I upgraded to XT's and will never look back, but I still love and recommend BB7s for those on a tight budget.

    As far as regrettable purchases:
    1. "Ritchey" Bar ends - they snapped within seconds of just putting weight on them. They were obviously fake - didn't know at the time, and no, I did not buy them on eBay.
    2. Jagwire Ripcord cables - $30, didn't notice the slightest difference in performance. Money down the drain.
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    My #1 disappointment was a fully rigid bike that I bought around 1991 or so. Bent the bars, cranks, and the fork before getting a suspension fork. Suddenly stuff stopped failing. I blows my mind to see people jumping rigid bikes these days, that did not work out well for me at all.

    AEST magnesium pedals. They're light, and cheap, so of course they're not strong. It turns out that they are just as fragile as they look. Not strong enough for a very light pedal strike - as I was coming to a stop to catch my breath, on my second day riding them. I've never damaged a pedal with a strike before or since. Busted a couple pins, but never hurt the pedal itself.



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    I was also mildly disappointed in my Transition Double, because even the large size was too cramped for my 6 foot self. But if you're less tall I'm sure it's a fine bike.

    Also very mildly disappointed in my Avalanche Woodie shock. It's great but the guy from Avalanche was pretty adamant that it should be revalved (not just turning the knobs) if I go from a 400# spring to a 450. I said I like to experiment with different settings while I figure out what I want, he said I'm not the sort of customer they want. They want customers who already know what they want (or who buy what they're told they want). I later found something on their web site that says they can offer a valving with a broad range of adjustability but that never came up in the phone conversation. All of that said, it rides great - I have no complaints about that. Another good product that just isn't for me.

    Also, every fender I've ever tried, except for a THE front that has worked out really well. I've been through about 4 rears though and they all sucked for one reason or another. Usually it's the terrible mounting mechanism that ultimately makes me chuck them (or, in one case, it just fell off and was never seen again). I do have one that mounts securely but it is so flimsy that it drags on the rear tire every time I land a jump.

    And Surly single-speed cogs. So much chain skip. I think it's the rounded tips of the teeth - I've had much better luck with cogs that have square(er) teeth.

    On the flip side: Hope brakes (V2, X2), Canfield Jedi, Transition Rev32 wheelset, Azonic Outlaw wheelset, Kindshock adjustable seatposts, Specialized Fasttrack tires... all have been fantastic. I really haven't got much to complain about.

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    Those lasted half a season and cost me a race. rebuilt with Flow EX rims, much stiffer and a better match for my size and riding style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc2211 View Post
    The new trek x-cals are marked e2 on the headset, so I bought a tapered fork upgrade... Only to find that it was an error on the part of the factory. I paid tax, import duty etc that I couldn't claim back when I returned the fork.

    Other than that, a set of clipless pedals after having been on flats forever... A dangerous mistake until I saw sense 4 weeks and 4 falls later...
    As an update. I'd like to add a PlanetX SLX carbon CX bike I bought in January. I went by the sizing chart on their website and didn't 100% check the geo. Turns out it was tiny with a super short ETT length. I think that even 2 sizes up would have been to small.

    Not learning from my previous clipless woes, I thought I could live with 10+ cm of toe overlap. My broken wrist and continuing pain 6 months later tells me otherwise...

    I found their CS was kind of lacking too (they were initially really cool and offered by email to exchange the frame, then when I accepted they ignored all my emails and calls until I gave up and sold the bike privately).
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    Nokion segmented cable housing kit for the bling. It stated it was lighter than regular housing, but what a PITA to install and service. All those nipple segments was like stringing bead necklaces. And you'd drop them all over the place. And the thing would wear into the frame like a saw. And the bling would flake off after a few months and you'd have ugly ass corroded looking fishing lead look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc2211 View Post
    As an update. I'd like to add a PlanetX SLX carbon CX bike I bought in January. I went by the sizing chart on their website and didn't 100% check the geo. Turns out it was tiny with a super short ETT length. I think that even 2 sizes up would have been to small.
    That reminds me... I ordered "G-Form Pro-B Compression Shorts" a couple weeks ago, and the sizing chart said that "Medium" would fit 30-35". I assumed that meant a 30-35" waist but apparently it really meant height. I've been wearing 33" and 34" jeans for years (in fact I'm wearing 34" jeans as I write this) and these shorts were much too small. Not just tight-fitting. Way too small.

    Thankfully, Universal Cycles has a good exchange policy.

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    Profile Design Aero bars. Bought before they had anything that bolted to regular bars. None of the stems had split caps, so I had to remove the handlebar tape to install for triathalons. They'd stay on for months after the season before I'd get fed up and remove them. My back never did like that low riding position, and I'm paying for it now.

    Not really a regret, I bought a titanium rear derailler swing bolt from a bargain bin just years after titanium hit the market. Didn't fit, never returned it. Also bought some aluminum derailler cogs, one didn't have the bearing centered properly. Never fixed or returned. Coolest pieces in my toolbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TiGeo View Post
    Shocked at the BB7 comments...If set up properly will stop as good as hydros.

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    Shocked at your comment... As good as BB7's are, they can't produce stopping power like a low-end hydro. The Elixir 1's that replaced my BB7's are good for 20-30% more torque, even though I broke the BB7's down to apply a better lubricant, AND lubed the lined cables.
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    Recent mistakes would be following the "reviews" on components that are personal preference. Bought a really wide, like 800 MM Atlas Flat Bar, because I "needed" this for my 29er for all that leverage and better handling and cornering. WTF!!!! It was like doing a super-wide push-up on a crow-bar. It seemed to amplify every thing I hit on the trail and jar my hands and wrists. I gave it 4 weeks and then went back to a 710 mm mid-riser bar. of course it sat in my bing for nearly 2 months before I installed it so I couldn't return it, at least I got 2/3 on Craigslist.

    The other was Vans Odi waffle grips. Inspiring ads in the magazines, excellent reviews, but epic fail for me compared to both my Lizard Skins North Shores and renthal grips. To be fair, the Vans Odi grips are great grips in general, not a thing wrong with them and you should try them, but they just weren't close to the type of grip that I prefer. I only list it here because I fell for advertising, something like "A Socal tradition..." and I was hooked. In retorpsect, had I just looked at the material and the design I would have said "Great look, but probably not for me."

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    Buying a number of POS used bikes and spending a fortune upgrading parts on each one. Why didnt I just buy a premium bike with a premium build in the beginning? Then again, if I did, I would have ended up stuck with a 26" 100mm travel XC bike. Maybe a lesson well learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flamingtaco View Post
    Shocked at your comment... As good as BB7's are, they can't produce stopping power like a low-end hydro. The Elixir 1's that replaced my BB7's are good for 20-30% more torque, even though I broke the BB7's down to apply a better lubricant, AND lubed the lined cables.
    Weird. Im a 200 lb guy and my BB7's are as good as any hydro's Ive used.
    No moss...

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