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    Trail Riding with dog

    I did a search and didn't see a thread about this. How many of y'all ride with your dog?

    I took my dog on his first trail ride today and he did great. He stayed with me the whole time and didn't get distracted by other people or dogs. We did 4.5 miles at 7.9 mph. Strava Says.

    This just got me to wondering how far dogs can run and how fast? I'm sure Scout would follow me until he had a heart attack and died, so I'm just wondering what would be an appropriate training schedule for my dog?

    Here he is cooling off after our ride today. He is an 8 month old Lagotto Romagnolo.



    Here's a picture of him with all his hair. This is how most lagottos look.


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    I too mine on his first trail ride today. We went about 3.5 - 4 miles.
    We did stop to often. I wanted him not to overheat here in AZ.
    He did real well for his first time.
    I will be taking him again in the morning.
    I will be taking him on the same trail for a while until he gets used to commands and the bike.
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    Small ring in front makes it easier. Small ring in back makes it harder. That blows my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lenny7 View Post
    My search is broken. I typed "dog" into the search and got zero results. Thanks!

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    I've been riding with my dog for about a year and a half she can do 20 miles easy.Keeping in mind are trails have lots of water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by down2ride View Post
    This just got me to wondering how far dogs can run and how fast? I'm sure Scout would follow me until he had a heart attack and died, so I'm just wondering what would be an appropriate training schedule for my dog?
    Dogs are like us and need training/conditioning to go longer distances. Start small and slowly work up. Make sure you pay more attention to him while riding- if you do, you'll realize that you're overdoing it. Stop often to give him water and check out his pads. My dog, after riding with me for a couple years, had a pretty bad pad injury on both front paws. She's fine now, but the bill at the vet took the money I was going to spend on bike parts...
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    Yeah, I want to work him into it. I spent a lot of my time looking back to see how he was doing. I also just cruised along allowing him to catch his breath before increasing the speed a bit. I guess I'll just watch him to see how he does. It would be great if I could get him going for 15 mile rides comfortably.

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    My dogs will go 15 miles with no problems as long as I'm the one they're following. They get lots of water and rest stops. I also don't run them over 10 mph and I usually average 5 to 7 mph. I've known way too many dogs that were run to death, it's not going to happen to mine.

    I also don't ride with others, except on slow trails. No one cares as much for my dogs as I do.
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    10-15 is about right for her (3yrs old)

    Worst was getting kinda lost and too far from truck on fast fire roads -
    had to strap her between me and my camelback. That was interesting...
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    My dog is 8 or 9 years old (rescue so we're not sure) and he still can do up to 6 miles but at his own pace. He just trots along and we wait every 1/2 mile or so for him to catch up. In cold weather, and especially if there's some snow, he'll race around a bit, but mainly he's become a "hiker". We leave him home now for the weekly "serious" rides.

    When he sees me put on my riding clothes he sings and dances until we get in the car.
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    Personally, I don't suggest taking a dog mountain biking. You can really make an early cripple out of a dog by running it on MTB rides. I know a lot of people like to say that "their dog just loves it" and "this breed can run and run", but the reality is the vast majority of dogs will kill themselves trying to keep up with a bike.

    If you do feel the need to run your dog on an MTB ride, adjust your pace to a lot slower, especially on downhills than you normally would do. Keep the rides fairly short. If plenty of water isn't trail side make sure you bring enough for the dog. Plus, if your dog is a chaser of wildlife, you should really reconsider taking it on a ride where it's off leash and/or out of sight for any length of time. Also don't let the dog get out of sight so it may be a hazard to other trail users, if it's exhausted and stressed because it's lost track of you, it's probably not thinking about staying out of the way of other people.

    and clean up after your dog, carry a poop bag.

    Some of my best friends have been dogs, but they're not people and they shouldn't be expected to act like people. I don't ride with my dog and none of my friends ride with their dogs for those reasons.

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    My dog (4 year old Labradoodle) loves to go along. I only take her to a couple of trails, though, the ones that are less apt to have a lot of other people, and that have plenty of creeks along the way. Typically I won't go more than 5-6 miles with her and stop often to let her chill in the creeks.

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    Is this the master MTB with your dog rule list?

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    I've had/have some dogs who have no business trail riding. Others think they're bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by woahey View Post
    Dogs are like us and need training/conditioning to go longer distances. Start small and slowly work up. Make sure you pay more attention to him while riding- if you do, you'll realize that you're overdoing it. Stop often to give him water and check out his pads.
    I agree, start slow and work your way up. Watch the temp, dogs can overheat easily.

    I ride everyday with my Vizslas. Monday thru Friday it's usually just an hour at sunrise, 6-10 miles. Weekends is more like three hours, closer to thirty miles and about 5000/yr.
    I'm currently on my fifth MTB dog and none have had any major problems from running.
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    Nice Dogs. Vader is that a weimaraner? He is much bigger than my 1 year old Weimaraner, I am confident he could physically ride with me no problem, but I have been afraid of letting him off the leash because he is a hunting dog breed. My worst fear is him taking off and chasing something and not coming back. Does anyone have any suggestions for training a dog to ride with you. He stays around me of the leash, but I would expect him to be alot more distracted in the woods with all the other scents and animals around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringoesroadking View Post
    Nice Dogs. Vader is that a weimaraner? He is much bigger than my 1 year old Weimaraner, I am confident he could physically ride with me no problem, but I have been afraid of letting him off the leash because he is a hunting dog breed. My worst fear is him taking off and chasing something and not coming back. Does anyone have any suggestions for training a dog to ride with you. He stays around me of the leash, but I would expect him to be alot more distracted in the woods with all the other scents and animals around.
    I had the same fear early on but my dogs (one is a weim the other a weim/lab mix) really are more concerned with staying with me than chasing animals. I would consider my Weim to be an awesome recall dog but she will come with a little pestering or at least just starting to ride away. The trail we ride at is seldomly used and an off leash dog park so it works out well.

    Here is an old video, Lucy the purebread Weim makes an early cameo but then fades off as she is getting lazy. Calvin is the one who wants to fight for the lead but obeys my hand signs to make sure he stays on my rear tire.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ringoesroadking View Post
    Nice Dogs. Vader is that a weimaraner? He is much bigger than my 1 year old Weimaraner, I am confident he could physically ride with me no problem, but I have been afraid of letting him off the leash because he is a hunting dog breed. My worst fear is him taking off and chasing something and not coming back. Does anyone have any suggestions for training a dog to ride with you. He stays around me of the leash, but I would expect him to be alot more distracted in the woods with all the other scents and animals around.

    He's 11 months and in the photo, probably seven months. He's bigger now and a lot more muscular. Like a running back. When we're riding, he has tunnel vision. He just wants to run the trail. This is what separates hiking dogs from trail running dogs, I think.
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    My response to ZRM

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    Great video, You trained them well. My weimaraner is much thinner than the ones in this thread, I think he is a little underweight although he eats over 5 cups of food per day. He is very fast and as agile as a cat. Seems to be a great breed for a trail dog. Thanks for the replies!

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    My lab is pretty good on the trails too. Been keeping him at home recently due to the influx of rattlesnake sightings. We usually stick with the less popular trails to keep the chances of collisions and him getting overstimulated down.

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    A few years ago, we took Emmy and Freckles to the columbine campground next to the Arc Dome Wilderness. Going home from the campground, I rode the 8 miles/2000 ft dirt road to the state highway (also dirt) while my wife drove. Emmy and Freckles ran with me for a while. Freckles dropped out first and Tobi picked him up. Emmy, the toughie, lasted longer.

    Later on, we stopped for lunch near Fallon on our way back to the Grand State of Confusion. Neither dog could walk well at all. Their pads were loose and bleeding and they limped for a week.

    Going downhill too fast can seriously hurt paws especially on tough gravel.

    Take the pooders, but keep their well being in mind even if it impacts riding. Also - you'll need lots of water and a water dish if there is none on the trail.

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    Trail Riding with dog

    Anyone try out those vibram shoes at REI? Kinda overkill but might be good for those long ride/hikes

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    I would take what zrm previously said to heart, with the following in mind: pooches are short burst animals. Watch them at play in a dog park, they have great acceleration and stamina, however they do it in relatively short bursts, with some down time in between. They also stop often for a drink.

    To take them out for an enduro is insane and cruel. Sure, they can do it, but that's not the point. They literally will kill themselves to stay up with you, which again is not the point.

    That said, I think it's it's a great way to exercise a working dog, just be cognizant of the right way to do it. Turn your Strava off, take many more breaks than you would normally do, and have plenty of water available. YMMV

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    When I ride with my dog(s), I make sure that I know where there is going to be water available. If I become the only source of water, I carry water bottles and a collapsible water bowl. Any water that the dog(s) don't drink goes back into the water bottles. My dogs will also drink from my Camelbak, and actually prefer it, but there's waste doing it this way. They will also drink from faucets, so I will often make trips through campgrounds to keep them hydrated.
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    It's all about planning.
    I have two dogs. Duster - 7 yr golden, 85 ibs and Kira - 1 yr border collie, 40 ibs.
    Duster loves short hikes and runs, but is definitely not a biking dog. It hurts is paws and hips - doesn't matter how short or how long.
    Kira, on the other hand, lives to run. I still remember her first 12 mile ride. She killed it and what's more, she loved it. We've been working on bike specific commands (back, side, stop, go, etc.) and she's been mastering them.

    Just because she loves to ride with me doesn't mean she goes everywhere.

    She only rides when I'm going solo and when I'm not training.
    She doesn't ride on rocky or technical single track (it tears up her pads).
    She only rides when there is a large body of water or a stream close by so she can cool off and drink (she'll drink from the camel back but not nearly enough).
    We stop about every mile just so I can check and make sure that she's doing well.
    She doesn't ride more than 15 miles - even though she could and often wants to keep going.
    We only ride trails where there are multiple bail out points and that are close to town. This way, if something did happen, help and a car would be close by.

    When I ride alone or with a training group, our riding is pretty selfish. When I ride with my dog, the ride is about us. I keep her needs in mind and place those above my own. I suppose the same mentality takes place when riding with a large group - the group's needs trumps the needs of one individual.

    In other words, every one's dog is different. When you ride with your best friend, their need to be safe, have fun, and be healthy, trumps your human needs at that moment. I love riding with Kira, but we only ride when it's best for her.

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    I love dogs more than most people, but leave them at home. If I smoke a cigar on the trail , most of you would complain about second hand smoke, but none of you get second hand dog. If I have to choose between hitting the dog, and hitting you (this has happened several times), I'm dropping a shoulder into your face. Unless you have perfect control over your dog, keep them out of my way. If I get hurt trying to avoid your dog, expect a hail of crap from me. I'll own your house.
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    I love dogs more than most people, but leave them at home. If I smoke a cigar on the trail , most of you would complain about second hand smoke, but none of you get second hand dog. If I have to choose between hitting the dog, and hitting you (this has happened several times), I'm dropping a shoulder into your face. Unless you have perfect control over your dog, keep them out of my way. If I get hurt trying to avoid your dog, expect a hail of crap from me. I'll own your house.
    All the trails that I ride are are multi user trails. That means horses, dogs, kids, elderly hikers, fisherman and even aholes like you. Ride in control and you won't be hitting my dog(s), and I won't have to hurt you.
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    When I go out with my dog, I'm usually the one that's "along for the ride".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormwalker View Post
    When I go out with my dog, I'm usually the one that's "along for the ride".

    I pretty sure that's cheating.
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    Here's a short video of Scout on our ride yesterday. And incase anyone is wondering this was on a mixed use trail with a lot of other dogs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashtestdummy View Post
    All the trails that I ride are are multi user trails. That means horses, dogs, kids, elderly hikers, fisherman and even aholes like you. Ride in control and you won't be hitting my dog(s), and I won't have to hurt you.
    hah, I'm a slow, very in control rider and invariably someone's "well trained" ( "oh, he always stays with me") dog gets under my front wheel. I shouldn't have to watch out for someone else's dog. I have a lot of respect for truly well trained trail dogs but they seem to be one out of ten that I see on the trails.

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    [QUOTE=Stormwalker;10441204]When I go out with my dog, I'm usually the one that's "along for the ride".

    Bicycle equivalent to skjoring... my hubby used to run our Malemute with a newspaper bike pre-mtb era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by down2ride View Post
    Here's a short video of Scout on our ride yesterday. And incase anyone is wondering this was on a mixed use trail with a lot of other dogs.

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    Lol. He's enjoying that!

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    Trail Riding with dog-charlie-ss.jpg This pic is from a few years back before Charlie had ACL issues. He loved to ride as much as me!! Some of my best memories of riding were with that mutt! Still take him on short hikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarmark View Post
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    Good luck with Charlie's ACL. My Jasper had ACL surgery in March. Hopefully he will be chasing the bike (or I'll be chasing him) again by the end of August.

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