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    In the future!, if asked, I'll stare straight into the camera with both eyes and state " I have no recollection of participating in that thread".

    There is enough lameness to go around on this one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krapao Gai View Post
    This is simply the retarded pap that economically challenged riders propagate to make themselves feel better about the socio-economic condition that they find themselves trapped in.

    Thanks for playing!
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    Your posting history proceeds you dimwit.

    Try again?
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    So much is wrong with your simplistic response.

    It is refreshing to see that you have yet to shed that mantle of cluelesness that you defines your life.

    p.s your hypocrisy "ahole 5 posts" earned you extra credit points on the hypocrite scale.
    Quote Originally Posted by Krapao Gai View Post
    ...and there's some more nonsense from down under.

    At least you are consistently a blathering tool rather than an inconsistency blathering tool.

    (cue rambling semi-intelligible response from the non-riding poser)
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    As expected.

    Just another fluffer. No substance, just insecure poser whining.

    Your lameass is quite predictable!
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    Good grief, you are so incredibly clueless so silly newbie.

    Please, carry on if that brings you some kind of false comfort.

    Meanwhile, normal folks will just be sitting back and laughing at your antics.

    Amateurs are one thing, but incredibly clueless wanksters area a whole different level of amusement. Thanks!
    Quote Originally Posted by Krapao Gai View Post
    Once you start making an adult salary your perspective will change. If you can shrug off the shackles of ignorance that you labor under.

    Until then, it's understandable that you can't imagine driving a "car like that" when you spend all day long flipping burgers for your betters.
    Have you read the posting rules at MTBR.com?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krapao Gai View Post
    Have you, hypocrite?

    Why does the truth make you uncomfortable?
    You have 15 posts here at MTBR.com. They all contain inflammatory comments, profanity or name calling.

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    ^^^^^ quack quack.......
    Dont ever let the truth get in the way of a funny story....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krapao Gai View Post
    You are a hypocrite. You are also incredibly clueless.

    I have many, many more posts than the 15 that you point out.

    If you don't want to be called out on your idiocy, stop posting idiocy.

    It's really simple.

    ...but I expect that you will continue to wallow in your own sea of confusion.

    p.s. Why does the truth make you uncomfortable?
    16 posts now, more name calling, inflammatory comments or profanity.

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    Where is Lance? How about some sock on sock combat? My money is on Lance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krapao Gai View Post
    As expected.

    Just another fluffer. No substance, just insecure poser whining.

    Your lameass is quite predictable!
    Gotta at least give the guy credit for going down swinging!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krapao Gai View Post
    More whiny cluelessness.

    Time to find some fat guy to snuggle with so you feel better about your lame self?

    Clueless hypocrites like you are amusing but ultimately a sad commentary on society.

    Maybe you and that Tone freak can do some private chatting so you can each feel better about being such idiots?
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    Wow, Krapao - what a way to start making enemies.
    Imagine that DC's "How to win friends & influence people" has eluded you.
    Our next red chiclet king?
    Who here really cares about driving a $375k sedan? Certainly not I, and I really hope he doesn't park it next to my old Honda.
    Better to park it next to Nic on a Friday night shyte-storm ride sesh & get his $$ tailpipe pee injected.

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    Nothing to see here, please move along.
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    Can somebody please ban this Crapo Guy again so he stops ****ing up the thread?

    Edit: hah, that was quick

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    Posts all cleaned up now. MTBR rules!

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    Bye krapao!!!! You're such a loser!!

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    Fagerlin is just butt hurt because this thread wasn't about him and his pos 997.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shibiwan View Post
    Besides, the designer/engineer needs to be slapped for flipping the front shocks (and let the stanchions get nicked by rocks. Also notice that there is no bridge between both stanchions on the fork so expect the front axle to snap the moment you hit the first pebble on the road.

    So much for vaporware. At least make it credible.....
    Looks a lot like a Maverick SC32. Certainly not the best fork I've ever owned, but the front axle didn't "snap" the moment I "hit the first pebble on the road."

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    Quote Originally Posted by baker View Post
    Looks a lot like a Maverick SC32. Certainly not the best fork I've ever owned, but the front axle didn't "snap" the moment I "hit the first pebble on the road."

    Maverick SC32 29er Forks Reviews
    I stand corrected.

    (checked it out - man that's a big custom axle on that thing)

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    BBBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO who banned crapola, he was entertaining , why do all the entertaining guys get banned i was havin fun with this thread....
    BRING BACK CRAPOLA
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    Quote Originally Posted by shibiwan View Post
    Look closely - the bike is a rendering and isn't real. It's just overlaid (well) on to an existing photo background.

    Besides, the designer/engineer needs to be slapped for flipping the front shocks (and let the stanchions get nicked by rocks. Also notice that there is no bridge between both stanchions on the fork so expect the front axle to snap the moment you hit the first pebble on the road.

    So much for vaporware. At least make it credible.....
    hey! it has platforms...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanik View Post
    Can somebody please ban this Crapo Guy again so he stops ****ing up the thread?
    "****ing up the thread?"

    Actually, he is like salt, garlic and bacon on overcooked potatoes.

    Ban Ban Ban him.....we need to save this precious thread!


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    Quote Originally Posted by 11 Bravo View Post
    I need to do a better job at posting. I didn't mean to be taken seriously, I was just trying to inject a little humor. Hence the smiley and the last line starting with "seriously".

    Your points are correct. But you have to admit, it is unusual to see a very high end car with a strap-on trunk rack.

    It's all good.
    Haha. I guess if I had that much money, I'd buy a cool old truck or some other vehicle to carry my bike.

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    This thread has some pretty cool pictures in it. I absolutely love cars but the helicopter is pretty darn cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lidarman View Post
    "****ing up the thread?"

    Actually, he is like salt, garlic and bacon on overcooked potatoes.

    Ban Ban Ban him.....we need to save this precious thread!





    He'll be back, he always comes back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tone's View Post
    Crapao, i could eat a bowl of alphabet soup and s**t out better ''semi-intelligible' come backs and post than you
    Tones, remind me to never ever play Scrabble with you.

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    rather get this frame... to build up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shibiwan View Post
    Besides, the designer/engineer needs to be slapped for flipping the front shocks (and let the stanchions get nicked by rocks. Also notice that there is no bridge between both stanchions on the fork so expect the front axle to snap the moment you hit the first pebble on the road.
    haven't upside-down forks been SOP for high end motorcycles for decades? even off-road ones?

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    He's going to melt his tires and rims with the Lambo's exhaust...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill in Houston View Post
    He's going to melt his tires and rims with the Lambo's exhaust...



    It won't run long enough to get that hot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kjlued View Post
    Maybe they spent all their money on that car.
    And can't afford bikes (it's empty)

    Man, the cost of bikes is too damn high - even for rich people apparently

    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill in Houston View Post
    haven't upside-down forks been SOP for high end motorcycles for decades? even off-road ones?
    For different reasons.

    For the off-road ones, it's because they have more than 12" of travel, the only way to get enough bushing overlap and not have the lowers extend way down below the axle is to go inverted. The other big issue is the huge doubles they ride, and when they come down or even possibly case a jump, they need the extra strength of an inverted design, in fact these usually have dynamic bushings, in that the top of the stanchion has a bushing and the top of the uppers is a surface the bushing moves against. This feature has only been used on the Monster T and Shiver SC forks to my knowledge (the dynamic bushing).

    For the road bikes, realize you are looking at a huge inverted fork with 50+mm stanchions, massive crowns and axle, a HUGE distance relatively between the top and bottom crowns, and only 2-3 of travel. If you made a mountain bike fork with the same general dimensions, it would be stiff too. That's not the way it works though on mtbs, we use inverted designs for bikes with lots of travel usually, and at the lower-travel amounts it's just not structurally efficient in the first place. The moto bike also benefits a little from the unsprung weight, but when you look at the entire system, the fork would already be as massive as it is no matter if it's inverted or not. Due to the minimal amount of travel, it doesn't give up anything and loses a bit of unsprung weight, in addition to slightly better lubrication.

    It's just not the same thing with mountain bikes. Inverted forks are generally a poor idea. I've owned 3 different ones, none were very good structurally. Single crown inverted forks are an especially bad idea, lacking the 2nd crown and extra bushing overlap, and the bushing overlap is usually why a designer goes to an inverted fork in the first place.

    They look cool, and with enough engineering and $$$ you can make it comparable to a "right side up" fork, but with the same amount of engineering work and $$$ you could make a right-side-up fork even stiffer and lighter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayem View Post
    For different reasons.

    For the off-road ones, it's because they have more than 12" of travel, the only way to get enough bushing overlap and not have the lowers extend way down below the axle is to go inverted. The other big issue is the huge doubles they ride, and when they come down or even possibly case a jump, they need the extra strength of an inverted design, in fact these usually have dynamic bushings, in that the top of the stanchion has a bushing and the top of the uppers is a surface the bushing moves against. This feature has only been used on the Monster T and Shiver SC forks to my knowledge (the dynamic bushing).

    For the road bikes, realize you are looking at a huge inverted fork with 50+mm stanchions, massive crowns and axle, a HUGE distance relatively between the top and bottom crowns, and only 2-3 of travel. If you made a mountain bike fork with the same general dimensions, it would be stiff too. That's not the way it works though on mtbs, we use inverted designs for bikes with lots of travel usually, and at the lower-travel amounts it's just not structurally efficient in the first place. The moto bike also benefits a little from the unsprung weight, but when you look at the entire system, the fork would already be as massive as it is no matter if it's inverted or not. Due to the minimal amount of travel, it doesn't give up anything and loses a bit of unsprung weight, in addition to slightly better lubrication.

    It's just not the same thing with mountain bikes. Inverted forks are generally a poor idea. I've owned 3 different ones, none were very good structurally. Single crown inverted forks are an especially bad idea, lacking the 2nd crown and extra bushing overlap, and the bushing overlap is usually why a designer goes to an inverted fork in the first place.

    They look cool, and with enough engineering and $$$ you can make it comparable to a "right side up" fork, but with the same amount of engineering work and $$$ you could make a right-side-up fork even stiffer and lighter.
    There's another company doing it:
    DVO Suspension

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    And don't forget Leftys; they're inverted "forks".

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    Quote Originally Posted by hardtailkid View Post
    Wow, this has to be a new low. Guys on an internet forum bashing a successful individual who just happens to mountain bike (which is why you all are here, let's remember). You must be really mad at something.
    How do you know he is a mtbr?

    He could be a rodie and then it would be ok to make fun of him.

    j/k

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    There's another company doing it:
    DVO Suspension
    Yep, and they've stated that the reason is because making cast lowers is very cost prohibitive for a small company, so they are going the inverted+dynamic bushings route with some other stuff that is unique. The point is that you "can" do it, but it's much more engineering intensive, that much engineering can get you an even better "normal" fork, but they are held back by the cast lowers at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skiahh View Post
    And don't forget Leftys; they're inverted "forks".
    With "square" stanchions. That's where they get their rigidity. Not really the same thing.
    "It's only when you stand over it, you know, when you physically stand over the bike, that then you say 'hey, I don't have much stand over height', you know"-T. Ellsworth

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    bunch of ducks quackin

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    You are all amateurs. This is my car. Seriously.

    It has air conditioning, a radio, two front seats and that's about it. The ideal car.

    It fits the girlfriend's bike, gets reasonable gas mileage, was inexpensive, and I make enough money to easily afford a much nicer car except cars don't interest me at all.
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    Ehhh it looks too well thought out, I like the whole old Camry wagon with rust spots gig.

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    Is that a Ford Transit? Nice setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott In MD View Post
    2 years ago I was loading up after a ride in the fabulous Frederick MD watershed. A giant custom touring van , like the kind that National Car Renal uses to shuttle people to and from the airport to the rental lot, pulls up to the Yellow Trail trail head on Gambrill Park road. Inside was all custom decked out with flat screen high def, window tint, microbrew mini-keg tap, leather and stainless, the whole enchilada. On back was a trailer, inside trailer over a half dozen premium trail bikes, several brands. All carbon. Four Asian dudes maybe 25 y/o in the van, one guy says , "Our buddy is rich and so we just drive around the USA from Cali to Maine riding all the great stuff we can. We move east and north through the Summer after riding all Winter and Spring and in Arizona, Utah, and Colorado. "

    Serious. They were pretty good riders, too.
    That's awesome! At least they're making use of that kind of privilege.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ailuropoda View Post
    You are all amateurs. This is my car. Seriously.

    It has air conditioning, a radio, two front seats and that's about it. The ideal car.
    That's what I usually say when friends are telling about their new sports car.

    Comments like "great heating system" does not go down well

    Personally I gave up on having a car a couple of years ago.
    I never got around to use it, so whenever I actually wanted to use it, it was always causing trouble.
    Partly that could be due to the climate here, and the fact that the garage is reserved for bikes.


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    For those of you wondering about the Audi Bike...The fork is a German:A - Flame. Nearly everything on the bike is German. It has Acros hydraulic gears and Supersonic (I think that's what they're called?) brakes.
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    thanks to the d!ckheads who are giving me negative rep for pointing out that i am AMUSED at something.

    have the balls to sign it next time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shekky View Post
    thanks to the d!ckheads who are giving me negative rep for pointing out that i am AMUSED at something.

    have the balls to sign it next time.
    It is amusing. I agree with you.

    Not because I hate on people for being successful (quite opposite - I love money), it's because I find irony in the fact that somebody took the time and energy to accumulate, purchase a very expensive car (and probably has a handful of other toys - cars, motorcycles, boats, house(s) with all the fixin's, etc.), but yet skimps on practicality and utility.

    In my opinion, a rich person with a true passion for cycling, would have a specific car for cycling - like a utility vehicle, truck, or even as something as badass as Ailuropoda's car. IF I had that sort of money, I would skip out on buying a boat, and direct that money towards a sweet MTB vehicle with all the fixin's.

    When somebody is hauling bikes on their Bentley or Ferrari they either 1) Don't care about the car (which means it was a gift, because anybody who earned the money to purchase such a car would cherish it), 2) putting on airs i.e. showing off or 3) they're STUPID. In all cases, it's a slap in the face of those of us who love cycling (and would be more practical about acquiring a proper vehicle for hauling bikes, especially if you have the money to do so) and shun posers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post

    When somebody is hauling bikes on their Bentley or Ferrari they either 1) Don't care about the car (which means it was a gift, because anybody who earned the money to purchase such a car would cherish it), 2) putting on airs i.e. showing off or 3) they're STUPID. In all cases, it's a slap in the face of those of us who love cycling (and would be more practical about acquiring a proper vehicle for hauling bikes, especially if you have the money to do so) and shun posers.
    4) They only have that car, and wanna go for a ride

    That's the reason I mostly see for that sort of thing.


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    I don't see anything wrong with it. It's a free country, they are not breaking any laws. it's their money to spend how they see fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Magura View Post
    4) They only have that car, and wanna go for a ride

    That's the reason I mostly see for that sort of thing.


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    Could very easily be true. OMG we agree!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    Could very easily be true. OMG we agree!
    I'll put an end to that at my earliest inconvenience


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