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    One of the many reasons I prefer to just ride alone.

    So I get a group text last night about 8pm from a guy who I've done group rides with before. He had extended an invitation for a group ride at one of our local spots. I quickly confirmed, because the weather has finally broke and I'm ready to hit the trails. No one else confirmed, so I made sure we were good just the two of us riders. He confirms and says I will see you at 8 am at the trail head. So I'm up at 630 to be ready to go and wouldn't you know I have a text from the guy who coordinated backing out for the most lame reason. Pissed me off enough to post this.

    When end I ride I just want to ride get out there and go. To many people I ride with always have excuses not to ride or to cut a ride short.......and this is just one of the many reasons why riding alone is better.

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    People tend to flake on me more often than not as well. One of the great things about riding is, you don't have to depend on others. If they show, great. If not, I ride anyways. I don't let it bother me anymore.

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    Meh. That's not that bad. At least it's enough notice that you can make other plans. I've had guys text me ten minutes after we were supposed to meet. To add insult, they were coming from half an hour away, so they knew at least forty earlier and could have saved me twenty minutes of hanging around the trail head since I always show up ten minutes early. Oh, then there's the time I took a day off work just to meet up with someone. They show up late saying their bike has been broken for a week and don't know if they can ride. Thanks!!!

    Needless to say, I now ride solo almost exclusively. If someone asks to ride together, I tell them I'm leaving my car at exactly this time. If you show up late, text me and I'll tell you where I am on the trails.

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    That sucks. I guess my point is that your either a rider or not. Stupid excuses to not ride drive me nuts. I suppose what really pissed me off was I got up early on a Sunday to accommodate his meet up time. Then he bails. I'm honestly to the point where I just have more fun riding alone. You cut out all the BS.

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    Everybody has their priorities in life. It sucks getting up early and having them bail, but shut off the computer and go hit the trails! It is refreshing riding solo. Go hit the trails you want, at the pace you want and don't stop until you're completely exhausted. Get moving!

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    I'm fortunate that I have a riding partner (my husband) who never bails on me.
    I think it's only happened once when the person calling a ride didn't show up. It's bad manners yes, but we did our own ride and it was glorious.
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    Unless it is the local clubs monthly group ride I am riding either by myself or with my daughters and wife. I do know many local riders and if i see them at the trail head I may tag their wheel.

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    I have a pack of friends who ride every Sunday. Sometimes everyone shows, sometimes its just me. The ride happens either way, having people bail out is hardly gona sour me from group rides. Im honestly a bit surprised to hear that people flaking is enough to drive people to stop trying to ride with others.

    Worse (as mentioned already) is the guy who shows up unprepared and unready. Our Sunday ride is an advanced group that rides at a good clip, im always amazed when someone decides to bring a friend who just got a bike or some friend of theirs from work who "rides". I would feel bad doing that to someone, i will ride one on one with someone new and wont bring them along on a Sunday unless they show me they have the legs to not hold that group back.

    Even when someone brings a noobie on Sunday, its not gona sour me... i just feel bad for that poor rider. I ride because i like to ride. I like when my friends are there to share the experience with me, but ultimately a ride is a ride either way.

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    Flaking isn't a big deal most of the time, if we're setting up a shuttle and it changes plans than I can see an issue, but other than that I don't care that much, I will ride alone if others bail.

    What annoys me and stops me from riding with other people sometimes is their inability to stop worrying about **** and enjoy the ride. I'm getting older and friends have wives and kids, sometimes they are on a very short leash and they try to get home asap to avoid trouble with the SO. One guy in particular always says he can be out until 7pm when we go ride DH, then during the day mentions how much better it would be if he were home by 5 and if we could be rolling by 3:30 at the latest that would be great. Yeah, awesome.... I won't ride with him anymore.
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    One of the guys that I have ridden with on a regular basis (in the past) had a record of saying yes he would ride 29 times last year. We actually rode together 4 times. I even told people a few times that they couldn't car-pool with me, because I didn't have room, only to have him back out at the last minute.
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    One of the many reasons I prefer to just ride alone.

    I ride with my friends. My friends are people who don't flake out.
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    I'm ugly and don't have any friends so I don't really have a choice but to ride alone.

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    Learned this thing the hard way.
    I was all set and was on my way to the airport to go to India and 2 of my friends ditched me.
    That was the day I decided I will never ever plan anything in a way that someone else's decision would bother me.
    Now I say, "If you want, you are most welcome but your decision will not affect mine".
    Recently made a trip to Peru to catch some un-described fish alone.
    Riding, again, if someone wants to join, please. If not, I have my bike and that's what it all needs

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    Never have met anyone at the TH, it's always at someone's home.

    That said, I live in a rural mountainous area with lots of trails and VERY few local riders.
    My only riding partner now is my brother and he never backs out.

    When he's working I ride solo and have no issue's with it .

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    I do like to ride with others, and alone at times. Friends is a term thrown around alot. If a friend of mine said they are going to do something, they do it. If they don't they are not real friends, just other bikers you roll with now and then. Meet at trailhead, no big deal, we roll at 00:00 and that is it. If they late or dont make it, no big deal. If you and your buddies cant meet without bailing that is pretty jacked.

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    I have a friend who routinely either bails via text, doesn't answer his phone or calls me 20 minutes into my ride after waiting 15mins for him. I finally just stopped asking him if he wants to ride and I just tell him "I'm hitting the trails up tomorrow, it's going to be sweet". It's super annoying, but it doesn't ruin my ride. I also recently got a few other friends into riding and they never bail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sumer View Post
    Learned this thing the hard way.
    I was all set and was on my way to the airport to go to India and 2 of my friends ditched me.
    That was the day I decided I will never ever plan anything in a way that someone else's decision would bother me.
    Now I say, "If you want, you are most welcome but your decision will not affect mine".
    Recently made a trip to Peru to catch some un-described fish alone.
    Riding, again, if someone wants to join, please. If not, I have my bike and that's what it all needs
    Good 1st post and I agree.

    I stop making plans with people that flake, mt biking or otherwise, that solves the problem...
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    I've never been flaked on, or flaked. I always shoot out a text and tell guys when and where I'm riding, and they are welcome to join. I did have a buddy come out with no water, snacks, tools, or spares. That was a little irritating since I had to share my water, but he was new to riding at the time. I chalked it up as a learning experience.

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    Yeah that's why I ride alone too.
    Besides that, I prefer riding alone so I can go when I want, where I want, as fast as I want.

    Sometimes I'll go 11am, in the tropical heat just because I feel like it. Or sometimes I'll go on a short 30 min ride at 4pm and go as fast as I can. Or tackle a climb on a hard gear (big ring).

    I've ridden in groups before and I find the experience largely overrated. Until you get to the rest stops and talk bikes snd stuff but you can do that at night anyway.

    I feel the same way about motorcycles as well. I always ride solo.

    If I wanted the whole social thing I'd bring a car, you know what I mean?

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    When I ride with others if they show up fine, if they
    don't show up that's fine also. I'm going to ride either
    way, and if they aren't there they are the ones who
    missed out, not me.

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    I don't mind if people don't show up at a ride or are a little late...
    What pisses me off is when i'm waiting for nothing...
    simple respect is to send a message before the beginning of the ride to say that you are late or wont make it.
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    When I invite others to ride with me, I have 100% intention to ride that day so show or no show, I get trail. I love to ride with others but I have no problem riding alone.
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    I like riding with others, and have found that if you go with maybe 1 or 2 others that are close to your fitness and skill level it can be a lot of fun. The hard part is for schedules to match up so I agree with the posts above. Make your plans and if they show up great if not go ride. All of that said I ride solo a good chunk of the time.

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    One of the many reasons I prefer to just ride alone.

    Hey Nate, look at the bright side. If you ride with these guys you get to ride alone anyway! Win win.

    I find as I get older, any more than my two or three best friends and I'm just adding baggage. Its less about "the ride" as it is the camaraderie. And we've gotten to the point where we name a place & time and whoever is there hits the trail.


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    I am usually solo on the MTB and find it works best for me. I set my own pace and distance depending on how I feel. Also with my rotating work schedule everyone else is at work when I go out to play. I actually bought a road bike this winter and found that I prefer to do a group ride while on the street. They'll never convince me to shave my legs though.
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    That sucks. I scuba dive as well at bike. With diving you need a buddy. Well...you can solo dive but I don't have the experience, training or gear to do that safely. I've had soooo many trips ruined because of flaky buddies. Nothing like getting up at 4AM to get to the Ocean, get all ready and then your buddy backs out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sumer View Post
    Learned this thing the hard way.
    I was all set and was on my way to the airport to go to India and 2 of my friends ditched me.
    That was the day I decided I will never ever plan anything in a way that someone else's decision would bother me.
    Now I say, "If you want, you are most welcome but your decision will not affect mine".
    Recently made a trip to Peru to catch some un-described fish alone.
    Riding, again, if someone wants to join, please. If not, I have my bike and that's what it all needs
    damn that sux.

    i used to paintball and ride ATVs. same bullcrap applied. lots of people started selling out or would want to leave early. hated it.

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    Re: One of the many reasons I prefer to just ride alone.

    ^^^^^paintball was really bad for that crap. I finally just stopped playing. I do an about even split of solo vs. riding with others. I have one friend who if he says he's riding, he's there. I try to always let anyone I'm supposed to meet know if I'm running late, asap. But as for bailing, I'm a firm believer in you never regret riding, you only regret not riding.

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    I love couch bike riders; we all have a buddy or buddies who is always game for epic rides, and then for some reason the day it comes they have a reason they cannot attend; bike problems, don't feel well etc.

    I get tired of friend bailing after they committed and then they get upset when I don;t tell them I am going for a ride as if they could make it anyway.

    Sometimes it is just easier going by yourself.

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    One of the many reasons I prefer to just ride alone.

    If I'm not 100% sure I can ride I say so. I'll say I'll meet them at the trail head if I'm not there just ride with out me. What's so hard about that?
    I like to ride bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by otis24 View Post
    If I'm not 100% sure I can ride I say so. I'll say I'll meet them at the trail head if I'm not there just ride with out me. What's so hard about that?
    ^^ This

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    Yep, almost 100% solo riding. Early on when I started, I was open to riding buddies, but I couldn't count on them. I learned to ride alone.

    Now, I am old and cranky, and people just generally annoy me, so I still ride solo. Starting to get interested in those long, technical climbs that require a shuttle, so getting in some of those groups that are dedicated might be nice. But, I am old and cranky.

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    Don't forget about the people who show up with their bikes in a state of disrepair. Flat tires, needing to change parts at the trailhead, etc. Get that **** done the night before!

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    Was to meetup with a guy to make some videos for a club. 5pm was the set time.
    5pm comes and I get a text "15 min". Half an hour later another text " running a bit late".
    An hour later I said "'nuff of this" and head home. On the road home I get a call "I'm on my way. Wife was taking too long doing something". WTF?!

    Same guy, different trip. We were to meet at a campground to ride a new trail. I've asked him many times prior if he was still going and he assured me 100%. The day comes and he text me that he will meet me at the campsite. On the road there I get a text that he's not coming, doesn't want to camp, too scared. WTF?!

    Same guy, another camping trip prior to the other two examples above. Annual club camp trip, he was suppose to join. I asked him many times if he is still coming, He said 100%, so ok. The day comes and he msg the group that he can't come because his 8yr old daughter wants to go fishing in ND. WTF?!

    Dude was a flaker beyond flaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OLx6 View Post
    I like riding with others, and have found that if you go with maybe 1 or 2 others that are close to your fitness and skill level it can be a lot of fun. The hard part is for schedules to match up so I agree with the posts above. Make your plans and if they show up great if not go ride. All of that said I ride solo a good chunk of the time.
    This. I too enjoy riding with others, but the biggest reason I ride solo most of the time is that it's sometimes hard to coordinate schedules etc. When I want to ride, I get on my bike and go. It might be 6:00 in the morning or 4:00 Saturday afternoon... or 9:00 pm Friday night. I'm not good at coordinating ahead of time.
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    I think there are more flakers now because of cellphones. Maybe some people think that they can alter plans on a whim just because they can "text" a cancellation. Appointments have all become tentative. Whatever happened to word of honor.

    In the old days, you made plans on the land phone or in person. "lets meet tomorrow at the TH at 7am." The plan pushes through without another word. If someone is not there, there is always or there better be a good reason.
    Nowadays, I sometimes get to the trailhead not knowing if Ill be in a group or solo. Of course there are very reliable bike buddies, but there are those notorious ones too.

    Yup, just rode solo this morning too.
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    if someone bails on me three times, I don't ask them to ride anymore...most of my riding is solo and a group of people I sometimes ride with are sooo slow

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    Yep, almost 100% solo riding. Early on when I started, I was open to riding buddies, but I couldn't count on them. I learned to ride alone.

    Now, I am old and cranky, and people just generally annoy me, so I still ride solo. Starting to get interested in those long, technical climbs that require a shuttle, so getting in some of those groups that are dedicated might be nice. But, I am old and cranky.
    Just like you I'm really old and cranky and can't stand people who want to ride in groups. I ride alone so I don't need to hear all the BS.

    For heaven's sake, it's only riding a bike.

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    This illustrates why mountain biking works for me, it's an individual activity. In anything I do I prefer not to put myself in a position where I have to depend on others because of crap like what the OP is talking about. OP, imo, having your riding partner bail was a good thing, not bad. You get to go out and ride at your own pace and on your own terms. Don't worry about it and enjoy the solitude.
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    I've been putting together a short list of folks that regularly show up to ride and who ride at a similar pace. It's spoiling me for riding alone, as I really enjoy chasing each other all over the trails. Lately I've been riding after I get off at the shop. I invite people to come join me, but I'm always prepared to ride alone and enjoy it.

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    I'm perfectly happy to ride alone and mostly do so. My reliable riding buddy is my brother. We respect each other. So, there is no BS. If he's not really interested he doesn't pretend he is...pretty simple. If someone can't respect you enough to communicate honestly, then they are not much of a friend.

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    We have a small group that rides together every sunday. Sometimes we are running late but we dont let anyone hang. Last time out we cut a ride short mostly cause I got sick on the trail. I felt horrible about it but its the first times its happened in 2 year's and everyone knew I randomly got sick on the trail.

    I ride solo during the week mostly, no one wants to go on week nights really.
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    I don't let it bother me when friends and riders don't show. I would rather ride alone most of the time anyways.

    However, I had a new experience for the first time. At a barbecue, I was talking with a guy I meet three or four times through mutual friends. Found out he rode mt bikes every saturday morning at the same local spot I ride pretty much at the same time. So, we made plans to meet. I have to say this...I ride SS and he rode gears. We started out the ride with no issues. He kept asking me if I wanted to lead and I said no I am fine. Finally after about a half hour he ask me to go in front. I went in front and I started to gap him. So, i stopped, let him catch up and started again. After the third time, he said don't wait for him. So, I kept riding until I came to a Y in the course. I waited for him but he never came. I was whistling, yelling his name and I even went back to find him. Gone! No where to be found. So, I continued on until I ran into him on the opposite side of the park. He didn't even stop or slow down for me when I came up to him slowing down, trying to see if he got lost. Right then, I knew he ditched me on purpose! Whatever. The next time I saw him at a party, I ask him what happenend. I got some lame excuse about getting lost on the trail he rides every saturday! HA

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    Probably 90% of my rides are solo. I do enjoy a group ride when they work out, but I ride no matter what. Our local club sponsors group rides on certain week nights on differing trail systems. They leave at a set time no matter what. I make them when my schedule allows. On the other hand, if I'm going out on a solo ride and feel like company I'll post on our fb page and say which trail and the time I'm gonna start pedaling. Lots of times I'll get a taker or two and have met some good riding partners that way. Most of them are respectful enough to call or text ahead of time if they can't make it, and I do the same.

    Personally, I have more fun riding solo, but it's nice to hit trails with other riders of the same level when schedules allow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtrider76 View Post
    We have a small group that rides together every sunday. Sometimes we are running late but we dont let anyone hang. Last time out we cut a ride short mostly cause I got sick on the trail. I felt horrible about it but its the first times its happened in 2 year's and everyone knew I randomly got sick on the trail.

    I ride solo during the week mostly, no one wants to go on week nights really.
    I would have to be real bad off to let anybody ride home with me after getting sick mid-ride. I've hit my head hard enough to shatter my helmet on rides and just barely put up with an escort home. so, how sick were you?
    edit: also refused an escort home after ripping open the inside of my eyelid from hitting a blackberry cane a couple of months ago. I am very luck the thorn was facing away from my eye and just got a small corneal nick. My buddy said when he got to me, confused why we'd stopped where we did, that he looked at me and there was blood running down my face! It healed up real nice, fortunately. The zub zero 10 mile road ride home probably helped speed up the healing.
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    As long as we are *****ing about the "other guy"...

    I have one who is chronically late and has to cut out early every time because he has something planned and the ride is taking too long. If you showed up on time, then we wouldn't have an issue.....
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    Am I the only one who gets lazy riding solo? I push my bikes up climbs I would have tried riding in a group. I take the B line around drops I would have hit in a group. I turn a slow and easy cadence staring off into the distance when in a group I would have been pushing a leg burning vomit inducing pace. Without riding in a group my rides just get kind of dull. I need that competitiveness that comes with riding with others.

    That said I have never had problems with flakers.

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    I'm new to riding so I understand where you're coming from, I like to ride in a group because I push myself harder, like you said it's easier to get lazy. But after hearing some of the stories on here I'm not surprised a lot of people prefer to ride alone. I definitely know to watch out for flakers!

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